EGM mag now bi-monthly/Gamepro now quarterly [Archive]

misfits859

11-04-2011, 07:39 AM

what i love about print is its a snapshot of a moment in time. i can look through any of my old game magazines and see how things were at that period. same could be said of websites, but they go offline. alot of my old sites are no longer around.

Agree 100%. If you could see my library of books and magazines you would agree that I'm on the side of the printing press. But, with the majority of folks these days, the internet is just far simpler, more convenient and cheaper than print.

rolenta

11-04-2011, 08:54 AM

And yet the British magazines, Games TM, Edge, and Retro Gamer are still going strong without sacrificing any quality.

TonyTheTiger

11-04-2011, 10:29 AM

If you're going to read print magazines you just can't walk in looking for "new" information. Even 15 years ago the web was robust enough that by the time you got the issue you could have found whatever information a couple weeks prior. What the magazines offer is the spin. The editorialized take on the goings on can be worthwhile. The reviews can be interesting. And once in a blue moon, a random review can turn you on to a game that may not have been on your radar.

If you look at print mags from a purely utilitarian "just the facts, ma'am" angle then, yeah, they're a waste of money. But they offer a lot more than that to people who are looking for something more.

InsaneDavid

11-04-2011, 10:46 AM

I was looking at the game magazines in a local store and was thinking about buying one. I then realized that I would be paying $7 for information that was a couple months old and that I could get better and more current information for free on-line.

That $10 for Retro Gamer is starting to look more and more like a bargain every day.

11-04-2011, 11:56 AM

what i love about print is its a snapshot of a moment in time. I can look through any of my old game magazines and see how things were at that period. Same could be said of websites, but they go offline. Alot of my old sites are no longer around.

amen!!

portnoyd

11-04-2011, 12:51 PM

and to top it off, i hear Nintendo Power is not doing so well either.

God, please say NP is petering out. Trying to stay caught up them has been a pain in the butt for us.

TonyTheTiger

11-04-2011, 01:10 PM

what i love about print is its a snapshot of a moment in time. i can look through any of my old game magazines and see how things were at that period. same could be said of websites, but they go offline. alot of my old sites are no longer around.

I have to agree with this, too. Once in a while I'll pull out a Game Informer circa 1996 or so and the atmosphere of the entire thing pulls you back into that period. It's not just one feature but the collective (the layout, the writing, the commentary, the screenshots, etc.) that as a whole induces a slew of memories that relate to that snapshot. When reading an article about the "Nintendo Ultra 64" you're getting more than just outdated info. You're actually experiencing that moment of what it was like when this shit was new.

kupomogli

11-04-2011, 01:17 PM

and to top it off, i hear Nintendo Power is not doing so well either.

Does Nintendo Power just rehash the same content each magazine release? I'd assume it's difficult when you're exclusive to consoles that haven't had barely any decent game announcements or releases in the last several months. Nintendo Power should start being released quarterly.

Did they make a new section dedicated to shovelware? Is that half of the magazine? :P

The Shawn

11-04-2011, 01:29 PM

To be honest I haven't seen a Gamepro magazine on a shelf at the local stores in years. I assumed they bellied up a long time ago.

I never look for game mags at the bookstore anymore so possibly they still carry them. I used to buy them at walmart or Rite-Aid.

Ryudo

11-04-2011, 01:48 PM

I still have every mage I subbed from the 90's up til 2009. EGM,Gamefan,NP,Gamepro,Pocket Gamer,Tips n Tricks,EGM2,Gamenow,Gamers Republic,Game Informer and a few more. I miss gaming mags. It wasn;t just the info it was also just easier to get hyped when you had little info just what you got in print. So it creates many memories. I don;t have any memories from hype with the internet. My fave is following the hype of this Project Katana & Project Berkley for a couple years by Mags alone. Ended up as Dreamcast & Shenmue

Aussie2B

11-04-2011, 02:33 PM

Interesting. Times are tough, but a mag can survive well enough with the right business strategy and the right content. Maybe this is what those mags need. Take anime news magazines, for example. Every single one of them in the US has gone under except for Otaku USA. Because they managed to hang on, they now have the full pie of that audience, and they're released every other month so they're not stretching themselves too thin. They have a lot of different kinds of content, not just breaking news, and from my vantage point as a recent addition to the staff, they appear to be having good success.

BlastProcessing402

11-04-2011, 04:32 PM

If it's bimonthly, then shouldn't they rename it EGB? :D

The 1 2 P

11-04-2011, 05:22 PM

This is why I didn't renew my subscription to EGM after the first year, I knew it was only a matter of time before they went under again(they won't be around much longer). As for Gamepro, my subscription was good until 2012 or 2013 and instead of continuing to fill it with the new quarterly issues they started sending me some PC magazine which I have no interest in at all.

substantial_snake

11-04-2011, 05:39 PM

I feel kinda sorry for print media these days, unless you cater to a very niche market it seems as if you are doomed to fail. The more they cut content for intrusive addspace to make up for lost revenue, the less interest I have in the magazine. I really like having a physical item to hold and flip through but not when I keep running into 6 page "infoarticles".

pixelsnpolygons

11-04-2011, 05:41 PM

what i love about print is its a snapshot of a moment in time. i can look through any of my old game magazines and see how things were at that period. same could be said of websites, but they go offline. alot of my old sites are no longer around.

That's what I like too. My wife can't understand why I collect old magazines. Her belief is once it has been read, toss it - it's old news. I agree, but that's why I like to collect them - looking back on a snapshot in time.

And looking at website content from way back isn't the same thing, if it's even still online at all. For one, the content is usually just displayed on the current site theme - whereas magazines literally represent an era right down to the ads. If you read a review on GameSpot for an N64 game, it's not quite the blast from the past as reading one in GamePro.

Anyway, I stopped getting magazines mostly because they kinda seemed to fizzle away. I used to have subscriptions to most, but I'd mainly just been collecting most of them for years. A lot are still shrink wrapped. Magazines can't keep up with the speed of the internet but there's certainly still a market if they find the right angle.

Also, I would buy a yearly re-cap magazine/book showcasing the best and worst of the year.

SpaceHarrier

11-04-2011, 07:31 PM

I'll miss Nintendo Power. I've mostly been buying them for the retrospective bits, anyhow. I don't care for the new EGM, and I'm not surprised they are facing difficult times already.

Gamefan.. I can't even find it. The website is rarely updated and there seems to be completely random periods of months between published magazines, according to info on the website.

CelticJobber

11-05-2011, 05:12 AM

I think there's more to the lagging sales of gaming mags than just "it's on the internet. so why bother?". As others mentioned, the editorial content used to be so much better. I love magazines, but at this point the only ones I read are Nintendo Power and Playstation Mag.

The new EGM was quite a disappointment with it's stiff, dry, and boring articles (with too much PC gaming and FPS coverage, which I have no interest in) and it's lacking most of the humor and insight they used to have.

The new EGM also has horrible distribution. I have to go to a Target 35 miles away to buy it, and even they don't have it lately.

c0ldb33r

11-05-2011, 09:40 AM

Soon the only printed gaming magazines will be the specialty ones. The ones with a worldwide fan base that view it as a collectors item. Retro gamer is the best example of this.

When RG goes belly up (again), we're all doomed.

Soon you'll only see small gaming sections in men's magazines, and those will peter out soon replaced by digital counterparts. In the meantime, any lady gamers who want print game coverage will need to flip through porn to get it (which is kind of awesome)

BlastProcessing402

11-05-2011, 07:51 PM

I haven't bought any magazines in ages, just couldn't afford them anymore, and it was hard to justify with so many online sources now.

I had a free EGM subscription for a while, so I kept up with them, but then they shut down, and when they came back they didn't reinstate old subscriptions. :bawling: I did grab the first relaunch issue off the stands, but it didn't terribly impress me anyway.

Retro Gamer was great, one of the few I really wish I could've kept buying, but I always wished there was an American equivalent. All those articles about stuff on computers that were popular in jolly old England but all but non-existent here got old after a while. Plus, being an import, it was one of the most expensive mags I was buying.

slapdash

11-05-2011, 10:56 PM

As for Gamepro, my subscription was good until 2012 or 2013 and instead of continuing to fill it with the new quarterly issues they started sending me some PC magazine which I have no interest in at all.

It's worse than that; they're refusing to send refunds instead of further issues. You can, apparently, at least get Mac World instead of PC World, or digital versions instead of print versions, if you ask. But I'm totally angry that they're still going to PUBLISH the magazine, just not send it to subscribers.

Gamefan.. I can't even find it.

I just saw issue 06 at a Barnes & Noble; as I understand it, not all BNs carry it, but if you have any near you, it might be worth a call/visit.

The website is rarely updated and there seems to be completely random periods of months between published magazines, according to info on the website.

That is true. Also, do not order back issues through the site unless you want to pay $10 postage & handling. Yikes.

They are on Facebook though, so you could always Like them and ask about where to find the next issue when it comes out (sounds like they ARE working on it, though slowly).

retroman

11-05-2011, 11:34 PM

I still get Game Informer, and pick up Nintendo Power every now and then..got a few of the new EGM, and dont like it..I use to love the old EGM, and i also thought GamePro went bye bye since i have not seen it in stores for a while now.

The 1 2 P

11-06-2011, 02:43 AM

It's worse than that; they're refusing to send refunds instead of further issues. You can, apparently, at least get Mac World instead of PC World, or digital versions instead of print versions, if you ask. But I'm totally angry that they're still going to PUBLISH the magazine, just not send it to subscribers.

When I got the first issue of PC World there was a note saying this is how the remainder of my subscription would be filled and if I had any questions I should write them. "Write" as in a post office address. There was no email address or phone number to contact them. Really? This is 2011 where everything is pretty much online and if I have questions yall want me to write you a pen and paper letter???

Needless to say I didn't take them up on that offer and instead emailed my complaint directly to PC World's website. I asked for either a refund or for my subscription to be filled with the new quarterly issues and they told me that neither of those were possible. They said I could either get PC World or some other PC magazine. And this is why I was always so hessitant about getting subscriptions.

And for those looking for Gamefan, don't. They use to publish Play magazine. And how did they reward subscribers like me? They abruptly canceled our subscriptions with no reason given at all, refused to give any of us a refund and also refused to fill the remainder of our subscriptions with the new magazine. I really should report their ass to the Better Business Bureau because I'm sure that shit isn't legal.

c0ldb33r

11-06-2011, 09:44 AM

... abruptly canceled our subscriptions with no reason given at all, refused to give any of us a refund and also refused to fill the remainder of our subscriptions with the new magazine. I really should report their ass to the Better Business Bureau because I'm sure that shit isn't legal.
Really? That's terrible. That's basically theft. At the very least I'd call the BBB. Alternatively I'd call them daily until they refunded your money.

duffmanth

11-06-2011, 10:53 AM

its so sad that two existing mags from my childhood are now shells of their former selves. and to top it off, i hear Nintendo Power is not doing so well either.

has anyone seen the new Gamefan mag? i rather like the way that mags going, i hope it does well.

I have no interest in paying $7 or $8 for a magazine when I can read anything online for free.

Skullkid

11-06-2011, 01:38 PM

Dave Halverson said on Facebook that it's impossible to go monthly now. Nobody wants to advertise, which is how mags in american have survived. The UK runs a different business model, where they still make money off of news stand purchases. I still love magazines. I honestly don't care for any of the gaming websites. I read them but I really don't feel connected like I do to magazines. In a way Retro Gamer is the best, because it will never feel outdated. I do agree with the poster that said the focus on old British computers hurts that mag for us americans.

c0ldb33r

11-06-2011, 02:54 PM

In a way Retro Gamer is the best, because it will never feel outdated. I do agree with the poster that said the focus on old British computers hurts that mag for us americans.
I disagree. I understand why someone might find that off-putting, but to me that's part of what makes it more interesting. It's telling me about a whole world that I didn't know.

I had no idea that the NES was a bomb in the UK, or that there were so many micro computers, etc... I think it's great :)

Tupin

11-06-2011, 03:51 PM

Plus, there's only so many times you can read the same NES articles over and over again. I find reading about these computers interesting compared to the same systems covered issue after issue.

I just wish Barnes and Noble got every issue, not every other one.

Skullkid

11-06-2011, 04:15 PM

I understand what you both are saying. But when I read about old games, I like to hunt them down and play them. Very hard to do with old british computers simce I'm not a fan of emulation. I do agree that the history is pretty interesting.

JSoup

11-06-2011, 04:52 PM

Is anyone else having issues receiving Game Informer in the mail? I don't get one for three months, then suddenly get four in the mail all at the same time. It's been like that for two years. :/

I was looking at the game magazines in a local store and was thinking about buying one. I then realized that I would be paying $7 for information that was a couple months old and that I could get better and more current information for free on-line.

That was my thinking when I say the $10 for a years subscription to Nintendo Power deal last year. Then I realized that I was basically playing for a years worth of decent bathroom reading and jumped for it.

I was going to jump for EGM when I found it was printing again, but, and this was brought up in the EGM thread, the book has just become boring.

Tupin

11-06-2011, 04:58 PM

It's worth tracking down British computers even if you live in America. They are cool to have and are supported widely with tons of software. Most have external supplies and require DC power, which is the same everywhere. Pretty much every modern smaller sized LCD TV works in NTSC and PAL as well, since many can double as monitors.

Anyway, the only game magazines I get are Nintendo Power and Retro Gamer. Nintendo Power oddly enough gets a lot of exclusive news, I've heard about a few games this generation first in Nintendo Power.

What is Gamepro's focus now? Obviously not news if it comes out four times a year. I get a magazine that comes out quarterly, and it is at least 200 pages. How big are the new issues?

TheGam3r

11-06-2011, 05:14 PM

Nintendo Power is my all-time favorite mag even though i haven't bought an issue since April of this year :s
It's gonna be a sad day when NP is no more :'( i remember 6 years ago, the top 200 games of all time countdown, betting if SSBM was going to be no 1.

Aussie2B

11-06-2011, 06:04 PM

I remember the Top 100 games in issue #100 in 1997. That was probably the last time they did something cool, haha.

Kitsune Sniper

11-30-2011, 06:40 PM

And Gamepro.com is dead.

Thank you for your loyalty, support, and participation in the GamePro.com community. At noon on December 5, 2011, the U.S. version of GamePro online will shut down as an independent site. GamePro will become part of PCWorld.com (http://www.pcworld.com/gamepro) offering gaming news, reviews, and how-tos from the PCWorld team. Thank you to the entire GamePro staff for their hard work and dedication.

RCM

11-30-2011, 07:08 PM

GameSetWatch announced it was "ending" today too.

Bojay1997

11-30-2011, 07:09 PM

Sadly, it sounds like Future Publishing which does all three of the official US magazines is looking to get out of physical publishing of games magazines as well, at least in the US market. Soon the only options may be the UK magazines for physical print media.

Aussie2B

11-30-2011, 07:59 PM

Yeah? That would definitely be the end of an era if Nintendo Power ceases production. Maybe Nintendo of America would be up for taking it back?

Tupin

11-30-2011, 08:53 PM

Nintendo wouldn't take it back, they gave it up because their target audience when they gave it up was different than the people who would buy the magazine.

GamePro got bad near the end. Seanbaby and the humor of EGM were good, but it tried to much to cover news.

Trying to report gaming news in a magazine is well past being reasonable. Then again, I still hear about some games for the first time when I get Nintendo Power. Wouldn't be surprised if it went away though, unfortunately. Even after Future took over it still remained pretty good.

Retro Gamer is sustainable, though it is a niche market. Are magazine sales higher in Britain or something?

Gamevet

11-30-2011, 11:19 PM

Retro Gamer is sustainable, though it is a niche market. Are magazine sales higher in Britain or something?

They at least have better writing, and the humor that is in those mags isn't childish crap like we have in North American gaming mags.

Every british gaming publication I've read has been top notch, and the quality never seems to deminish, like it did with magazines like Gamepro and EGM. What gaming magazines need to have to stay interesting/viable, is interviews within the industry, articles that get behind the gaming scenes and talk about the companies creating those games. Just look at an issue of Edge, where you'll see all kinds of interesting content that isn't just a bunch of babble about the next big game.

boatofcar

11-30-2011, 11:53 PM

They at least have better writing, and the humor that is in those mags isn't childish crap like we have in North American gaming mags.

Every british gaming publication I've read has been top notch, and the quality never seems to deminish, like it did with magazines like Gamepro and EGM. What gaming magazines need to have to stay interesting/viable, is interviews within the industry, articles that get behind the gaming scenes and talk about the companies creating those games. Just look at an issue of Edge, where you'll see all kinds of interesting content that isn't just a bunch of babble about the next big game.

Not to mention the physical characteristics of British magazines are of a much higher quality. Fewer ads and a much higher quality of paper.

Daniel Thomas

12-01-2011, 12:17 AM

Stewart Campbell recently wrote an article on the sorry state of videogame magazines. Somewhere near the end of the year 2000, sales just fell off a cliff. Today, sales are practically nonexistent, and the mags have long become entire dependent on advertisers (which is never good for editorial content).

The sad truth is that most people only ever wanted two things from a game mag: 1) what's coming out soon, and 2) cheat codes. That's it. And the internet has long since taken both away, so there's no real reason for the prozines to exist anymore.

From my vantage point, the only prozines that ever mattered were early EGM, VG&CE, Electronic Games, and Next Gen. I also really loved the Official Dreamcast Magazine. And the fanzines, of course, were always the best. We alumni should put together a special fanzine issue when all the prozines finally bow out, and take a victory lap. We Win! :P

Aussie2B

12-01-2011, 01:23 AM

I'm fully confident that gaming magazines will come back. This is the thinning out of the herd. Survival of the fittest, you know? Any magazine that survives or any start-up will have to figure what they need to do to make it work and assess their identity. Maybe gamers don't realize it right now, but if all the pro mags were to disappear, I'm positive that there would be demand for game magazines. Maybe then gamers will actually be able to articulate what they want in a magazine, rather than these old magazines fumbling with the same approach they've had since back before the internet was in every home. People like reading magazines, it's not the same as reading something online, or reading a book, newspaper, or any other reading experience. It's unique. Maybe it'll have to go digital-only, who knows, but the demand will be there. There are A LOT of hobby magazines out there, and I'm sure with any hobby you can go online for the latest, breaking news. So what are those other hobby magazines doing? And how can video game hobby magazines exist without focusing on news?

The 1 2 P

12-01-2011, 02:52 AM

I'm not surprised considering how bad Gamepro has gotten over the last few years. Them going quarterly was the final clue this was going to happen. It sucks because I have won three of their contest over the last several months and that never happens anywhere for me. But I guess their online community was getting so small that it made it that much easier to enter and win prizes.

Right now the only three magazines that I have subscriptions to are @ Gamer(owned by Best Buy), Game Informer(owned by Gamestop) and OXM(owned by Future). I suppose all three could go at anytime but I have faith that they will each stick around for atleast another year or so. I'll always have a soft spot for collecting game mags. But the one good thing that has come out of EGM, Gamepro, and Play going out of business is that I don't run out of space as fast as I use to.

Edmond Dantes

12-01-2011, 03:29 AM

what i love about print is its a snapshot of a moment in time. i can look through any of my old game magazines and see how things were at that period. same could be said of websites, but they go offline. alot of my old sites are no longer around.

And on top of that, websites change--as any (former) Hotmail user usually learns the hard way. Once they go through one crappy redesign, they're no longer the site you loved.

A printed magazine, at least, is only either gonna stay as-is or get destroyed, not mutate.

As for the topic, see my comment in the "Gamepro ceasing publication" topic.

mr_nihilism

12-01-2011, 11:25 AM

They at least have better writing, and the humor that is in those mags isn't childish crap like we have in North American gaming mags.

Every british gaming publication I've read has been top notch, and the quality never seems to deminish, like it did with magazines like Gamepro and EGM. What gaming magazines need to have to stay interesting/viable, is interviews within the industry, articles that get behind the gaming scenes and talk about the companies creating those games. Just look at an issue of Edge, where you'll see all kinds of interesting content that isn't just a bunch of babble about the next big game.

Something tells me that the mainstream masses aren't going to purchase a gaming magazine for insider interviews. I could be wrong of course, but I dunno. Even I don't care about half the interviews I come across.

Orion Pimpdaddy

12-01-2011, 11:40 AM

I agree with what some of the older posts said, gaming mags are a doorway to the past. EGM has always been a favorite of mine, so I collected a complete set. This year, I read through every single one of them. It took forever, but I was able to experience about 20 years worth of gaming information within a year. It's like having a museum in my closet.

Peonpiate

12-01-2011, 01:48 PM

Imo EGM was great up until 98-99 [man do I feel old now ], the original crew that ran EGM [sendai] were great writers and their articles were fun to read. You could feel the interest that they had for games in their articles. It was genuine and being a fellow gamer, that helped me to trust their reviews and system choices. Expanding on that - Its funny, reading sites like Atari-age, alot of folks there hate EGM since they bashed the Jaguar so much back at its release...But in truth, the system was bad compared to the SNES/Genesis on a game quality level, hence the bashing. And thats why they were great at that time.

Fast forward to Ziff Davis buying them out and replacing their crew with high school kids, and the quality nose dived [imo, Dan hsu and Crispin boyer were terrible]. 2000 onwards I never really read their mag again, and to be frank im not surprised they have had troubles since then. One way or the other the internet was going to gut them but I think their demise came sooner than it would have had Sendai not out to ZD.

As far as Gamepro goes, they always had their loyal readers, and they apparently still have enough to keep going as a quarterly for now.

The only magazine I really hated to see fold was Next Generation. That magazine, for about 3/4ths of its life was AAA quality, from the interviews to the system comparisons, down to the "techy" articles talking about new internet tech coming up. Their closure sucked, and in return I received PC Accelerator magazine for a few months before that closed to [and that was a rubbish mag overall, every other word was "boobies" or "ass"].

I felt cheated at the time but what can you do.

The Coop

12-01-2011, 06:41 PM

I have a question...

Living out in B.F.E., I have only a few stores that carry EGM, which are Walmart, Target and a grocery store. Well, the grocery store stopped carrying it, Walmart is getting an exclusive mag from the makers of EGM (will they carry a competing mag like EGM?), and since EGM has gone bimonthly, when it shows up on store shelves is anyone's guess.

I picked up issue #252 (Max Payne 3 cover) in November, and I'm wondering... has anyone seen #253 yet? I ask because their digital mag hasn't been updated for a couple of weeks or so, and with it going bimonthly last month, I'm wondering what's going on with the magazine.

The 1 2 P

12-01-2011, 07:16 PM

I picked up issue #252 (Max Payne 3 cover) in November, and I'm wondering... has anyone seen #253 yet? I ask because their digital mag hasn't been updated for a couple of weeks or so, and with it going bimonthly last month, I'm wondering what's going on with the magazine.

I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of time before they completely go under as well. I was very surprised they got thru their entire first year after the relaunch but there was no way I was going to resubscribe with the current climate of video game mags being what it is. And issue 252 has been the last one I've seen on shelves too.

Kid Fenris

12-01-2011, 08:15 PM

Imo EGM was great up until 98-99 [man do I feel old now ], the original crew that ran EGM [sendai] were great writers and their articles were fun to read.

Fast forward to Ziff Davis buying them out and replacing their crew with high school kids, and the quality nose dived

What you described is, in fact, the exact opposite of what really happened. The original Sendai-run EGM was written mostly by people fresh out of high school, and it showed. The Ziff-Davis version of EGM actually employed writers with college degrees and journalism experience.

This article sheds a lot of light on the whole story.

http://blog.radd.tv/2011/01/my-time-at-sendai-former-egm-editor.html

BlastProcessing402

12-01-2011, 08:22 PM

I'm fully confident that gaming magazines will come back. This is the thinning out of the herd.

Thinning out of the herd? The herd's already been thinned way down over the last decade, this is the death knell.

Time was, you could buy 3-4 game magazines a week (including PC game mags) and never run out of new mags to buy. By the time I quit buying in 2008, it was already becoming quite an anemic field, and now it's downright sad.

Peonpiate

12-02-2011, 11:31 AM

What you described is, in fact, the exact opposite of what really happened. The original Sendai-run EGM was written mostly by people fresh out of high school, and it showed. The Ziff-Davis version of EGM actually employed writers with college degrees and journalism experience.

This article sheds a lot of light on the whole story.

http://blog.radd.tv/2011/01/my-time-at-sendai-former-egm-editor.html

Well i stand corrected, I still preferred the writing style of the Sendai crew it seemed that they wrote better articles. Course its all opinion.

Gameguy

12-02-2011, 09:32 PM

The Coop has awesome signatures. That is all.

slapdash

12-04-2011, 12:22 AM

We [fanzine] alumni should put together a special fanzine issue when all the prozines finally bow out, and take a victory lap. We Win! :P

What, like "Fandom is Dead"? You know, I still have the artwork I was going to use for my cover in that collaboration...

has anyone seen [EGM] #253 yet?

Nope, not yet, but since that would be the Jan/Feb issue, I wouldn't expect it until maybe mid-January.

How long has the last GamePro been out in stores? I've only looked for it once so far and had no luck, but I fear I may be starting late, since it was a November issue.

And any sign of GameFan #7 out there yet?