View Full Version : I found a rare game variant I really want, but I don't know how to acquire it.
TheSlyder
08-07-2011, 02:11 PM
In late August of 2001, Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro was released. After 9/11, the game was recalled and re-released in late October of 2001 with changes made to the game regarding scenery, level names, and dialogue due to the sensitivity of the World Trade Centers attack.
I want an original copy of that game, but there's no actual way to tell which version the game is without either looking at the disk on a computer (File names) or actually playing the game and looking for differences.
Aside from buying all the copies of the game I can find, I don't know how I could go about acquiring it. (I've looked around, but due to its unmarked nature, I'm not finding copies for sale anywhere.) Any tips?
Dangerboy
08-07-2011, 09:22 PM
Well, it'll be easy since it's disc only and didn't reach the retail market. Only those who know what they have would have it for sale. Just keep poking around collector web-sites, you'll find one.
TheSlyder
08-08-2011, 12:03 PM
It did reach the retail market, though. It was sold for a couple months before the recall. That's why it's so difficult. It's in circulation, it's just uncommon and unmarked.
Dangerboy
08-08-2011, 12:30 PM
No, no...it never made it to retail. The game was literally on the assembly line - complete discs and all - when Activision pulled it from the assembly line.
If I may, from IGN's original posting - Bolded Text is for dramatic effect:
"Activision announced today that it would delay Spider-Man 2 Enter: Electro for the PlayStation.
In the attempt to show respect and to be sensitive to the victims and the families of the victims in the World Trade Center attacks, Activision has decided to alter a few scenes in Spider-Man 2, which takes place in Spider-Man's home town of Manhattan, NY. The game's climax takes place on a skyscraper that loosely resembles the WTC. Activision's president and COO made the announcement.
"Out of respect for the victims, their families and our fellow citizens, we will be postponing the launch and making minor changes to the game," said Doornink. "While the buildings in Spider-Man 2 Enter: Electro act only as a background environment and do not explode or collapse, Activision is being extremely cautious about any images in our game that might be mistaken for the Twin Towers. We expect to ship the game well in time for this holiday season. Additionally, the delay of the game will have no material impact on our business."
Activision didn't announce a new release of it. The game has been rated "E" for Everyone (ages six and older) by the ESRB. Activision's X-Men Mutant Academy 2 is still scheduled for release this week on PlayStation."
The only discs that made it to the public were from people yanking it off the assembly line before the discs were destroyed. It's only "complete" if you place the 9/11 disc in a reformatted case.
Now, Syphon Filter 3's "9/11" version got as far as warehouses and some employees via employee purchases. That was as close as it got. Any copies in the public were copies hoisted from the warehouses and employees.
Trust me on this, I own both. :)
TheSlyder
08-08-2011, 08:44 PM
Wow, thanks for the extremely informative post. That's quite disheartening. I was both excited for the thrill of the hunt and under the impression that it would be affordable. I was going by the wikipedia article, that states that it was recalled and re-released, and also listed the release dates of the original version and the new version.
That's awesome that you have both Syphon Filter and Spider-Man 2's pre-edit versions. How did you acquire them? Hunting them down? Ebay? Please tell me more.
Like I said, I did some googling and searching around and couldn't really find a lot of activity regarding the game.
Dangerboy
08-08-2011, 11:55 PM
Both were by 100% complete accident, actually. The Spider-Man was just on my wanted list that'd I'd post every month. Was lucky enough to have a fellow collector have it and sell it to me, as he'd know it was going to a good home and would be taken care of.
The SF3 one was, in complete honesty - a fluke and half. A mom and pop store I worked at for years, and then left to go work at GameShark in Maryland, and then came back to to shop and say hi was having a B2G1 sale on DVDs. Talking with the owner / my former boss and friend, I brought up the SF3 in conversation as one of my pet peeves in trying to find. When he heard the name, he mentioned a customer had traded in one. Sure enough, $14.95 on the shelf right behind me.
Turns out the customer who traded it in was a Sony Warehouse employee. At the time (and this was *years ago*) the warehouse workers could make purchases from the actual warehouse somehow. The person who bought it was getting out of gaming, so he had sold off all his stuff to the mom and pop store. The rest is history.
I have full articles (that need to be updated with better images) at my site at game-rave.com or you can click directly below:
Spider-Man
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/playstation_perfect_guide/features/feature_spiderman3/index.html
SF3
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/playstation_perfect_guide/features/syphon_filter_3/index.html
If you ever try to hunt down the SF3 - be aware that there are incomplete copies being sold. The "full" game has a double jewel case, the front / back inserts, the guide / manual, and matching art on disc and manual.
^_^
Jason
TheSlyder
08-09-2011, 12:25 AM
Thanks for the heads up on SF3. That's really cool that your article on Spider-Man 2 was actually one of the websites I used to read up on it when I first learned about it. I guess I'll have to just start checking around online for it and hope I find it.
Dangerboy
08-09-2011, 12:38 AM
Patience is your best weapon. I'm going on almost 10 years collecting PSX (holy shit...) and I'm still not done, and that's with variants, demos, et all.
If it helps with perspective, when I was hunting down the 8 Alundra variants, I emailed *every* *single* ebay auction that didn't have all the contents shown, and I did that every two weeks for two months. Just be calmly persistent, and anything you ever want will make itself known. :)
TOE-NEE
11-07-2012, 09:54 PM
Does anyone know how rare or how many copies of the Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro (pre 9/11) version are out in the wild? I recently aquired one and was curious.
PapaStu
11-07-2012, 10:32 PM
Thats impossible to know. We don't know how many were even produced before they were pulled. I'm sure there are a bunch out there that people don't even know are the WTC version of the game. Known copies are only a few however.
If you're interested in selling, i'm interested in buying.
TOE-NEE
11-07-2012, 10:50 PM
Thats impossible to know. We don't know how many were even produced before they were pulled. I'm sure there are a bunch out there that people don't even know are the WTC version of the game. Known copies are only a few however.
If you're interested in selling, i'm interested in buying.
I figured as much but wanted to be sure. I didn't know if this version was common, it sounds like it isn't. Thanks for the reponse PapaStu. I will let you know if I ever decide to sell it.
skaar
11-08-2012, 10:47 AM
http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2010/5/19/129187717359948200.jpg
You'd be better off contacting DB through his website.
PapaStu
11-09-2012, 01:40 AM
I figured as much but wanted to be sure. I didn't know if this version was common, it sounds like it isn't. Thanks for the reponse PapaStu. I will let you know if I ever decide to sell it.
Works for me. You know where to find me and I pay in gooooooold. Well not really, but I can always make sure I can put out an offer on it should you want to sell.
TheDoctah
11-13-2012, 02:43 PM
if you have like $2000 theres a guy who was offering his WTC Spiderman 2 on playstation collecting...
The changes are so minimal I really dont know why they pulled the game to do this to begin with. All they did was like fill in the gap between 2 buildings to make it seem like one building...
TOE-NEE
11-14-2012, 01:28 AM
if you have like $2000 theres a guy who was offering his WTC Spiderman 2 on playstation collecting...
The changes are so minimal I really dont know why they pulled the game to do this to begin with. All they did was like fill in the gap between 2 buildings to make it seem like one building...
They did a little bit more than that but I get what your saying. It's still a cool thing to have In my opinion.
Parodius Duh!
11-19-2012, 07:45 PM
Im curious if the Japanese release of Spiderman 2 contains the original WTC version....doubtful, but it just might.
SparTonberry
11-19-2012, 11:53 PM
Unlikely as it was released a year after the US and EU versions, according to GameFAQs.
SilverstreakUSA
07-12-2013, 09:55 AM
In late August of 2001, Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro was released. After 9/11, the game was recalled and re-released in late October of 2001 with changes made to the game regarding scenery, level names, and dialogue due to the sensitivity of the World Trade Centers attack.
I want an original copy of that game, but there's no actual way to tell which version the game is without either looking at the disk on a computer (File names) or actually playing the game and looking for differences.
Aside from buying all the copies of the game I can find, I don't know how I could go about acquiring it. (I've looked around, but due to its unmarked nature, I'm not finding copies for sale anywhere.) Any tips?
I know this is an old thread , however in researching this matter online this is the most recent conversation about this incredibly rare game variant so hoping true collectors still read here.
I just so happen to have a copy of the Pre sept 11 spiderman-2 enter electro game. i have had in my collection for the past 12+ yrs. some stores including one i worked for were given full copies of the game to play in their demo kiosks to encourage preorders before the street date the game would be sold. I got to keep that copy before all hell broke loose with the (9/11 attacks and the game was pushed back to make the changes . from what i have heard there now are possibly less then 100 known versions of the pre 911 game out there so they are extremely rare. needless to say its the price of my collection...i have been holding onto it. but now times are tough and could really use the extra money so for the right price... and it would not be cheap
( figure one was going for almost 3000.00 on ebay back in o7) and its 6 yrs later and even more rare now) i would be willing to sell for the right price. i figure try my luck here before resorting to ebay. this is legit and i can picture or vid verify if necessary. the disk is in flawless condition. And as of the time of positing this i see none for sell on the whole web....so. with that said...
any legitimate offers? :-)
money only.. no trade
real collectors with money only please. don't waste my time...
thank you.
RhetroAktive
07-12-2013, 12:48 PM
One sold on Ebay last year for a little over $100.00
SilverstreakUSA
07-12-2013, 07:03 PM
One sold on Ebay last year for a little over $100.00
thats ridiculous the seller got gipped then i seen ones go for more then 10 times that
bb_hood
07-12-2013, 08:49 PM
money only.. no trade
real collectors with money only please. don't waste my time...
Id Make you an offer but I am a pseudo-collector with wampum bucks...
RhetroAktive
07-14-2013, 03:15 AM
thats ridiculous the seller got gipped then i seen ones go for more then 10 times that
....or, your overpricing it. I'm going with that.
NipRing
07-14-2013, 10:31 AM
Especially after the recent lakerstowin fiasco, there's nothing DP loves more that a brand new member with 3 posts to his name, claiming ownership of an uber-rare game variant and in the next breath trying to hawk it for cash only (non-"real collectors" need not apply btw). Especially when a recent sale price of $100 is completely scoffed at. But good luck with your sale! And welcome to the forums (for as long as that lasts)!
SilverstreakUSA
07-16-2013, 01:42 PM
Especially after the recent lakerstowin fiasco, there's nothing DP loves more that a brand new member with 3 posts to his name, claiming ownership of an uber-rare game variant and in the next breath trying to hawk it for cash only (non-"real collectors" need not apply btw). Especially when a recent sale price of $100 is completely scoffed at. But good luck with your sale! And welcome to the forums (for as long as that lasts)!
I have no idea what you are talking about. and yes i only have a few posts am new here i havent been here before so what why does that matter? im not trying to con anyone or anything i just have a rare game of value i have had a long time and looking to possibly sell and this was one of two forums even mentioning it when i did a search.
mkestreet
08-02-2013, 09:43 PM
I watched that copy on ebay for about a month or more before it finally sold, seller kept dropping the price till it was down to 100 or so, I don't remember what it was initally listed at but it was relisted at least a handful of times before the price got remotely reasonable. yes its really rare but most people just don't care about it. It really boils down to a supply and demand thing. Pretty much the only people who really care are hardcore ps1 collectors or people going for a full ps1 variant set. There just aren't that many of those people.
Parodius Duh!
08-09-2013, 11:48 PM
I have no idea what you are talking about. and yes i only have a few posts am new here i havent been here before so what why does that matter? im not trying to con anyone or anything i just have a rare game of value i have had a long time and looking to possibly sell and this was one of two forums even mentioning it when i did a search.
You have a rare game, not the value youre thinking though.
Maybe a few years ago when this variant was first coming to light and the Spiderman movies being out at the time, etc... yeah a crazy collector or two may have paid an assload for a copy. Thats not the case now. Id gladly pay you $120 for it.