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norkusa
12-22-2011, 02:53 AM
A big heads-up for anyone using iOS. iMAME has just been released on iPhone & iPad for free. Comes with a few free games but apparently you can load your own .zip's on it too with a 3rd party utility like iExplorer without jailbreaking.

There's a good chance it'll get pulled from the app store soon, so grab it while you can:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/imame/id485639079?mt=8

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-22-2011, 08:21 AM
HOLY CRAP!

Downloaded and IMMEDIATELY backed up to iTunes on my PC to protect from the inevitable pull.

THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!

I can confirm that iExplore works fine for installing extra game zips on iOS 5.0, just drop the files in iMame>Documents on the device.

Oobgarm
12-22-2011, 08:30 AM
Don't have my iPod yet, but I made sure to grab this. I'm amazed that it's still up.

I imagine this in a iCade would be quite awesome.

RCM
12-22-2011, 10:57 AM
This sounds neat, but I play iPad and iPhone for games designed specifically with those platforms in mind.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-22-2011, 11:40 AM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/FrankieViturello/8cbccd54.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/FrankieViturello/6ab67d8a.jpg

Here's a few screen shots of the interface. You can adjust button layout or do it full screen with buttons as transparent overlays.

Like all good MAMEs there are all measure of processor/clock tweaks that you can do per game.

FYI Paperboy fans, Paperboy doesn't slow drift to the right. *edit* actually it's temperamental but seems to straighten out if the deadzone is at maximum and you accelerate straight for a few seconds right at the beginning of the street.

sweet.

norkusa
12-22-2011, 12:28 PM
Do the touch screen controls get any easier to use? Just got the 4S a few months ago and I find it really awkward playing games on the iPhone. Tried playing Kick on iMAME for a few minutes but trying to line up the see-saw underneath the jumping guy was impossible.

Seems like the controller would move all the way in one direction, or just nudge it slightly. Feels like there are no inbetweens.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-22-2011, 12:39 PM
Do the touch screen controls get any easier to use? Just got the 4S a few months ago and I find it really awkward playing games on the iPhone. Tried playing Kick on iMAME for a few minutes but trying to line up the see-saw underneath the jumping guy was impossible.

Seems like the controller would move all the way in one direction, or just nudge it slightly. Feels like there are no inbetweens.


There are control option settings that you can adjust, it's default on analog, you can adjust sensitivity, or perhaps try changing the setting to digital.

*edit* after trying some stuff like Kick that requires a dial or trackball control, I can confirm that it's pretty rough in this, like any MAME setup that translate those movements to a joystick be it digital or analog. However, X/Y flight yoke games like Star Wars Arcade are pretty okay with the analog joystick.

davidbrit2
12-22-2011, 12:43 PM
FYI, you need ROM sets for MAME 0.37b5 for this version. Conveniently, those are the same ROMs you need for the Dingoo A320 port of MAME, so you can get some useful Google results that way.

Seems to work really well, but touch controls are just really sloppy for fast, accurate 8-way movement. I find 4-way and 2-way games are a lot more playable.

norkusa
12-22-2011, 02:58 PM
Oh yeah, switching to digital feels much better.

Anyone try Neo Geo or CPS roms yet? I'm curious to see if those work at all.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-22-2011, 03:26 PM
Oh yeah, switching to digital feels much better.

Anyone try Neo Geo or CPS roms yet? I'm curious to see if those work at all.

Reports are that the ones in the appropriate rom set work.

MarioMania
12-22-2011, 05:06 PM
Let ask why??

You could always get MAME for the PC or Xbox, Not for this Garbage

davidbrit2
12-22-2011, 05:14 PM
Let ask why??

You could always get MAME for the PC or Xbox, Not for this Garbage

Yeah, because I always carry my XBox around in a belt holster so I have something to do while taking a shit.

Flack
12-22-2011, 05:15 PM
Let ask why??

You could always get MAME for the PC or Xbox, Not for this Garbage

How well does your Xbox fit in your pocket?

Does anyone know if this works with the iCade? If so, I'm ordering one tonight.

megasdkirby
12-22-2011, 05:15 PM
Downloaded it yesterday night.

Damn awesome that it's available. I will be backing this shit up pretty soon as well.

megasdkirby
12-22-2011, 05:17 PM
How well does your Xbox fit in your pocket?

Does anyone know if this works with the iCade? If so, I'm ordering one tonight.

There is an option called CONTROL LAYOUT and there are two options: iCP and iCade.

So my guess? Yes.

StealthLurker
12-22-2011, 05:25 PM
I tried it on my icade just for shits n giggles... works great but looks ridiculous with a tiny phone in the icade lol.

By the way, there's a sale on the iControlPad on ThinkGeek.com for $60. Normally ordering the iControlPad from Europe (where it's made) will run you about $100 shipped. Just ordered one.

Not the most elegant design for smartphone tactile controls, but small enough to pack in a bag for trips.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/cell-phone/eb2b/

To get the side clamps to give a much more flush appearance, they can be ordered from here:

http://www.icontrolpad.com/order/




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norkusa
12-22-2011, 06:36 PM
Does anyone know if this works with the iCade? If so, I'm ordering one tonight.

It does. This was posted on Mac Rumors by the guy who created iMame4all, which is what iMAME is based on:


Hi all,

This app is based on my iMame4All Xcode project, which in turn is based on Seleuco's iMame4All for iOS devices port. To find out what works and doesn't work go to my website here: http://www.lesbird.com/iMame4All/iMame4All_Xcode.html but to sum things up:

1. WiiMote's don't work. They require chip level access to the Bluetooth chipset which will only work on jailbroken devices.
2. You need the ROMs for iMame4All for the GP32X (MAME v37b5). If you can find them they should work.
3. When I created the iMame4All Xcode project I included all of the sound samples for the iMame4All ROM set.

I did not submit this to the App Store, that was done by Jim Van who used my iMame4All Xcode project as a base starting point then trimmed out anything that was not App Store compliant.

For controllers there are 2 options - iCade and iControlPad. Let me explain the difference between them. When you connect your iControlPad or iCade a window will pop up asking which mode you want to use. I highly recommend choosing iCade mode for both controllers (put the iControlPad in iCade emulation mode). The reason is that in iControlPad mode it expects the controller to be in special packet mode. This will allow you to use the dual nubs on the iControlPad to play games like Robotron, however the downside is that there is a lot of data being transmitted over the Bluetooth and iPad 1's and anything less will have a hard time keeping up.

Hope this clears some stuff up.

- Les

StealthLurker
12-23-2011, 09:46 AM
It does. This was posted on Mac Rumors by the guy who created iMame4all, which is what iMAME is based on:


Hi all,

This app is based on my iMame4All Xcode project, which in turn is based on Seleuco's iMame4All for iOS devices port. To find out what works and doesn't work go to my website here: http://www.lesbird.com/iMame4All/iMame4All_Xcode.html but to sum things up:

1. WiiMote's don't work. They require chip level access to the Bluetooth chipset which will only work on jailbroken devices.
2. You need the ROMs for iMame4All for the GP32X (MAME v37b5). If you can find them they should work.
3. When I created the iMame4All Xcode project I included all of the sound samples for the iMame4All ROM set.

I did not submit this to the App Store, that was done by Jim Van who used my iMame4All Xcode project as a base starting point then trimmed out anything that was not App Store compliant.

For controllers there are 2 options - iCade and iControlPad. Let me explain the difference between them. When you connect your iControlPad or iCade a window will pop up asking which mode you want to use. I highly recommend choosing iCade mode for both controllers (put the iControlPad in iCade emulation mode). The reason is that in iControlPad mode it expects the controller to be in special packet mode. This will allow you to use the dual nubs on the iControlPad to play games like Robotron, however the downside is that there is a lot of data being transmitted over the Bluetooth and iPad 1's and anything less will have a hard time keeping up.

Hope this clears some stuff up.

- Les


Been following the iMAME4ALL thread on toucharcade for a while and I believe you posted this there as well. Do you know if Jim is taking a look at the bug some iphones/ipads experience in the options menu? Works on my 4S but not on my iPad2. I was thinking it was because my iPad was jailbroken, but some non-jailbroken iPads are experiencing the problem also.


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dgdgagdae
12-23-2011, 11:01 AM
I tried this with a few of my roms, and most didn't work. I see now from the thread that I need an older version of the roms. Between that and the inherent problem with using touch controls, this just doesn't seem to be worth the trouble.

Not to mention that I had to install QuickTime to use iExplorer to get the roms onto my iPad. I couldn't uninstall it fast enough when iTunes stopped requiring it recently.

norkusa
12-23-2011, 12:00 PM
I tried this with a few of my roms, and most didn't work. I see now from the thread that I need an older version of the roms. Between that and the inherent problem with using touch controls, this just doesn't seem to be worth the trouble.

Not to mention that I had to install QuickTime to use iExplorer to get the roms onto my iPad. I couldn't uninstall it fast enough when iTunes stopped requiring it recently.

It's just the v37b5 rom set. It's the same set used for just about every portable version of MAME out there, so it's not that hard to find. Loaded about 20 different roms so far and they all work.

Yeah, the touch controls kinda suck but doing what davidbrit suggested by switching the controls to digital + sticking with 2 & 4-way games make it much more tolerable.


Sorry Stealth, I just saw that on Mac Rumors and posted it here. Don't know anything about toucharcade.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-23-2011, 01:56 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, iMame has left the App Store.

Congrats to those who were quick enough to get in before the yoink!

treismac
12-23-2011, 03:11 PM
DAMN! I just saw this thread. Grrrr...:angry:

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-23-2011, 04:12 PM
Was doing some last minute XMas shopping and snagged an iCade for $80 at Bed Bath & Beyond.

It actually WORKS GREAT with iMame when paired with my phone and I think that iMame runs smoother when it's not having to deal with giving the touch-screen processor priority!

While I don't personally own an iPad yet (we have an iPad 1 in our household but it belongs to my better half) I'm anticipating getting one right after the holidays, and I'm really glad that iMame put me over on getting the iCade, it's a really well crafted bit of kit.

StealthLurker
12-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Was doing some last minute XMas shopping and snagged an iCade for $80 at Bed Bath & Beyond.

It actually WORKS GREAT with iMame when paired with my phone and I think that iMame runs smoother when it's not having to deal with giving the touch-screen processor priority!

While I don't personally own an iPad yet (we have an iPad 1 in our household but it belongs to my better half) I'm anticipating getting one right after the holidays, and I'm really glad that iMame put me over on getting the iCade, it's a really well crafted bit of kit.

Best Buy was selling them for $60 at one time. I was thinking about picking one up because of the price and the side art is diff from the ThinkGeek.com version, however I already have 2 (1 for home & 1 at work) so that's just nutty.

If you jailbreak your future ipad, the snes, genesis, pc-engine/tg16 and nes emulators work with the icade too. Some quick videos I took to show my coworker who also has an ipad+icade... the next day at work he spent half the day installing and copying roms from me lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-LxKt8Afo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uazn7TTP4jc

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dgdgagdae
12-24-2011, 12:53 AM
Ok, I'm a convert. I got some tips on how to find what I needed (thanks Frankie!) and as long as I stay away from trackball games, I think I can live with the on-screen controls. This is pretty neat.

Out of curiosity, I just checked Amazon, and they sell the iCade. It's $70, which is $10 less than ThinkGeek (and $30 less than Best Buy, yikes).

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-24-2011, 01:03 AM
Ok, I'm a convert. I got some tips on how to find what I needed (thanks Frankie!) and as long as I stay away from trackball games, I think I can live with the on-screen controls. This is pretty neat.

Out of curiosity, I just checked Amazon, and they sell the iCade. It's $70, which is $10 less than ThinkGeek (and $20 less than Best Buy, yikes).

No problem! I'm always happy to help.

$70 is a great price, but the thing is TOTALLY worth $80 or $90 with the vast library of games that iMAME makes functional on the iPad.

Bed Bath & Beyond stores have it on sale for $80 ATM.

dgdgagdae
12-25-2011, 01:13 AM
No problem! I'm always happy to help.

$70 is a great price, but the thing is TOTALLY worth $80 or $90 with the vast library of games that iMAME makes functional on the iPad.

Bed Bath & Beyond stores have it on sale for $80 ATM.

I bit for $70. It should be here Wednesday. I also went ahead and got the Atari Classics pack. The entire thing is $10 now, down from the original price of $15.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-25-2011, 12:54 PM
I bit for $70. It should be here Wednesday. I also went ahead and got the Atari Classics pack. The entire thing is $10 now, down from the original price of $15.

Yeah, I bought that at full price, that has some really refined control settings on it, so if something like Asteroids, Centipede or Red Baron doesn't float your boat on iMame you can give it a go on that, plus it has a SHIT TON of Atari 2600 games on it too.

Ponyone
12-26-2011, 08:00 AM
Is the app still around anywhere? Do I need to jailbreak my ipad2? I just got it for Xmas

geneshifter
12-26-2011, 08:48 AM
Is the app still around anywhere? Do I need to jailbreak my ipad2? I just got it for Xmas

Unfortunately it was pulled from the store so you will have to jailbreak to get it at this point.

megasdkirby
12-26-2011, 08:59 AM
Managed to back up my copy via iTunes, and I am now making a complety backup of the iTunes folder to my external HDD, which I will then backup on a BD-R.

Haven't been able to download ROMs for it, but I hope certain titles, like The Simpsons, Shadow Dancer, E-Swat, and others work perfectly.

StealthLurker
12-26-2011, 07:27 PM
Managed to back up my copy via iTunes, and I am now making a complety backup of the iTunes folder to my external HDD, which I will then backup on a BD-R.

Haven't been able to download ROMs for it, but I hope certain titles, like The Simpsons, Shadow Dancer, E-Swat, and others work perfectly.

Those titles work fine. There are lots of GP2X complete mame rom sets floating around.

I haven't tried, but with apps... when you back up your device, can you simply copy the IPA for the app and drop it to another person's PC app folder and install via iTunes on a non jailbroken device? It may not install due to being "unverified" (purchased by another user), however since iMAME was free.. maybe it will work? This should just work on a jailbroken device, but haven't tested on a non jailbroken one.


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geneshifter
12-26-2011, 07:34 PM
I also wanted to add that I picked up an iCade today and it works great with iMAME. It even hides the on-screen controls when the iCade is detected. Contra, Galaga, Baseball Stars 2, Spelunker, Commando, Bubbles, etc., etc.. all working great on this thing!

StealthLurker
12-26-2011, 07:55 PM
Ok, I'm a convert. I got some tips on how to find what I needed (thanks Frankie!) and as long as I stay away from trackball games, I think I can live with the on-screen controls. This is pretty neat.

Out of curiosity, I just checked Amazon, and they sell the iCade. It's $70, which is $10 less than ThinkGeek (and $30 less than Best Buy, yikes).


These work too by the way.... but you need to jailbreak:

http://i.imgur.com/QpeS7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qaQV1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vYiAl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gR84C.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ppwVG.jpg



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Flack
12-26-2011, 08:16 PM
If someone can send me the .ipa file, I will test it on my jailbroken iPad.

StealthLurker
12-26-2011, 08:22 PM
If someone can send me the .ipa file, I will test it on my jailbroken iPad.

What's there to test? The official iMAME from appstore just works on a jailbroken device via manual ipa installation.

Anyways if you're jailbroken, iMAME4ALL is better due to having more tweakable options vs. iMAME and can be readily downloaded and installed through Cydia.

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Frankie_Says_Relax
12-26-2011, 08:35 PM
What's there to test? The official iMAME from appstore just works on a jailbroken device via manual ipa installation.

Anyways if you're jailbroken, iMAME4ALL is better due to having more tweakable options vs. iMAME and can be readily downloaded and installed through Cydia.

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Oh man, I love your version of the iCade, I got the red one with the more generic graphics. Was there some option that I missed to get that design?

StealthLurker
12-26-2011, 08:37 PM
Oh man, I love your version of the iCade, I got the red one with the more generic graphics. Was there some option that I missed for that design?

It's the model that's available on ThinkGeek.com

I still want to get the red version available at retail stores... though I'll wait for a clearance sale or something lol.

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dgdgagdae
12-26-2011, 11:47 PM
It's the model that's available on ThinkGeek.com

I still want to get the red version available at retail stores... though I'll wait for a clearance sale or something lol.

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From what I can see, I believe that's the older artwork. The pictures on ThinkGeek have the new red artwork, which is what I should be getting from Amazon this week. I really like that older artwork, it's so much more 80s.

StealthLurker
12-27-2011, 12:10 AM
From what I can see, I believe that's the older artwork. The pictures on ThinkGeek have the new red artwork, which is what I should be getting from Amazon this week. I really like that older artwork, it's so much more 80s.

The ThinkGeek website has always used that red version in the photos. I pre-ordered the iCade months before it came out. It was released first on ThinkGeek, then a few months later it started hitting US retailers. The rainbow & wood panel version was a special version made just for ThinkGeek.

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dgdgagdae
12-27-2011, 09:09 AM
The ThinkGeek website has always used that red version in the photos. I pre-ordered the iCade months before it came out. It was released first on ThinkGeek, then a few months later it started hitting US retailers. The rainbow & wood panel version was a special version made just for ThinkGeek.

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Interesting. Do you happen to know if that was only for those who preordered? Has anyone ordered recently from ThinkGeek, and which version did you receive?

dgdgagdae
12-27-2011, 02:29 PM
Interesting. Do you happen to know if that was only for those who preordered? Has anyone ordered recently from ThinkGeek, and which version did you receive?

I asked the question on the product page at ThinkGeek.com and got the following answer back:

Right now we're all about the crazy red design. Though we are planning on coming out with skins, soonish. There's no date on those yet, but they're in the works!

Oh well.

Ponyone
12-27-2011, 02:34 PM
can the ipad 2 with ios 5 even be jailbroken?

StealthLurker
12-27-2011, 03:21 PM
Interesting. Do you happen to know if that was only for those who preordered? Has anyone ordered recently from ThinkGeek, and which version did you receive?

Besides the one I got at launch (summer), I ordered a second one (fall) from ThinkGeek. Both were the rainbow/wood version.

Yeah maybe they ran out and only have red now in stock. It's funny though, when I got my first one and started telling people about it no one cared. However now that a bunch of people got them around the Holidays its pretty popular now. Oh well.



can the ipad 2 with ios 5 even be jailbroken?

I don't think there's a un-tethered jailbreak for it yet. I have a jailbroken iPad2, but with an older version of iOS.


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Flack
12-27-2011, 03:28 PM
What's there to test? The official iMAME from appstore just works on a jailbroken device via manual ipa installation.

Anyways if you're jailbroken, iMAME4ALL is better due to having more tweakable options vs. iMAME and can be readily downloaded and installed through Cydia.


I guess I'll try that way then. I missed iMAME while it was in the appstore.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-27-2011, 03:45 PM
I asked the question on the product page at ThinkGeek.com and got the following answer back:

Right now we're all about the crazy red design. Though we are planning on coming out with skins, soonish. There's no date on those yet, but they're in the works!

Oh well.

Awesome. I'd be up for skins with the rainbow/woodgrain designs.

I don't strictly hate the red design, but in comparison to the right-on-ness of the other design it just seems like more of a retro-by-way-of-1993 or something if that makes sense.

Famidrive-16
12-28-2011, 04:05 AM
Yeah I nabbed this while it was still up.

I think there's some "unofficial" compatibility with this, seeing as if I put something like NBA Jam it shows up fine, but some obscure titles I threw in didn't appear in the list.

StealthLurker
12-28-2011, 05:02 AM
Yeah I nabbed this while it was still up.

I think there's some "unofficial" compatibility with this, seeing as if I put something like NBA Jam it shows up fine, but some obscure titles I threw in didn't appear in the list.

The complete rom set for MAME version 0.37b works. So whatever roms worked in that version will work on iMAME. Same romset and emu version that's been ported to the GP2X, Dingoo, Caanoo, etc etc handhelds.

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Frankie_Says_Relax
12-28-2011, 09:56 AM
Yeah I nabbed this while it was still up.

I think there's some "unofficial" compatibility with this, seeing as if I put something like NBA Jam it shows up fine, but some obscure titles I threw in didn't appear in the list.

If they're roms that are actually derived from the 0.37b set they should be showing up, but keep in mind that the 37b set is relatively limited in comparison to modern sets.

Still about 2000+ working unique roms though.

I've hit a few games in that set that crash iMAME but what works tends to do so swimmingly.

dgdgagdae
12-28-2011, 08:07 PM
I just got my iCade today, and it is totally awesome with iMame. I can't recommend this combination enough.

Famidrive-16
12-28-2011, 10:04 PM
Weird.... might just be something with my iPod then.

It's weird though, like the game names appear if I open it up in the explorer.

dgdgagdae
12-29-2011, 09:55 AM
Weird.... might just be something with my iPod then.

It's weird though, like the game names appear if I open it up in the explorer.

Assuming you have the right version of the Roms, you may just need to tell iMame to rescan. You can either do this through the options menu, using a button at the very bottom, or you can end the application (double-press home, long hold on the icon at the bottom, click the red minus) and restart it. It won't rescan the folder if you just exit and come back in.

davidbrit2
12-29-2011, 11:00 AM
For those of you with an iCade, how's the input latency? Even the lag from an HDTV throws me off.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-29-2011, 11:46 AM
For those of you with an iCade, how's the input latency? Even the lag from an HDTV throws me off.

I don't notice any but I have a pretty decent threshold of tolerance for micro-second lag. if you're hyper-sensitive about it I'm sure that there is some present since it not only sends commands over bluetooth but through the keyboard software of the iOS device.

Other online reviews of the product seem to agree that lag is not pronounced to any great degree on any compatible software.

StealthLurker
12-29-2011, 02:48 PM
I don't notice any but I have a pretty decent threshold of tolerance for micro-second lag. if you're hyper-sensitive about it I'm sure that there is some present since it not only sends commands over bluetooth but through the keyboard software of the iOS device.

Other online reviews of the product seem to agree that lag is not pronounced to any great degree on any compatible software.


For me the test was playing street fighter 2 hyper fighting. Yes I was able to do the combos. The real limitation is the quality of the buttons and stick, not any perceived lag. I'm too used to japanese sanwa/semitsu quality sticks and buttons now.

I'm pretty sure that the sticks and buttons on these aren't official Happs parts either, just recreations of them. So the buttons are a little stiffer than what I'm used to, so I have to remember to use a little more force than usual in street fighter 2 HF.... especially when "twitching out" moves. But this trumps virtual controls any day of the week.

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davidbrit2
12-29-2011, 05:54 PM
So hey, Bed Bath and Beyond has the iCade on sale for $50 now. That's petty rad.

StealthLurker
12-29-2011, 06:19 PM
So hey, Bed Bath and Beyond has the iCade on sale for $50 now. That's petty rad.

Woo NICE! Ordered! Looks like I'm gonna have an iCade Arcade with a 3rd one lol.

By the way, the iCade also works on Android Tablets using the correct emulators.

Asus Transformer table + Mame4Droid + iCade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCcRwm9oHus

Also works on the Motorola Xoom tablet.

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davidbrit2
12-29-2011, 06:31 PM
Oh damn, this thing works nice. There's nearly zero input lag in iMame and Pix'n Love Rush.

Any simple way to adjust only the iCade layout for iMame? The default layout is kind of awkward.

Frankie_Says_Relax
12-29-2011, 07:21 PM
Oh damn, this thing works nice. There's nearly zero input lag in iMame and Pix'n Love Rush.

Any simple way to adjust only the iCade layout for iMame? The default layout is kind of awkward.

I believe that the first time I booted the thing up with the iCade enabled it prompted me to hit A+X on the virtual buttons, with iCade as the control option that seemed to make all the default layout controller and buttons work as they should.

If you want to tweak the controls in a specific game - when you have a game loaded pressing start + coin on the touch screen to bring up the in-mame options. You can adjust your control and button layouts and do further control tweaking in there as you would in any version of MAME.

Though, note, when assigning buttons, sometimes the first try will register as "mouse input X" (i think that's a touch anywhere on the touch screen that's not a button) ... if you see that happen move off the option, move back on and map the control option again. Single button presses seem to register as HUGE long strings of inputs ... but they work fine.

norkusa
12-29-2011, 07:29 PM
Is there an easy way to transfer the complete romset over to iPhone? I'm using iExplorer to load them....they transferred fast at first but now I'm at the "K's" they're taking like 5+ seconds for each rom to transfer.

Would it be faster to use sub-folders for the roms instead? Like "A-D", "E-H", etc.?

Ze_ro
12-31-2011, 01:48 AM
A big heads-up for anyone using iOS. iMAME has just been released on iPhone & iPad for free. Comes with a few free games

Technically, they didn't have the rights to distribute those "free" games... only the MAME website (http://mamedev.org/roms/) can legally distribute them... but whatever.

Also, if the iCade is a little too much for you, you might want to check out the iControlPad (http://www.icontrolpad.com/). It's substantially more portable, it's compatible with the iCade, and it's compatible with basically all cell phones.

--Zero

norkusa
01-02-2012, 04:57 PM
So hey, Bed Bath and Beyond has the iCade on sale for $50 now. That's petty rad.

Thanks for the tip, just bought one today although I only have an iPhone 4S right now.

Buttons feel kind of cheap but those could be replaced easily, right?

StealthLurker
01-02-2012, 08:05 PM
Thanks for the tip, just bought one today although I only have an iPhone 4S right now.

Buttons feel kind of cheap but those could be replaced easily, right?

A guy I know and some guy on the shoryuken forums changed the stick and buttons with Sanwa parts. You've got to do some sanding to expand the button and joystick holes. Depending on the parts you choose, it may not fit depth-wise and all sorts of other things. It's not simple plug n play swapping.

I compiled a list of parts needed to fully replace everything with high quality Sanwa parts (and any supplement parts in the process)... the cost exceeds the price of the iCade itself lol. But I plan to do it anyways. Just need to find the time. I believe there might need to be some desoldering to do also.

LL Quick Connect, .110" Insulated
LL 22 AWG Stranded Wire, Green
LL 8 Position Barrier Strip, European Style
Sanwa OBSF-30, 30mm Pushbutton, Black/White x2
Sanwa OBSF-30, 30mm Pushbutton, Black/Grey x2
Sanwa OBSF-30, 30mm Pushbutton, Black/Green
Sanwa OBSF-30, 30mm Pushbutton, Black/Yellow
Sanwa OBSF-30, 30mm Pushbutton, Black/Vermillion
Sanwa JLF-H Wiring Harness
Sanwa JLF-CD Shaft Cover Kit
Sanwa LB-45 Ball Top, Red
Sanwa JLF-TM-8T-SK Joystick

*soldering iron + solder
*various grit sandpaper or dremel tool

Here is the thread on shoryuken where they detail the process and parts for swapping of the controls:

http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?threads/icade-for-ipad-stick-related.131948/

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Frankie_Says_Relax
01-03-2012, 09:23 PM
ooo, got my iPad2 in the mail today and spent the better part of the evening tooling around with iMAME. Great stuff.

A few games did NOT play nice with custom button mapping (they kept defaulting each button map to ENTER as soon as an alternate control button was pressed) ... and with iMAME's lack of physical keyboard you can't clear out/revert a control input to its default.

Thankfully it's very very easy to find all the auto-saved .CFG files in the iMAME>document folder by using iExplore, if you completely bork a control setting, quit iMAME, double tap your home button, kill the process, then plug into iExplore, go to the iMAME>docume folder and in each folder (iOS, iMAME, CFG, etc.) find any *.CFG file for the game that you screwed up and delete it, iMAME will revert it back to default inputs when you restart.

megasdkirby
01-03-2012, 09:36 PM
If you have iOS 4.3.3 or similar installed...you are in emulator heaven.

dgdgagdae
01-04-2012, 10:04 AM
I finally gave up completely on trying to map the buttons for Track & Field and Hyper Olympics. Other than that, sometimes I have to go through the mapping steps a couple of times to get it to work correctly, but usually I can get it. The mapping is just kind of wonky, it seems.

Frankie_Says_Relax
01-04-2012, 11:01 AM
I finally gave up completely on trying to map the buttons for Track & Field and Hyper Olympics. Other than that, sometimes I have to go through the mapping steps a couple of times to get it to work correctly, but usually I can get it. The mapping is just kind of wonky, it seems.

LOL THAT WAS THE EXACT GAME THAT I WAS HAVING TROUBLE WITH!!!

After deleting all the CFG files and defaulting back to the regular layout, I'm totally fine with the run buttons and the action button being in the lower right corner of the iCade.

StealthLurker
01-04-2012, 07:06 PM
When you are in the button configuration menu and make a mistake mapping one button, you can set that button back to the default.

1. Move the joystick to the button you want to set back to default
2. Hit the enter button which allows you to modify the mapping for that button. So now it's waiting for input to establish a button mapping.
3. Now instead of hitting another button to map it to, hit the "exit" button on the screen.
4. It will ask if you want to quit the game, hit "yes". You will not actually quit the game. Pressing the exit button is equivalent to pressing the escape key on a keyboard. On standard MAME for the PC, pressing escape during button mapping clears all mappings. But in iMAME it sets the mapping back to default.

In older versions of iMAME4All (jailbroken version), clearing the mapping actually cleared all mappings for a particular button (no defaults). I preferred this... but now in newer versions of iMAME4All and in the current incarnation of iMAME, the clearing process only sets it back to whatever the default was.

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Frankie_Says_Relax
01-04-2012, 08:27 PM
When you are in the button configuration menu and make a mistake mapping one button, you can set that button back to the default.

1. Move the joystick to the button you want to set back to default
2. Hit the enter button which allows you to modify the mapping for that button. So now it's waiting for input to establish a button mapping.
3. Now instead of hitting another button to map it to, hit the "exit" button on the screen.
4. It will ask if you want to quit the game, hit "yes". You will not actually quit the game. Pressing the exit button is equivalent to pressing the escape key on a keyboard. On standard MAME for the PC, pressing escape during button mapping clears all mappings. But in iMAME it sets the mapping back to default.

In older versions of iMAME4All (jailbroken version), clearing the mapping actually cleared all mappings for a particular button (no defaults). I preferred this... but now in newer versions of iMAME4All and in the current incarnation of iMAME, the clearing process only sets it back to whatever the default was.

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Awesome, good to know.

Unfortunately on Track & Field and Hyper Sports it automatically throws "enter" in as the selected button map selection as soon as you try to remap no matter what you do. It may be something that's coded into iOS MAME4ALL to deal with the rapid button presses expected in that game.

deleting the CFG's via iExplore is the way to go there.

dgdgagdae
01-15-2012, 07:14 PM
Does anyone else have problems with analog controls in games pulling up and to the left? For example, in Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back: my cursor is at the bottom (which means control pushing up) left of the screen. I can move it, but it goes right back. The same thing happens in Paperboy. He's always speeding up and going to the left, if I let go of the controls. This happens whether I'm using the on screen controls or my iCade.

Frankie_Says_Relax
01-16-2012, 01:16 AM
Does anyone else have problems with analog controls in games pulling up and to the left? For example, in Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back: my cursor is at the bottom (which means control pushing up) left of the screen. I can move it, but it goes right back. The same thing happens in Paperboy. He's always speeding up and going to the left, if I let go of the controls. This happens whether I'm using the on screen controls or my iCade.

Try increasing the analog dead zone to 6 in the app options and then tweaking the speed/sensitivity in the in-MAME settings (press start+coin to bring that menu up in game)

I've also found that in games like paperboy where the analog is an acceleration based yoke that pressing forward, backwards, left, and right for a few seconds tends to allow MAME to "calibrate" the dead zone properly. Thats how I avoid that death swing to the left in Paperboy anyway, and you can do that when selecting the street.

Ultimately tweaking the in game analog speed and sensitivity will make a world of difference tho.

dgdgagdae
01-17-2012, 09:02 AM
Moving my joystick to all extremes worked, thanks. I didn't have to mess with anything else.