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jajaja
05-07-2007, 04:44 PM
Final Fight One is nice. Own 2 copies of that game myself ;)

DigitalSpace
05-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Average week, imo.

The Great Dane
05-07-2007, 10:10 PM
Man, I was hoping for more NES games than that. I really am wanting the original Contra and Super C as well as Metroid 1 and Super Metroid.

7th lutz
05-07-2007, 10:37 PM
Man, I was hoping for more NES games than that. I really am wanting the original Contra and Super C as well as Metroid 1 and Super Metroid.

The thing is the amount nes games on the vc will improve in time. Nintendo only releases up to 3 or 5 vc games every Monday in North America. The amount games the nes gets week is effected by the tg-16,snes or the genesis.

As far as the nes, I don't know when, but it is on Wikipedia's list of upcoming games for the nes. It shouldn't take as long as Ninja Gaiden, or TMNT2: the arcade game. When those 2 games come out, it is unclear due to the fact the Esrb rating come out for those 2 games last week and it is tradionally for the nes so far to having games just getting a ESRB rating to come out much later.

For the nes getting next "true" big game it should be Zelda 2 or Metroid. The other nes games before Tmnt 2 or Ninja Gaiden are Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley, Mach Rider, Pac-Man, and Pro Wrestling. I don't know the dates of when those games will be released. Super Metriod should be released soon depending when nintendo releases snes games due to the fact, there are 7 snes games that got ERSB ratings including Super Metriod.

GrandAmChandler
05-14-2007, 09:29 AM
Today's crop:

Ninja Spirit - TG-16
Ninja Gaiden -NES
Pac-Man - NES

segagamer4life
05-14-2007, 09:44 AM
Not too bad, but I want Super Metroid!!!!!

diskoboy
05-14-2007, 10:19 AM
Damn. It figures they'd put Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Spirit up.

Still not buying shit until I see a Metroid game, Nintendo.

segagamer4life
05-14-2007, 11:07 AM
Damn. It figures they'd put Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Spirit up.

Still not buying shit until I see a Metroid game, Nintendo.

tell em man.. I want my SUPER METROID!!!!

agbulls
05-14-2007, 11:36 AM
How is Ninja Spirit? I'm trying to buy the best TG 16 games only on the VC. I can't imagine it can touch the Ninja Gaiden games.

Xexyz
05-14-2007, 12:13 PM
Ninja Spirit blows the NES Ninja Gaiden games out of the water (personal opinion of course). One of the finer Ninja platformers of days past. NEC Avenue did a great job porting this Irem coin-op to the TG-16.

7th lutz
05-14-2007, 12:15 PM
I didn't expect Ninja Gaiden to be released yet. I figured Pac-man would be though. I hope this continues with having 2 nes games a week, so it would be no time to get Metroid on the vc.

MrRoboto19XX
05-14-2007, 01:12 PM
Ramble about Super Metroid all you want...I want SoR2!

c0ldb33r
05-14-2007, 04:15 PM
Ninja Spirit is an awesome, awesome game. Definitely worth the points.

DigitalSpace
05-15-2007, 02:07 AM
Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Spirit make this a good week. As for Pac-Man, well, they can't all be winners. Sure, it's not the 2600 version, but still, there's so much better out there.

Oh, and SUPER METROID PLZ.*

* - Can't help it - after all, it's my favorite game of all time.

-hellvin-
05-15-2007, 02:21 AM
Ahhhhh hell yeahz. Ninja Gaiden!

I've been wanting to hook up my NES to replay that for a while now, and I have just 500 points left!!

I wonder if I can still beat the game without dying...used to be able to own that game to the core.

segagamer4life
05-15-2007, 08:15 AM
its funny, same here, I used to be able to kick the games asss, I went back to the snes trilogy last year some time, and it was like I never played the game, sure I remembered the levels, but it was me who was getting owned... wtf,,,lol

heybtbm
05-15-2007, 08:26 AM
In 1989, I broke my computer desk by slamming my fist on top of it so many times because of Ninja Gaiden. Definitely the most anger-inducing video game of all time (and equally fun too).

segagamer4life
05-15-2007, 08:44 AM
In 1989, I broke my computer desk by slamming my fist on top of it so many times because of Ninja Gaiden. Definitely the most anger-inducing video game of all time (and equally fun too).


LOL easily.....still alot of fun none the less.

Graham Mitchell
05-15-2007, 01:41 PM
I beat Ninja Gaiden....


......on an emulator with save states.

Seriously, though, this is a good week. And NES Pac-man ain't all that bad. If you need a fix on your Wii, this isn't a bad way to get it. I'm upset because I'm in the midst of moving and my wii is in a box. Oh well, there'll be some good stuff waiting when I get all moved in.

heybtbm
05-15-2007, 02:22 PM
I beat Ninja Gaiden....


......on an emulator with save states.

I beat the NES version for real back in the day. I'm not sure I could do it again though. I played through the SNES version a few years ago and beat it again, although it probably had more to do with unlimited continues than video game skills.

-hellvin-
05-16-2007, 04:52 AM
its funny, same here, I used to be able to kick the games asss, I went back to the snes trilogy last year some time, and it was like I never played the game, sure I remembered the levels, but it was me who was getting owned... wtf,,,lol

The game's so easy once you know the monster positions. Half of them you can make walk into oblivion and disappear. Ducking under birds is key and jump slash is your friend. The first two bosses you can rape too if you hold on to the spin slash ninjitsu. I almost beat it without dying except for freaking level 6-2. If I get the spin slash which is right outside the door it screws me over because I need to use it on the part right after with the rocket man ninja star flying guys...I think my next play though I will be bypassing the one outside...

GrandAmChandler
05-21-2007, 09:11 AM
Today's lot:

Streets of Rage 2 - Genesis
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest - SNES
Blazing Lazers - TG-16

Discuss.

-GAC-

segagamer4life
05-21-2007, 09:46 AM
Today's lot:

Streets of Rage 2 - Genesis
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest - SNES
Blazing Lazers - TG-16

Discuss.

-GAC-


not bad,, Nice to see SoR getting some love.... as well blazing lazers..

Gapporin
05-21-2007, 10:19 AM
Wow. Very good stuff this week. I may have to dip into the coffers for Blazing Lazers...

DigitalSpace
05-21-2007, 10:46 AM
Excuse the short post, but this week = pure win.

MrRoboto19XX
05-21-2007, 11:31 AM
My VC Channel isnt showing any updates, anyone else have this problem?

diskoboy
05-21-2007, 12:39 PM
N64 Paper Mario was just announced.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/21/paper-mario-to-be-folded-into-virtual-console/

La4s
05-21-2007, 02:00 PM
My VC Channel isnt showing any updates, anyone else have this problem?

Check your router ;)

The Great Dane
05-21-2007, 06:19 PM
I bought DKC2 as soon as I saw it today :D

djbeatmongrel
05-21-2007, 06:36 PM
Ok SoR2 makes me wish for acheivements on wii. this will be the first time i have cared at all for acheivements

7th lutz
05-21-2007, 07:08 PM
This is a great week of vc games and I own all 3 of them. If you like Shoot'em ups then get blazering lasers.

7th lutz
05-25-2007, 04:26 PM
I just found out that for the tg-16 that next weeks Monday tg-16 vc game will not be World Sports Competition. It was been pushed back 2 weeks. The game replacing World Sports Competition on Monday is J.J. & Jeff.

Hudson also announced their Schedule for vc game in June in this order:

Dead Moon
World Sports Competition
Bloody Wolf
China Warrior
This is according to: http://vc-pce.com/usa/e/index.html

7th lutz
05-28-2007, 12:36 PM
Todays lot

J.J &Jeff
Act Raiser
Kid Chameleon

discuss

diskoboy
05-28-2007, 01:07 PM
Figures they'd put out Act Raiser when I've sworn off the Wii until they release either Metroid on the VC.

And JJ & Jeff sucks. The Japanese version of the game was so much better. But it'd probably get an 'M' rating.

DigitalSpace
05-28-2007, 03:09 PM
Actraiser is the winner this week. One of my favorite SNES games.

c0ldb33r
05-29-2007, 12:24 PM
I used to love Actraiser. I really enjoyed the village building portions.

The action sequences were fine, but I really loved building the villages, watching them evolve, etc...

7th lutz
06-01-2007, 06:24 PM
For Monday, The Legend of Zelda II: The Adventure of Link has been announced by Nintendo.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/01/zelda-ii-coming-to-virtual-console-monday/

Sorry, no Metroid yet have been announced unless Metroid is 1 of the other 3 vc games. There should be 3 more virtual game console games on Monday that haven't been announced since there is 96 vc games and The Legend of Legend of Zelda 2 is the 100th vc game according to Nintendo with the game being released on Monday.

One of the other 3 games should be Dead Moon on Monday.

heybtbm
06-01-2007, 08:15 PM
For Monday, The Legend of Zelda II: The Adventure of Link has been announced by Nintendo.

Zelda II is one of the most unjustly maligned games of all time. I enjoyed it more than the original Zelda back in the day. I have the NES cart and GBA version, so I won't be downloading it...but it's nice to see Zelda II get some love once in awhile.

7th lutz
06-04-2007, 11:40 AM
Todays lot

Milon’s Secret Castle
ToeJam & Earl™ in Panic on Funkotron
Dead Moon
The Legend of Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

Hopefully this means there will be 4 vc games being released every week now.

Discuss

diskoboy
06-04-2007, 11:47 AM
Todays lot

Milon’s Secret Castle
ToeJam & Earl™ in Panic on Funkotron
Dead Moon
The Legend of Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

Hopefully this means there will be 4 vc games being released every week now.

Discuss

I'm very, very, very close to losing all faith in Nintendo.

I'm also seriously considering selling my Wii.

Still no Metroid. It should've been out months ago. If it's not out by the end of June, I'm forever done with Nintendo. Not to mention Nintendo hasn't really justified my $250 purchase with their shit selection of games, out thus far.

TurboGenesis
06-04-2007, 11:54 AM
I like Dead Moon :)
If you are like Darius style game playing shoot them up give it a try. Dead Moon display awesome paralax scrolling for its time of Turbo Grafx 16.

64Bits
06-04-2007, 12:20 PM
Many recent VC games have gotten me interested in purchasing a wii, but I'm still not sure...and mmmmmmm, Paper Mario.

dcescott
06-04-2007, 01:09 PM
Just wait, neo geo is on the block here in a while:)
I am waiting for Parasol Stars, Yo Bro, Cadash, Legenadry Axe II to name a few. Pasarsol Stars is a good one, the rest are my childhood favs. Waiting...

ubersaurus
06-04-2007, 01:09 PM
I'm very, very, very close to losing all faith in Nintendo.

I'm also seriously considering selling my Wii.

Still no Metroid. It should've been out months ago. If it's not out by the end of June, I'm forever done with Nintendo. Not to mention Nintendo hasn't really justified my $250 purchase with their shit selection of games, out thus far.

Don't you already own super metroid? If so, why the fuck would you want it on the wii? If not, why the hell are you whining about a game you've not played?

And why would super metroid come out before metroid 1, anyway? And in either case, wouldn't it make more sense to release a metroid game on VC closer to the launch of Metroid Prime 3?

Let's get real here. If you're thinking of selling a console because they have not yet put up a Super Nintendo game for download on it...that's just ridiculous.

c0ldb33r
06-04-2007, 01:11 PM
Still no Metroid. It should've been out months ago. If it's not out by the end of June, I'm forever done with Nintendo.
Why not just play it via gamecube in your wii? It's an unlockable in Metroid Prime. Also, it can be played on gameboy player (or GBA) with a copy of either Metroid: Zero Mission or the classic Metroid cart. I prefer Zero Mission in any event. :)

I'm relatively pleased at the offerings of the VC so far. My only real changes would be to allow for import games and make the games cheaper.

dcescott
06-04-2007, 01:11 PM
I did download Shockman. I like it, a little something for everyone in it.

heybtbm
06-04-2007, 01:15 PM
Still no Metroid. It should've been out months ago.

Don't you think they're waiting for the Metroid Prime 3 tie-in this August? I'll bet the NES and SNES Metroids are released a week or two before MP3 hits stores (August 20th).

skaar
06-04-2007, 01:31 PM
I'm very, very, very close to losing all faith in Nintendo.

I'm also seriously considering selling my Wii.

Still no Metroid. It should've been out months ago. If it's not out by the end of June, I'm forever done with Nintendo. Not to mention Nintendo hasn't really justified my $250 purchase with their shit selection of games, out thus far.

Dude, stop whining.

jcalder8
06-04-2007, 01:50 PM
I'm very, very, very close to losing all faith in Nintendo.

I'm also seriously considering selling my Wii.

Still no Metroid. It should've been out months ago. If it's not out by the end of June, I'm forever done with Nintendo. Not to mention Nintendo hasn't really justified my $250 purchase with their shit selection of games, out thus far.

If its not out by the end of June I'll take the Wii off your hands I'm not done with Nintendo just sick of still having to search for a Wii.

diskoboy
06-04-2007, 01:52 PM
Dude, stop whining.

It's a free country. Make me.

FantasiaWHT
06-04-2007, 02:54 PM
It's a free country. Make me.

Dude I haven't heard that since middle school. How old are you?

I'd like to take the moment to ask very very nicely for Shining Force I and/or II on VC, please!

blissfulnoise
06-04-2007, 03:34 PM
I'd like to take the moment to ask very very nicely for Shining Force I and/or II on VC, please!

I expect that Sega will be releasing a Sega Genesis Collection II soon which will likely include the Shining games (I, II, Darkness), Landstalker, Streets of Rage series, and various other gems left out of the first collection.

This is of course assuming they hold off by just releasing these titles via XBLA and the VC.

And while I've taken the bait on a few of these games at $5, $6, $8, and $10 a pop, it's amazing that you could get 28 Genesis games for $19.99.

Nintendo should REALLY look at a subscription based model...

Chris
06-04-2007, 03:50 PM
I'm still waiting til someone releases a modchip that enables you to purchase games from other regions, or at least a goddamn 60Hz option in all the PAL VC releases (the exception being the TG16 stuff).
As a PAL gamer I'm kind of fed up with the situation right now, I'm not going to pay for slow/ bordered 50Hz games.

And though things like Blazing Lasers and Military Madness are awsome and worth every penny, we won't ever see gems like Final Match Tennis or Sin & Punishment over here.

I'm also hoping that someday someone will hack the emulators to enable the use of the Wiimote for SNES games, I mean, games like Super Bomberman only need 4-5 buttons at most, which could be easily mapped onto the Wiimote (A, B, 1, 2, +), so why not?
Or more importantly, how about Mario Kart 64 and other N64 games? Why no Wiimote + Nunchuk support?
I won't buy four classic controllers (those things aren't even wireless), but I'll definately buy four Wiimotes and Nunchuks.

Imho the emulators need a serious overhaul, regarding configurability, but that won't happen, until someone manages to crack them.
Atm Nintendo seems to make more money out of controllers than everything else.. just ridiculous.

7th lutz
06-04-2007, 04:53 PM
I'm very, very, very close to losing all faith in Nintendo.

I'm also seriously considering selling my Wii.

Still no Metroid. It should've been out months ago. If it's not out by the end of June, I'm forever done with Nintendo. Not to mention Nintendo hasn't really justified my $250 purchase with their shit selection of games, out thus far.

What would you do if Metroid or Super Metroid gets released on the Virtual game on the first Monday of July after you get a rid of the Wii?

DragonMaster Sam
06-04-2007, 05:34 PM
I'd like to take the moment to ask very very nicely for Shining Force I and/or II on VC, please!
I'm down with that, but I already have Shining Force I for GBA. Shining Force II would be grand.



Nintendo should REALLY look at a subscription based model...
Something like XBLA? If Nintendo would do something like that, they should somehow get the 1989 TMNT arcade game on there.

FantasiaWHT
06-04-2007, 06:01 PM
Yeah, I'd take the SF's in any form- collection or VC. SF is pretty much the only game I can think of that I would spend the prices they are asking for on VC. Everything else I either own or have in collection format.

The amount of money they want is just TOO much for an impulse buy for me. If games were $1-$3 apiece, I probably would've spent $100+ on games by now- I wouldn't be able to stop myself.

DigitalSpace
06-06-2007, 01:39 AM
Good week. But then again, there would have to be some serious fuck ups for a week with the releases of Zelda II and TJ&E 2 not to be good.

Daria
06-06-2007, 11:03 AM
I'm down with that, but I already have Shining Force I for GBA.

That's hardly the same thing. Well okay... somewhat of the same thing. But they destroyed the effectivness of magic in that version, in favor of that crappy card system. Not to mention fucked around with the story. It' a decent remake but I'd much rather play the original.

I too am waiting on some Shining Force goodness. I already own the games but it's the one title that I'll rebuy. Just being my favorite, releasing it for the Wii gives me another excuse to beat it again.

It'll happen eventually, they're releasing Shining in the Darkness (or have released I dunno haven't checked the Wii in a few days.) so the sequals are sure to follow. Nothing I'd sell my Wii over if it doesn't happen immediately. :P

Wolfrider31
06-06-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm still waiting til someone releases a modchip that enables you to purchase games from other regions....

Agreed. There are lots of games I'd like to get from the Japanese VC service. They should take a lesson from Gametap. Monster Boy games in the original Japanese? Damn straight.



Something like XBLA? If Nintendo would do something like that, they should somehow get the 1989 TMNT arcade game on there.

I think that's a good idea. I'd gladly pay a monthly fee (even hitting 20 bucks a month, for access to the VC games and other content. The prices in alot of cases just don't make sense. Especially with competing services on the PC or anthology releases (cough, Sonic Collection, cough).

slip81
06-11-2007, 10:44 AM
today's additions

Sonic 2
Lode Runner
Golden Axe 2

Source (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/11/virtual-console-adds-sonic-2-golden-axe-2-and-lode-runner-1/)

7th lutz
06-11-2007, 11:38 AM
At least two good genesis games were released. I am hoping that nintendo will be releasing more n64 games on the vc soon.

DigitalSpace
06-11-2007, 07:48 PM
Sonic 2 = best Genesis game ever, imo.

And Golden Axe 2 is nice as well. That being said, it's another good week for the VC.

DragonMaster Sam
06-11-2007, 09:05 PM
Sonic 2 and Golden Axe 2 are good, but if you have them on the Sega Genesis Collection, it's pretty much pointless.

7th lutz
06-15-2007, 05:22 PM
Two game have been anounced to be released on Monday by Hudson. There are:

Bloody Wolf
World Sports Competition

http://vc-pce.com/usa/e/index.htm is the source. The site is owned and maintained by Hudson themselves.

CreamSoda
06-16-2007, 11:33 AM
The VC lineup is pretty good so far, but I really want to see some more N64 games. I've heard they are hard to emulate, but c'mon GIVE US Body Harvest, Pilot Wings, Banjo Kazooie, Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon, Bomberman 64, Blast Corps, ect. Then I will start down loading! I don't have a problem with whats on the vc right now, but most of the games I want I already owned.

skaar
06-16-2007, 11:44 AM
What would you do if Metroid or Super Metroid gets released on the Virtual game on the first Monday of July after you get a rid of the Wii?

Be laughed at moreso?

diskoboy
06-16-2007, 12:08 PM
Be laughed at moreso?

Piss off, Skaar. Like I really care what you think...

Who would be doing the laughing Skaar, you? Because I don't think the games being put out are worth the money? Because Nintendo doesn't listen to their customers? Because Nintendo keeps rehashing the same games over and over again? It's not worth the $250 I paid for it? Because I'm a 32 year old gamer, who doesn't like playing Cooking Mama, JRPG's, Poke-my-mom, or these other kiddie games that (again) seem to flood every Nintendo console?

I can and do play both Metroid's, for free, on my PC, anyway. If Nintendo doesn't wanna get paid for it, that's all well and good with me. No loss, there.

7th lutz
06-16-2007, 12:46 PM
The VC lineup is pretty good so far, but I really want to see some more N64 games. I've heard they are hard to emulate, but c'mon GIVE US Body Harvest, Pilot Wings, Banjo Kazooie, Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon, Bomberman 64, Blast Corps, ect. Then I will start down loading! I don't have a problem with whats on the vc right now, but most of the games I want I already owned.

There might be more one game on Monday. It might be a n64 game since F-Zero X was released in Europe. I will be shocked if any rare n64 games like Banjo Kazooie will be released on the vc.

FantasiaWHT
06-16-2007, 02:31 PM
Because Nintendo doesn't listen to their customers? Because Nintendo keeps rehashing the same games over and over again?

Considering that those same rehashes fly off the shelves like there's no tomorrow, I think that's a fairly good sign that Nintendo IS listening to their customers, and those rehashes ARE what their customers want.

ubersaurus
06-16-2007, 03:15 PM
Piss off, Skaar. Like I really care what you think...

Who would be doing the laughing Skaar, you? Because I don't think the games being put out are worth the money? Because Nintendo doesn't listen to their customers? Because Nintendo keeps rehashing the same games over and over again? It's not worth the $250 I paid for it? Because I'm a 32 year old gamer, who doesn't like playing Cooking Mama, JRPG's, Poke-my-mom, or these other kiddie games that (again) seem to flood every Nintendo console?

I can and do play both Metroid's, for free, on my PC, anyway. If Nintendo doesn't wanna get paid for it, that's all well and good with me. No loss, there.

If you're just going to brush them off with "oh it's a kiddy game" then honestly, why the hell did you get a wii in the first place? You knew that nintendo's first party games tend to not deal with overt violence and shit like that. And you could surmise that being a popular japanese console, it would get a lot of japanese developer support as well. And if you're already emulating the metroids on your PC, then I can't imagine you bought the machine JUST to play them on virtual console. It's like you got it just to complain about.

For a 32 year old you're not exactly showing much maturity with the wii.

koster
06-16-2007, 09:20 PM
Again with the kiddie games on Nintendo consoles... :deadhorse:

Personally, I'm looking forward to No More Heroes and Manhunt 2 for the Wii. :evil:

zektor
06-16-2007, 10:58 PM
Aha...the whole Nintendo "kiddie" thing again. I won't beat the horse, but I would like to quickly add my thought:

Maybe many people are thinking about that whole ordeal exactly the opposite of what it really is. I am a 32 year old man, with a child. I purchased a Wii for *her*, and for myself in second place. My thought process is that it is an inexpensive console with some neat new ideas, guaranteed to bring many great things for her, and surely will spit out a good few games that I will really enjoy. But, again, she is of course coming first.

If you look at it in that perspective, maybe it is the younger (not *way* younger mind you) group that would be more interested in the consoles that are graphic powerhouses, consumed by realistic and most of the time violent games. Hey, maybe it IS the older crowd purchasing these "kiddie" systems....the crowd WITH kids :)

Enough said on that point. I really like the VC. Of course I have the games through emulation too, but there is something more convenient (and more legal obviously) about getting them for the VC. I have already purchased a few choice titles I really love.

I am really hoping to see more N64 games as well. Wouldn't it be great to see some other game systems added to the VC, such as Colecovision and 2600?

Icarus Moonsight
06-17-2007, 12:30 AM
Nice point zektor. I think you're on to something. :)
Bloody Wolf sounds good! I been playing Dragon's Curse too much anyway... need new blood. :D

zektor
06-17-2007, 01:00 AM
Nice point zektor. I think you're on to something. :)
Bloody Wolf sounds good! I been playing Dragon's Curse too much anyway... need new blood. :D

Ahh, Dragon's Curse! What a great game. One that is not *yet* in my lineup on the VC. I originally purchased this game for my beloved Sega Master System, only to find years later that a superior version existed for the TG16. That game was/is a true work of art. Thanks for reminding me! This game is certainly my next stop.

Graham Mitchell
06-17-2007, 02:42 PM
Ahh, Dragon's Curse! What a great game. One that is not *yet* in my lineup on the VC. I originally purchased this game for my beloved Sega Master System, only to find years later that a superior version existed for the TG16. That game was/is a true work of art. Thanks for reminding me! This game is certainly my next stop.

Actually, I'm not so sure the TG-16 version is superior. It looks bizarre compared to the SMS version (sorry, Dragon-Man just looks retarded in the TG version), and I don't like the music as well. The TG-16 translation is gawdawful as well. "You've been turned into a TOTALLY DISGUSTING CREATURE!" The SMS's color palette is really pretty comparable to the PC Engine's, so there's really no reason to kick yourself for not getting Dragon's Curse. I was kind of disappointed when I dl'ed it.

Also, in regards to the whole age-group thing, let me give you some stats from my social circle. Out of 10 29-32 year old males, 9 of us have Wii's, one has a 360. So, I agree with you, Zektor; it's high-school kids who are buying the more graphically-ballsy machines. Everybody I know my age is sick of FPS's and Final Fantasy clones.

Random Question: Anybody think we'll see Parasol Stars on the VC? I don't know if Working Designs renewed the copyright for the US release. Taito is publishing on the VC, so maybe it's possible. What do ya'll think?