Games that killed Franchises?

[Ackman]

I agree, I miss the old style Castlevania. Never cared for the Metroid-vania stuff, too RPG-like for my tastes, and I hate wandering around aimlessly in games.



This x 1000 I hate metrovania, meh. Bring back the oldschool style! I hate people complaining about games being linear, okay so you have a big world hub and now you have slog from place to place looking at your map, getting confused sometimes, *newsflash* it's still linear! It's just pointless busywork and padding to make the game longer. I wonder how many hours are spent wondering around getting lost and traveling from place to place in these marathon hour games, meh.

[Edmond Dantes]

Zero Mission is reason enough to never play the original again.

I have yet to play a video game remake that was better than the original incarnation.

(Keep in mind I said "remake," not "port.")

[Ackman]

What about Double Dragon Advance?

[Edmond Dantes]

Haven't played it.

Oh by the way, I came up with another game that killed a franchise:

The Cheetahmen II LOL

[T2KFreeker]

Dunno if it was said, but something must be said about Bubsy 3D. Even though a VERY acquired taste, 99% of people hate the game and nobody absolutely loves it either. The nail in the coffin of that series for sure.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Dunno if it was said, but something must be said about Bubsy 3D. Even though a VERY acquired taste, 99% of people hate the game and nobody absolutely loves it either. The nail in the coffin of that series for sure.

I did.


Speaking of poor 3D games, what about Bubsy 3D? I've been playing both and well, they really are as bad as people say.

(Both was in reference to Earthworm Jim 3D and Bubsy.) Keep in mind I play bad games on purpose.

[kedawa]

I actually really like the Metroidvania games, at least the first couple of them anyway.
I'd like to see a traditional Castlevania again, though, as long as they don't go back to the stiff controls of the older games.


I have yet to play a video game remake that was better than the original incarnation.

(Keep in mind I said "remake," not "port.")
Have you played Resident Evil for Gamecube?
It's a pretty big improvement.

[Richter Belmount]

I did.



(Both was in reference to Earthworm Jim 3D and Bubsy.) Keep in mind I play bad games on purpose.

its cause your taste are horrible

[Edmond Dantes]

Have you played Resident Evil for Gamecube?
It's a pretty big improvement.

I watched someone else play it. Found myself preferring the more B-Movie esque nature of the original vs. the "lookit me I'm serious now!" take of the remake.

[Ryudo]

Haven't played it.

Oh by the way, I came up with another game that killed a franchise:

The Cheetahmen II LOL

Zero mission is better than the original Metroid by far.
REmake on GCN better than the original by far. IMO best remake ever is Ys The Oath in Felgana.

Also I hate FPS with a passion but Metroid Prime is my fave of the whole series and I played the series since 1986.

[Smashed Brother]

What about Double Dragon Advance?

Nope. This is wrong.

[calthaer]

Actually you *can* group them into squads. IIRC you have to highlight the units then press Ctrl + number, then pressing that number always picks that squad.

Also, you can mass-select by holding down the button and dragging the mouse anyway.

You cannot do this in Warcraft II. Now, they made a "Battle.Net" edition later - maybe they introduced this function in that game, which was re-done so that multiplayer happened on Battle.net. But in the original game, this option isn't present.

[Kiddo]

But... the SuFami version of Famicom Tantei Club 2 came out over a year after the Satellaview game, just like the Heisei Shin Onigashima carts.

I didn't really "count" the remake (much like how people didn't think the HD Earthworm Jim counts), although since this thread has been extensively talking about them since Metroid was brought up, perhaps we'll need this clarified...

Anyhow, I enjoy a Metroidvania. But for all you guys going "I miss the retro-style CVs", have you not played Dracula X Chronicles and Castlevania: The Adventure ReBirth? Not to mention that CV's been going in a variety of genres since the MV, with some of them being more questiionable than others (A 3D Fighter? A Japan-only arcade lightgun-esque game for a franchise which primarily performs overseas rather than in Japan? Sometimes I wonder what Konami is smoking.)

Anyway, back into naming a Videogame franchise killer... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FranchiseKiller)

dang I think I'm running out.

[Edmond Dantes]

You cannot do this in Warcraft II. Now, they made a "Battle.Net" edition later - maybe they introduced this function in that game, which was re-done so that multiplayer happened on Battle.net. But in the original game, this option isn't present.

I'll have to recheck this, because I do remember grouping units in the original Warcraft II. Also, you should still be able to select by click-dragging.

Though yes, if you like Warcraft II at all you need to get the Battle.net edition. It's pretty much Warcraft II: Champion Edition.

[Ackman]

Nope. This is wrong.

As much as I liked the old arcade version, I can't see any reason to go back to it after playing DDA. I didn't like the NES version, there I said it, deal with it.

[The 1 2 P]

I didn't like the NES version, there I said it, deal with it.

Theres nothing wrong with that statement. I liked it but it isn't nearly as good as the arcade, Genesis or XBLA versions. I've never played Double Dragon Advance yet but I'd definitely check it out if I could find a copy in the wild.

[Tupin]

Blinx 2: Masters of Time & Space probably killed the Blinx franchise.

And nothing of value was lost.

[Ryudo]

Blinx 2: Masters of Time & Space probably killed the Blinx franchise.

And nothing of value was lost.

LOL I didn't even know there was a second

[Kitsune Sniper]

Blinx 2: Masters of Time & Space probably killed the Blinx franchise.

And nothing of value was lost.

... they made a sequel?

[Breetai]

It's hilarious that there's all this talk about rebooting older franchises from Sega, and they just announced this sweepstakes: http://blogs.sega.com/2011/10/03/sega-sweepstakes-name-that-game/

Name the game the song is from and you get the chance to win it. I won't spoil it for those of you who want to test your mettle :p
Is Sega redoing Daytona, or just releasing the original (hopefully arcade!) for PSN?

[ReaXan]

Resident Evil 5 took the game away from its core audience and gave it to the mainstream. Its when I lost interest in the series.

Resident Evil Gun games for Wii were nice games, but would have been nice to have on the Gamecube. Fans of the series had been waiting long times for new RE material

Resident Evil 4 was a good balance of core/mainstream and truly the best game of the series.

Resident Evil 0/Remake were games that appealed to core players yet couldn't hit the mainstream.

Resident Evil Code Veronica- A solid RE game, yet seems fragmented at times like something is missing somewhere.

Resident Evil 3 was a slightly worse version of RE2 but still worth 1 playthrough.

Resident Evil 2- The 2nd best game of the series behind 4

Resident Evil 1- A truly special game ahead of its time for Playstation One audiences.

[Emperor Megas]

Resident Evil 1- A truly special game ahead of its time for Playstation One audiences.It was multiplatform, so Saturn and PC audiences also got to enjoy it as well. I'm not really sure that it was ahead of it's time though. It was more or less a beefed up take on the Alone in the Dark formula, which was released a few years before.

[ReaXan]

It was multiplatform, so Saturn and PC audiences also got to enjoy it as well. I'm not really sure that it was ahead of it's time though. It was more or less a beefed up take on the Alone in the Dark formula, which was released a few years before.

it looked really good on the PSONe, and computers were still expensive back then lol