Retro games rock...everything else makes me sick...it's crap

[MyTurnToPlay]

I don't think I'll ever get bored of my NES and SNES...with all their flaws and imperfections...those 2 systems are the only ones that matter to me. Retro games in general I have nothing but love for. But modern video games are complete crap. Just utter and total garbage. I don't know why soo many morons buy the stuff. I realized that tonight while playing Lolo for my NES...taking a break and trying to play something more recent...giving up...and playing Lolo again.

Seriously...all the modern stuff is garbage. It's nothing but gimmicks and fancy graphics. Every mother f-ing new system is just an update to graphics. I don't give a rats behind about graphics...WHY?!?? Because I still have to hold that stupid controller in my hand while staring at some stupid television. I don't want to hold an f-ing thing in my hand. I don't want to stare at a damn screen. I DON'T want to play AS Link. I WANT TO BE LINK. Why the hell can't they make the holodeck from Star Trek. That's what I want. I want myself...physically...to walk around a world and tell Gannon to stop d*cking around and let Zelda go. I want to be able to approach NPC's and tell them to their face that I reject their idiotic sidequests. I want to be Megaman and slap Dr. Wily and then blast him right between the eyes. That's the kind of system I want.

So until that day comes...you'll find me in front of my NES and SNES. The rest...I leave to all the moronic fanboy pricks out there. I'll save my money for a real improvement and update.

thank you.

[Ryudo]

k

I like bananas

[Jack7]

while I do agree that video games seem to be running out of ideas nowadays, don't write off current gen games completely, there IS some good stuff out there, albeit you will have to sift through a stack of COD clones. but we had that too. I usually bring this up in discussions with friends. Usually theres talk of SOOOOO many FPS's and COD clones, then someone will say something along the lines of we didnt have that back in the day. Which i grin and ask how many street fighter clones or even later mortal kombat clones there were.

but now im getting a little off topic.

anyway, I'm with you as far as feeling that past generations gaming was more of an experience to enjoy. however There still are good games out there. They're just harder to find now.

[Jack7]

k

I like bananas

me too. What are your thoughts on grapes?

[treismac]

Myself, I want virtual retro video games. I want to look all around me and see nothing but big luscious pixels surrounding me. If I could only perceive the X and Y plane, that'd be awesome too.

And for the record: pineapple is far superior to both bananas and grapes.

[Jack7]

Myself, I want virtual retro video games. I want to look all around me and see nothing but big luscious pixels surrounding me. If I could only perceive the X and Y plane, that'd be awesome too.

And for the record: pineapple is far superior to both bananas and grapes.

like the matrix meet WiiVC? hmmm im liking this idea.
and everyone knows the best fruit is ricky martin

[treismac]

like the matrix meet WiiVC? hmmm im liking this idea.

Maybe in the next twenty years there will be Virtual Reality, which will have homebrew, neo-retro games rockin' the minds of us old-timers to their very limits. Let's hope we see it sooner than that.

[Jack7]

agreed

[theMot]

If your not retro, fuck you!!!!

[Gooch3008]

Gaming is same as always. lots of mediocre games with jewels here and there. Sucks to be you OP.

[markusman64ds]

Maybe in the next twenty years there will be Virtual Reality, which will have homebrew, neo-retro games rockin' the minds of us old-timers to their very limits. Let's hope we see it sooner than that.

The Kinect would be great for something like that!

[The 1 2 P]

I'm just going to take a seat and watch the show:popcorn:

[Ro-J]

Did anyone else read the op with Denis Leary's voice in their head?

[Oobgarm]

I have to take a shit. Excuse me.

[VideoGameRescue]

I'm getting to this point as well. I keep having faith that they will make something that I can stay excited about and all we get is modern warfare garbage and a new madden every year. I think few games will ever excite me again like a contra, super Mario world or final fantasy 3

[Gooch3008]

I dont know why im even bothering to reply more to this troll thread, maybe im bored. There are amazing games every year for every platform. Of course, nobody can play every single game for all systems. If you cant find worthwhile modern games you arent looking.

[dgdgagdae]

I don't know why soo many morons buy the stuff.

I realized that tonight while playing Lolo for my NES...taking a break and trying to play something more recent...giving up...and playing Lolo again.

The rest...I leave to all the moronic fanboy pricks out there.

So then, how did you get the more recent game? Are you a moron or a fanboy prick?

[Gooch3008]

So then, how did you get the more recent game? Are you a moron or a fanboy prick?

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[Parodius Duh!]

I dont play anything modern. The newest console I dabble in is ps1, saturn, and N64.

[Robocop2]

It kind of seems prickish to say "OMG all games today are soooo awful"
There has always been plenty of filler and crap all the way back to the beginning. To define all modern games by the deluge of COD/Halo clones is nonsensical. Much in the same way that one could argue that all older games suck because there are a ton of mediocre platformers out there. There are plenty of excellent games that have come out with this generation and even the last. A generation of consoles should be judged by the better games of that era not the crap filler out there as they will be the ones remembered moreso. If you don't like current stuff because it doesn't suit your tastes, fine that's a personal preference. I dislike alot of PS1 and N64 era stuff because it doesn't intrest me but I'm not about to say all of it sucks.

Sure graphics are a focus today but, what exactly is new about that? I seem to recall marketing for pretty much every system ever that was at least in some way tied to how much better the graphics were than a competing/previous generation system.

[Gamevet]

Somebody needs to play a little bit of Pac-man C.E. and Afternurner Climax.

[madman77]

I seem to recall marketing for pretty much every system ever that was at least in some way tied to how much better the graphics were than a competing/previous generation system.
Except the Wii since it's pretty much just a Gamecube in terms of graphics :)

[Kevincal]

gaming was more magical and hardcore in the 80's and 90's and there was a much better variety of companies, systems and games. the internet brought gaming to the mainstream and modern gaming is too popular and mainstream now and has lost a lot of magic, also way too many sequels these days. Not enough cool original stuff. So ya I blame the internet.

[Jack7]

actually IMHO you can blame progression. every new system tended to out do the last graphically, however they were still kinda behind (compared to arcade and pc) and had something to look forward to. now I believe we've hit a wall and tactics are being used to coax the gamer in (motion controls/3d/dlc)

now you want to get into discussion of newer games that don't suck.

I'm a huge fan of the borderlands series (I love rpgs, I love good fps's, I love mad max:winner). but I also love the style (best cel shading Ive seen) and the humor.

and I know this one got some flack, But I absolutely love shadow of the damned, I just wish it had better replay value. and the indie games coming out now on XBLA are extremely addicting.

A new game coming out for all the consoles via download would be right up OPs alley: Retro City Rampage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6sMr-qKmD4

[treismac]

gaming was more magical and hardcore in the 80's and 90's and there was a much better variety of companies, systems and games. the internet brought gaming to the mainstream and modern gaming is too popular and mainstream now and has lost a lot of magic, also way too many sequels these days. Not enough cool original stuff. So ya I blame the internet.

At the same time, without the internet retro gaming would not have experienced the renaissance that it has enjoyed. The internet giveth and it taketh, good sir.

[Kevincal]

At the same time, without the internet retro gaming would not have experienced the renaissance that it has enjoyed. The internet giveth and it taketh, good sir.

Yes and no I say. I think retro gaming would still be very popular without the internet. I mean like with ebay, I can go on there and easily buy tons of games for cheap, it takes away the special feeling that I had in the 80s or 90s when getting 1 game was a big deal. i mean like if you saw an ad in your paper someone selling games it was exciting no matter what price they were asking! Then along came the internet and we are flooded with cheap games to buy lol. which is not a bad thing in the investment sense but in the gaming sense it really took a lot of magic away for me. too many people have too many games these days and i think we have a hard time appreciating them like we did back in the day when we all didnt own boatloads of games. in the 90s i was happy to have 5-10 games for a system i owned at the particular time now its more the norm to have 50-100 games for TONS of systems lol. i think a lot of us are overwhelmed.

[Tupin]

Nostalgia is a funny thing. Twenty years from now, there will be people talking about how they don't make games like Skyward Sword and Halo Reach.

I play good games, no matter what generation they are from. Retro games are not immune from being crap. Think we have too many FPSes these days? In the 90's there were too many one on one fighting games and platformers. There were good ones, sure, but most were just mediocre.

[jb143]

What's funny is that the EXACT same argument was being made for "retro" systems when the NES and SNES were current gen systems.

As far as the whole holodeck thing, technology doesn't usually make huge jumps like that, it transitions. To get there, there has to be many smaller transitions. Modern systems are simply a necessary part of that transition from pong to who knows what's next. But I'm sure the OP knows this which is why I'm not sure why they feel the need to rant.

[Gunstar Hero]

This is exactly what I'm trying to explain to the other kids at my school. A few of them get it, but most are gimmicked by graphics and enhancements that are unnecessary and stupid. Why no one just buys old systems off ebay for 20 bucks rather than 300 and gets 3 times the fun I dont know. It dosent make any sense man, it just dosen't make any sense.

[MyTurnToPlay]

What's funny is that the EXACT same argument was being made for "retro" systems when the NES and SNES were current gen systems.

As far as the whole holodeck thing, technology doesn't usually make huge jumps like that, it transitions. To get there, there has to be many smaller transitions. Modern systems are simply a necessary part of that transition from pong to who knows what's next. But I'm sure the OP knows this which is why I'm not sure why they feel the need to rant.

Well...yes...of course I know that genius. But until we get there...I'm not wasting my money anymore. Like I said...for retro games I'm forgiving ad understanding since they started everything....but for the newer games...it's just gimmicks and graphics. We still have to hold that f*cking controller and stare at a stupid screen. I refuse to do either. I want to be in the game...calling the shots and moving around like I do in the real world. Only thing I see meeting this criteria is the holodeck.

And all this talk about "but there are gems in current systems" blah blah blah is just a bunch of crap. These are the same people who line up to buy re-released versions of Ocarina...further supporting the stupidity of companies...so yeah...your opinion means nothing to me.

thank you.

[Collector_Gaming]

I'm just going to take a seat and watch the show:popcorn:
is the seat next to you free? :popcorn:

on a side note i bought my v2 sega genesis with games lot off a guy who does nothing but retro game. He says newer consoles and games feel too confusing with all the buttons and such *shrug*

[Gooch3008]

Props OP.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/SamTackas/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg


A quick list of excellent games that are more modern. If you think these games are crap, you are wrong. I could easily make a much longer list, too. When you make broad sweeping statements saying modern games "are a bunch of crap" you need to be able to account for games like these.


Diablo 2
Deus Ex
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Unreal Tournament
Half-Life
Metal Gear Solid 1,2,3,4
Half-Life 2
Skyrim
Morrowind
Diablo
Diablo 2
Fallout
Grand Theft Auto (almost all of them)
STALKER
The Witcher 2
Fallout 3
Dragon Age: Origins
Planescape: Torment
Baldurs Gate
System Shock 2
Bioshock
Amnesia
Limbo
Machinarium
Minecraft (yeah....graphics are everything....) :roll:
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Battlefield 3
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Dead Space
Dead Space 2
Supreme Commander
Crysis ( I have no qualms about saying how much graphics are a big part of this game, but it is also a damn good FPS.)
Wizardry 8

I am sure anyone else could make a similar list or a better one.

I suggest you put away your security blanket and forget about "being in the game" cause its not happening in your lifetime, pal. Do yourself a favor and put a controller (gamepad/keyboard/mouse) in your hands and "stare at a stupid screen" displaying any one of these fine games. :)

[Panzerfuzion]

I don't think I'll ever get bored of my NES and SNES...with all their flaws and imperfections...those 2 systems are the only ones that matter to me. Retro games in general I have nothing but love for. But modern video games are complete crap. Just utter and total garbage. I don't know why soo many morons buy the stuff. I realized that tonight while playing Lolo for my NES...taking a break and trying to play something more recent...giving up...and playing Lolo again.

Seriously...all the modern stuff is garbage. It's nothing but gimmicks and fancy graphics. Every mother f-ing new system is just an update to graphics. I don't give a rats behind about graphics...WHY?!?? Because I still have to hold that stupid controller in my hand while staring at some stupid television. I don't want to hold an f-ing thing in my hand. I don't want to stare at a damn screen. I DON'T want to play AS Link. I WANT TO BE LINK. Why the hell can't they make the holodeck from Star Trek. That's what I want. I want myself...physically...to walk around a world and tell Gannon to stop d*cking around and let Zelda go. I want to be able to approach NPC's and tell them to their face that I reject their idiotic sidequests. I want to be Megaman and slap Dr. Wily and then blast him right between the eyes. That's the kind of system I want.

So until that day comes...you'll find me in front of my NES and SNES. The rest...I leave to all the moronic fanboy pricks out there. I'll save my money for a real improvement and update.

thank you.


Calling people that buy current gen systems morons? Calling everything now just fancy graphics and gimmicks? I would normally go into why you're wrong and show you some of the amazing games this gen but you come off as a troll so it's hard to waste anytime with a troll.

[treismac]

Yes and no I say. I think retro gaming would still be very popular without the internet. I mean like with ebay, I can go on there and easily buy tons of games for cheap, it takes away the special feeling that I had in the 80s or 90s when getting 1 game was a big deal. i mean like if you saw an ad in your paper someone selling games it was exciting no matter what price they were asking! Then along came the internet and we are flooded with cheap games to buy lol. which is not a bad thing in the investment sense but in the gaming sense it really took a lot of magic away for me. too many people have too many games these days and i think we have a hard time appreciating them like we did back in the day when we all didnt own boatloads of games. in the 90s i was happy to have 5-10 games for a system i owned at the particular time now its more the norm to have 50-100 games for TONS of systems lol. i think a lot of us are overwhelmed.

Yeah, unfortunately, you're right. This would be a significant part of how the internet "taketh." As great as it is to have the ability to nab so many games at low prices, the magic of having the games has inversely diminished. The first lot I bought off ebay was such a high. The second and third, not so much. Of course, there are new highs to be had with internet video game collecting. Who hasn't been stoked when they won an auction for a game or system they wanted at a low price? Waiting for a game to arrive in the mail really builds up the anticipation in the whole experience. Yet, as you wrote, at the end of the day, having a hundred or so games for multiple systems does overwhelm at times. I think this might take away from certain aspects of the collecting experience, but as a gamer, I do appreciate having such a vast library of games to choose from. While I am playing, say, Mike Tyson's Punch-Out, I don't really think of how I have crates filled other games lying around. I just enjoy playing the game and wonder in the back of my head if I will ever beat Mike Tyson. There isn't that much concern over the fact that I don't have the second release of the game with Mr. Dream when I'm eating a Tyson haymaker.

[Genesaturn]

Gamers are a pretty damn diverse group of people. We all have pretty specific tastes. I'm going to say I generally agree with you. I don't game nearly as much as I used to. Its not because I'm older with more responsibilities either. It's because the amount of games coming out that hold my attention are slowly declining. I personally don't feel that 95% of all modern games don't challenge the player like the classics did. I broke my fair share of controllers of the years, but now its all pretty easy. I think its because gaming has evolved over the years from being only for gamers..to for everyone. But the term gamer has even changed over the years. I didn't know a single person growing up with a game console that didn't treat it like their prized possession and play it religiously. Now a days everyone has game consoles, people of all walks of life and they have become more like the family DVD player, its just there for convenience when you feel up to using it.

There are still some good modern games. I've been playing Skyrim a lot lately, but again - its the 1st non retro game purchase for me since...November.

[Az]

In the 90's there were too many one on one fighting games

Sir, there can never ever be too many one-on-one fighting games.

Ever.

[treismac]

Sir, there can never ever be too many one-on-one fighting games.

Ever.

Hahaha!!! I agree, but, to play Devil's advocate, have you ever heard of Time Killers?

http://www.emuviews.com/images/ss/timekillers1.gif

*shudders*

[G-Boobie]

I have to take a shit. Excuse me.

Why bother? The OP has clearly taken one already.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Just one? I seem to recall something about Earthbound... But it's retro-awesome right? Oh, shit...

[Gameguy]

Just one? I seem to recall something about Earthbound... But it's retro-awesome right? Oh, shit...
For reference;
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?153089



Just to be ahead of the curve.

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[kupomogli]

If you think these games are crap, you are wrong.

Grand Theft Auto (almost all of them)
Fallout 3
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Crysis ( I have no qualms about saying how much graphics are a big part of this game, but it is also a damn good FPS.)


I've never played the original Crysis, however I've heard the game isn't very good and it was used in nothing more than a pc spec benchmark. As for the rest, aside from the GTA4 series and San Andreas, these games suck.

Anyways, I'll say that most games released this gen are crap, but that doesn't mean everything this gen is. I will follow the Gooch's idea as he did list a lot of great games. Current gen games only, not including portables.

Mirror's Edge
Dante's Inferno
Devil May Cry 4
Lords of Shadow
X Men Origins Wolverine
Saboteur
Uncharted 1, 2, and 3
Gears of War 1, 2, and 3
Yakuza 3 and 4
Demon's Souls
Twisted Metal (which I absolutely love, except the game has some of the shittiest online servers ever in a game.)
Batman Arkham Asylum/City
Armored Core 4/For Answer
Valkyria Chronicles
Resident Evil 5
Sacred 2
Stranglehold
Infamous 2
Siren the Bloodcurse
3D Dot Game Heroes
Heavy Rain
Saints Row the Third
Final Fantasy Fables Chocobo's Dungeon
Silent Hill Shattered Memories

I still believe this gen sucks balls and has nothing on most previous console generations, but there are enough good games that come out on the new consoles to keep my backlog on an almost indefinite hold. Even with how bad most of the games are, some of the games released this gen could be considered some of the best games ever made.

[aryoshi]

Robotron: 2084 in virtual reality plzkthx.

[madman77]

Sir, there can never ever be too many one-on-one fighting games.

Ever.
Spend some time with the Jaguar fighter library and get back to me.

[Gooch3008]

I find it hilarious that guy thought infamous 2 was good but thinks mass effect 1&2 sucked :roll:

both of the infamous games were quite mediocre.

[Atarileaf]

Sounds like the OP would like to spend some time in the "Oasis".

The whole idea of playing retro games in a holodeck simulator is pretty much the basis for this book, which is an awesome read BTW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ready_Player_One

[kedawa]

Spend some time with the Jaguar fighter library and get back to me.

I don't know man. If you added more fighters to that library, they couldn't possibly be worse than what's already there.
If the system had gotten ports of MKII and Virtua Fighter, I'd be pretty happy about it.

[turboexpress]

I love retro games and that's what I play most, but to say that all modern games suck is pushing it.

I really like the Grand Theft Auto Series. I bought PS2 just to play those. GTA 1 and 2 are great. GTA III, Vice City, LSS, VCS are all amazing games.

I never played GTA4 or any of the newer ones. But like I said saying that all modern games suck is absolute dumb talk.

[kedawa]

When making these modern vs. classic arguments, people tend to compare the entirety of classic gaming to the current generation at the time.
By those standards, modern gaming can never compete.

[importaku]

LOL from the rather immature rant of the OP it seems we have one of these here poser gamers that thinks they look cool if they only like retro. ZOMG im teh h@rcOre as i rock it oldskoolz, all games become retro after enough years have passed. When you actually grow up you will realise this.

Real gamers love games from any year & can quite happily play the most ancient to the most modern. Totally writing off anything modern just shows you up as a failiure of a gamer.

[treismac]

But like I said saying that all modern games suck is absolute dumb talk.

I concur. There has been a sizable handful of new school games that have made for some incredible gaming- not enough to completely forget about the inundation of First Person Shooters, but enough to make the statement that all non-retro games suck absolutely asinine. Any man or woman who can't enjoy Katamari Damacy has no soul, retro or otherwise.


... all games become retro after enough years have passed. When you actually grow up you will realise this..

There was a rather dated book about video games that I checked out from my library. In one chapter there were interviews with pioneer "retro" gamers who praised the magnificence of the Atari 2600 and lamented how the Nintendo's games had no personality and were all derivative. I couldn't help but chuckle a little. I can understand having rose tinted glasses for all things nostalgia in video games or otherwise, but to crap on everything post your glory days is ridiculous. But, you know, perhaps once fixed screen video games died, the entire spirit of gaming went with it... That's why I only play Super Mario Bros. Special by Hudson and the original Mario Bros. when I want my Mario fix.

[Gamevet]

Well...yes...of course I know that genius. But until we get there...I'm not wasting my money anymore. Like I said...for retro games I'm forgiving ad understanding since they started everything....but for the newer games...it's just gimmicks and graphics. We still have to hold that f*cking controller and stare at a stupid screen. I refuse to do either. I want to be in the game...calling the shots and moving around like I do in the real world. Only thing I see meeting this criteria is the holodeck.

Games like Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas, Skyrim and Oblivion pretty much offer everything you've described, minus the holodeck. They offer virtual worlds where you can determine the outcome for just about everything but the game's ending.




And all this talk about "but there are gems in current systems" blah blah blah is just a bunch of crap. These are the same people who line up to buy re-released versions of Ocarina...further supporting the stupidity of companies...so yeah...your opinion means nothing to me.

thank you.

I used to love playing the Atari 2600 back in the day, but even I can't admit that it offers a great gaming experience today. It has a few gems here and there, but for the most part, the library is pretty mediocre.

[Jack7]

LOL from the rather immature rant of the OP it seems we have one of these here poser gamers that thinks they look cool if they only like retro. ZOMG im teh h@rcOre as i rock it oldskoolz, all games become retro after enough years have passed. When you actually grow up you will realise this.

Real gamers love games from any year & can quite happily play the most ancient to the most modern. Totally writing off anything modern just shows you up as a failiure of a gamer.

oh god hipster gamers?

[slip81]

I tried to play Super Mario World, but when I couldn't walk around a goomba in 3-D I got so mad that I stomped on the SNES till it turned to dust. Then I went and bitch slapped some flying turtle moron asshole in New Super Mario Bros. Wii

[treismac]

oh god hipster gamers?

Here is an interesting and entertaining comparison between Geeks and Hipsters.

http://francisjav.tumblr.com/tagged/Geek

[RulerStabInTheEye27]

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[o.pwuaioc]

There has always been plenty of filler and crap all the way back to the beginning.

I won't totally write off all modern games, but the main difference between now and the Classic period (mid-80s through the 90s) is that then filler games weren't the most popular (sports games aside), while now Halo-clones are the popular games. No one ever played and no one will remember Time Killers. The same can't be said for the plethora of repetitive first person shooters that currently plague modern gen systems.

[theclaw]

This topic's answer is simple: inept programming.

Often a common symptom is bad framerates.

It crumbles various games today. All the inventive gameplay, environments, and voice acting one could muster, is nothing when actual play feels sluggish in motion.

Sorry but users who find "acceptable" from a development viewpoint the performance of things like Mass Effect, Morrowind, or GTA4 on consoles, Last Remnant 360 without HDD install, etc... Really have no professional place in the business. As much as they're welcome to still play and enjoy games from outside our industry!

[kedawa]

The thing that really turns me away from modern consoles is the simple fact that the big games are just plain better on PC.
That wasn't the case in the 16-bit days. If you wanted to play a decent shmup or fighting game, consoles were the only way to go.

[treismac]

I won't totally write off all modern games, but the main difference between now and the Classic period (mid-80s through the 90s) is that then filler games weren't the most popular (sports games aside), while now Halo-clones are the popular games. No one ever played and no one will remember Time Killers. The same can't be said for the plethora of repetitive first person shooters that currently plague modern gen systems.

While I'm not sure if it's "funny," I share Homer's sentiment.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY

[gameofyou]

I gave up on new systems after the Dreamcast. 99% of the time I am playing Saturn. I guess it also depends on how much free time you can commit to gaming.

[turboexpress]

but the bottom line is, saying that ALL modern game are whack is absolute stupidity. You should re-evaluate yourself as a gamer if you think that.

[kupomogli]

Retro games rock... everything else makes me sick... it's crap.

PARADOX!

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/all/boxshots2/971481_148121.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/all/boxshots2/956931_125378.jpg

http://zeboyd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Official-Box-Art.bmp

[Orion Pimpdaddy]

Pick up an old video game magazine from any generation and you'll see letters to the editor complaining about "modern" games ("I don't need to upgrade to 16-bit because I don't care about graphics). They should call such an attitude, retrobias.

[Kevincal]

Also pick up any old video game magazine from the 90s and you have the proof in your hands how much better gaming was then compared to now. magazines then had 200-400 pages a month now gaming mags are going extinct and the ones out there have like 80 pages, and cost too much, ya i know the internet is to blame but still i believe the passion for gaming has mostly gone. it was just much more interesting and exciting in the 90's now far too many dumb idiots are into modern gaming and its too mainstream from my tastes and i dont care at all for war based games which seems 75% of games are these days. theres little variety, sure pretty 3d FPSs and uh, not much else. oh ya loads of rehashed racing games. gaming nearly died from me with the current generation. i have a ps3 and wii and ONE game for each, f1 2010 and wii sports and i could care less to get any more games, pretty pathetic, and i dont care about handhelds. despise them, and i never liked pc gaming. im just getting old and bitter i guess, 30 years old.. gaming has lost its magic for me.

the same goes for movies as well, they were hell of a lot better in the 90s than now, music too. and its not just nostalgia tons of young kids admit their generation is crap and for instance on youtube you will notice loads and loads of teenagers into 90s gaming cus they realize how cool it is, the massive variety of systems and games. lets take for instance, i dunno, the year 1995. you could buy at many stores NES SNES GEnesis 32X sega cd Saturn CD1 3do game boy game gear neo geo, turbografx , tg16, playstation, jaguar, jaguar cd i know right HOLY SHIT and the games to choose from and magazines, there was atleast 10 good gaming mags going, and the internet was fairly new. it was just an AWESOME time. way better that now. way better. economy was kick ass as well.

[RulerStabInTheEye27]

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[Smashed Brother]

I love me some retro games (especially old arcade games) and I've talked about it many times on this forum. I enjoy the simplicity of those old games, where the main goal was to get the highest score. But there are a couple of current-gen games that I picked up dirt cheap on the PC that I have been enjoying lately. Some of them are pretty damn good to kill time with.

[turboexpress]

I agree that the gaming magazine era was far much superior in the 80's and 90's. Those were the golden days.

The thing is gaming magazines do not dictate the actual gaming. If those type of publications existed these days, maybe they will
actually introduce and promote the good stuff that is really out there.

So maybe it's the modern way of advertising and the modern trends is what's giving modern gaming such an overall bad image, especially towards a more retro gamer like most of us here. idk. just a thought

There are many good modern games out there, I don't really have the time or the energy to get into a completely new era of gaming, but I know theres some good stuff out there that they are doing now. They just feed us all the wrong BS.

[The 1 2 P]

Sonic the Hedgehog is a difficult game

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say that Sonic was difficult. While I enjoyed and beat Sonic 1-3 multiple times each I never once thought of them as difficult or hard.


Gaming is dead. Its too late to bring it back.

How many years have people been saying PC gaming is dead? A decade or so. And you can still play games on your PC. I don't play PC games but my point is that gaming will never die. Neither will movies, tv, books or music. They will all just continue to evolve.

[Press_Start]

Modern games are essentially too easy now.

I'll do one better. Games today play themselves. It's no longer "You vs Game", now it's "Game vs Itself and You the Button Monkey Sidekick". That's what happening, we're devolving into the "useful idiot" for 9-10 hours of mild, mediocre entertainment. And after watching the Call of "Doo"ty video, it only cements the fact companies aren't developing for people that like to play games but people that like to watch them. The video game industry is becoming a spectator's sport and it's painfully obvious that we no longer play as the heroes, just the sidekicks.

[Gamevet]

I'll do one better. Games today play themselves. It's no longer "You vs Game", now it's "Game vs Itself and You the Button Monkey Sidekick". That's what happening, we're devolving into the "useful idiot" for 9-10 hours of mild, mediocre entertainment. And after watching the Call of "Doo"ty video, it only cements the fact companies aren't developing for people that like to play games but people that like to watch them. The video game industry is becoming a spectator's sport and it's painfully obvious that we no longer play as the heroes, just the sidekicks.

Have you played Demon's Souls?

[treismac]

Button Monkey Sidekick

nice...

[Press_Start]

Have you played Demon's Souls?

You forgot Dark Souls. :)

It doesn't undercut my point though. Actually, it's the exception that proves the rule. I believe SCEA didn't want to localize in the US cause they thought it was too hard (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/10/why-sony-passed-on-publishing-demons-souls-in-america/).

[kedawa]

I'll do one better. Games today play themselves. It's no longer "You vs Game", now it's "Game vs Itself and You the Button Monkey Sidekick". That's what happening, we're devolving into the "useful idiot" for 9-10 hours of mild, mediocre entertainment. And after watching the Call of "Doo"ty video, it only cements the fact companies aren't developing for people that like to play games but people that like to watch them. The video game industry is becoming a spectator's sport and it's painfully obvious that we no longer play as the heroes, just the sidekicks.

If you're playing Call of Duty for campaign mode, you're doing it wrong.
Multi-player is the exact opposite of the hand-holding theme-park ride that passes for a single-player game.

[Emperor Megas]

Three Pages? Seriously? Why are you guys replying to this thread?

[Gamevet]

You forgot Dark Souls. :)

It doesn't undercut my point though. Actually, it's the exception that proves the rule. I believe SCEA didn't want to localize in the US cause they thought it was too hard (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/02/10/why-sony-passed-on-publishing-demons-souls-in-america/).

Yeah, but there are plenty of difficult games on the current gen consoles. Just because you can play Bioshock on normal difficulty, doesn't mean that you can't make it more challenging by cranking up the difficulty levels. The same with Fallout: New Vegas or Dead Space.

Seriously, there's too many people trying to compare arcade style games to next gen games that are anything but that genre. Why not compare them to something like Geometry Wars, Pac-Man C.E., Super Stardust or Street Fighter IV?
I could list a bunch of games from the 16-bit era that were not difficult at all, like The Legend of Zelda: LTTP, Secret of Mana, Lunar: SSS, Snatcher or Starfox. If you're playing games in this generation that are too easy for you, then maybe you need to be a little more selective with your purchases, especially when someone buying a kiddy game like Sonic and the Secret Rings finds it too easy and doesn't seem to know why it is that way.