Playstation Vita

[dairugger]

Well ive had mine for a few days now and have come away thoroughly impressed. I loved my psp and the vita just blows it out of the water. currently i have rayman origins, uncharted, and marvel vs capcom 3.

does anyone else have theirs yet? and if so what are you playing and what do you think of it?

[RPG_Fanatic]

I've had mine for over a month (bought the Japanese WiFi one) and love it. I mostly play Hot shots Golf right now but I also have -

Ridge Racer (JP)
Hot Shots Golf (JP & US)
Uncharted (JP)
Wipeout (US)
Little Deviants (US)

[Graham Mitchell]

I don't have my machine yet, but I've got wipeout, and I've been notified that Touch My Katamari is available for pickup today.

How's Rayman? And, more importantly, how's the online features? Can you download PSP games on it?


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[DreadIsReal]

I got mine last week. It's an amazing machine. Love the feel of it and look. I think people with bigger hands may have an issue gripping the back since the you aren't really suppose to touch the touch panel all the time. I picked up Uncharted, Little Deviants, ModNation, Katamari, and Hot Shots. I am really enjoying all the games but Uncharted is the cream of the crop. It's addicting and fun, and just a great game. Looking to get Rayman soon as it is a fantastic game as well.

[Oldskool]

Is the screen any better quality than say the 3000 or Go?

Looks like a nice little handheld. Hopefully they get emulation figured out on it soon. Or at least a way to boot into PSP mode so that you can run the emulators that it's already got.

[Gamereviewgod]

You know Billy Madison? When Sandler gets all excited for nudie magazine day?

That's me right now, but instead, it's new game console day.

The wait is always the worst part for new hardware. I get all jittery. I have Uncharted already and I'm waiting on Target to put out the rest of the launch day stuff, or Amazon to include them in the B2G1 sales. Wanted Hot Shots and Wipeout but won't do it because they include online passes. I'll probably snag Dynasty Warriors, Lumines, and Marvel/Capcom in the end. GameFly has Army Corps of Hell on the way to me now as well.

[Gamereviewgod]

Is the screen any better quality than say the 3000 or Go?

Looks like a nice little handheld. Hopefully they get emulation figured out on it soon. Or at least a way to boot into PSP mode so that you can run the emulators that it's already got.

The screen is miles ahead of the interlaced mess that is the 3000. Can't speak for the Go.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Mad Catz or someone release an UMD drive attachment down the line. It would be a battery killer, but the benefits would outweigh the negative.

[otaku]

while the hardware is amazing (although the issues such as updates bricking some) worries me the cost is also high especially with those damn memory cards of sony's/ So likely I will buy a 3DS first. that said I loved psp and I want one of these eventually.

[Tupin]

I'm just amazed that they are already selling games, and have been for a week. I'll probably end up getting one, probably after the first price drop.

It looks really, really promising. Then again, that's what people said about the PSP, and I found nothing to play on that for years.

[Gamereviewgod]

I'm just amazed that they are already selling games, and have been for a week.


First edition bundles came out last week. The full launch is Wed.

[retroman]

I am getting one for sure...Love my PsP, and cant wait to get the Vita

[Ryudo]

I'm getting Ys IV as soon as it comes out but the PSV I will wait for the PSV slim

[Leo_A]

I can't imagine it ever getting a UMD drive attachment. Too cumbersome and too limited of a market for Sony to bother with (If it's even practical to start with from a technical point of view). Much of the world has left the PSP behind and many of the most popular games are available as downloads to satsify those with an interest in playing PSP software on their Vita.

I suppose the only thing that might change that situation is Japan where the PSP is still popular.

[WCP]

quick question for Vita owners. Are there any Vita demos that you can download ?

[dairugger]

quick question for Vita owners. Are there any Vita demos that you can download ?

yes there are. as far as i know theres a demo for rayman origins, and uncharted i think.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Had some Best Buy cards from X-Mas floating around and when I saw that it was free standard shipping online via Best Buy's site I went that route today.

Should be in my hands by the 29th at the latest.

Looking forward to adding yet another portable into my current 3DS/iPad/PSPGo rotation. When Sony gets their compatible PSP/PS1 download library for Vita up to speed I'll probably be able to put my Go into storage.

[RCM]

I love the Vita hardware and can't say enough good about it. It's extremely refreshing to see a traditional console maker deliver a handheld unit with no obvious flaws. Even if they do deliver an updated/improved version a year or two down the line I wouldn't feel like a jackass earlier adopter, if that makes sense within the context of handhelds.

I unfortunately can wait to buy this due to the batshit crazy cost and lack of compelling original software. I like Rayman Origins as much as the next person, but I have it on 360. I know I can't take the 360 version anywhere, but the chances of me bringing that big, beautiful handheld everywhere I go is slim to none at best.

Still, Vita rocks and I really hope developers get a chance to exploit its possibilities.

[kaedesdisciple]

At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, does or will this thing feature some kind of e-reader? Sony has been in that market for some time and, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the screen type, size and resolution would at least somewhat lend itself to reading.

Been debating my next tech purchase for some time now, and this is one of my deciding factors.

[Bojay1997]

At the risk of sounding completely ignorant, does or will this thing feature some kind of e-reader? Sony has been in that market for some time and, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the screen type, size and resolution would at least somewhat lend itself to reading.

Been debating my next tech purchase for some time now, and this is one of my deciding factors.

Nothing announced and frankly, I think it's not likely to happen given the screen format which isn't really in compliance with most e-reader screen layouts. There were some hacks for the PSP that allowed people to use them as e-readers, but nothing official and frankly, Sony seems to be slowly exiting the e-reader business, so I doubt they are going to put any resources into what would be a very niche application. Why not just buy a Kindle? It's like 1/3 the price?

[Tupin]

Yeah, Kindles are so cheap that they're basically advertising that you should just buy all of them. It's still cheaper than an iPad.

I wouldn't want to read for an extended period on a screen that isn't e-ink. I haven't played the Vita yet. Maybe they'll have demo units soon?

[The 1 2 P]

I finally got to play one today at Best Buy. The touch screen is very responsive and the visuals are nice. Uncharted is the only thing I played longer than a minute and it looks gorgeous on that small screen. Sony did a nice job on this handheld. Not $300 nice but still a cool little piece of tech. It's getting pretty good reviews so far and I'm interested in seeing how it performs for it's first two months.

[WCP]

Not $300 nice but still a cool little piece of tech. .

Yeah, the Vita is very tempting, but not $300 tempting. If you really look at things honestly, it's a pretty freaking expensive proposition to get a launch Vita. You figure you need about 4 games, the system itself, a memory card, and some kind of case (most likely a hard case if you really want to take care of it).


If they still had that one bundle at Amazon, where you got the 3G Vita and an 8 meg memory card for $300, that's the one that I would get. I wouldn't pay any tax, so that would be nice. I'm not sure if that bundle included any games at all, but I can say that Super Stardust Delta and Wipeout would probably be two of the must have games. Stardust is only $10, so that's a relief, and Amazon had Wipeout for $29.99. Rayman is getting rave reviews, but I wasn't really into the console version (rented it, and it was ok), and the console version is only $19.99. Paying double for the Vita version hurts. I might like Fifa. But $39.99 for a Fifa game that is really based on Fifa 11 and not Fifa 12 ? Not so sure about that.

My biggest problem is that the whole Vita ecosystem is just too damned expensive. Sure, Super Stardust being only $9.99 is nice, but I could easily see spending over $400 total to get everything I would need. That's a bunch of dough for a portable, no matter how next-gen it might be. I'll have to wait for some price drops on the hardware and software before I can even think about it.

[Bojay1997]

Yeah, the Vita is very tempting, but not $300 tempting. If you really look at things honestly, it's a pretty freaking expensive proposition to get a launch Vita. You figure you need about 4 games, the system itself, a memory card, and some kind of case (most likely a hard case if you really want to take care of it).


If they still had that one bundle at Amazon, where you got the 3G Vita and an 8 meg memory card for $300, that's the one that I would get. I wouldn't pay any tax, so that would be nice. I'm not sure if that bundle included any games at all, but I can say that Super Stardust Delta and Wipeout would probably be two of the must have games. Stardust is only $10, so that's a relief, and Amazon had Wipeout for $29.99. Rayman is getting rave reviews, but I wasn't really into the console version (rented it, and it was ok), and the console version is only $19.99. Paying double for the Vita version hurts. I might like Fifa. But $39.99 for a Fifa game that is really based on Fifa 11 and not Fifa 12 ? Not so sure about that.

My biggest problem is that the whole Vita ecosystem is just too damned expensive. Sure, Super Stardust being only $9.99 is nice, but I could easily see spending over $400 total to get everything I would need. That's a bunch of dough for a portable, no matter how next-gen it might be. I'll have to wait for some price drops on the hardware and software before I can even think about it.

I don't know, I got the Wi-Fi for $249 at Amazon, they threw in a 4 gig memory card which is all I need since I'm only buying retail games, and gave me a $20 credit toward the purchase of Vita games and accessories. I ended up buying six launch titles which cost me $130 with their B2G1 and $20 credit which is about $23 each which seemed pretty fair to me considering I got Uncharted, Wipeout and several other great titles. Yes, it's a little expensive, but either retailers or Sony or both are starting to get the message that people like myself who are early adopters but aren't willing to spend whatever it takes can be convinced to leap if you give us enough incentives. $380 for a very sophisticated handheld, memory card and six games worked for me.

[kupomogli]

If they still had that one bundle at Amazon, where you got the 3G Vita and an 8 meg memory card for $300, that's the one that I would get.

Currently, 3G models are including 8GB memory, PSN game, and a month of 3G. Pretty worthless though as right now 3G is unable to play online. You may as well just have a cell phone with wifi tethering and using your wifi to use your phone data.


My biggest problem is that the whole Vita ecosystem is just too damned expensive. Sure, Super Stardust being only $9.99 is nice, but I could easily see spending over $400 total to get everything I would need.

Amazon is currently matching the 4GB memory card that Target is offering. Vita with wifi and 4GB for $250, Uncharted $50, Little Deviants for $30, and the free game I received, Modnation Racers. So $330 with three games and a 4GB memory card.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Stopped by Target at lunch to pick up some games and all they had was FIFA and Hot Shots Golf.

I guess the B2G1 was a wild success, so much so that I grabbed a circular and headed over the Best Buy for a price match only to discover that there was no need for that as they actually made B2G1 an in-store offer for all Vita software.

So, yeah, you can walk into a Best Buy and get B2G1 on Vita software, it should just ring like that.

Grabbed Uncharted, Marvel Vs. Capcom and, despite my anger at it not having online multi-player at launch Mod Nation Racers with the longing and hope that the developer adds or sells an online multiplayer at a later date.

I couldn't fight that I just love that damned series too much to pass on it.

[sonicteam]

love the vita, picked mine up yesterday, got little diviants with it and an 8gb memory , so far its great , waiting for little big planet now in april

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

love the vita, picked mine up yesterday, got little diviants with it and an 8gb memory , so far its great , waiting for little big planet now in april

Bring yours to NAVA!

[sonicteam]

Bring yours to NAVA!

will do , im sure chris k will have his as well

[Press_Start]

So, yeah, you can walk into a Best Buy and get B2G1 on Vita software, it should just ring like that.

Grabbed Uncharted, Marvel Vs. Capcom and, despite my anger at it not having online multi-player at launch Mod Nation Racers with the longing and hope that the developer adds or sells an online multiplayer at a later date.

Didn't know Best Buy was doing B2G1 too, then again, when has a company ever started a hardware launch w/B2G1 widespread sale on games? Has it happened before?

Anyway, according to my super calculations, Uncharted, MvC3, and Mod Nation Racers with sale is $30 a pop +tax, a price many have cried for and Sony gladly delivered for their early-adoptor fanbase. A price cut would keep the momentum going and depending on what's shown in E3, Vita could really give 3DS a run for its money come Christmas.

[Eternal Tune]

Mine came today from Amazon. About time, Uncharted has been sitting here crying.

[substantial_snake]

I just got mine today and its pretty sweet. :)

Cons:
-TOUCH TO ACCESS EVERYTHING UI is annoying for a device touted for its physical controls, probably be downplayed later though
-Analog Sticks do not retract so you will need a case if your throwing it in a bag
-Analog Sticks are a bit small surface area wise
-Rear touch heavy games will cause those with big hands to adopt a new "claw" to avoid unwanted inputs

Pros:
-Buttons are all really nice and have a satisfying click to them
-Screen is both huge and gorgeous
-Analog sticks work well and feel great with rubberish tops
-Welcome Park actually a fun set of minigames to introduce you to the consoles features

Meh:
-Near's constantly updating personal GPS coordinates tickles the paranoid side of my brain
-The browser is functional with what little I played with it, nothing special
-I wish the game came with an real manual rather then having to use Sony's online manual browser thing.

So does anyone know what the top port is next to the vita gamecard slot?

Is there a way for me to transfer my PSP games that are compatible from my current PSP to the Vita without using another download copy?

[Eternal Tune]

So does anyone know what the top port is next to the vita gamecard slot?



I tried to stick the memory card in there originally. Heh, wrong hole.

Cons: Fingerprint magnet. Jesus Christ, the anal bastard in me cries worst then with the ipad.

I only got Uncharted Golden Abyss. I probably would have waited on the system, but alas, I'm a huge Uncharted fan.
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[Gamereviewgod]

Finished Uncharted about an hour ago. I think this sums it up (from my review):

So much of Golden Abyss is, “Hey, look what your system can do with these functions!” rather than, “Stare in awe at what the system can do technologically!”

It's fun, sure, but I was sooo tired of dusting off objects and making charcoal prints. I know it's a launch thing, but I fear devs feeling they have to use everything because it's there. That's what I hated about the DS early on. Everything used the touch screen whether it needed to or not.

That said, loving the hardware otherwise. The screen melts my videophile heart, like how easy it is to update software, and buttons/sticks are great.

I will second that they need to add button functionality to the main menu. The "all touch" is not cool.

Edit: Also, as a reviewer, the screen shot feature is a god send. Press the PS button and hold it while pressing start. Flawless integration.

[Griking]

I've had mine for over a month (bought the Japanese WiFi one) and love it. I mostly play Hot shots Golf right now but I also have -

Ridge Racer (JP)
Hot Shots Golf (JP & US)
Uncharted (JP)
Wipeout (US)
Little Deviants (US)


Other than graphics Are these games any different than the ones that have been out for (in some cases) years now?

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Fucking digging it, but man, I can't wait for Sony to ramp up the compatibility.

Out of the ZILLIONS of Minis and downloadable PSP games that I own on the PSN only a few (six or seven) are available at launch. I know that they're going to expand that in the future up to and including PS1 games, but for now I'm going to say I'm impatient.

Also, unlike the PSP which is more seamlessly recognized/integrated into the PS3 in a plug-play kind of way, the Vita seems to need to do all the file management via its on-board content manager app, which is fine, but just a bit annoying when its USB cord is like 3 feet long and I'm sitting 5-6 feet away from my PS3.

Also, a lot of compatible stuff won't let you download it from the "download history" list but you can download it just fine from the Vita's PSN store. Odd.

I spent so much time with the setup, exploring the onboard features/content and downloading the games that I could that I haven't really had a chance to play with the Vita games I bought. I'll do some of that tomorrow. But man, I'll say this the MINI Burnin' Rubber (Bump & Jump) looks and plays great on the OLED screen! ;)

So far, Vita seems awesome. Other than slightly wonky UI and download/copy options, everything was a breeze. Now it's time for bed.

[kupomogli]

From what this article states, there are a lot of things that aren't on the Vita store that CAN be played on the Vita. You need to download them to the PS3 under the regular mini's and PSP downloads and then transfer them to the Vita that way as they're not officially supported and under the Vita moniker. Supposedly a lot of the stuff works this way.

http://www.cnet.com.au/psp-games-that-secretly-run-on-the-vita-all-you-need-is-a-ps3-339332278.htm

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

From what this article states, there are a lot of things that aren't on the Vita store that CAN be played on the Vita. You need to download them to the PS3 under the regular mini's and PSP downloads and then transfer them to the Vita that way as they're not officially supported and under the Vita moniker. Supposedly a lot of the stuff works this way.

http://www.cnet.com.au/psp-games-that-secretly-run-on-the-vita-all-you-need-is-a-ps3-339332278.htm

Fucking SWEEEEEET brother.

Echochrome and Capcom Classics! Two of the games that I WANTED to transfer but weren't on the list work apparently. Gonna go do that right stat.

Thanks man.

[Nionel]

I picked up my Vita yesterday after work along with Uncharted, Touch My Katamari, and BlazBlue Continuum Shift Extend. I played it for a couple hours last night and again today after work and I have to say that I love the hardware, the screen is gorgeous, the unit feels really comfortable to play, even for extended periods of time, and honestly the games feel more of a console gaming experience than a handheld gaming experience, at least to me. I was a bit reluctant to pick up the Vita, but honestly I'm glad I decided to take the plunge, this is the first game system I've even owned on day one and I have a feeling it's going to be one I'm happy with for some time to come.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Other than graphics Are these games any different than the ones that have been out for (in some cases) years now?

Yes, they're all new/original games in their respective series, though from what I understand Ridge Racer only contains three classic tracks and allows for the user to purchase additional tracks via DLC. I believe that the US release is getting retooled with more tracks and original content.

[duffmanth]

I'll probably pick one up after there's either a price drop and/or a Metal Gear or Gran Turismo game released for it.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Can't wait for somebody to compile a list of PSP/Minis OUTSIDE OF Sony's official launch list/what is available on the Vita PSN store that work via PS3 download and transfer.

I'm sure there's a shit ton more than I own that will transfer over ... I just want to know before I go through the trouble of downloading them all to my PS3 to test. (Though I probably will do that over the weekend).

I can report that both Capcom Classics titles, and the PSP versions of Echochrome and Flow work fine on Vita when downloaded to and transferred over via PS3.

[duffmanth]

Can't wait for somebody to compile a list of PSP/Minis OUTSIDE OF Sony's official launch list/what is available on the Vita PSN store that work via PS3 download and transfer.

I'm sure there's a shit ton more than I own that will transfer over ... I just want to know before I go through the trouble of downloading them all to my PS3 to test. (Though I probably will do that over the weekend).

I can report that both Capcom Classics titles, and the PSP versions of Echochrome and Flow work fine on Vita when downloaded to and transferred over via PS3.

I hope the flood gates open for PSone classics to come to Vita.

[substantial_snake]

^^ Me too, taking Xenogears on the go with a screen this nice would be awesome.

Apparently the slot next to the game card slot is an accessory port. It looks like one of those "If we build something for it later" ports that are sometimes used and sometimes not although hopefully we'll eventually get a Video Out cable to go with it.


Cons: Fingerprint magnet. Jesus Christ, the anal bastard in me cries worst then with the ipad.


I hear you on that, should of put that in the meh category. I hate how every other new gadget insists on being glossy but on the vita its really gorgeous..even if it does get finger prints from just looking at the thing. lol I suggest getting one of those little cellphone cleaner straps and tie it through one of the bottom loops of the system. I had one from an old Peace Walker accessory set and it really helps with the constant smudges.

[RPG_Fanatic]

I hope the flood gates open for PSone classics to come to Vita.

I hope PSone games are soon compatible with the Vita I want to play Final Fantasy VII on that screen!!!!!!

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

WOWEEEWOWOW

I'm not sure if its the Vita's OS, network code or the extra processing power/memory but remote play on it's highest resolution plays with less lag than a PSP on its lowest.

With the resolution on standard or -1 I can actually play Street Fighter Alpha 3 for PS1 with practically no lag (or a very very tolerable amount).

Sadly it looks like only PS1 games (either disc based or on the XMB) seem to play via Remote Play at the moment.

Also, unrelated to remote play:

Mod Nation Racers Road Trip, IF you're a fan of the series isn't at all as bad as the reviews have let on. The touch-screen creation tools are fantastic and you can download any Mod or Kart that is in the PS3 database. Really the only strike I can give it is that it has no online and no voice-over announcers, and I have faith that we'll get some form of online in the future.

[Graham Mitchell]

So, I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought the 3G system would allow you to play online without being connected to a wifi. Imagine my surprise when I found out that wasnt true.

Word of advice to those who haven't bought one yet: don't get a 3G model.

Okay, I'm bracing for the insults. It's okay, I deserve it: :)

Other than that, the system is pretty sweet. Wipeout basically looks like a ps3 game with a slightly lower frame rate. It's pretty impressive to see on a handheld. And yes, the screen is awesome. Psp games look great on it...better than a psp 2000 connected to a tv.
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[Frankie_Says_Relax]

So, I'm embarrassed to admit that I thought the 3G system would allow you to play online without being connected to a wifi. Imagine my surprise when I found out that wasnt true.

Word of advice to those who haven't bought one yet: don't get a 3G model.

Okay, I'm bracing for the insults. It's okay, I deserve it: :)

Other than that, the system is pretty sweet. Wipeout basically looks like a ps3 game with a slightly lower frame rate. It's pretty impressive to see on a handheld. And yes, the screen is awesome. Psp games look great on it...better than a psp 2000 connected to a tv.
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Eh, don't feel bad, easy mistake to make, and they MAY have some apps or DLC games that use the feature for gaming in the future.

So, I did some testing and out of the 20+ Minis I downloaded to my PS3, only the ones that are listed on the Vita's PSN Store transfer over.

So, there seems to be more PSP software that is NOT on the Vita's PSN Store that transfer over via PS3 with no problem. Those are games that likely run but haven't been QA tested by whatever standards need to be done to sell them on Vita.

Also, people looking for some good, cheap pick-up & play/arcade PSP games on Vita:

Capcom Classics Remixed
Capcom Classics ReLoaded
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
Power Stone Collection
Darkstalkers Chaos Tower

are all $9.99 each. (though you'll need to transfer Capcom Classics via the PS3)

[BetaWolf47]

Will probably get a PSV-2000 or PSV-3000 when they come out. I've fallen in love with the system since I first played it at Best Buy. It seems like that system was built completely for my tastes. Love how good the controls are.

[Graham Mitchell]

Eh, don't feel bad, easy mistake to make, and they MAY have some apps or DLC games that use the feature for gaming in the future.

So, I did some testing and out of the 20+ Minis I downloaded to my PS3, only the ones that are listed on the Vita's PSN Store transfer over.

So, there seems to be more PSP software that is NOT on the Vita's PSN Store that transfer over via PS3 with no problem. Those are games that likely run but haven't been QA tested by whatever standards need to be done to sell them on Vita.

Also, people looking for some good, cheap pick-up & play/arcade PSP games on Vita:

Capcom Classics Remixed
Capcom Classics ReLoaded
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
Power Stone Collection
Darkstalkers Chaos Tower

are all $9.99 each. (though you'll need to transfer Capcom Classics via the PS3)

Thanks for sharing that! Ive got some of those, I'll give it a shot.


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[kupomogli]

Okay, so I've had my first chance to play one. Mine is still in the mail from Amazon so I've played my friends.

Aside from the OS which I'm not really much of a fan of, I think the system is amazing. It feels as if certain aspects aren't designed as well as they should be, an example being that the multiple set up options that are available could have all been under a single icon. Press down on the screen while playing a PSP game to receive PSP settings, hold the home button to get other settings, etc. Those could be shortcuts, sure, but why leave it as the only way to get to the options.

So when trying it out, he didn't purchase any games with it, so I just tried LBP PSP. While my opinion of the OS may not have been favorable, the controls themselves were more than satisfactory. I'll go so far as to say it might actually win over the GBA as most comfortable control set up. The L and R buttons of the Vita are the same as those on the PSP Go, something I'm sure many people that played the Go hoped would have happened. The analog sticks are extremely well done, not as tight as the PS3 sticks, but still have a solid feel to them. I thought that the face buttons being so small would bother me, but really had no problem using them.

Now I'm just waiting to receive my Vita. I held off on trying the Uncharted demo because I want to just jump right in on the full game instead.

[substantial_snake]

Eh, don't feel bad, easy mistake to make, and they MAY have some apps or DLC games that use the feature for gaming in the future.

So, I did some testing and out of the 20+ Minis I downloaded to my PS3, only the ones that are listed on the Vita's PSN Store transfer over.

So, there seems to be more PSP software that is NOT on the Vita's PSN Store that transfer over via PS3 with no problem. Those are games that likely run but haven't been QA tested by whatever standards need to be done to sell them on Vita.

Also, people looking for some good, cheap pick-up & play/arcade PSP games on Vita:

Capcom Classics Remixed
Capcom Classics ReLoaded
Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max
Power Stone Collection
Darkstalkers Chaos Tower

are all $9.99 each. (though you'll need to transfer Capcom Classics via the PS3)

Don't forget Metal Slug Anthology, its a more expensive at 20 dollars but you get 7 games. One of my most played psp games and downloads directly to the vita.

[Tupin]

I played one for the first time today at Best Buy, and it sure is impressive. It feels just like I'm playing a console game, the screen is amazing. Unfortunately, this includes load time. I like the looks of the boxes too, very efficient.

The only other problem I had was using the physical controls when I should have used the touch screen and vice versa. I thought it was frozen until I realized you had to tap it.

I'll probably pick one up in a couple of months, but I hope it doesn't become I dumping ground for PS3 ports like the PSP was for PS2 ports. Of course the launch wasn't free of Gameloft and Ubisoft crap, just like the 3DS, PSP, and DS...

[WCP]

I saw a real Vita for the first time in my life last night at Best Buy. Here were my impressions:


1. Screen - Honestly, I've listened to so many podcasts with people talking about how the screen is so drop dead gorgeous, that I guess I was expecting too much, because the screen didn't blow me away like I thought it would. Sure, it's a big ass screen for a handheld, and it's clear and crisp, but it's not as amazing as everybody seems to be saying, either that, or the lighting conditions in the Best Buy made it seem less than amazing.

2. Size - It's not as big as I was expecting. At least, I think when you take that anti-theft device that Best Buy has hooked onto it, if you take that off, I'm guessing it's not really that much bigger than a PSP.

3. Shoulder Buttons - Man, I wish they would dump their shoulder button design. Not comfortable at all.

4. Regular buttons - While tiny, they seemed to work ok.

5. Thumbsticks - Man, these are some tiny little thumbsticks. I hope some aftermarket extenders come out, to give it a little more feel. I heard the aiming in Uncharted is pretty bad because of the limited range of the thumbstick.

6. Games - Played Uncharted for about a minute, played Wipeout for about a minute. Saw little Deviants for a short period. Saw Fifa for a short period. Basically, I thought the graphics were pretty amazing on EVERYTHING. The loading time in Wipeout is Redonkulous. They have to do something about those loading times. Uncharted was a graphical standout. The scenery in Wipeout, and the tracks themselves look very nice. Little Deviants looked decent, but I've heard the game is garbage.


Honestly, I couldn't play the thing too long because a bunch of people were waiting for me to get done with it. So, it wasn't a fair evaluation. For me personally, I'm going to have to pass on it, because I just can't justify spending console money on a handheld. Not that it isn't worth it. For somebody that uses a handheld frequently, it's a must own device. No question. I very rarely use handhelds, so I tend to wait a long time. I need to wait on the software as well. Wait till the prices come down.

I can guarantee you this though.... If I was going on a 4 day vacation, and wanted to bring a small device along, it would be the Vita, without question. I wish I could just rent the thing for a few days, heh..

[Gamereviewgod]

5. Thumbsticks - Man, these are some tiny little thumbsticks. I hope some aftermarket extenders come out, to give it a little more feel. I heard the aiming in Uncharted is pretty bad because of the limited range of the thumbstick.

Uncharted's aiming is no fault of the sticks. It's coding. Unit 13, for example, controls fine. But yes, it's an adjustment to move to Vita sticks and back again to consoles.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

5. Thumbsticks - Man, these are some tiny little thumbsticks. I hope some aftermarket extenders come out, to give it a little more feel. I heard the aiming in Uncharted is pretty bad because of the limited range of the thumbstick.

You can adjust the sensitivity on Uncharted.

It is too high by default, but turn the speed down by about 1/4 total and it's fine. Also helps to turn off the tilt mechanism aiming which is on by default and can interfere with accuracy if you're moving around while you play.

[substantial_snake]

Uncharted's aiming is no fault of the sticks. It's coding. Unit 13, for example, controls fine. But yes, it's an adjustment to move to Vita sticks and back again to consoles.

I definitely agree with this, while Unit 13's shooting controls felt tight and focused Uncharted's are kinda meh. I didn't like the SixAxis aiming controls either in Uncharted but it seems to be popular with a lot of people.

[WCP]

I wonder if anybody has done a Vita tear down video, where they take the thing apart piece by piece. Then we can know if thumbstick extenders are even possible.

[dairugger]

i know ifixit or fix it yourself .com (?) has done a tear down, apparently everythings modular and it was said changing the battery yourself was super easy.

[tfrank]

i am planning to get one, ive heard good things about it. does anyone know if they will release any ps2 games to download in the store?

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

i am planning to get one, ive heard good things about it. does anyone know if they will release any ps2 games to download in the store?

No word, though it's entirely possible for them to emulate the hardware/software.

[Trumpman]

I don't really know why, but I've totally lost interest in portable gaming these days. Maybe it's because I'm spoiled by my giant TV screen or that my iPhone has taken over as an ersatz Game Boy (with amazing graphics, see Infinity Blade 2). I also don't really have any friends who have handheld devices to play against (as opposed to my 360, where I'm always talking to one friend or another). Anyway, even though the Vita seems like a great machine, I can't really see myself buying one anytime soon.

It wouldn't surprise me if sales for both the 3DS and the Vita are slow, because I think I'm not the only one with these views.

[WCP]

I don't really know why, but I've totally lost interest in portable gaming these days. Maybe it's because I'm spoiled by my giant TV screen or that my iPhone has taken over as an ersatz Game Boy (with amazing graphics, see Infinity Blade 2). I also don't really have any friends who have handheld devices to play against (as opposed to my 360, where I'm always talking to one friend or another). Anyway, even though the Vita seems like a great machine, I can't really see myself buying one anytime soon.

It wouldn't surprise me if sales for both the 3DS and the Vita are slow, because I think I'm not the only one with these views.


Early Vita sales numbers are going to be really interesting, because it seems like there are tons and tons of people buying these things. Of course, my evidence of this is limited to my own experiences. I've been to a Best Buy to check the Vita out first hand, and they hardly had any games or accessories in stock. It seemed like just about everything was sold out, which is a pretty good sign for such an expensive piece of hardware, with limited marketing up to this point. Also, I listen to a shitload of gaming podcasts, and it seems everybody on the podcasts are buying their own Vita (most of them with their own money), and their friends and associates seem to be buying them as well. It was similar with the 3DS launch, but there seems to be a bit more hype with the Vita for some reason.

This could totally be a situation in which the podcast scenario is Sony preaching to the Choir, and the Choir running out and buying immediately. As for the Best Buy no stock thing, it's only one Best Buy, so it doesn't really mean all that much. We'll know by Summer how successful the initial launch was.

[SpaceHarrier]

So I fondled this thing for a few minutes today at WalMart. Beautiful screen, I couldn't even see the pixels until I put my eyeball through it. Played Wipeout and Uncharted.

They looked great but on such a small screen the details get lost amongst the action. I feel content with my PSP for now. Also, maybe it's just my lack of dexterity, but I kept hitting the right analog stick when I was trying to hit the face buttons. Everything is so small and squished together.

AND QUIT MAKING ME TOUCH THE SCREEN JUST BECAUSE!

I get it, the system has a touch screen. I don't want to push check marks to start the race, I want to press X like a normal person would, obviously. I actually like the idea of taking the rubbings in Uncharted though, at least that feels 'interactive' and not as much 'we just want to remind you again that there is a touch screen. TOUCH IT!'

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

So I fondled this thing for a few minutes today at WalMart. Beautiful screen, I couldn't even see the pixels until I put my eyeball through it. Played Wipeout and Uncharted.

They looked great but on such a small screen the details get lost amongst the action. I feel content with my PSP for now. Also, maybe it's just my lack of dexterity, but I kept hitting the right analog stick when I was trying to hit the face buttons. Everything is so small and squished together.

AND QUIT MAKING ME TOUCH THE SCREEN JUST BECAUSE!

I get it, the system has a touch screen. I don't want to push check marks to start the race, I want to press X like a normal person would, obviously. I actually like the idea of taking the rubbings in Uncharted though, at least that feels 'interactive' and not as much 'we just want to remind you again that there is a touch screen. TOUCH IT!'

I know, the basic menu screens SORELY lack the ability to navigate with the d-pad and buttons.

Here's hoping that in a firmware or two we get the option to select and start things up without having to constantly poke the screen.

[Bojay1997]

Early Vita sales numbers are going to be really interesting, because it seems like there are tons and tons of people buying these things. Of course, my evidence of this is limited to my own experiences. I've been to a Best Buy to check the Vita out first hand, and they hardly had any games or accessories in stock. It seemed like just about everything was sold out, which is a pretty good sign for such an expensive piece of hardware, with limited marketing up to this point. Also, I listen to a shitload of gaming podcasts, and it seems everybody on the podcasts are buying their own Vita (most of them with their own money), and their friends and associates seem to be buying them as well. It was similar with the 3DS launch, but there seems to be a bit more hype with the Vita for some reason.

This could totally be a situation in which the podcast scenario is Sony preaching to the Choir, and the Choir running out and buying immediately. As for the Best Buy no stock thing, it's only one Best Buy, so it doesn't really mean all that much. We'll know by Summer how successful the initial launch was.

Well, the numbers this morning weren't exactly what I was expecting given the healthy launch I assumed happened based on visiting a number of stores last week. It looks like 600K units combined for both the US and Europe. While not terrible, it's not exactly stellar either, especially with all the discounting, free memory cards, B2G1, etc...

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/28/vita-sales-hit-1-2-million-worldwide-software-surpasses-2-milli/#continued

[WCP]

I was at Target today, and got to play the Vita for about 5 minutes while the wife was looking for some misc stuff. I ended up playing Wipeout. I'm a huge Wipeout fan. Absolutely adore the first two on PS1, and I also love Wipeout HD on PS3. The Vita wipeout "looks" really good, but it's running at 30 frames instead of 60, and the sensation of speed is really lacking. I kept hitting the turbo boosts, and even then it just doesn't seem like I'm going that fast. It really sucks, because other than that, the game seems pretty freaking amazing. It would easily be one of my most wanted Vita games, but a Wipeout game needs to seem fast, and this one doesn't. I'd still like to play more of it, but I'm a bit bummed out about it.

[kupomogli]

Wipeout on the Vita in 30fps doesn't mean that the sense of speed is gone, because it's still there. The game is even available in cross play with the PS3. The sense of speed is probably not there because you were probably playing in a low speed class. I was playing Wipeout 2048 on my friends Vita and another friend started a game up on the Vita and then later I joined his game on the PS3 and it seems to run cross play with no lag. Everything seemed fine to me.

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About Remote Play for the PS3/Vita.

Sony has already said that they're currently working on an update that will allow the Vita to play all PS3 content through remote play, not just certain games. The Vita can already play all this content through remote play through a custom firmware PS3, but as for official firmware, not yet.

As far as I knew, what does it really matter? You had to set it up with the PS3 everytime you used it. You had to have access to a tv. I didn't know that once you set it up and then hit remote play on the Vita, it would automatically wake the PS3 from sleep mode and activate remote play. I also didn't know that you could connect to remote play through a wireless connection.

So once Sony gets that patch in to allow all PS3 games to work via remote play, the PS Vita will truly become a portable PS3. Anything on the console, and whatever game is in the console is playable from either home or any wireless connection.

I'm interested in the Wii U and that's one of the selling points for me. Being able to bring the Wii U around as a portable console as long as plugged up to a power outlet. But finding this out, the Vita just did a one up on the Wii U by not only being able to do the same thing, but by doing it at any wireless location, without me having to unplug my console it bring it somewhere with me.

Is anyone else interested in Remote Play because of this?

[Bojay1997]

Wipeout on the Vita in 30fps doesn't mean that the sense of speed is gone, because it's still there. The game is even available in cross play with the PS3. The sense of speed is probably not there because you were probably playing in a low speed class. I was playing Wipeout 2048 on my friends Vita and another friend started a game up on the Vita and then later I joined his game on the PS3 and it seems to run cross play with no lag. Everything seemed fine to me.

--

About Remote Play for the PS3/Vita.

Sony has already said that they're currently working on an update that will allow the Vita to play all PS3 content through remote play, not just certain games. The Vita can already play all this content through remote play through a custom firmware PS3, but as for official firmware, not yet.

As far as I knew, what does it really matter? You had to set it up with the PS3 everytime you used it. You had to have access to a tv. I didn't know that once you set it up and then hit remote play on the Vita, it would automatically wake the PS3 from sleep mode and activate remote play. I also didn't know that you could connect to remote play through a wireless connection.

So once Sony gets that patch in to allow all PS3 games to work via remote play, the PS Vita will truly become a portable PS3. Anything on the console, and whatever game is in the console is playable from either home or any wireless connection.

I'm interested in the Wii U and that's one of the selling points for me. Being able to bring the Wii U around as a portable console as long as plugged up to a power outlet. But finding this out, the Vita just did a one up on the Wii U by not only being able to do the same thing, but by doing it at any wireless location, without me having to unplug my console it bring it somewhere with me.

Is anyone else interested in Remote Play because of this?

Actually, Sony has said nothing of the sort. There was a rumor printed by several websites last November that claimed Sony was working on universal remote play, but zero confirmation from Sony. Sure, it would be awesome if Sony implemented universal remote play, but it will likely also seriously impact Vita software sales if people have a full library of PS3 games to choose from. As such, I am very skeptical that they will ever release this purported patch. Personally, I have zero interest in playing PS3 games on the Vita. I want unique experiences that only the Vita and its unique features can provide.

[kupomogli]

Wasn't aware that it was a rumor considering a lot of major news sites posted it without tagging it as rumor. Then again, journalism isn't what it used to be.

I think Sony needs to make it happen though. Rather than hurt the Vita, I think it would help it. Like Nintendo mentioned at E3 with the Wii U, there's the ability to have the game display on the touch screen and continue even if you lose access to a television.

Also how many people do you think are going to have access of constant wifi outside of their home, especially with most people usually playing portables within their homes. I highly doubt many sales would be lost by having all games playable with remote play. Even if some sales are lost, the ability to do remote play through wifi might actually cut down on the third party developers porting half their current gen library to the Vita. *cough*Ubisoft*cough.* Less ports, more exclusives. The way you're thinking of it is that everyone would just buy PS3 games and then forego purchasing anything for the Vita, which more than likely isn't going to happen. In the event that it did, even then it'd be making Sony money.

[Leo_A]

Sony squashed that rumor several days ago. Only games specially programmed to support it will have a remote play option. I believe the next Killzone is supposed to be the first example.

It's my understanding that Wipeout 2048 doesn't support cross play (Doesn't that refer to being able to actually play the Vita game on your PS3 ala the upcoming Motorstorm RC?), but that if you own the PS3 editions, you can download for free the PS3 tracks to play against PS3 owners online from your Vita.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Anybody either get the full game or play the Touch my Katamari demo?

I own every single Katamari game (including both iOS games) and this one has IMO the absolute fastest, best, most responsive controls out of all of them.

The jump mechanic carried over from the PS3 game and the Katamari morphing (stretch/pinch) with the back touch screen are great.

I see a lot of critics citing that the series hasn't evolved much and that this entry has some recycled levels/content, and where that is certainly valid criticism of any game that has never seemed to bother me SPECIFICALLY in a Katamari game.

As long as it's not part & parcel the same exact game as what came before I don't mind playing in the same environments or doing the same tasks.

[kupomogli]

It's my understanding that Wipeout 2048 doesn't support cross play (Doesn't that refer to being able to actually play the Vita game on your PS3 ala the upcoming Motorstorm RC?), but that if you own the PS3 editions, you can download for free the PS3 tracks to play against PS3 owners online from your Vita.

There's an option specifically for crossplay that will support all the Wipeout HD and HD Fury tracks. It won't support any of the new tracks or new ships though. However, it seems with Vita that only four of those tracks are unlocked from the start, or atleast I'm guessing, so you have to unlock them rather than being able to play all of them.

The thing is, my friend couldn't join my match I started with the PS3, but I was able to join his match he started with the Vita.

[dairugger]

Wipeout on the Vita in 30fps doesn't mean that the sense of speed is gone, because it's still there. The game is even available in cross play with the PS3. The sense of speed is probably not there because you were probably playing in a low speed class. I was playing Wipeout 2048 on my friends Vita and another friend started a game up on the Vita and then later I joined his game on the PS3 and it seems to run cross play with no lag. Everything seemed fine to me.

--

About Remote Play for the PS3/Vita.

Sony has already said that they're currently working on an update that will allow the Vita to play all PS3 content through remote play, not just certain games. The Vita can already play all this content through remote play through a custom firmware PS3, but as for official firmware, not yet.

As far as I knew, what does it really matter? You had to set it up with the PS3 everytime you used it. You had to have access to a tv. I didn't know that once you set it up and then hit remote play on the Vita, it would automatically wake the PS3 from sleep mode and activate remote play. I also didn't know that you could connect to remote play through a wireless connection.

So once Sony gets that patch in to allow all PS3 games to work via remote play, the PS Vita will truly become a portable PS3. Anything on the console, and whatever game is in the console is playable from either home or any wireless connection.

I'm interested in the Wii U and that's one of the selling points for me. Being able to bring the Wii U around as a portable console as long as plugged up to a power outlet. But finding this out, the Vita just did a one up on the Wii U by not only being able to do the same thing, but by doing it at any wireless location, without me having to unplug my console it bring it somewhere with me.

Is anyone else interested in Remote Play because of this?

actually from what ive read the wiiu tablet will only be able to play games up to a certain distance in a house, you cant take it with you say to school and play unfortunatly. the tablet streams from the console using some sort of transmission (blutooth?) it doesnt use a persons wireless network to do so.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Okay, so, here are some interesting findings.

The PSP software that is NOT listed on the PS Vita Store but is compatible via transfer from PS3 to PSV - knocks off your wireless internet connection if/when it accesses it for local multiplayer, and when you quit out of those games you'll need to power down and power up the Vita to get WiFi working again.

I noticed this with Capcom Classics and Flow, both of which automatically take over WiFi for local multiplayer. This didn't happen with SNK Classics Collection which IS on the PSV Store.

Interesting ... looks like the PSP functionality that uses WiFi for local multiplayer doesn't flip back over and the WiFi hardware doesn't reset when you quit the software. No huge deal, but that may be a reason why those games aren't available for purchase on the PSV Store.

[kupomogli]

actually from what ive read the wiiu tablet will only be able to play games up to a certain distance in a house, you cant take it with you say to school and play unfortunatly. the tablet streams from the console using some sort of transmission (blutooth?) it doesnt use a persons wireless network to do so.

I know that. The console is required to be with you and hooked into a power outlet while the Vita can do so through any location that has wireless. Atleast considering that your PS3 on the other end also has access to the internet, wired or wireless. Reread the paragraph mentioning the Wii U.