Retro Duo Portable - RDP 2 in 1 Portable System

[Old_Skool_Fool]

First let me start off by saying Happy New Year to all the classic Gurus out there (as I play Frogger on my iPhone). It was a great year for new games getting that "classic gaming overhaul" for the current gen systems.


If you are not aware I started to leak out some details over at Atari Age about the one and only portable that is going to count this year in 2012, and that is the new Retro Duo Portable!

You read, it right! It's in the title it's the RDP. So those looking to keep those classics alive in style can finally get their game on the right way!

The RDP will be the must have oldschool, meets new school console. So this will be the official thread for info, news, reviews (from yours truly) and of course the ability to preorder from our sponsors at a discount.

I will do my best to answer all questions regarding the device and hope to help any that have particular questions that I can answer.

[Tupin]

Wow, this is pretty big news. Is this an official thing from the company that makes it? A little searching turned up this poster:

http://www.dasreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/20111207-142040.jpg

I hope we see some more of it soon...

[TKO]

Hi ! sound very interesting , I've a few questions

- I want to know the retail price

- Which NOAC will be used for RDP?

- Will you please fix the Audio issue? The parts that need to fix it cost less than 1$.

- Will it play the games that detect lockout chip? ( Kirby Superstar ect.)

- Can you make it compatible with NES Powerpak? Well , probably not , but at least I can dream.

[Ace]

- Will you please fix the Audio issue? The parts that need to fix it cost less than 1$.

I was about to ask this too. I can't believe after the RetroDuo console has reached v3.0, RetroBit STILL COULDN'T BE BOTHERED to fix a flaw in the NES audio amp which has been document many times by many people. Seriously, WTF?

But what I'd be curious to know is how in hell RetroBit would be able to make a portable capable of fitting both a Super NES and an NES cartridge.

Still, if this RetroDuo Portable turns out to be just the home console crammed into a portable case, I'm sold. I was about to purchase both the FC Mobile II and the FC16 Go, but if the RetroDuo Portable can do just as much as the FC Mobile II and FC16 Go in an all-in-1 portable, I'm gonna buy the RetroDuo Portable instead.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

Yes, this is an official product that is being made by Retrobit. And yes, it's a totally revised product from the Retro Duo console.

Also, some super sleuth gamer reporting also tells me that the unit will also be compatible with Sega Genesis games via an adapter.

This unit is said to eclipse the Supaboy/FC16/FC Mobile all in one. Everything from design, use-ability, and function make this the must have portable for classic gurus like myself and anyone not looking to contract anyone from the Benheck forums to make one (though I love you guys!)...

[Az]

Also, some super sleuth gamer reporting also tells me that the unit will also be compatible with Sega Genesis games via an adapter.

The Action Gamemaster is being produced?

[TKO]

Yes, this is an official product that is being made by Retrobit. And yes, it's a totally revised product from the Retro Duo console.

Also, some super sleuth gamer reporting also tells me that the unit will also be compatible with Sega Genesis games via an adapter.

This unit is said to eclipse the Supaboy/FC16/FC Mobile all in one. Everything from design, use-ability, and function make this the must have portable for classic gurus like myself and anyone not looking to contract anyone from the Benheck forums to make one (though I love you guys!)...

Well , considering that Genesis Adapter actually has Sega on A Chip inside I don't see why not. It should work with Retro Duo and Retron3 or even FC16 as well. I'll try these FC/Megadrive adapter out one of these day. The only problem is...these adapters are being sold only in Japanese store&website......

[kedawa]

What sort of battery will it use?
I'd really prefer to use AA's, but if it has a built-in battery, then I'd like to know what sort of battery life to expect.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Sounds similar to the PokeFamiDX

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/gm/2011/1104/U4670P115DT20111104112142.jpg

This may be the new rage with multi system clones, throw the system-on-a-chip emulator into an adapter.

The only drawback to that is the tower-of-power/wobble effect.

[Akito01]

Sounds similar to the PokeFamiDX


This may be the new rage with multi system clones, throw the system-on-a-chip emulator into an adapter.

The only drawback to that is the tower-of-power/wobble effect.

The idea of an adapter is really exciting to me, but it clearly is not a sensible solution for portable systems. It's a little hard to imagine a multi-system portable that isn't going to look insane. I thought the Atari-&-NES handheld Ben Heck made is almost elegant, but even then you have a cart sticking out at a ninety degree angle.

At this point, I think my interest in future portables would revolve around systems that haven't been touched on yet, such as the Atari 2600 or PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16. People have been practically begging on AtariAge forever for a portable Atari, and I personally would love to have a portable HuCard player.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

The idea of an adapter is really exciting to me, but it clearly is not a sensible solution for portable systems. It's a little hard to imagine a multi-system portable that isn't going to look insane. I thought the Atari-&-NES handheld Ben Heck made is almost elegant, but even then you have a cart sticking out at a ninety degree angle.

At this point, I think my interest in future portables would revolve around systems that haven't been touched on yet, such as the Atari 2600 or PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16. People have been practically begging on AtariAge forever for a portable Atari, and I personally would love to have a portable HuCard player.

I'd LOVE a 2600 portable with good compatibility.

[old man]

What kind of m/s refresh rate will the screen have. Most portables including newer ones like the DS Lite hurt my eyes because the screens are such low resolution and blurring from slow refresh rates.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

I can honestly say it's not the "PokeFamiDX". Yes, the clones have been all the rage now in portable. However I can say that this is an original product. Unlike the Supaboy or the FC16 which has pretty much had asian versions of themselves before arriving here in the states.


The unit has been heavily refined. A nice comfortable feel is said to be had, and the battery is supposedly a built in rechargeable that far exceeds those of the existing portable clones.

From last received, the built in rechargeable battery power lasts from 6-8 hours!

[MarioMania]

Will they fix the NES audio??

[Old_Skool_Fool]

The Action Gamemaster is being produced?

The Sega Genesis adapter is going to be sold separately for this unit. And it course will be made by Retrobit in the US for the US market.

[Leo_A]

Built in air vents? Just what I always wanted.


The Sega Genesis adapter is going to be sold separately for this unit. And it course will be made by Retrobit in the US for the US market.

Will the adapter only work on this clone? Or can it be used elsewhere such as on a Retro Duo console or even an original Super Nintendo?

[c0ldb33r]

... and I personally would love to have a portable HuCard player.
Turbo Express?
PC Engine GT?

[Akito01]

Turbo Express?
PC Engine GT?

$150-$250?
Bad capacitors?

I know what you're saying, but having seen how crisp and bright the LCD screens are on these modern portables, along with the rechargable batteries and sub $100 price points, I'd actually be happier with a clone.

[Trebuken]

What will the screen size and lighting be like?
Will it output to a TV?

This is usually the make it or break it point for me. Good hardware with a paltry screen is a no go.

[Leo_A]

Will it output to a TV?

The picture in post 2 says it will.

[Tupin]

How exactly do the converters work? Are the consoles on chips inside the adapter, or on the inside of the machine and the adapter only converts it physically?

I understand it's not based on the PokeFamiDX, but how does that use its Mega Drive/Famicom adapters?

[Dr. BaconStein]

This is huge for me, as the RetroDuo was my first clone console back in 2010. I recently got an FC-16 Go and, while great in concept, the execution is not quite as good as I expected. The converter carts sound particularly interesting. I hope this unit will have a nicer look to it than the previous portable SNES clones... The PokeFami looks somewhat attractive, but I always liked the glossy black and red "modern" look for the RetroDuo.

[ncman071]

i noticed the poster says it plays "all" snes games....i hope thats true....i'd love to actually be able to play mario rpg and sfa2 on a decent clone....i also hope it actually looks decent asthetically...and not the cheap plastically crap that is usually put out.

[Trebuken]

The picture in post 2 says it will.

I guess it sorta does. Not accustomed to hearing 'Super-Video Cable'. I always think S-Video.

[MarioMania]

What's the compatibility of the The Action Gamemaster??

Will it run Virtua Racing, Power Base Converter??

Is it going to work on the Retro Duo or even the SNES??

[old man]

lol. I love how they come on the forums to answer questions then don't answer any.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

What's the compatibility of the The Action Gamemaster??

Will it run Virtua Racing, Power Base Converter??

Is it going to work on the Retro Duo or even the SNES??


It's not the Action Gamemaster. The unit is called the Retro Duo Portable. and will have it's own proprietary adapter for the Genesis games. As for compatibility, I can keep you posted once I get my hands on it.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

lol. I love how they come on the forums to answer questions then don't answer any.

What questions am I not answering? My answers are based on tested facts and details that I seek out. Alas, I can only answer so many questions at once as well.

There are also questions that don't pertain to the unit as well, which I can't answer because it's not the item of topic.


All questions will be answered as the guiding light shines down upon them.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

Also, the unit is said to have it's own "Contrast Button". This is something that was unavailable on any previous portable console clones.

[Gameguy]

What questions am I not answering?
There's these, I haven't noticed an answer for any of these questions.


- I want to know the retail price

- Which NOAC will be used for RDP?

- Will you please fix the Audio issue? The parts that need to fix it cost less than 1$.

- Will it play the games that detect lockout chip? ( Kirby Superstar ect.)

- Can you make it compatible with NES Powerpak?


What kind of m/s refresh rate will the screen have.


Will they fix the NES audio??

[MarioMania]

I mean will The Action Gamemaster work with the Retro Duo and the Super NES

Also will The Action Gamemaster work with Virtua Racing, Power Base Converter for Master System Games??

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I'm excited for this, but there's many concerns. A system like this would end up being pretty heavy, and if all existing models of the Retro Duo are any indication, there will be some pretty awful audio distortion on the NES side.

Then there's other concerns:

-Quality of the NOAC

-Size of the dpad/buttons. The FC-16 GO and Supaboy both use oversized buttons for some reason. If this has the same size buttons are the real SNES, you could simply replace the buttons themselves with authentic parts. I know this is a pipe dream but its what I want.

-Size of the screen? Will it be 3.5" or 4"? a nice big screen is a selling point.

-battery life?

-price? I have a feeling this is be rather expensive.

[Gameguy]

-battery life?
That one he did answer, I'll be fair to him and point it out.


The unit has been heavily refined. A nice comfortable feel is said to be had, and the battery is supposedly a built in rechargeable that far exceeds those of the existing portable clones.

From last received, the built in rechargeable battery power lasts from 6-8 hours!

[Old_Skool_Fool]

There's these, I haven't noticed an answer for any of these questions.

So I can clarify, some of these aren't actually questions. They are more requests actually. I can't give definitive answers on things that are requests like, "can you fix the audio issue". Retrobit is about catering as closely as possible to the classic gaming community and are aware of existing issues and definitely listens to the feedback. Heck, I myself give them feedback. Whether or not the feedback is implemented can only be told once the item comes to market and is tested alike.


Also, the unit out the box will play Super Nintendo, and then use an adapter to play NES & Genesis respectively. I would make an educated guess that a form of NOAC has to be used since it's not running off of authentic hardware from 1985.


I have been assured that the unit's compatibility has been refined, as to all the lockout/mode7/etc, games being compatible will be determined as I get the hands on review.


As more information becomes available, you can check this thread or directly on the sites in my signature.

[MarioMania]

Can you find out if the Genesis side of The Action Gamemaster work with the Retro Duo and the Super NES, thanks...

[Old_Skool_Fool]

Can you find out if the Genesis side of The Action Gamemaster work with the Retro Duo and the Super NES, thanks...Sorry, this thread is about the RD Portable. I want to try to keep this on topic as much as possible. If you would like, you can start another thread and when I find out, I will post there.

[MarioMania]

alright, I posted in Frankie's Thread

[Old_Skool_Fool]

It's official, here are a few pics of the new Retro Duo Portable: http://www.dasreviews.com/das-game-news/retro-duo-portable-plays-3-types-games-1/

[Akito01]

Would it be a pointless cheap shot to call this a Retro Uno Portable given that it actually only plays one system. I'm also thinking that the D-pad looks a bit dubious, but I guess the real test could only be hands-on.

I'm happy enough with my SupaBoy not to be that interested in double dipping, but there seems to be a degree of dissatisfaction with Hyperkin in some corners that suggest a market for this thing does exist, even at that premium price point.

What gets me a little excited are these adapter units that are going to be released in support of it. Assuming that these adapters will work on anything that plays SNES carts, and I'm not totally mistaken about how they work, this could be the first opportunity to play NES games in S-video. I guess that would depend on this NES adapter being available separate from the handheld itself.

[shoeshot]

This looks like a PokeFAMI DX with a slightly different case...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31JD8tMwlyL.jpg http://www.dasreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/front_RDP_red_smaller-300x200.jpg
It even uses the same kind of controller adapter...
http://www.dasreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/retro_duo_portable_controller_adapter_small-300x200.jpg
I bet the Genesis and NES adapters are of the same compatibility.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

Would it be a pointless cheap shot to call this a Retro Uno Portable given that it actually only plays one system. I'm also thinking that the D-pad looks a bit dubious, but I guess the real test could only be hands-on.

I'm happy enough with my SupaBoy not to be that interested in double dipping, but there seems to be a degree of dissatisfaction with Hyperkin in some corners that suggest a market for this thing does exist, even at that premium price point.

What gets me a little excited are these adapter units that are going to be released in support of it. Assuming that these adapters will work on anything that plays SNES carts, and I'm not totally mistaken about how they work, this could be the first opportunity to play NES games in S-video. I guess that would depend on this NES adapter being available separate from the handheld itself.


Well, it does play Super Nintendo out the box, and the NES adapter comes with it. Something that is not remotely comparable to the Supaboy. Also, the unit fits in my hands VERY nicely (unlike the super Bulky FC-16GO and the Duper Boy). Not to mention that the battery life is at 8+ hours!!

I felt the directional, and it feels good. I mean, let's look at this.

You get a 2 in 1 out the box portable, controller adapter with ability to use original SNES controllers, (with 2 Player Support) , Stand for the unit, built in 8+ hour battery, 2 controllers, and the option for Genesis games, ...

Oh, and it's a 3.5 Inch screen with contrast options.

It's creatively constructed and pretty solid, in other words..It doesn't feel like cheap Chinese junk like the other portables are.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

I'll have more details tomorrow regarding the unit functionality as well as the Adapter Cartridges.

[MarioMania]

Would the NES and Genesis Adapter for the Retro Duo Portable work with the the SNES

[Cryog]

Retro Duo Portable = PokeFAMI DX US version !!!! LOL

[TKO]

So , have you gotten your hands on the unit or not? I'm so confusing.

You said that the unit fit on your hand very nicely but then you didn't answer about compatibility with certain game. Don't you have Kirby Superstar or some other problematic game to try out? Will you have them for testing tomorrow? LOL

[Satoshi_Matrix]

So you have to put NES games in some sort of cartridge adapter to get them to work? Then, does that mean the NOAC will be inside the adapter itself? Genesis will be the same way I guess. I assume Megadrive games will work as well via some sort of region switch?

If the cloned hardware is just in the adapters, then it should also work on a real SNES, Super Famicom, Retro Duo or any other clone.

Please elaborate on this.

[MarioMania]

So you have to put NES games in some sort of cartridge adapter to get them to work? Then, does that mean the NOAC will be inside the adapter itself? Genesis will be the same way I guess. I assume Megadrive games will work as well via some sort of region switch?

If the cloned hardware is just in the adapters, then it should also work on a real SNES, Super Famicom, Retro Duo or any other clone.

Please elaborate on this.

Test the adapter out if they get the NES or Genesis one's on the Retro Duo and the SNES

[Az]

If the cloned hardware is just in the adapters, then it should also work on a real SNES, Super Famicom, Retro Duo or any other clone.

If you think about it that isn't a big stretch of the imagination. Hardware (both licensed and unlicensed) existed that performed similar functions was produced in past years, only bulkier and buggier. When NOAC technology exists as compact as Onestation carts it would be fairly easy to cram it along with a pin connector into a small shell and rely on the SNES hardware only for the voltage and A/V output.

I think hoping for stuff like support for Virtua Racing, Castlevania III, etc is reaching a bit.

[shoeshot]

Here is a good demonstration video of the PokeFAMI DX (which the Retro Duo Portable seems to be a re-branding of) that was already posted in the Supaboy thread.
At 3:20 the Genesis/MD and the Famicom/NES adapters are shown working on the PokeFami DX and then the Supaboy, notice how the Supaboy doesn't display the gameplay on the screen only through the A/V out of the cartridge adapter itself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXLdSaNptQ0

[leatherrebel5150]

According to an official(?) email someone recieved over at nintendoage you can indeed use the adapters to play on original hardware the link to the thread is:
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=61903

[MarioMania]

I wonder if the Retroport Gen work with Virtua Racing, Super SF2 and the Master System Converters

[TonyTheTiger]

I've never been a fan of clones. I've always been pretty hardcore with authentic hardware if only on the grounds of compatibility (especially with respect to the SNES). I am rarely ever tempted to buy a clone and own not a single one.

There is a good chance that's going to change with this. This is the first time I've seen a clone that's made me actually want it. I can't wait to hear more.

[MarioMania]

Someone do a Video of the RetroGen Port on the SNES...Just want to know about some Games that has trouble running on Genesis Clones..like

Virtua Racing
Super SF2

and try

Game Genie
Power Base Converter/Mega Master/Master Converter 2

[Satoshi_Matrix]

if I'm not totally mistaken about how they work, this could be the first opportunity to play NES games in S-video.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that'll never ever happen. The NES PPU is incapable of S-video. That's something only the Playchoice10 and VS Nintendo Cabs can do when modified to. For an NES to run true S-video, NOAC makers would need to incorporate the RGB PPU from a PC10 and then run duel video cores so it can also display composite video. This is complicated and expensive, and since clone makers are cheap and lazy, you will never see a NOAC with S-video capabilities. Oh sure, there are clones that can display an image through S-video to some tvs, but this is only done by sending a composite signal through the s-video luma line.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

According to an official(?) email someone recieved over at nintendoage you can indeed use the adapters to play on original hardware the link to the thread is:
http://www.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=61903


I just want to clarify that the "Retroport that comes with the RDP". will not play original NES games on anything outside of the RDP consoles. There is a separate version of the Retroport adapter that is being sold for actual use with the Super Nintendo and the retro clones like the Retroduo.

[zin0099]

i was wondering about the retroport adapter for the new retrode2 the snes/genesis to usb device, there is no nes plugin at all there is gbx and n64 but no nes because of the mappers problem would this retroport adapter work on the retrode?

i been talking with the guy through email and he says no only "snes rom" even tho i asked if super gb worked which would be similar to the retroport adapter except it's nes.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

So there'll be two NES to SNES adapters from Retrobit then? I wonder what the difference between the two is. If one will only work ont he RetroDuo Portable, then am I correct in assuming the NOAC will be built into the portable itself and not the adapter? If that's the case, then all the NES adapter would be is a simple pin adapter.

When can we expect some hands on info of the system? I'm worried about many things such as if the horrible NES audio returns (c'mon, it takes only a few cheap parts to build an audio dampener to fix this) and of course, compatibility with games like Castlevania 3, Paperboy and Rolling Thunder and the NES Powerpak. There are clones that'll run the Powerpak such as the Famulator. I have high hopes for the RDP.

As far the Retrode,
I severely doubt it. Those devices read and compile SNES ROMs which are very different from NES and Genesis. Even with a pin adapter, its highly unlikely such devices would be able to make heads or tails of anything other than what they're made to read.

[Old_Skool_Fool]

Ok, everyone. The first official review has been posted. I also have gotten word that the initial release will be very limited, so Preorders have started for the unit as of this post. You can preorder both the RDP Matte Black (http://www.dascheap.com/retro-duo-portable-black.html) & the Retro Duo Portable Red (http://www.dascheap.com/rd-portable-matte-red-retroduo-portable.html).

Right now for a limited time, if you watch the first video review, you will get a special discount code for Free Shipping on the unit (Sorry it only applies to US Residents). Just heed once again, that once they sell out, they will be out for a very good while.

The ship date is estimated at Beginning/Mid February.


Well, I'm off to CES, and I'll try to answer any questions if I have the answers, during the times that I'm not fielding the show.

[Cryog]

Thanks for the review !!!! But, why Spy Hunter ???? Try Castlevania III !!!!

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Yes, by all means, PLEASE let us know of Castlevania 3 works.

I also am wondering if the Retro Duo Portable has the SNES guidance tabs. if it does, then Super Famicom games won't fit. The camera almost showed the cart slot, but not enough to see for sure. Please let us know if Super Famicom games fit inside the RDP.

[JSnake]

Ok, everyone. The first official review has been posted. I also have gotten word that the initial release will be very limited, so Preorders have started for the unit as of this post. You can preorder both the RDP Matte Black (http://www.dascheap.com/retro-duo-portable-black.html) & the Retro Duo Portable Red (http://www.dascheap.com/rd-portable-matte-red-retroduo-portable.html).

Right now for a limited time, if you watch the first video review, you will get a special discount code for Free Shipping on the unit (Sorry it only applies to US Residents). Just heed once again, that once they sell out, they will be out for a very good while.

The ship date is estimated at Beginning/Mid February.


Well, I'm off to CES, and I'll try to answer any questions if I have the answers, during the times that I'm not fielding the show.

Where was the review posted? If it's meant to show up in your post, I'm not seeing it.

[Cryog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkWGDWZCGm0

[StealthLurker]

If this retro-adapter thing works (high compatibility, sound, video, colors, etc etc) ....

Then it's an easy, "inexpensive" way to play NES games in s-video or RGB via the SNES' video capabilities right??!!


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[Old_Skool_Fool]

Yes, by all means, PLEASE let us know of Castlevania 3 works.

I also am wondering if the Retro Duo Portable has the SNES guidance tabs. if it does, then Super Famicom games won't fit. The camera almost showed the cart slot, but not enough to see for sure. Please let us know if Super Famicom games fit inside the RDP.

Yes, Super Famicom games will work, as well as PAL. However we currently only tested 1 PAL game. And we also tested Star Ocean, and it worked.

[Akito01]

If this retro-adapter thing works (high compatibility, sound, video, colors, etc etc) ....

Then it's an easy, "inexpensive" way to play NES games in s-video or RGB via the SNES' video capabilities right??!!


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That's what I thought, but I guess it turns out this isn't the case? I think because I haven't personally seen them or had any hands-on time with them, I'm at a disadvantage to speak. In looking at some of the images and promotional material for the separately available adapters already available in Japan, they all seem to include their own A/V cables, which implies that while they use the console they are plugged into for power and controller input, they don't use the console's A/V output. Honestly, though, I am a bit confused.

[zin0099]

cool i thought starocean would work cuss it worked in both my retroduo 2.0 and retron3

[Cryog]

New video of the pokeFAMI DX / Retro Duo Portable .... sorry, but is the same thing !!!!

pokeFAMI DX 動作テスト＆Supaboy比較

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xz66T_I0Lk

[TonyTheTiger]

sorry, but is the same thing !!!!

How so? And, if that were to be the case, does that mean it's flawed in some way?

[Cryog]

I can honestly say it's not the "PokeFamiDX". Yes, the clones have been all the rage now in portable. However I can say that this is an original product. Unlike the Supaboy or the FC16 which has pretty much had asian versions of themselves before arriving here in the states.



Now you understand my comment? But do not misunderstand me. I want this console.

[TonyTheTiger]

No, I don't. He says it's not the same as the PokeFamiDX and you just said it is. Are you saying it's the same internals in a new shell?

[Satoshi_Matrix]

If this retro-adapter thing works (high compatibility, sound, video, colors, etc etc) ....

Then it's an easy, "inexpensive" way to play NES games in s-video or RGB via the SNES' video capabilities right??!!
.

Sadly, no. Again, NOACs are incapable of S-video or RGB. Even using the SNES as a passthrough, the most you'll get is composite. An s-video ready NES would take quite some doing, which no clone maker will ever do as it'd be complicated and expensive. Those who make clones like easy and cheap.

[Cryog]

No, I don't. He says it's not the same as the PokeFamiDX and you just said it is. Are you saying it's the same internals in a new shell?

Yes, they have the same internals circuits in a different shell. The Retro Duo Portable is the american version of the pokeFAMI DX.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dEAeGTTRDXQ/TFOUQyRnlVI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/FNA8cDIWods/s1600/IMG_5234.JPG

Super Famicom and the Super NES .... same machine, different shell. The same example.

[Tupin]

What about the AV Out? Do you have to plug the cable into the adapter rather than the system like the PokeFamiDX when you use the NES/Genesis adapters?

[TonyTheTiger]

Yes, they have the same internals circuits in a different shell. The Retro Duo Portable is the american version of the pokeFAMI DX.

Then I'm going to ask if he can clarify what he means when he says it isn't the same thing.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Yes. I have my doubts as well that the RetroDuo Portable and the PokeFami DX aren't related. If they aren't, that actually worries me seeing as how the PokeFami DX looks to be pretty excellent.