Xboxs new interface sucks

[Collector_Gaming]

And....... Begin rant!

[Dobie]

I generally dislike it. I like that they finally brought the snappy shoulder button navigation back. That's... about it. The most annoying thing they did was switch "x" and "y" to eject the disc. WTF? WHY? Oh, and they did the same thing to the Netflix app. It used to be "x" to add something to your queue and now its "y," while "x" DELETES it. Seriously. Rage mode.

You can set beacons, but then you can only see the ones your friends set if you click on the specific game in the menu. So my friend could want to play BF3, set a beacon, because its better than spamming his friend's list, but I don't SEE the beacon, because I'm playing Halo. I LOVE the beacon idea. Just make it easier to see them.

Cloud storage!? GREAT! I can finally play the same game on my 2nd Xbox downstairs if the kiddos are watching Dora the Explorer on my main console. This is an awesome additi... wait... I still have to recover my gamertag? Let me put my GAMERTAG in the cloud, and use it on 2 or 3 consoles without having to recover it. Kind of like Steam does. THEN cloud storage is useful. Otherwise 512 mb is pretty pointless when I have 80 gb left on the HDD.

They buried the useful info like friends lists and achievements in favor of more advertising space. Even arcade games are buried. You know, the stuff I PAID for.

Oh, and indie games are pretty much non-existent in any form. How's that for support, indie developers? Oh, you sunk money into sdks and memberships and crap? Too bad. MS doesn't care, because fuck you.

Obviously, they optimized the dashboard for their Kinect camera... which I sold because of the lousy integration and games. So I suppose they remedied that, but too late.

Not to sound like a cranky old man, which I'm sure I do by this point, but I want the old blades back.

How's that for a rant? Did I miss anything? LOL

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I hear that they got rid of Netflix chat parties.

Boo! No more make your own MST3K :(

[Collector_Gaming]

First off they make the navigation a pain the ass compared to before. Just looks like a complete cluster fuck.
It might be more user friendly with the kinect but not everyone owns one. And in the case of some friends who live in apartments with small rooms they dont have the proper room to utilize one so meaning impossiable to have it.
Third off they screwed the game menus up. You want to search for arcade games seperate from other games? Too bad. And yes they basically gave the indie game people the royal fuck you.
And the most amusing part
The reason why you buy a xbox in the first place is to play games....
The icon you hit to start your game up is on the main cluster fuck menu. And get this..... Its a small icon on the upper right corner while big icon in friggin middle is advertisment bs i dont care about!!!!

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/131/319047856_dbf1ef3e92.jpg
Come on microsoft... Pull your head out of your ass

[Nebagram]

It's clearly designed to be more user-friendly to people with kinect at the expense of everyone else. Thing is, though... it works really well with kinect, especially the voice search. I had a play around with it, and aside from a few glaring errors ('The Fellowship of Foam Finger' in place of 'fellowship of the Ring' and 'Sierra McCormick' in place of 'CM Punk' being my faves) it does work. Using voice controls to switch the Xbox off is cool all by itself (though tbf I can't remember whether or not this was possible before).

What I'm most pissed about is that the marketplace has been all buggered about. Was it really too difficult to leave the categories the way they were?

[kupomogli]

The original interface was the best. I think they should go back to that. I don't know about this one but the second one sucked for the time that I used it.

[kedawa]

That sounds horrible. I don't intend to update my 360 until I absolutely have to, so I'm in 'wait and see' mode.

How is it when not connected to XBL? I would imagine it's a little more tolerable without all the ads and extraneous services, no?

[RCM]

I don't have issues with it and it's fun to navigate with kinect. Too bad the best thing to do on kinect right now is navigate the 360 dash...

[Yago]

Oh yeah, switching the buttons ticked me off. Every time I want to eject a game I end up playing it again. Using my finger on the front of the xbox is far more efficient now. Why would you do that? Who thought that that was a good idea? That's like taking your car in for service and getting it back with the steering wheel on the right side instead of the left. Idiots... And why change the navigation, it was just fine the way it was. It's like Hollywood trying to remake a movie classic and only end up making it far worse. Don't fix what isn't broken.

As with anything with time I'm sure I'll get used to it but with the system as old as it is and near the end of it's lifespan in another year or 2, why mess with it.

[The Shawn]

Meh. So you have to push a few different buttons, big deal.

I do agree that the whole beacon Idea should have been configured differently, in a way that you would actually know who wanted to play what without having to view the actual persons avatar.

As a side note, anyone else get a kick out of the WarCraft/Chuck Norris add?

[Johnny_Rock]

Still better than Youtube's new layout.

[misfits859]

I like the one it replaced way better. Maybe I was just used to it. No big deal; at least Skyrim still works! :vamp:

[Lerxstnj]

Do I have to use Bing to find my games now?

@_@

So the Kinect users may benefit, the windows phone users may benefit, the rest of us just have to deal with it for their sake.

[E Nice]

As a side note, anyone else get a kick out of the WarCraft/Chuck Norris add?

That was about the only thing I liked seeing after the change. Well, that and it seems they're working on getting a YouTube app.



I generally dislike it. I like that they finally brought the snappy shoulder button navigation back. That's... about it. ................ Not to sound like a cranky old man, which I'm sure I do by this point, but I want the old blades back.

Hear, hear.

[Aussie2B]

Hah, and here I thought I was using the latest interface when Otomedius Excellent forced me to update. How long was that one in effect? My 360 is packed away in the closet more often than not, so just about every time I decide to pull it out I have to update. Maybe by the time I'm forced to update again I can skip right past this interface that everyone hates. :P

[heybtbm]

Do I have to use Bing to find my games now?

The truth isn't that far off. Your XBLA/Xbox Originals/Downloadable 360 title game catalog now consists of 5-6 covers onscreen at one time. If you want to play a game that is further down the alphabet, good luck. It'll take several seconds while the dashboard loads the next 6 covers, then the next 6 covers, and on and on. I have 70+ XBLA games. I don't think I have the patience to make it to Zuma.

Totally mystified by that one.

Other than that it looks sharp and loads content in a flash (game catalog non-withstanding). The older dashboard had one hell of a wait between sections or while accessing achievements, played games, friend avatars, etc. Those waits are now gone. A net improvement IMO.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Hmm.

I spent some time with it tonight and I think it's pretty okay, in fact, I think I like it better than the last iteration of "New XBOX Experience" or whatever they call these layouts.

Once you figure out the "sorting" options on each page it's not a chore to navigate through stuff, though, as mentioned in other posts, I'm not sure why they seem to insist on your game collection being full-screen cards ... for those of us with huge XBLA collections it does get a bit tedious scrolling through from A to Z in a "list all" setup.

[retroman]

Its not bad, i like the older one better, but as long as i can play Goldeneye Reloaded i dont care either way.

[The 1 2 P]

Sucks? Thats probably being a little too kind. I've only been gaming on the 360 since 2009 but these updates are annoying. Not updates by themselves but these complete overhauls. I prefer the last version. I know that eventually we will all get use to this one and may even learn to like it a little, but by that time they will be rolling out another complete overhaul.

Navigating with Kinect is pretty intuitive but I honestly use my controller more. One of the best uses for Kinect is the Bing searchs. It's almost like having a voice-activated google search engine built right into your console.....except for the fact that Bing isn't nearly as good as google.

[Robocop2]

I like it better than NXE but that's not saying much. I do still miss the original dash quite a bit though. And instill hate avatars

[YoshiM]

Functionality wise it's ok. Just as much as a slight pain as the last update. I dont know what's up for those who have problems finding the indie stuff but I found them right away.

Like others, I too liked the blades.

[The Dord]

Honestly, I'm just waiting for the YouTube app.

[dgdgagdae]

I don't mind this update, compared to what we had in the past. I agree that it takes a long time to sort through lists of games. The option to list them instead of seeing them in coverflow would be better.

It seems there are fewer advertisements this time around. Either that, or they're just not as glaring.

My biggest issue is that they broke something that really matters to me: the ability to stream Zune Pass songs from my PC. I can stream purchased and ripped songs, but not subscription based ones, and they're from Microsoft's subscription service.

[Lady Jaye]

I noticed that shutdown is slower on my 360 since the update. Before, it would shut down instantly when I'd select that option with the controller. Now, it takes a good 20-30 seconds before the fan stops spinning.

Anyone else has noticed that on their Xbox as well?

[The 1 2 P]

I noticed that shutdown is slower on my 360 since the update. Before, it would shut down instantly when I'd select that option with the controller. Now, it takes a good 20-30 seconds before the fan stops spinning.

Anyone else has noticed that on their Xbox as well?

I noticed that now when you turn off your 360 instead of just turning off and being off, the green light in the middle of the circle blinks every few seconds until I turn my tv back to the normal channel.

[Ryudo]

UI has not been good since they got rid of the blades

[Mr Mort]

I agree with much of what has been said already.

-It's way too hard to sort through my games. No way to filter out arcade games, scrolling through that list is a chore.

-It's evident the tiles are geared towards advertising since the largest ones are ads. A tiny tile to launch the game in the disc tray is lame.

-Try changing the theme on your Xbox now. Good luck finding where you do that.

-Beacons could have been implemented better.

-Not as easy to use without Kinect.

-The original "blades" dash is still my favorite.

The worst thing about this new dash tho? My 360 RROD'ed 10 minutes after I installed it. It could just be coincidence, but I'll be a conspiracy theorist and say it's too peculiar to be a coincidence.

[Leo_A]

The worst thing about this new dash tho? My 360 RROD'ed 10 minutes after I installed it. It could just be coincidence, but I'll be a conspiracy theorist and say it's too peculiar to be a coincidence.

If it wasn't a coincidence and was actually a direct result of the new dash, I think it would've been a widespread problem. It didn't decide just to pick your 360 to cause a RROD on.

Yet it doesn't seem to be causing any widespread issues other than annoyances with the design itself.

[Mr Mort]

If it wasn't a coincidence and was actually a direct result of the new dash, I think it would've been a widespread problem. It didn't decide just to pick your 360 to cause a RROD on.

Yet it doesn't seem to be causing any widespread issues other than annoyances with the design itself.

I'm sure you're right, I'm just bitter.

[heybtbm]

I noticed that shutdown is slower on my 360 since the update. Before, it would shut down instantly when I'd select that option with the controller. Now, it takes a good 20-30 seconds before the fan stops spinning.

Anyone else has noticed that on their Xbox as well?

I've noticed the same thing. I have a 250gig slim. I'm wondering if the older model 360's do this after the update too.

[Lady Jaye]

Mine is the red Resident Evil 5 model, so yes, I have an older model.

[The Shawn]

I have a 3 year old arcade model with a 20GB. and it still shuts down at the same speed. Or at least seems to.

[Dobie]

I have to say, I was wrong about the Cloud Storage and its limitations. After playing with the new dash some more, I realized that MS did away with the old gamertag migration/recovery idea, and made it so you can now download your profile and gamertag permanently to multiple consoles (cue angels singing)! Finally! I have no idea how many consoles they let you do this for, but I put my main gamertag on both of my Xbox systems. You only have to download your profile once, and the profile remains active on both systems without having to recover every time you switch consoles. The download of the profile itself was much faster and more streamlined than it used to be. You cannot log in on one gamertag on both systems at the same time, which makes sense.

I have not tried downloading DLC or arcade games to my 2nd console yet, but I'm assuming the DRM works the same as before, meaning you would have to be connected to Live on the 2nd console for the DLC to work. This makes cloud storage much more awesome and useful!

[Lady Jaye]

I read a thread on the official Xbox forums about the slow shutdown and it may be due to online updates being transmitted when we turn off the console. When I get home tonight, I'll see if there are some settings like automated cloud updates that are activated and see if the shutdown is back to normal after disabling those settings.

If anyone tries it, let us know if it makes a difference, and which settings you actually turned off for this.

[Mayhem]

I have cloud off, and it still pauses before shutting down on mine. I figure there's no way to stop whatever it is now doing.


Yet it doesn't seem to be causing any widespread issues other than annoyances with the design itself.
I dunno, but my 360 has been hard crashing at least once almost every night since the dash update, so something is going wrong there...

[Oobgarm]

No errors at all prior to the update, now I'm seeing E71 and E72 errors when i try to go back to the dash from a game, and I cannot look at achievements when I get them in-game or in the guide menu.

Running a Resident Evil system.

[dgdgagdae]

I read a thread on the official Xbox forums about the slow shutdown and it may be due to online updates being transmitted when we turn off the console. When I get home tonight, I'll see if there are some settings like automated cloud updates that are activated and see if the shutdown is back to normal after disabling those settings.

If anyone tries it, let us know if it makes a difference, and which settings you actually turned off for this.

Mine takes 20-30 seconds to shut down too, although I've not timed it. I'm not sure what to try turning off. I have cloud storage disabled, so it shouldn't be syncing any saves back or anything like that.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I just checked my shutdown times, prior to enabling cloud storage it shut down immediately.

After enabling cloud storage I got about 10-15 seconds of extra activity after it shut down the video feed and two extra blinks on the center green power light. I assume that was the XBOX sending stuff TOOOO THE CLOOOOUDS!!

No errors coming in or out of any games.

I'm running an Arcade unit from around the time they added HDMI to video out.

[JSoup]

I haven't updated my partners 360 in forever, but I've always found the 360's menus a pain to navigate.

[Leo_A]

I haven't updated my partners 360 in forever, but I've always found the 360's menus a pain to navigate.

If you thought the past versions were bad, just wait until you update.

I miss the first design.

[Oobgarm]

No errors at all prior to the update, now I'm seeing E71 and E72 errors when i try to go back to the dash from a game, and I cannot look at achievements when I get them in-game or in the guide menu.

Running a Resident Evil system.

After a couple days of those errors, the machine has red-ringed. :angry:

[The Shawn]

After a couple days of those errors, the machine has red-ringed. :angry:

Ouch!

Well everything seemed to be OK. but the last few times I have played a game the unit froze and Had to be manually turned off and on again. Never had a problem before. I may take it off-line just in case, maybe that will help.

If it RR's I'm gonna be all sorts of pissed off.

[Oobgarm]

Ouch!

Well everything seemed to be OK. but the last few times I have played a game the unit froze and Had to be manually turned off and on again. Never had a problem before. I may take it off-line just in case, maybe that will help.

If it RR's I'm gonna be all sorts of pissed off.

I had mine offline and everything and it still RR'd.

I'm not going to be sending it back for repair, either.

[megasdkirby]

Ugh, I can't stand this new Dash. It's so cumbersome.

And where in the heck is the Xbox Game of the week?!

[dgdgagdae]

I just checked my shutdown times, prior to enabling cloud storage it shut down immediately.

After enabling cloud storage I got about 10-15 seconds of extra activity after it shut down the video feed and two extra blinks on the center green power light. I assume that was the XBOX sending stuff TOOOO THE CLOOOOUDS!!

No errors coming in or out of any games.

I'm running an Arcade unit from around the time they added HDMI to video out.

Mine also takes that long, only I disabled cloud storage, and that didn't make a difference.

That's not why I disabled it, since the long shutdown doesn't really seem to be a problem. I disabled it because I don't need games asking me to choose a storage device every time.

[The 1 2 P]

Ugh, I can't stand this new Dash. It's so cumbersome.

And where in the heck is the Xbox Game of the week?!

Do you mean the Deal of the week? Click on the "games" header at top and it will be the upper right box.

I wonder if I'll have any problems if I hook up my old Jasper chip 360. I should try since I still have another two months left on my 3 year extended warranty in case of rrod or E72 errors.

[MarioMania]

Can you still go online with the old 360 Dashboard??

[Oobgarm]

Can you still go online with the old 360 Dashboard??

Never. Updated required.

[Gamingking]

One thing that pisses me off, I can't find out how to enlarge the screen for Netflix. You used to press A, Then it gave you the option. Now, I don't even see one...

[Collector_Gaming]

God i hate this thing. Netflix has been a hit or miss with service on mine. And it just disconected from live for the first time ever randomly while playing fallout new vegas.
Microsoft needs to fix thier problems asap