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kupomogli
10-22-2011, 01:10 AM
Now, as overrated, I don't mean Halo Reach, Call of Duty Black Ops, World of Warcraft, etc, etc, because while the games are popular, the games actually have great gameplay for their respective genres. When I say overrated, something that receives endless praise, but then you go out and purchase the game only to be rewarded with one of the biggest shitfests you've played.

This is obviously only each persons opinion, but there are a lot of games that get insane amounts of praise yet suck total ass.

Final Fantasy 13. This game needs no introduction, but oddly enough, it's loved as much as it's hated. For how bad it is, I just don't get it.

Fallout 3. My personal choice for the most overrated game this gen. The graphics are amazing, I'll admit, some of the best looking graphics this generation mind you, but damn if it's not one of the most boring games I've ever played. Huge explorable world, but every location looks the same. You pick up the same weapons repeatedly, and although you can create your own weapons, you'll have a few weapons that are slightly different yet practically the same? Combat you're either playing it as an extremely lackluster FPS or a lackluster RPG, your choice, and as an RPG you have practically no versatility other than weapon strengths. The beginning of the game was fine, but my overall opinion, and this is after playing 30 hours, is how the fuck did this get perfect scores all across the board and have so much praise? Oblivion and Morrowind on the other hand are enjoyable due to variety in gameplay. More than likely, Skyrim will be as well.

God of War 3. Being almost exactly like the first two this is a given. Being pro Sony you'd expect this game to be one of my favored, but it's one of the worst stylish action games I've ever played. The puzzles bring the game to a grinding halt due to the fact that some of them are some cryptic bullshit that it's right under your nose but it's the last thing you'd ever expect. The combat is extremely repetitive and there's less variety to your skills than most games, if not all, in this genre. The story, which oddly enough was praised for being so amazing, was.... really not there at all, and fucking terrible mind you. Dante's Inferno was an amazing game that was bashed by reviews and gamers alike, yet shit like this gets praised to no end. Even X Men Origins Wolverine, with how repetitive it is has more variety and is much more fun than God of War 3.

And why I even started this thread. Dead Rising 2 Off the Record. I bought this game due to how much praise it received and while I didn't watch too many videos, I wanted free roam zombie game. Nearly every weapon has a different look but is practically the same. Take the skateboard and the tricycle. If you were given some Tony Hawk gameplay when using the skateboard, that'd be a whole different story, but R2 to go forward, no tricks to be done, it's nothing more than the tricycle which is R2 to go forward. There's really no variety to the gameplay, even with many of the custom created weapons. It's like. Ooo wow, this [insert random item being used on zombie] looks awesome, but then once you see it once, the novelty of it wears off. While it's not as monotonous and boring as Fallout 3 for sure, and definitely not nearly as overrated, it's still a pretty crappy game that is overall highly rated. Atleast Dead Rising 2 was highly rated, and this is pretty much the same game with some minor differences, one being that you're now playing as Frank West.

If such shitty games didn't get reviewed and plastered with unrealistic scores, and then purchased by the fanbase who immediately praises the game because they don't want to feel butthurt that they spent $60 on a game that sucks total ass only for the rest of the fanbase to do the same, then developers wouldn't continue developing such garbage. Maybe they would, but maybe there would be less AAA titles that were total bullshit if people would just tell the developers the truth. Hey [random developer,] your game sucks ass and we don't like it. Everyone now days is afraid to give an honest opinion as the opinion might be rejected by others so they do nothing other than follow the crowd like sheep to be accepted. Stop being pussies and form your own opinions.

*edit*

Obviously this is a rant and a post won't change anything, but after wasting my money on another shitty game, there are quite a lot of them this gen I'll say, I just felt the need to say something.

Tupin
10-22-2011, 01:38 AM
I really do prefer the original Fallout games to Fallout 3, I agree that it was empty, and man, was it glitchy.

Johnny_Rock
10-22-2011, 01:54 AM
Black Ops by far

I don't really have a problem with Modern Warfare. But the Treyarch games are total cash cows that don't deserve any of the acclaim they've gotten. The erratic spawning system, the knife range, maps have too many hiding spots, maps are designed in a no-skill circular flow, extremely low skill ceiling, too easy to get kill streaks, sniping is basically useless, none of the multiplayer character models are black, zombies is a cash cow within a cash cow due to horrifically overpriced DLC. I could probably think of more if I tried but that was off the top of my head.

WCP
10-22-2011, 02:21 AM
I'm coming in here to defend Fallout 3.

Fallout 3, to me, is the best game of the last 6 or 7 years. I'm not saying that lightly, because I have a ton of respect for games like Bioshock and Uncharted, and other great games of this current cycle. Still, to me, Fallout 3 takes the cake.

Does Fallout 3 have it's share of problems? Absolutely. It's glitchy as fuck, and the character models are pretty horrible, and the voice acting seems to repeat quite a bit. The graphics in some ways are amazing, and in other ways are really crappy. The sound is both good and bad, and the inventory system, and having to deal with how heavy items are, etc, etc, can be a pain in the arse.

Having said all of that, there is no other game that has me feeling like I have truly stepped inside a living and breathing world. Part of the allure for me, is the fact that I like movies and stories about a post apocalyptic wasteland. There is an old movie from the 70's called "A Boy and his Dog", and Fallout 3 reminded me of that movie a bit. When I saw "The Book of Eli", I said to myself, "They basically ripped off Fallout 3 with this movie". So, I'm a big fan of the setting of the game. I don't mind a game that has a bunch of exploration, without exciting things constantly happening. To me, games like Call of Duty with their non-stop action don't really do it for me. I like action, but there has to be peaks and valleys. There has to be quiet moments and intense moments. To me, Fallout 3 provides the perfect mix of both.

The bottom line is that I keep going back to the fact that Fallout 3 for me is like actually going inside a movie like "A Boy and his Dog" or "Book Of Eli", and living and adventuring within that world. Yes, I wish it wasn't as glitchy, and I wish it had much better character models, but overall I feel blessed to have a game that is so deep and so engrossing. I know it isn't everybodies cup of tea, but I could pretty much play games like Fallout 3 forever and be perfectly satisfied.

G-Boobie
10-22-2011, 02:52 AM
Count me in the Fallout 3 defender camp. I love that game.

I'll agree with God of War 3 for sure, though.

substantial_snake
10-22-2011, 03:16 AM
Eh, a game is only as overrated at the opinion of the user.

I disagree with the detractors to Fallout 3, Black Ops, and Final Fantasy 13. I didn't feel like those games was overrated or that they bad. I have played them all for many many hours now and have gotten way more then 60 dollars of entertainment out of each.

There is not much else to say. If you don't like a game then fine but that doesn't make it overrated just because you had problems with it.

Sunnyvale
10-22-2011, 05:19 AM
Wii Fit
I'm not fat. Honestly!!!

Nebagram
10-22-2011, 06:19 AM
I'll quite happily defend Fallout 3. One of the absolute best games of the last decade, right there.

As for most overrated... pretty much any post-Half Life 2 console FPSes bar Bioshock and anything else by Valve. Into which I'll happily lump the entire CoD, Battlefield and 7th-gen Halo series. I really don't know how many more military shooters we need before the whole of XBL and PSN collapses into one heaving mass of twatwittery.

I'm also not massively keen on the Uncharted games either. I mean, okay, I like them, they're good, but people seem to be behaving like Nathan Drake is the second coming or something. Sorry dudes, I don't get it.

Oh, and Red Dead Redemption. Which is a step back from GTA4. Which was itself a step back from San Andreas. And yet, the people hailing RDR as the best game ever are those who said San Andreas was itself a step back from Vice City...

gepeto
10-22-2011, 08:24 AM
It is amazing how different things appeal to different people. It seemed the masses love portal but some are like meh. I often think of the underrated games. I figure if there is an overated game I don't like it is just not for me and my style. I have never understood the whole gran turismo thing. LOL

I thought Tomb raider underworld was an underrated game. The sense of death around every corner be it suspended up high etc. came through the controller.

Baloo
10-22-2011, 09:05 AM
Halo: Reach has good gameplay? Since when? The multiplayer especially is just complete junk. The only thing that redeems the game is Rocket Race, everything else is a waste of time.

heybtbm
10-22-2011, 10:32 AM
Negativity, negativity, negativity.

The whole concept of "overrated" is so pissy/pouty. If you don't like a game...fine, but the idea that a popular game is actually bad and only you "get it" is so...how do I put this...teenage-drama-queen. I've used the term in the past too, but with age comes wisdom. No game is overrated. There's just games that I like and games that I don't like.

Fallout 3 rocked BTW and Vegas was even better.

portnoyd
10-22-2011, 11:12 AM
Even X Men Origins Wolverine, with how repetitive it is has more variety and is much more fun than God of War 3.

I... agree with kupo?!

MELTING

I'M MELTING

WHAT A WORLD, WHAT A WORLD

LiquidPolicenaut
10-22-2011, 11:34 AM
Geez, so much hate for God of War 3! Even though it wasn't as great as part two, it was still a great game. I won't say any specific FPS is overrrated since I just dislike the whole FPS genre. I will agree with FF13 and Uncharted as being a bit overrated though...

swlovinist
10-22-2011, 11:46 AM
Halo Reach was in my own opinion a great game. Single Player and Multiplayer still played in my house...

Now Halo 3...what a piece of junk. After sinking about 1000 hours of multiplayer in Halo 2, I could not stand the hit detection online of the game. It was a major disappointment and was pissed off about how much hype the game got and what it actually offered.

Johnny_Rock
10-22-2011, 12:12 PM
Negativity, negativity, negativity.

The whole concept of "overrated" is so pissy/pouty. If you don't like a game...fine, but the idea that a popular game is actually bad and only you "get it" is so...how do I put this...teenage-drama-queen. I've used the term in the past too, but with age comes wisdom. No game is overrated. There's just games that I like and games that I don't like.


"Overrated" doesn't require the game to be popular. Overrated doesn't mean "bad" either. It just means given an undue amount of credit for quality or merit. It has nothing to do with subjective taste or fun factor or whatever.

I really don't see how calling a heavily flawed game that received critical acclaim is "pissy" in any way. Shitting on someone for saying they like a game is not the same thing as saying a game shouldn't be called "the best game of the year" by most of the major gaming review sites.

PentiumMMX
10-22-2011, 12:21 PM
I personally found Dragon Age: Origins a bit overrated. I tried it earlier this year, but it really failed to draw me in

eskobar
10-22-2011, 01:02 PM
Kupo, agree with your list except for FALLOUT 3, I don't think you understood the core game ...

Fallout 3 is one of the few RPGs that your decisions are really yours. You HAVE choices and you practice them since the beginning until the end of the game. You can pretty much avoid killing dozens of creatures with your SPEECH and SNEAK skills ...

You can have a very bad karma and steal weapons, caps, stimpaks ... or choose for a more scientific aproach to violencia developing your LOCKPICK/SCIENCE skills to take advantage of the doors that are unlockable with [LOCKPICK] 100 ... you can hack terminals to get help from turrets, unlock doors, terminate creatures ... etc

The game is a bit flat in its locations, but there are surprises and a sense of freedom that few games have.




About FFXIII .... I still don't understand how any person that has played at least ONE rpg can love it. The game has a 20 hour tutorial and is quite simple to play, just a matter of learning when to change your paradigm with the enemy in turn ... and THAT'S IT !. Limited in all senses .... I expected too much from this game.

Ludwig
10-22-2011, 01:08 PM
GTA4 and DNF.
Don't even need to explain, both hyped, both garbage, funny story though:
After i burned 50Eur with GTA4 i started downloading again if i was unsure, that's why i saved myself the 50eur for DNF. Needles to say, even for free was to expensive for it.

Emperor Megas
10-22-2011, 01:32 PM
Negativity, negativity, negativity.

The whole concept of "overrated" is so pissy/pouty. If you don't like a game...fine, but the idea that a popular game is actually bad and only you "get it" is so...how do I put this...teenage-drama-queen. I've used the term in the past too, but with age comes wisdom. No game is overrated. There's just games that I like and games that I don't like.You ever hear that tale of the Emperor's new clothes?

LaughingMAN.S9
10-22-2011, 02:41 PM
borderlands, i dont get the hype behind this game at all, this shit is boring as fuck, its like a stylized verson of rage, just sits there and looks pretty but the entire game world feels lifeless (maybe not as much as rage) all the "quests" if you can even call them that are essentially the same thing over and over again


maybe my score would change if i had played with 3 other real life friends instead of just by myself or with random 12 year old white redneck kids, but this game is a piece of shit to me and my score is not going to change lol, fuck you borderlands


edit: OMG, i just remembered the king of all overrated games, GTA4, good god is that game garbage, from a technical standpoint, yes its a masterpiece, it had basically everything you could ever ask for in a gta game...everything but FUN (and enjoyable music :( )

gta4 got so caught up in trying to be real it forgot its roots, the story isnt all that engaging, the sense of exploration is underwhelming, and the hype around that game was totally undeserved, only a handful of weapons, missions were even more repetive than games prior, music as stated before was garbage all across the board, every station had maybe 1 or 2 songs that were good, story had no sense of humor, i could go on and on, gay tony at least took a step in the right direction, but by then it was too little too late


double edit: assassins creed series's entire existance is overrated

Johnny_Rock
10-22-2011, 02:45 PM
About FFXIII .... I still don't understand how any person that has played at least ONE rpg can love it. The game has a 20 hour tutorial and is quite simple to play, just a matter of learning when to change your paradigm with the enemy in turn ... and THAT'S IT !. Limited in all senses .... I expected too much from this game.

Are there a lot of people who loved XIII? It seems to get about an equal amount of hate/love but it's kind of hard to gauge things like that on the internet.

I thought it was okay, but I played it in chunks over 3-4 months, I was rarely compelled to continue with it more than an hour or two. It had some nice things about it and somewhat innovative things about it but you can say that about pretty much any numbered FF game, it just comes down to how good the execution is.

I'm not sure if I'd call it overrated just due to not many people praising it that highly but there are a lot of legitimate complaints against it.

Ludwig
10-22-2011, 03:29 PM
double edit: assassins creed series's entire existance is overrated

Overrated yes - quite shallow too, but at least the 2. wasn't that bad, still shallow and overrated though.

MarioMania
10-22-2011, 03:37 PM
Every War FPS like Call of Duty

BlastProcessing402
10-22-2011, 04:48 PM
Fallout 3 was the first current gen game I bought (not counting the games that came bundled with my 360, which I haven't touched since the first night I bought it because I got FO3 the next night) and kept my interest so long that it was over a month before I even thought about getting another game. Even after getting other games, it was still the one I went back to for quite some time, and one of the first games in a LONG time to keep my interest up enough to keep playing far beyond the 20hr mark, which seems to be where my interest level wanes a lot of the time.

I figured, "oh hey, Oblivion, Fallout 3 with swords!" and picked up the GOTY edition when I found it cheap at Walmart, but that one just didn't pique my interest nearly as much. I'm not sure I even made it to 20hrs in that one before moving on to something else.

skaar
10-22-2011, 05:14 PM
Yay a bitch thread.

Oobgarm
10-22-2011, 05:19 PM
As far as God of War III goes, you KNEW what you were getting into. the first two are essentially the same game in different locales. Same with the third, only prettier graphics.

My list would be

Black Ops
Fallout *
Batman *

Couldn't get into any of 'em.

G-Boobie
10-22-2011, 06:00 PM
As far as God of War III goes, you KNEW what you were getting into. the first two are essentially the same game in different locales. Same with the third, only prettier graphics.

My list would be

Black Ops
Fallout *
Batman *

Couldn't get into any of 'em.

My issue with God of War 3 had more to do with glitches and a few seriously imbalanced fights than expectations of new gameplay. I fell through the world a few times, which never happened in the first two.

Lucifersam1
10-22-2011, 10:49 PM
I think Fallout 3 rocked. It rocked even more when I recruited Fawkes.

I think that Black Ops was terribly overrated. I hated that game, and feel like I wasted a LOT of time beating it on veteran.

I hope BF3 turns out ok. I was disappointed with the Beta. I think that if they don't fix the multiplayer that this could be one of those overrated fanboy games. BTW, I think that BF2 was great.

Gamevet
10-23-2011, 01:41 AM
Fallout 3 was an amazing game. I found it to be one of the best games of this generation, and New Vegas was even better, IMO.

Ryudo
10-23-2011, 02:27 AM
Every War FPS like Call of Duty

This This This!

BHvrd
10-23-2011, 05:20 AM
Every War FPS like Call of Duty


This This This!


THUNDERCATS!! THUNDERCATS!! THUNDERCATS!! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


P.S. that means I agree :D

SteveSpeeze
10-23-2011, 07:10 AM
Guitar hero series

Lucifersam1
10-23-2011, 07:37 AM
I played New Vegas before I played Fallout 3, and I did not like it. I ended up trying Fallout 3 and loved it. I then went back to New Vegas and still did not really like it that much. So, I guess to me, New Vegas could be one of those overrated games of this generation.


Fallout 3 was an amazing game. I found it to be one of the best games of this generation, and New Vegas was even better, IMO.

Gamevet
10-23-2011, 10:53 AM
I played New Vegas before I played Fallout 3, and I did not like it. I ended up trying Fallout 3 and loved it. I then went back to New Vegas and still did not really like it that much. So, I guess to me, New Vegas could be one of those overrated games of this generation.

I like the open world of New Vegas. Fallout 3 had you going to subway tunnels to get from point to point. It really didn't feel like you could explore everything.

I can see why some would prefer Fallout 3 though, because I've put in nearly 80 hours with New Vegas and have no idea how to end the story. Fallout 3 was more obvious about how to end the game.

buzz_n64
10-23-2011, 12:25 PM
Give the war FPS genre a rest people! This is worse than the fighting game craze of the 90s. The shit all looks the same to me. When will people finally get tired of the war FPS genre? Call of Duty 8, or Battlefield 15?

dystopian
10-23-2011, 12:40 PM
I like the open world of New Vegas. Fallout 3 had you going to subway tunnels to get from point to point. It really didn't feel like you could explore everything.

I can see why some would prefer Fallout 3 though, because I've put in nearly 80 hours with New Vegas and have no idea how to end the story. Fallout 3 was more obvious about how to end the game.

Spend more time with Mr. House or Yes Man.

heybtbm
10-23-2011, 01:00 PM
Give the war FPS genre a rest people! This is worse than the fighting game craze of the 90s. The shit all looks the same to me. When will people finally get tired of the war FPS genre? Call of Duty 8, or Battlefield 15?

The appeal is more "online competitive multiplayer" than "war FPS". Competing online against other gamers will never end. As long as there are video games there will be people shooting other people online.

substantial_snake
10-23-2011, 01:57 PM
Give the war FPS genre a rest people! This is worse than the fighting game craze of the 90s. The shit all looks the same to me. When will people finally get tired of the war FPS genre? Call of Duty 8, or Battlefield 15?

Its not nearly as tiresome as constantly regurgitating the same tired lines about shooters again and again and again.

This isan't necessarily directed just at you but it seems like thats what half of some peoples posts on this site are. Shooters are super popular now and thats where the money is, just as platformers, SHMUPS, and tournament fighters once were and thats just the reality of it. Is it really necessary to post over and over and over again about how X person is just soooooooo tired of the next big shooter? :roll:

Sunnyvale
10-23-2011, 02:25 PM
Give the war FPS genre a rest people! This is worse than the fighting game craze of the 90s. The shit all looks the same to me. When will people finally get tired of the war FPS genre? Call of Duty 8, or Battlefield 15?

I concur, although I do understand the appeal.


The appeal is more "online competitive multiplayer" than "war FPS". Competing online against other gamers will never end. As long as there are video games there will be people shooting other people online.

Seriously, this. This IS the 90's fighting game craze, just now people fight with guns against unseen opponents. But the reason SFII was a smash is the same reason Halo online is a smash.


Its not nearly as tiresome as constantly regurgitating the same tired lines about shooters again and again and again.
Is it really necessary to post over and over and over again about how X person is just soooooooo tired of the next big shooter? :roll:

On a thread about overated modern video games, not necessary, but what exactly do you expect? This isn't the 'All games are different but equal, Kumbaya' thread. :|

Gamevet
10-23-2011, 02:29 PM
Spend more time with Mr. House or Yes Man.

I've already finished the House Always Wins. I could also kill Yes Man I suppose.

Nebagram
10-23-2011, 05:47 PM
The appeal is more "online competitive multiplayer" than "war FPS". Competing online against other gamers will never end. As long as there are video games there will be people shooting other people online.

If this were really true more people would be making L4D or Painkiller knock-offs, experimenting a bit with the genre. Though I suppose that could simply be down to laziness on the part of the developers or an unwillingness to take risks on the part of the publishers.

Nebagram
10-23-2011, 05:47 PM
damned 500 errors.

Zama
10-23-2011, 06:17 PM
There are many games but I going for Duke Nukem Forever since it was hype for a good long time :deadhorse:

Johnny_Rock
10-23-2011, 06:21 PM
If this were really true more people would be making L4D or Painkiller knock-offs

Um... why? Painkiller is an older feeling game, why knock off something that's been done so many times before? L4D is a cooperative game, not a competitive one.

Lady Jaye
10-23-2011, 06:42 PM
Kameo. I expected a good action game, and found out that its gameplay makes it hard to enjoy. Thought it may have been just me, but I lent the game to a friend of mine and he agreed with my opinion.

Yet, if you do a search on metacritic, you'll find that the game's average score is 79%. Gotta wonder if reviewers who rated Kameo highly played the same game I did...

Johnny_Rock
10-23-2011, 06:55 PM
Kameo. I expected a good action game, and found out that its gameplay makes it hard to enjoy. Thought it may have been just me, but I lent the game to a friend of mine and he agreed with my opinion.

Yet, if you do a search on metacritic, you'll find that the game's average score is 79%. Gotta wonder if reviewers who rated Kameo highly played the same game I did...

I think it's because it was a hyped up launch title. Perfect Dark: Zero has an 84% I guess I'd put PDZ as overrated too based on just metacritic.

To quote the GamesCritics blurb. "There's nothing "next gen" about this title other than the graphics and sound. The gameplay would barely pass as mediocre on the last generation of consoles."

The 1 2 P
10-23-2011, 07:22 PM
Give the war FPS genre a rest people! This is worse than the fighting game craze of the 90s. The shit all looks the same to me. When will people finally get tired of the war FPS genre? Call of Duty 8, or Battlefield 15?

This is how I always felt about World War II shooters. I never got their appeal and always wondered why they made so many each and every year. As for modern war shooters, the reason why has already been answered. MW was the only one I've been playing the last few years but as a fps fan I need to atleast give BF3 a try.

For me I would have to say Burnout Paradise was overrated. Coming from Burnout 3(the greatest racing game ever) and Burnout Revenge I just wasn't into the open world of BP. One of these days I'll give it another try but I definitely prefer the older set up of races and crash challenges.

Baloo
10-23-2011, 07:33 PM
They'll stop making first person shooters when the market bottoms out on them like what happened to fighting games in the late 90s and 2000s.

shopkins
10-23-2011, 10:30 PM
Negativity, negativity, negativity.

The whole concept of "overrated" is so pissy/pouty. If you don't like a game...fine, but the idea that a popular game is actually bad and only you "get it" is so...how do I put this...teenage-drama-queen. I've used the term in the past too, but with age comes wisdom. No game is overrated. There's just games that I like and games that I don't like.

Fallout 3 rocked BTW and Vegas was even better.

I agree with you. It is both egotistical and immature for someone to tell people they're *enjoying the thing they enjoy too much,* while they on the other hand are a superior creature who knows the true objective worth of things. What impulse drives someone to see people enjoying something and tell them they're wrong and should stop?


I've already finished the House Always Wins. I could also kill Yes Man I suppose.

If you want to finish their storylines, you're supposed to do quests for them, not murder them.

Sunnyvale
10-23-2011, 11:04 PM
I agree with you. It is both egotistical and immature for someone to tell people they're *enjoying the thing they enjoy too much,* while they on the other hand are a superior creature who knows the true objective worth of things. What impulse drives someone to see people enjoying something and tell them they're wrong and should stop?


Nobody here is saying 'you enjoy fps, yer wrong, I'm right'. I fail to see how people can come to a thread that is all about bashing popular games and get defensive. No one said stop playing, no one is saying that only noobs play fps...
They are, um, how does one say...
Answering the OP.