PS3 component cord help

[geezuzkhrist119]

I got this universal component cable that i got hooked up to my 360 and PS3.
I am able to get full 1080p on my 360 but with my PS3, the XMB is only in 1080p but when I go to play a game, the game is in the lowest quality.

How do i fix this to play in 1080p?

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

1080p is only ever attainable via an HDMI cable.

1080i is the max with component.

Regarding drop in resolution via component cable...

A.) The game needs to support 1080i (check the back of the game case to see supported resolution)

B.) On the PS3's system settings on the XMB you need to select the maximum possible resolution that you'll allow the system to utilize (it will give you a list of which ones you want to allow it to display with check-boxes) and in some cases you may need to ONLY select the maximum, as some games MAY default to 720p whether you want them to or not if there's an option.

[geezuzkhrist119]

1080p is only ever attainable via an HDMI cable.

1080i is the max with component.

Regarding drop in resolution via component cable...

A.) The game needs to support 1080i (check the back of the game case to see supported resolution)

B.) On the PS3's system settings on the XMB you need to select the maximum possible resolution that you'll allow the system to utilize (it will give you a list of which ones you want to allow it to display with check-boxes) and in some cases you may need to ONLY select the maximum, as some games MAY default to 720p whether you want them to or not if there's an option.

Thank you Frankie. You solved my problem.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Thank you Frankie. You solved my problem.

No prob.

I do my best!

[theclaw]

Even if you did make 1080p with component work on PS3, finding both a game and TV that support it might be tricky.

360 is more lenient about display modes. I believe 360 contains a dedicated hardware scaler chip, separate from its GPU (and certainly NOT done in software), allowing 100% of games to use 1080p on component/VGA/HDMI alike with near zero performance drop over the game's native.

[geezuzkhrist119]

For future reference - When setting up you ps3 display settings, check off all for options (420p, 740p, 1080i and 1080p).

My problem was that. I just had 1080p checked.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

For future reference - When setting up you ps3 display settings, check off all for options (420p, 740p, 1080i and 1080p).

My problem was that. I just had 1080p checked.

Yeah, not checking the 720 option will likely cause a default to 420 where there's no 1080 option.

Also, I was unaware that some TV/device combinations can handle 1080p via component cables, but apparently that is the case. I thought there were actually restrictions governing/restricting that.

Good to know.

[Leo_A]

Why can't the PS3 output at 1080p via component for the dashboard and games?

My Xbox 360 is able to do just that (Always used HDMI on my PS3 for DVD upscaling, so I never hooked it up with component cables, but I've been playing my 360 in 1080p for years via component).

[Gamevet]

Also, I was unaware that some TV/device combinations can handle 1080p via component cables, but apparently that is the case. I thought there were actually restrictions governing/restricting that.

Good to know.

It's a requirement for Blu-Ray playback. This is suppossed to deter piracy, by using the HDMI cable as a security check.

[Leo_A]

It's a requirement for Blu-Ray playback. This is suppossed to deter piracy, by using the HDMI cable as a security check.

Only in the past year or so for new Playstation 3's. The Blu-Ray Disc Association gave Sony a concession that allowed earlier Playstation 3's to play Blu-Ray video in HD over component cables since they recognized that many HDTV's out there simply didn't have a HDMI connection 5 years ago.

The only benefit to go with HDMI over component when I became a Playstation 3 owner three years ago was to enable upscaling for DVD video, which is why I went HDMI. Of course someone might've wanted to use HDMI for other reasons such as having everything integrated into one cable, because they had a spare HDMI cable, or because of their specific setup (Such as the fact that some HDTV's don't accept 1080p over component, although many sets do).

But the only significant performance difference between the two at the time was DVD upscaling.

[Gamevet]

Only in the past year or so for new Playstation 3's. The Blu-Ray Disc Association gave Sony a concession that allowed earlier Playstation 3's to play Blu-Ray video in HD over component cables since they recognized that many HDTV's out there simply didn't have a HDMI connection 5 years ago.

Yeah, those were 720p sets that did'nt require HDMI for Blu-Ray playback in 1080p. In the next couple of years, all Blu-Ray players will be required to do 1080p playback through HDMI. You can still play Blu-Ray in 1080i through component though.

Also.....
http://www.fudzilla.com/games/item/23429-ps3-hdmi-for-blu-ray-was-a-compliance-issue


As we told you yesterday, Sony is said to be doing away with the component outputs on the latest revision of the PlayStation 3 console, with HDMI being the only connection of choice. Actually, this is incorrect, as component support will still be available, but you will only be able to play Blu-ray video if you are using the HDMI connection.

The decision to close down the component output for Blu-ray has more to do with the company getting in compliance with the AACS standards than anything else. Owners will still be able to output to HD over a component connection, but only for HD games and streaming video content.

Blu-ray players sold after 2014 will only offer an HDMI output in order to be in compliance with the AACS standards.




The only benefit to go with HDMI over component when I became a Playstation 3 owner three years ago was to enable upscaling for DVD video, which is why I went HDMI. Of course someone might've wanted to use HDMI for other reasons such as having everything integrated into one cable, because they had a spare HDMI cable, or because of their specific setup (Such as the fact that some HDTV's don't accept 1080p over component, although many sets do).

But the only significant performance difference between the two at the time was DVD upscaling

I had a DVD player that would upscale through the HDMI cable to 1080i or 720p. Upscaled DVDs still look like ass.

Yeah, I was watching Blu-Rays in 720p (2007) with my PS3 using HDMI and component cables. You still couldn't watch a Blu-Ray movie in 1080p without using HDMI.

[Leo_A]

Yeah, those were 720p sets that did'nt require HDMI for Blu-Ray playback in 1080p. In the next couple of years, all Blu-Ray players will be required to do 1080p playback through HDMI. You can still play Blu-Ray in 1080i through component though.

It didn't matter what HD resolution you picked, most PS3's can play Blu-Ray video in HD. I don't believe any other Blu-Ray capable player was provided this concession, but maybe. But I doubt there's any player being manufactured today that supports Blu-Ray video playback in HD via component since like I said, the Blu-Ray Disc Association stopped allowing newly manufactured PS3's to do so approximately a year ago.


I had a DVD player that would upscale through the HDMI cable to 1080i or 720p. Upscaled DVDs still look like ass.

Not all upscaling DVD players are created equal. The Playstation 3 has done a pretty nice job for me. I still don't own a dedicated upscaling DVD player since I've been happy with the job the PS3 does.

[Gamevet]

It didn't matter what HD resolution you picked, most PS3's can play Blu-Ray video in HD. I don't believe any other Blu-Ray capable player was provided this concession, but maybe. But I doubt there's any player being manufactured today that supports Blu-Ray video playback in HD via component since like I said, the Blu-Ray Disc Association stopped allowing newly manufactured PS3's to do so approximately a year ago.


Bullshit.

I have a 720p CRT in my bedroom that has a Samsung Blu-Ray player (2010) connected through component. It works just fine.

The PS3 will not allow you to play Blu-Ray in 1080p without the HDMI cable, period.


Not all upscaling DVD players are created equal. The Playstation 3 has done a pretty nice job for me. I still don't own a dedicated upscaling DVD player since I've been happy with the job the PS3 does.

No amount of upscaling can make MPEG-2 video look better. I've upscaled it with the 360's HD-DVD player, a PS3 and an upscaling DVD player. I've seen them upscaled on CRTs and LCDs. The colors are flat, and the images blocky. Hell, even HD cable has its issues, because of the compression.

[Leo_A]

I have a 720p CRT in my bedroom that has a Samsung Blu-Ray player (2010) connected through component. It works just fine.

Like I said, I wasn't sure.

As for the rest, I don't see why the Blu-Ray Disc Association would allow 720p and 1080i playback via component, but not 1080p. So I logically figured if it could display Blu-Ray video in HD, it could do it in any HD resolution. But I'll take your word for it since like I already stated, my PS3 is hooked up via HDMI.


No amount of upscaling can make MPEG-2 video look better. I've upscaled it with the 360's HD-DVD player, a PS3 and an upscaling DVD player. I've seen them upscaled on CRTs and LCDs. The colors are flat, and the images blocky. Hell, even HD cable has its issues, because of the compression.

It's a subjective thing, but I'm personally happy with how it looks. Usually my biggest problems are issues with the original source itself. I'm mostly interested in classic movies and television. Viewing such material on a HDTV can bring about things like dirt on the transfer into plain view that I don't see so much when viewing such material on my 480i Trinitron.

But when I watch one of my newer movies on DVD, I'm sometimes hard pressed to notice a huge difference. Something like The Day After Tomorrow looks pretty nice on DVD to me (One of at least 3 or 4 modern movies that I own both on DVD and on Blu-Ray).

[Gamevet]

It's a subjective thing, but I'm personally happy with how it looks. Usually my biggest problems are issues with the original source itself. I'm mostly interested in classic movies and television. Viewing such material on a HDTV can bring about things like dirt on the transfer into plain view that I don't see so much when viewing such material on my 480i Trinitron.

But when I watch one of my newer movies on DVD, I'm sometimes hard pressed to notice a huge difference. Something like The Day After Tomorrow looks pretty nice on DVD to me (One of at least 3 or 4 modern movies that I own both on DVD and on Blu-Ray).

I honestly don't see how people don't notice the difference. The skin colors are off and moving objects tend to pixelate, because of the video compression.

I have all of the Star Wars movies on DVD and just recently bought the original trilogy on Blu-Ray; The difference is night and day. I also have seen the first Transformers movie on DVD and then later on HD-DVD; there's no comparing the two. The desert is lifeless on DVD, while you can see the gradiant color changes of the desert sand on HD-DVD. Batman: The Dark Knight is a pixelated mess during the action scenes while viewing on DVD. I noticed the difference on these movies, wether I was watching it on a 32" HD CRT or a 52" 1080p LCD.

I'll watch DVDs, but only if that is the only option for a film, like The King of Kong. Animated films do okay as well, since they aren't as demanding on the format.

Here are a couple of examples, but nowhere near the greatest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT59WxdQjPY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdjY-oSB8os

[BlastProcessing402]

someone already addressed this but I missed it before I posted, so nevermind

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

If your TV and device support it you can get 1080p over component. I've run both my PS3 and 360 through component at 1080p. Granted on PS3 most games don't support 1080p, but they don't support it over HDMI either.

And for the 360, you can also get 1080p over VGA in addition to HDMI and component (assuming your monitor or TV supports that resolution over VGA).

Yeah, I was working from ancient knowledge and outdated technology info.

I see now that modern sets will typically decode 1080p piped through analog components.

[theclaw]

Right. 1080p over VGA worked greatly in 360's favor over PS3 for owners of old displays. Until HD-DVD died...

There were computer CRTs capable of it by exceeding recommended values, back in like 1998. Though tiny pixel size and wrong aspect ratio.