View Full Version : Add another proto to the NES "found" list
Buyatari
07-19-2003, 01:15 AM
Arcadia IV by Source the Software House
24 June 1991
Adam
sniperCCJVQ
07-19-2003, 06:02 AM
Can't wait to see what this game look like :)
vintagegamecrazy
07-21-2003, 12:01 AM
Post a pic if you can. Protos rule, their like long lost pieces of history being found.
Raccoon Lad
07-21-2003, 12:24 AM
You and tempest should compare notes to see who has more protos.
Buyatari
07-21-2003, 12:45 AM
Well Tempest does have alot but I also collect disk based protos. There is no way a cart only proto collector can come close to a disk based proto collector when it comes to total count.
Adam
Nespit
07-21-2003, 02:19 PM
Don't forget Wilson with a massive collection of prototypes...:-)
and totally true that a disk proto collection is easily bigger then a cartridge proto collector..Although i can sure use some more GC proto's..
adaml
07-21-2003, 06:28 PM
Arcadia IV by Source the Software House
24 June 1991
Adam
Wow, always nice to see new NES protos appear. Buyatari, do you have this game? Do you know anything else about it? Is it a platformer, adventure, RPG? Inquiring minds want to know :)
Buyatari
07-21-2003, 09:02 PM
Its a platform.
There are no pics to show you but there is a good chance you'll get to play it at a upcoming gaming event in the future.
Adam
adaml
07-21-2003, 09:08 PM
Wow, congrats on securing a proto that pretty much nobody even knew about!
Gives you hope that there are more floating around out there.
adaml
07-22-2003, 09:07 PM
I'm still curious to know more about this game, assuming you do indeed own it. Anything at all, please share...
Buyatari
07-22-2003, 09:30 PM
Well the game was sold with a bunch of other protos to a private collector. The collector who currently owns it is weighing his options. He may not end up keeping it after all. The current owner has deceided to hold of on the decision of posting pictures until all talks are settled.
Adam
TheRedEye
07-22-2003, 09:44 PM
Cute.
Buyatari
07-22-2003, 09:59 PM
Hey what happened to your website Redeye?
Adam
TheRedEye
07-22-2003, 10:10 PM
Besides the new logo? (http://www.theredeye.net/)
Buyatari
07-22-2003, 10:40 PM
its up now. When I last checked it said your site wasn't yet activated.
Adam
adaml
07-22-2003, 11:06 PM
Well the game was sold with a bunch of other protos to a private collector. The collector who currently owns it is weighing his options. He may not end up keeping it after all. The current owner has deceided to hold of on the decision of posting pictures until all talks are settled.
Adam
Well, in the name of NES game preservation, please let us know more as it becomes available, assuming you have a direct pipeline to this indecisive private collector.
It would be a shame for this game to bitrot in somebody's closet or neatly catalogued game collection without at least knowing a little bit about it.
Source the Software House is only responsible for 2 other games, P47 Thunderbolt and Rainbow Warrior, which I know absolutely nothing about http://exotica.fix.no/tunes/unexotica/teams/Source_The_Software_House.html
Guess we'll have to wait to see how this all plays out.
Buyatari
07-22-2003, 11:20 PM
Well, in the name of NES game preservation, please let us know more as it becomes available, assuming you have a direct pipeline to this indecisive private collector
Its not a matter of indecisiveness. If his price is met the game will be sold. If not he will keep it. I can't say what the possible future owner(s) will do with this cart if they do end up with it but the current owner will not dump it.
Adam
TheRedEye
07-23-2003, 03:00 AM
And what exactly is your...er, pardon, "private collector's" asking price?
Pardon the poster's apparent bitterness, but the poster had a deal worked out with the seller before the private collector swooped in and stole it away, and at this point the poster simply would like to know if he'll ever get to research and play this game, as this is the poster's well-known hobby and desire. The poster understands the nature of the game, so to speak, and holds no ill-will towards the private collector, but simply wants to know whether or not he should be crying in his alcoholic beverage over another relic lost to the love of the dollar.
The poster would also like to inquire as to the nature of the private collector's manner of speaking in third person. The poster is confused.
liquidmetal
07-23-2003, 11:07 AM
why didnt u post pictures i dont get it?
Buyatari
07-23-2003, 09:24 PM
Ever since Nintendo sought legal action and monetary damages in re-obtaining a N64 proto of Resident Evil 1.5 from a private collector AFTER the last N64 game had been marketed, some collectors are leary about
1. admitting they own what could be classified as Nintendo property in a public forum.
2. providing evidence (pictures) which would show possesion.
Having said this I have good reason to believe that the game will not be dumped but if you are patient you will be able to see more of it at some tim ein the future.
Adam
Li Wang
07-23-2003, 10:11 PM
RE 1.5? Do you mean RE 0? Or was there another game besides the unreleased RE2 that was referred to as 1.5?
Buyatari
07-23-2003, 10:54 PM
Nope I mean RE 1.5
It was announced but never released. A collector did have an early verison but was forced to send it back to Nintendo along with 4k in legal fees which Nintendo requested.
Adam
Li Wang
07-24-2003, 12:04 AM
Wow, that's the first I've ever heard of that incident.
Buyatari
07-24-2003, 12:25 AM
Who else knows who I am talking about?
He had a website with crazy crazy rare things pictured. Some blackmarket items as well. He posted to his website in the forums that he owned RE 1.5 and had pictures posted on his website. In the end, thats what Nintendo used against him. His own testimony and the pictures he posted.
Adam
Wow... I've never heard about it, but that sucks! I hope he got even with them by dumping it and circulating the ROM around the internet! :D . I at least hope he dumped it before sending it back.
DogP
Blackjax
07-24-2003, 05:00 PM
Sounds like a load of crap to me - why would Nintendo give a rats ass about an early prototype that was made by a different company? Moreso, what legal right would Nintendo have to reaquire an unreleased CAPCOM prototype that never hit the market, and exactly what would they have been able to recover damages from?
and until further proof is shown, I doubt anyone believes this story.
nesman85
07-24-2003, 08:15 PM
Who else knows who I am talking about?
i do.
He had a website with crazy crazy rare things pictured. Some blackmarket items as well. He posted to his website in the forums that he owned RE 1.5 and had pictures posted on his website. In the end, thats what Nintendo used against him. His own testimony and the pictures he posted.
the site is still up too, and it's assembled quite nicely.
gamergary
07-24-2003, 09:12 PM
[quote=Buyatari]the site is still up too, and it's assembled quite nicely.
Lol nesman. The site is called "The Assembler" here is a link for anybody interested http://assembler.roarvgm.com/
Buyatari
07-24-2003, 09:39 PM
Sounds like a load of crap to me
LOL
I could care less if you believe it.
I certainly didn't make this story up cause I had nothing better to do. It happened.
The website escapes me right now but he is a well known guy. As soon as I stumble upon it again I'll post the link. He has forums attached to the site and I bet if you search there in the old posts you'll find the details you need to satisfy your doubting mind. Its possible he may have deleted most posts relating to this since then but I'm sure once I find the site you'll be able to drum up the information you need reguardless.
If anyone else here has the website I'd appeciate the link.
One of the items on his website you Nintendo collectors may remember is the bootleg N64 Killer instinct cart. The label had a shrunken down picture of the box on the cart. The box happened to mention that a CD was inside. So he went on and on about how many mem chips you would need to store a cd on a cartridge.
If this rings a bell save me some hassle and post the website. I'm in danger of being called a bullshitter by an ignorant fanboy.
Adam
Buyatari
07-24-2003, 09:54 PM
Yeah thats the website I was talking of.
The guy who runs it is the one who had the N64 proto. I was not a poster on that website. I found out because he IMed while it was happening and asked for my advice on what he should do. We had previously spoken about about the prototype M2 units which I have and I suppose he respected my opionion enough to ask it.
Search the forums or ask the man yourself.
Adam
liquidmetal
07-28-2003, 11:28 AM
o i have been to that site before..does he still update?
nesman85
07-28-2003, 01:40 PM
he hasn't updated it in ages.
Buyatari
07-30-2003, 12:57 AM
Mike Gedeon of Videogameconnection.com has been generous enough to post some pics. He said they will up sometime tomorrow.
www.videogameconnection.com
Adam
Buyatari
07-30-2003, 11:17 PM
Mike just Imed me the link. The Arcadia IV pics are up
http://www.videogameconnection.com/arcadia_vi_proto.htm
Adam
Li Wang
07-31-2003, 01:51 AM
Why did you take a bunch of pictures of the back of your head?
Buyatari
07-31-2003, 02:04 AM
Thats no head thats how VGC watermarks his photos.
Adam
nesworld2
07-31-2003, 03:06 AM
Then you obviously don't know what a head looks like...
Pretty stupid if you ask me, you might as well not waste the bandwith on those useless pictures :/
Buyatari
07-31-2003, 03:17 AM
Then you obviously don't know what a head looks like...
Pretty stupid if you ask me, you might as well not waste the bandwith on those useless pictures
Ohh come on !! Lighten up.
Thats awesome.
Besides he took some real pics as well which should pop up there any minute now.
Adam
nesworld2
07-31-2003, 03:38 AM
not nice to play with people's... erm.. heads.... or something :roll:
Ballz
07-31-2003, 03:48 AM
Not to backtrack, but I'm still confused by the Resident Evil 1.5 thing. Resident Evil 1.5 is what I've heard an early WIP of RE2 referred to as, which, IIRC, included Leon Kennedy and a different chick (not Claire Redfield) who wore a race car suit. This was developed for PSX, not the Nintendo 64.
RE2 for N64 was developed and released after the PSX version, so unless they were intentionally attempting to do a completely new video game for N64, I find this story highly suspect.
I also looked at that webpage, but didn't see any info about it altogether. Maybe I just didn't look hard enough, I dunno.
Li Wang
07-31-2003, 03:56 AM
That's why I was thinking Buyatari might have been thinking of RE0......
Buyatari
07-31-2003, 04:13 AM
He said the game was an early build 20% completed but that it was RE 1.5 for N64. Its been A LONG TIME since I spoke with him about this. Its possible I got something screwed up.
Now I do have some er papers which indicate that RE1.5 was at least talked about for the N64. Its possible this got me screwed up but I doubt it. I could have sworn he said RE 1.5 when last we spoke.
Its also possible any reference to the game was removed from his website after this happened.
Anybody else know the details of this case? The main point I was trying to make was what happend to the proto and the legal action that took place.
Adam
adaml
07-31-2003, 03:17 PM
Mike Gedeon of Videogameconnection.com has been generous enough to post some pics. He said they will up sometime tomorrow.
www.videogameconnection.com
Adam
Dude, shave your neck. O_O
That list pic...if you need a thumb, I know just the guy...
Buyatari
07-31-2003, 09:22 PM
Haha thats not my neck.
Though mine might need a shave as well.
I don't know what you guys are talking about I don't see any head just a watermark.
http://www.videogameconnection.com/ARC6REAL1.jpg
Adam
Li Wang
08-05-2003, 05:54 AM
I get it. It was going to be 6 mediocre games in 1, just like Caltron. Only 4 are playable.
This certainly explains the weird title. The Guerilla War clone looks a bit intriguing. Past Gedeon's melon I also spot what looks like a racing game and maybe a sports game.
adaml
08-05-2003, 10:07 AM
I get it. It was going to be 6 mediocre games in 1, just like Caltron. Only 4 are playable.
This certainly explains the weird title. The Guerilla War clone looks a bit intriguing. Past Gedeon's melon I also spot what looks like a racing game and maybe a sports game.
Only 4 are playable? That stinks. I wonder if it because they simply were not finished yet or perhaps bitrot has already set it, if that's possible?
If the 2 unplayable games are actually finished and on the cart, (and I am NOT trolling here) they could most likely be accessed through a ROM dump of the cart. Look at Cheetahmen II. You simply cannot access the last two levels, 5&6, on the cart itself, but using the magic of emulation, the mad skills of BMF54123 found a way to access those final two levels.
Someone needs to send Gedeon to see that witch doctor from Beetlejuice so his head can be shrunken down to the proper size so we can see the rest of the pics.
adaml
05-31-2007, 10:43 PM
Hey Adam, did you ever shave your neck ;)
NESaholic
06-01-2007, 05:36 AM
And the pic is down again, dang i want to see it. I heard of this proto way back. Can somone upload a pic or some screens?
Buyatari
06-01-2007, 05:59 AM
That hairy man is Mike Gedeon.
And the pic is down again, dang i want to see it. I heard of this proto way back. Can somone upload a pic or some screens?
And the pic is down again, dang i want to see it. I heard of this proto way back. Can somone upload a pic or some screens?
If you want more pics or info ask Jason its now his game.
DreamTR
06-01-2007, 04:48 PM
Bit rot never affected the two missing games, there are just XXX and ??? where the game titles are, so this is basically Arcadia IV instead of VI.