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Edmond Dantes
03-11-2012, 07:25 AM
Believe it or not, I never played these games as a kid. Not in the arcade, not on the NES, not even on emulators. I heard about them, but their legendary difficulty always scared me away.
But I'm playing them now and... I've never had so much fun crying like a baby. So far, the most amazing feat I've pulled is getting to level 3 in the first game without dying (and I'm pretty sure I did that by accident). In the second and third games, I can't even get past the first level. That double-jump is mocking me, I tell you!
Well, let's round this out with some actual questions:
1. In Capcom Classics Collection, unlocking all the bonus features also unlocks a code that allows you to change your weapon. This is done by holding a direction when the level starts. I HATE this code and I often find myself doing it by accident, so I want to know: is there a way to disable it (besides "don't play with a memory card")?
2. If I already have the Capcom Classics version on the PS2, is there any point in buying the Capcom Generations release of this trilogy for the Saturn (outside of just to support the system)? Are there any noteworthy differences?
That's all I really want to know. Thanks in advance, and let the armor-breaking commence!
treismac
03-11-2012, 12:21 PM
Even though I have no answers to your questions, I'm glad to hear that you're getting into Ghost n' Goblins, Dantes! I never played them (much) as a child either, but as an adult I have sipped a bit of the experience and enjoyed it. What impresses me about the game is that it is so hard but yet it doesn't ever feel like the game cheated you. I don't believe I ever made it to stage three, though, either on the PS2 ports or the NES or SNES versions.
davidbrit2
03-11-2012, 12:30 PM
I imagine you'll get proper non-interlaced video from the Saturn versions. It's been a while since I put in my copy, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
hellraiser
03-11-2012, 12:30 PM
The nes game is probably one of the most difficult games I've played. It took me quite a few times to get past the red devil on level one. I agree I don't feel cheated or that the game is "cheap" . Just feel like the game would take some insane skill level to beat.
swlovinist
03-11-2012, 12:50 PM
I imagine you'll get proper non-interlaced video from the Saturn versions. It's been a while since I put in my copy, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
I am a fan of every version, including the SuperGrafx version of Ghouls and Ghosts. A wonderful series that is challenging.
Edmond Dantes
03-11-2012, 01:37 PM
Well, someone on eBay is selling the Saturn collection cheap. Auction ends in eight days... I hope nobody else wants it.
Even though it doesn't sound like there's much of a difference, I'll grab it anyway. You can never have too much of a good game. And my Saturn needs more love. Only problem is, I don't have an Action Replay cart, so I won't be able to actually play it.
EDIT: Anyone have an Action Replay they'll let go of for an unreasonably low price?
InsaneDavid
03-11-2012, 01:48 PM
I figured I'd share a link to this thread here (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?157024-Ghosts-n-Goblins-Fruit-Bowl-My-Girlfriend-Painted).
In response to your first question, I don't think there's any way to disable it.
Edmond Dantes
03-11-2012, 06:14 PM
Well, that's okay. I unlocked everything using a cheat anyway (a lot of CCC's bonus requirements are ridiculous, and I swear some of them are bugged--I beat Armadillon in Trojan but for some reason didn't get the bonus associated with him), so since the weapon-select annoys me so much, I just deleted the save and started a new file.
And yeah, I've noticed the same thing you all have: GnG is harder than Satan's demonic willy, but it feels fair, somehow. Especially compared to other arcade games I've played, such as Rastan (which feels poorly-designed and cheap), or even console games like the NES Ninja Gaiden trilogy (which is hard mostly due to B.S. like forcing you to start back if you die at a boss)
BTW, found an Action Replay for $27 plus free shipping. I hope I'm the only one who bids on it, though I wish I could've found one for a lower price.
kedawa
03-11-2012, 06:23 PM
I love this series, even though I haven't finished a single game. Even the home computer ports are fun.
One of these days I need to pick up a PSP and take a crack at Ultimate GnG.
rbudrick
03-12-2012, 06:03 PM
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?131278-After-22-Years-I-finally-beat-Ghosts-N-Goblins-for-NES-EDIT-Adventure-Island-too!&highlight=goblins
Please see link above. I too went on a G&G adventure for a while and was determined to not stop until I beat the NES and Arcade versions...Then I beat Adventure Island for NES...equally insanely difficult!
For those scared of the challenge, know that with persistence, you can definitely beat these games...don't let a few hundred deaths stop you.
-Rob
treismac
03-12-2012, 06:26 PM
Please see link above. I too went on a G&G adventure for a while and was determined to not stop until I beat the NES and Arcade versions...Then I beat Adventure Island for NES...equally insanely difficult!
I beat Adventure Island on emulation over the course of a week or two. I would never have had the nerves nor the patience to beat the game on the actual hardware in one sitting. 10-20 minute sessions were more than enough for me. *_*
Contrabassoon86
03-12-2012, 07:09 PM
I love Ghosts n' Goblins, but I find that it is difficult to sit and play these games straight through. I sat down to beat Super Ghouls n' Ghosts on the SNES, only to give up half-way through the second time through the game due to fatigue.
The ability to save one's game has spoiled us modern gamers. Or does anybody disagree with me?
Cornelius
03-12-2012, 08:04 PM
BTW, found an Action Replay for $27 plus free shipping. I hope I'm the only one who bids on it, though I wish I could've found one for a lower price.
I'm not completely sure what you need, is the Action Replay just to play imports?... would an ST Key do the job? I've got an extra kicking around that I need to sell if you don't win the auction. It ain't pretty, but if you are just using it to play that shouldn't matter. Only problem is I'm not sure I have a way to test it out. Anyway, keep it in mind.
Edmond Dantes
03-12-2012, 08:24 PM
I'm not completely sure what you need, is the Action Replay just to play imports?... would an ST Key do the job?
It depends. I primarily want to play imports, but the RAM expansion feature might come in useful too.
Edmond Dantes
03-17-2012, 12:32 AM
Thought I'd revive this topic.
Well, I finally got past level three. Now, I'm stuck at level five, the one where you have to keep going up while dodging ghosts and those little imps with fireballs. Around my fiftieth attempt at this stage, my soul jumped out of my body and said "Why are you punishing me like this? What did I do to hurt you so?" I didn't want the poor guy to feel bad, so I called it a day.
One thing I've realized: a lot of people make a big deal about what an asshole Red Arremer is, but I've seen two enemies who I think are even worse.
1) Those fucking ogres, the ones that stomp back and forth and come after you if they see you, and can shoot blue fireballs. And for some reason, they gravitate around ladders which you need to climb. I got into the habit of hitting them a few times, then jumping over them, hitting them from the other side, repeat until dead. Hate how effing short-range the shield is.
And worst enemy 2?
2) Ladders. Yeah. it keeps catching me off guard that when Arthur reaches the top, you need to hold up a little bit longer so he'll finish getting off the latter. Worse than that is when you need to duck, but a ladder is right below you so he starts climbing instead. It's like geez, you stupid knight. I bet you made your own armor too, and that's why it breaks all the time.
Still, level five... what an achievement!
treismac
03-17-2012, 01:01 AM
Still, level five... what an achievement!
Cheers to you sir, and the finest balm from Gilead for your poor soul!!
Edmond Dantes
03-18-2012, 03:26 AM
Well, in bad news, I was outbid on both the Action Replay and Capcom Generation 2, though the latter is still running so I might try to win it at the last minute. But I recently had a chance to acquire some hard-to-find RPGs so I might end up having to skip it until next month. If anyone has spares of either you're looking to get rid of, hold on to 'em for me, will ya?
Also, would there be any interest in me uploading a video of me playing the game? I have a Logitech webcam that actually takes pretty good videos of games if I adjust the settings right, and it has a good microphone too, so it can pick up both the game sounds and my commentary.
treismac
03-18-2012, 04:38 AM
Also, would there be any interest in me uploading a video of me playing the game? I have a Logitech webcam that actually takes pretty good videos of games if I adjust the settings right, and it has a good microphone too, so it can pick up both the game sounds and my commentary.
I'd watch a video of you battling Ghosts n' Goblins.
thegamezmaster
03-18-2012, 08:22 AM
Great series, just wish it wasn't so hard for me!:|
Edmond Dantes
03-18-2012, 07:13 PM
Also just got to the second level of Ghouls n' Ghosts. Damn bridges that drop you right into the Antlion's maws. Where's Cecil Harvey when you need 'im?
Still trying to get the Saturn set, and I just read the trilogy is also on the PSP (Capcom Classics Reloaded), so next month I'll grab that and Ultimate GnG. That would mean the only game I won't have is the Wonderswan one, though I'm not sure I want that so much.
InsaneDavid
03-18-2012, 07:22 PM
Also just got to the second level of Ghouls n' Ghosts. Damn bridges that drop you right into the Antlion's maws. Where's Cecil Harvey when you need 'im?
Still trying to get the Saturn set, and I just read the trilogy is also on the PSP (Capcom Classics Reloaded), so next month I'll grab that and Ultimate GnG. That would mean the only game I won't have is the Wonderswan one, though I'm not sure I want that so much.
If you're into The Incredible Machine series, check out Nazo Makaimura - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJa_xy10iYw
Edmond Dantes
03-20-2012, 05:42 PM
New record: Got to level six in the first game finally.
No progress on Ghouls n' Ghosts and I can't even get past the first level in Super GnG.
I used to like the Incredible Machine and Incredible Toons games, so I might check out Nazo Makaimura sometime. Right now I'm more interested in playing/acquiring the platformer installments (the Wonderswan one will be a doozy since I don't even have a Wonderswan, but I've heard its not even worth it).
EDIT: Also, got outbid on Capcom Generation 2 for Saturn. Oh well, I'll just have to live with playing these on PS2.
A Black Falcon
03-20-2012, 06:32 PM
Such a hard series... for me though, I found the Genesis version of G&G the easiest by far of the ones I've played. I beat it without too much difficulty within a few days of buying the game. Infinite continues and a much more forgiving difficulty level than some other games in the series really helped out. Super Ghouls & Ghosts, though, I just find pretty much impossible. I have it for both SNES and GBA, and haven't managed to get past the second level of either version despite quite a few tries. It's just way too hard.
As for the first game, the version I've played the most is the GB/GBC version. It has password save, which is a very nice addition... still though, while I have been playing it on and off recently (after buying it some months ago), I'm currently stuck at the level 5 boss. I can get through the stage, but that boss is pretty hard...
parallaxscroll
03-21-2012, 04:19 AM
Don't forget the Sharp X68000 version of Ghouls 'N Ghosts, it's outstandingly close to the arcade too.
I seem to remember the Genesis version of the game being fairly easy to complete. I remember finishing it not too long after I bought it.
With the SNES and NES versions of the game, I have completed both of them on the first quest, if I can remember correctly. On SNES, I made it to world 7 with the ring, but then I could never get to the end with such a crappy weapon, if I can remember correctly. The NES version, cannot remember what happened to stop me from completing it two times. A great series, but difficult as well.
Edmond Dantes
03-22-2012, 12:12 AM
Got to level 3 in Super Ghouls n' Ghosts finally. Surprisingly, Level 2 (the ghost ship and raft) were a bitch the first time but afterwards, I beat it in one go.
Also level six in Ghosts n' Goblins. Keep getting killed in the part with all the ogres and red arremers. Bastards.
Been watching a Let's Play of Makaimura for Wonderswan. Originally my thought was "watch it because I'll probably never own this one," but... the more I see, the more I wish I had gotten that WS Crystal that a user here was selling once (the game itself seems to go for $50 complete, give or take a bit).
EDIT: By the way, here is something I found pretty amusing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEuuj8EL3tE)
Edmond Dantes
03-26-2012, 09:01 PM
I wish it was as easy to revive Arthur as it is to revive threads.
Okay, I've come to a conclusion:
Ghosts n' Goblins MAY be beatable.
Super Ghouls n' Ghosts is PROBABLY doable.
But Ghouls n' Ghosts? NO FREAKIN WAY.
It's odd. I've always heard the second is the easiest one, but that's not my experience at all. The first level is practically impossible, and it just gets worse from there. Most times when I play, the first boss kicks my ass. Then when I finally beat him, I keep getting killed by either the rock turtles or the antlions.
Just... that game's impossible. Beating it is never gonna happen, short of me developing some sort of game-playing superpowers or something.
... So, anyone know good prices on a Wonderswan?
NE146
03-27-2012, 12:13 AM
I wish it was as easy to revive Arthur as it is to revive threads.
Okay, I've come to a conclusion:
Ghosts n' Goblins MAY be beatable.
Super Ghouls n' Ghosts is PROBABLY doable.
But Ghouls n' Ghosts? NO FREAKIN WAY.
It's odd. I've always heard the second is the easiest one, but that's not my experience at all. The first level is practically impossible, and it just gets worse from there. Most times when I play, the first boss kicks my ass. Then when I finally beat him, I keep getting killed by either the rock turtles or the antlions.
Just... that game's impossible. Beating it is never gonna happen, short of me developing some sort of game-playing superpowers or something.
You gotta be kidding me. Ghosts n Goblins is way harder than Ghouls and Ghosts. How is the 1st level practically impossible? There's nothing in that 1st level that's "hard" except perhaps the boss.. and then the good thing about Ghouls N' Ghosts on the Genesis, is if you die on the boss, you start again right at that boss, so there's no excuse.
The rock turtles & antlions level is challenging at first. But if you play it a lot (the way you're supposed to get through a GnG game), you learn the patterns and where to stop, and when to jump etc. Then it's easy and you'll never have a major problem with the stage again. Unlike Ghosts and Goblins where even if you know a stage, the execution of it is still hard.
Just saying. :)
Collector_Gaming
03-27-2012, 12:23 AM
Anyone try the remake on the iOs? Its pretty fun with updated graphics and such. Still kinda hard but doesnt seem as hard
JeremiahJT
03-27-2012, 12:48 AM
I never had any of the games growing up, but I have had the NES Ghosts 'n Goblins for some time now and have never got close to beating it. I bought Ghouls 'n Ghosts for the Master System off ebay last week and I played it today for the first time and beat it. I did use roughly 83 continues. Going through the second time was much easier, I probably only used 5 continues. Part of that was me getting better and part of it was my equipment being maxed out. Someday I will beat Ghosts 'n Goblins and I do plan to buy Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts someday. I have definitely enjoyed the series and completely understand it popularity.
Edmond Dantes
03-27-2012, 01:16 AM
and then the good thing about Ghouls N' Ghosts on the Genesis,
There's the problem: I'm not playing the Genesis one.
NE146
03-27-2012, 07:58 PM
There's the problem: I'm not playing the Genesis one.
Well maybe you oughta :) The gameplay is 100% intact and will serve as good practice. As a matter o' fact after mastering the Genesis version, I could walk into the arcade (when they had them) and beat the arcade machine on 1-3 quarters. Sometimes I even got a crowd LOL All from the Genesis version. But you're right, you don't start at the bosses after dying on them regularly, but that's a minor problem.
Edmond Dantes
03-28-2012, 02:38 AM
Well maybe you oughta :)
Yeah, maybe I oughtta. I've also seen nearly-complete copies of the SuperGrafx port floating around for $50. Too bad I don't have a Supergrafx.
Got a little bit farther in Ghouls n Ghosts today. I'm able to get past the rock turtles and antlion pits now, but haven't beaten Cerberus yet.
Edmond Dantes
04-06-2012, 11:42 AM
I phoenix down'd this thread just to say:
Nothing makes you feel like a real gamer quite like getting to the second loop of a GnG game. Even if that game is Super Ghouls n' Ghosts and you're playing on default difficulty (normal). And by the way, I have an actual cart now (though I intend to play thru on both the SNES and the PS2 to unlock all the bonuses).
Also have a cart of Ghosts n' Goblins on the NES, and... it's time for an unpopular opinion: I hate hate HATE the NES version. God, what an awful port. How many times have I gotten hit by a bird just because my spear brushed SLIGHTLY over the damn thing, or I've lost my armor because Arthur's foot was a pixel too close? And that climb up and down the building in the second level was hard enough in the arcade original, but here it feels like a complete crapshoot where absolutely no strategy will save you. Of course maybe I just need to reprogram my brain, but it really feels like everything's just off in the NES one.
Also, on a related note: Has anyone here ever beat the hidden boss in Demon's Crest?
Bloodreign
04-28-2012, 05:22 AM
I'm no fan of NES GnG as well, mainly because I don't feel it's as hard as it's arcade counterpart (and it isn't), but it seems the NES version has a ton more bugs in it that the already bug filled arcade version.
stalepie
04-29-2012, 07:03 AM
I was just playing GnG on a Yobo FC Twin. The controls hang up on it. Not sure if it does that on a real NES. It doesn't seem to in NNNesterJ. But there were times where Arthur stays locked in place while running.
Edit: Never mind, I think it's just an issue with Yobo remotes and this game. I thought they were failing at first, but they still work fine with other games, and SNES remotes work with GnG OK.
sloan
04-30-2012, 03:57 PM
I have the NES Ghosts and Goblins which is impossibly difficult. I gave up on it ages ago.
I also have SNES Super Ghosts and Goblins, but have not tried it yet.
Someone told me that Ghouls and Ghosts on the Genesis is actually the easiest version, and I will have to get a copy some day to test that theory.
Frankie_Says_Relax
04-30-2012, 04:28 PM
As a big fan of the series I've always found Ghouls N' Ghosts to be the easiest (relatively speaking) and the only one I've played to completion.
The weapons and armor magic are the most functional/practical in most situations, and the levels are the most forgiving (though there are some segments that require some frustratingly precise platforming).
Super Ghouls N' Ghosts never made much sense to me, taking away the up/down weapons throws seemed like an unnecessary difficulty ratchet. I don't like the platforming mechanics of that one at all. Just something about it that doesn't feel right.
The PSP game is fun and not too brutally difficult from what I rember, and there are two unique games on iOS. The first is totally free with ads on the loading screens!
I also recall the Sega Master System version of Ghouls N' Ghosts has some really strange updates to the armor/weapons systems via hidden shops.
When you're done with the main trilogy, you might want to give the Maximo games a go on PS2. The play style is different (3D action) but they're in that universe.
Edmond Dantes
05-01-2012, 12:53 AM
For some reason, double-jumping makes more sense to me than multi-directional firing. I keep forgetting I have that ability.
I've noticed that Ghouls n' Ghosts on the PS2 has insanely dark graphics. On my TV's default settings I can see the stuff I need to see, but most of the background details are either obscured or gone completely (the first level's background looks like just a black sky if I don't turn the brightness and contrast up, for example). Is this normal? And does this also happen on the Saturn version?
I'm gonna try to record and upload a video of my gameplay tomorrow, assuming no storms happen and Youtube will actually cooperate this time.
YoshiM
05-01-2012, 01:09 AM
Funny I stumbled onto this thread-I played the NES Ghosts n' Goblins this afternoon during my lunch break. Just wanted to test it out as my brother-in-law gave me a bunch of NES games. I think by sheer luck I got mid way through Level 2 and I never was able to do THAT before.
Bloodreign
05-01-2012, 04:56 AM
For some reason, double-jumping makes more sense to me than multi-directional firing. I keep forgetting I have that ability.
I've noticed that Ghouls n' Ghosts on the PS2 has insanely dark graphics. On my TV's default settings I can see the stuff I need to see, but most of the background details are either obscured or gone completely (the first level's background looks like just a black sky if I don't turn the brightness and contrast up, for example). Is this normal? And does this also happen on the Saturn version?
I'm gonna try to record and upload a video of my gameplay tomorrow, assuming no storms happen and Youtube will actually cooperate this time.
It is based upon the PS1 GnG collection, the Saturn version of Ghouls/Daimakaimura has brighter backgrounds that are easy to see. They straight ported it seems the PS1 Cap Gen titles, so Ghouls unfortunately has those dark backgrounds.
wiggyx
05-01-2012, 09:46 PM
These games are super freakin' tough, no doubt. I beat the SNES SGG once. That was the last time I touched it. That was probably in about 1992/3. I left my SNES on for 2 or 3 days in order to do so. Like many others have said, the Genesis version was the easiest (for me). Those are the only 2 I ever finished. Screw the NES game. If you beat that, then you deserve a medal.
It's cool to see people still enjoying the most difficult classic games. It's pretty easy to give up on the G&G series. Definitely not for the newb gamer. Keep us posted on your progress!
o.pwuaioc
05-01-2012, 11:52 PM
I by far prefer the Genesis version of Ghouls and Ghosts to Super Ghouls and Ghosts. I've gotten to level 3 before on the latter, but it didn't feel fun. I ended up selling it to buy the Genesis version. It's not a cakewalk either, but it feels far more fun.
Drixxel
05-02-2012, 01:16 AM
Recently, I've been playing a lot of the Super Ghouls'n Ghosts GBA port. The game doesn't suffer much at all from the shrunken play area and the save feature is fantastic for quick pick-up-and-play sessions. I seriously dig Super Ghouls'n Ghosts, it's undoubedly my favourite of the series, but I've played the first 2-3 stages so much compared to the rest that having an opportunity to jump right past them offers the game new legs.
Edmond Dantes
05-03-2012, 05:45 AM
Okay, finally, FINALLY I was able to upload a video of my playing Ghosts n' Goblins!
Here it is! (http://youtu.be/vJrbXoLPsUM)
http://youtu.be/vJrbXoLPsUM
EDIT: And here's part 2! (http://youtu.be/kvZTTHpwCAI)
I'll upload Part 3 whenever I get a chance.
I really like this series, I have it on PSP, Sega Megadrive (inc the Japanese version), SNES, NES and Master System
My favourite is the Master System version as I find it easier with the "shops" to upgrade yourself. My favourite trick with this is to die and repeat the first level, building up my power. Once done the rest of the game is a breeze!
Black_Tiger
05-08-2012, 12:35 PM
I believe that the Xbox version of CCC supports progressive scan. One of the two does and that's the one I bought. I think that both versions do for Volume 2.
I noticed that Ghosts 'N Goblins and Trojan were buggy in the collection.
Ghosts 'N Goblins is my favorite and was big during the peak of arcades in my hometown. I also find it the easiest to beat.
I don't like the random cheapness or art design of Ghouls 'N Ghosts. I only find the Genesis/MD version fun to play.
Edmond Dantes
05-08-2012, 10:08 PM
I noticed that Ghosts 'N Goblins and Trojan were buggy in the collection.
You mean Gameplay or something else? I noticed with Trojan that the unlockable for beating Armadillon doesn't unlock until you beat him during the rematch in level four, which I think is a bug. (I also noticed that the more I played that game, the more I wanted to commit suicide. Kung-Fu clones aren't my cup of tea).
Also, I got a DVD Recorder today, so no more of this "record using a webcam" B.S. I've been doing!
Edmond Dantes
05-11-2012, 07:59 AM
I've finally uploaded Part 3 (http://youtu.be/l3TEiqgDGPw) of my earlier playthru! Unfortunately I didn't beat the game, but I think I at least did fairly well this time. Later I'll upload a vid of that glitch I mentioned in part 1.
And fortunately, this and a Contra video I'm uploading are the only ones done with a webcam, in the future they'll all be done with a DVD recorder.
Edmond Dantes
11-08-2012, 01:09 PM
Just reviving this topic to tell you, my very best bestest friends, that...
I FINALLY BEAT SUPER GHOULS N GHOSTS!
*Dances around the forum and passes out candy and confetti and cigs.*
One down, two to go...
(Unfortunately I didn't record a video of it, but I have proof leastaways, since beating the game unlocks something in Capcom Classics. I'm thinking later on I'll beat one of the other ports and record that)
ALSO: Quick question, is it normal for GnG and Super GnG to have black bars on the side when playing the Saturn versions?
rbudrick
11-08-2012, 01:51 PM
I've finally uploaded Part 3 (http://youtu.be/l3TEiqgDGPw) of my earlier playthru! Unfortunately I didn't beat the game, but I think I at least did fairly well this time. Later I'll upload a vid of that glitch I mentioned in part 1.
And fortunately, this and a Contra video I'm uploading are the only ones done with a webcam, in the future they'll all be done with a DVD recorder.
Congrats! I know your happy feeling (see my previous post in this thread). It's a great sense of accomplishment.
Now beat the NES and arcade versions of GnG!
-Rob
sneekyweezel
11-08-2012, 02:22 PM
You think Ghosts and Goblins is hard?Try playing the U.S. version of the arcade compared to the Japan version- by the way I've beaten about every one there is including Super Ghouls and Ghosts without cheats, and the U.S. version of G&G is pretty much impossible- take a look here at my terrible video and you'll see what I mean-
http://youtu.be/E5O4NALtweM
See how many hits it took to kill that asshole?! In the Japan version they die in like four. Rest my case.
Edmond Dantes
11-08-2012, 08:45 PM
I'm not sure what you mean, Sneeky. I just loaded up the U.S. version on MAME and I didn't see any significant differences between it and any other version I'd played.
I did notice there was an "Italian" version that claimed to be harder, but I didn't try it out. And Satan taking 10 or so hits is normal, IIRC.
ccovell
11-09-2012, 01:13 AM
ALSO: Quick question, is it normal for GnG and Super GnG to have black bars on the side when playing the Saturn versions?
The Saturn's lowest resolution is 320 pixels across, whereas both Ghosts & Goblins (AC) and Super GnG (SNES) had fixed resolutions of 256 pixels across. There are thus bars on both sides.
Ghouls & Ghosts (AC) had a resolution of 384 pixels across, so the Sat struggled to fit it all on-screen.
rbudrick
11-09-2012, 11:17 PM
You think Ghosts and Goblins is hard?Try playing the U.S. version of the arcade compared to the Japan version- by the way I've beaten about every one there is including Super Ghouls and Ghosts without cheats, and the U.S. version of G&G is pretty much impossible- take a look here at my terrible video and you'll see what I mean-
http://youtu.be/E5O4NALtweM
See how many hits it took to kill that asshole?! In the Japan version they die in like four. Rest my case.
In the second quest when you have to fight 2 of them at once, I spent about 200 tries trying to get past them, iirc.
-Rob
Edmond Dantes
11-10-2012, 07:28 PM
The Saturn's lowest resolution is 320 pixels across, whereas both Ghosts & Goblins (AC) and Super GnG (SNES) had fixed resolutions of 256 pixels across. There are thus bars on both sides.
Ghouls & Ghosts (AC) had a resolution of 384 pixels across, so the Sat struggled to fit it all on-screen.
Thanks. I suspected it was a resolution issue.
Still haven't made a dent in the first two GnG games....