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wingzrow
08-11-2011, 02:50 PM
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/vgm/2541148500.html

Guy said someone offered him $450.00 and he shot it down. Is this lot really worth that much? Keep in mind that i would only be buying this to keep the good games ( I only own saturn bomber man and panzer dragoon Zwei )

I would most likely piece the rest out to you guys & eBay.

portnoyd
08-11-2011, 03:09 PM
The guy's insane for selling it one lot and one lot on CL. That's a pretty comprehensive lot to the least. Sadly, I could not even fathom a guess to a fair price for both of you.

wingzrow
08-11-2011, 03:12 PM
Damn, ok I guess ile be going one by one to total all this up with the cheapest BIN prices on eBay.

Good lord this is going to take forever but ile be damned if I let this pass me up.

Baloo
08-11-2011, 03:15 PM
He's dumb for trying to sell it all in one lot, better to piece it off and get like 1200 or so for it. The RPGs alone are worth half of that...

Offer him $800 and see what he says. Piece out the RPGs right and you can get about $600 or so off of them.

wingzrow
08-11-2011, 03:19 PM
Ok so now he's saying someone offered him $800.00 just now. God damn, I have to check what this lot is worth faster.

Baloo
08-11-2011, 03:21 PM
Personally I wouldn't go over $1000, that'd be pushing it a little bit. He declined the offer of $800?

wingzrow
08-11-2011, 03:28 PM
I told him to wait on making a deal until I get back to him.

RCM
08-11-2011, 03:31 PM
If he's on CL he wants to just get rid of the stuff.

Offer $800-$850 and not a penny more. Point out games like Radiant Silvergun and other classic Saturn titles are being re-released and will likely lose value to an extent.

This lot is clearly worth more than that, but you're almost doing him a favor by taking everything.

wingzrow
08-11-2011, 03:57 PM
Ok so he says he's going to wait a bit to get more offers. The one guy who offered him $800.00 for the lot is from minesota, and since i'm in the chicagoland area it would be easier to get rid of it if he sold it to me. It's a TON of money and work if I buy it at $800.00 but I don't think I can pay more than that.

What worries me is he's waiting for other offers and asking game stores about prices.

Ile let you know if anything comes from this but it's looking like he wants to much, not that it isn't worth a lot but it's just not worth the effort on my part to piece this all out just for something like $500.00 after all the shipping and eBay fees.

mobiusclimber
08-11-2011, 06:33 PM
If he says some crap about what a game store says it's worth then I'd tell him to sell it to the game store instead. No game store is going to give him a fraction of its worth anyway.

fahlim003
08-11-2011, 07:48 PM
If he says some crap about what a game store says it's worth then I'd tell him to sell it to the game store instead. No game store is going to give him a fraction of its worth anyway.
If it's decent game store, he can get 50% of it's value easily. There's a tonne of games here and several which have been known to bank over $100 each. $800 is a damned good price in comparison to my own collection which has similar games for sale here, any my collection, not including hardware at around 53 games wouldn't be sold for $1 less than $2500.

Naturally, had this guy gone onto piece work he could get a better return but still at <$1000, it's a fine deal that as far as Saturn is concerned, doesn't come up often, period.

wingzrow
08-11-2011, 10:30 PM
He responded. I told him $800 was my top offer and that it stands if he can't get rid of the lot. I made the argument of piecing out what I didn't want and how I would lose around 20% of anything i get rid of to fees & shipping. Also made the note that some of the games like guardian heroes might go down in value soon due to the online releases. Here was the response I got from him. Also asked him what this "site that gives game averages" was.

EDIT: turns out he used http://videogames.pricecharting.com

"Ok so I did the research and looked up average sale prices through ebay and amazon and even found a site that gives rough current prices for all games that have been made. Altogether it came out to anywhere between $3200-$4000. Obviously no one will pay that price unless they are completely nuts and I don't have the days,weeks,months, or even years to let everything sell individually online.

"So let's trim the fat as they would say, I would like to note that I don't really need the cash until next friday so that gives u a week to think about it, contact your friends and further negotiate with me. So my "FIRST" counter offer is $1500 for the lot. That's 50-60% off list and average sale price. I do have to be to work at 10pm 2night so we can talk again 2marrow, or u can email me back if your still awake and I can get back to u on my breaks."

mobiusclimber
08-11-2011, 10:42 PM
He's probably counting the Japanese games as tho they were U.S. Those Japanese fighting games are worth considerably less than their U.S. counterparts. I'd let him sit for a few days if I was you.

Gameguy
08-12-2011, 12:10 AM
Just counter offer his counter offer, offer $800 for half of the games. He can keep the shitty and loose games that nobody wants, apparently he's using those as reasons to increase the price. I looked through the whole thing and the most I would think it's worth is $1000, but $800 is much more likely. If he really wanted the most money he would have to part it out separately which would take some time, assuming he'd only sell this locally.

You could almost just buy the good games individually off ebay and save money, there's no sense in paying for a bunch of crap you don't want if you have to pay full price for everything anyway. I'm assuming you're buying this lot to keep the good games so whatever you spend on this you won't be getting back anyway.

I really hate ads where the guy asks you to make an offer. How about saving everyone's time and just saying what you want in the first place, these guys always want way more than people are willing to pay anyway. As if someone will just offer an amount way more than it's worth and they'll luck out, if it's posted for sale on the internet people will just look it up first before replying.

mobiusclimber
08-12-2011, 01:10 AM
Oh, this lot is definitely worth $800 from a reseller's standpoint. There are three games that combined are worth half that alone. But there's no way it's worth $4000. I haven't actually crunched the numbers (since there's a ton of stuff to add up, and some of it I have no idea on the value... what does an S-Cart cable for a Saturn go for? How about a VCD card? Is it Victor branded?), but I'd guess it would be worth $1000 for a reseller too (if the idea is to at the least double your investment). But like I said, it's best to let him cool his heels for a bit, then make a counter-offer.

Griking
08-12-2011, 04:17 PM
Meh, I was a lot more interested in this thread when I though that you were interesting in buying this for yourself. Now its just two sellers fighting to see who can make the most profit. Why should he take less since you seem to have made it clear that you were only buying it to resell and make a profit yourself?

Gameguy
08-12-2011, 05:56 PM
Meh, I was a lot more interested in this thread when I though that you were interesting in buying this for yourself. Now its just two sellers fighting to see who can make the most profit. Why should he take less since you seem to have made it clear that you were only buying it to resell and make a profit yourself?
He said he was planning to keep the good games for himself, the crap games he was going to sell off later. If he only wants to keep $500 worth of games for himself, why should he spend $1500 on everything? Plus the seller wants it all sold before next Friday, good luck with that. I sell stuff locally but usually I can't sell stuff that quickly unless it's really cheap.

Personally if I were to buy a huge lot of games just to get a few good titles, what I like to do is keep the good games for myself and sell off the rest to break even. I think if I have to take months(or longer) to sell off the rest I should be entitled to have a few good games work out for free. If I were to spend $500 to get a $50 game I don't want to sell the rest for $450, I would want to sell the rest for $500 or I could have just bought the one game I wanted for $50 somewhere else.

As for why part it out, usually the stuff being offered would only sell as a lot because of the good games included with it. If I'm keeping the good games for myself, I won't be able to sell the rest as a bundle unless it's really cheap. I'm usually forced to part them out to sell off the rest, or make them into smaller lots.

Radiant Silvergun seems to be selling around $100 now, the other good games are around $50-$100 on average(I'd stick to the low end if buying in a lot). I somehow missed the Panzer Dragoon Saga before which is around $200. Ok, I guess it's worth more like $1000 than $800 after all. I still wouldn't spend more than that as it's a lot to spend at one time and it takes up a lot of space until the rest can be sold off. Maybe I just don't know that much about the Saturn, but most of the games there I have no interest in and I wouldn't want to pay much for them as they'd be a pain to sell later. I don't care about most of the disc only games, the Japanese or PAL games, the sports games, simulation, puzzle, 3rd person action/adventure, FPS, Fighting, 2D Side scrolling, and that "other" category. To me most of those are junk titles that I'd have to sell later, maybe if I played them I'd find a bunch I'd like to keep but that's not how I see it now.

Baloo
08-12-2011, 10:14 PM
I'd counter with $1000 for the whole lot as you can get a nice amount. Definitely NOT $3200 worth though, and I wouldn't go over $1000.

Balloon Fight
08-13-2011, 12:32 AM
I'd say, $1000 would be my top offer, POSSIBLY $1100. It's an incredible lot. Also, sell the extra Saturn Bomberman on here if you get it. :)

Jaruff
08-13-2011, 06:19 PM
He needs money and he's on a time frame so he has the disadvantage. I wouldn't offer a dollar above $900; if he takes it, great, if not, move on. He knows you're interested and he thinks he can get you to jump on a quick sale.

The way I look at it; he can have an extra $800-900 in his pocket or he can have boxes of items to sell on his own time.

wingzrow
08-20-2011, 12:22 AM
I'm calling bull. I asked him today if he had sold the lot yet and he said he had not. When asked if he was willing to consider 800 he said someone might be paying him $1500.00 for it.

Jaruff
08-20-2011, 05:42 PM
I'm calling bull. I asked him today if he had sold the lot yet and he said he had not. When asked if he was willing to consider 800 he said someone might be paying him $1500.00 for it.

That's when you tell him "My final offer is $800, you can accept it or not." If he doesn't take it, just walk away. He's trying to hold out for more money.

wingzrow
08-20-2011, 08:30 PM
Final update: I said " i'm confused, i thought you needed to get rid of them by friday, now you're willing to sell them which will take months to do?"

Apparently this was for his rent and he sold some nintendo and guitar stuff to get what he needed.

What a missed opportunity.

Baloo
08-21-2011, 09:44 PM
The guy will probably roll around with this stuff when he becomes desperate for money.

None of the stuff was one-of-a-kind as it is, and if you look hard enough usually people getting rid of Saturn games and are into RPGs will have almost all of the good expensive RPGs for the system. Kind of a weird coincidence, but it's true. So keep shopping around, and you'll get lucky!