Next PlayStation may be called Orbis

[markusman64ds]

From G4,


The next PlayStation console, the PS4, may be called (or codenamed) Orbis. The latest next-gen Sony console rumors come from Kotaku's sources and reveal a holiday 2013 release date.

According to the Kotaku's sources, Orbis will have an AMD x64 CPU and an AMD Southern Islands GPU, a high-end PC card. The Orbis would also have a resolution of 4096x2160. Most households don't have HDTVs that are capable of displaying that, yet. The Orbis will be powerful enough to play 3D games in 1080p.

That's all the good news. The bad news: The system reportedly won't be backwards compatible with PS3 titles. If you think that's surprising, then you're not going to like this. The Orbis will have some type of feature that will prevent gamers from playing used games. Supposedly, Games will be purchased on a Blu-ray disc or via PSN download and only be playable on one PSN account. It's not clear how Sony would limit the use of retail copies. It's possible a used copy would only give you access to a trial of the game.

So what does Orbis mean? Wikipedia says it's a Doctor Who audio play. That doesn't help us at all unless Kaz Hirai will be the 12th Doctor. In Latin Orbis means "circle, orb, ring, disk, orbit, coil/ round / rotation." This could indicate the shape, the logo of the console. Orbis could just be the codename, similar to the Kinect's first name: Natal.

No matter what it's called, I'm going to be honest; this doesn't sound like a console I would buy. The anti-used games policy seems to punish gamers. Are these the features you want from the PS4?

Hopefully the whole "used games" thing is just a rumor. If it isn't, I have a feeling that the Wii U will win this console war.

[Rickstilwell1]

See I think when it comes to "used discs don't work", I think it's better off to just download the game instead of buy a physical copy. 1 - costs less. 2- it's tied to your account for re-download. 3 - the game is married to your console anyway, so what's the difference of buying a disc in this case. Especially if they decide to go green and make manuals digital only.

[Slipdeath]

See I think when it comes to "used discs don't work", I think it's better off to just download the game instead of buy a physical copy. 1 - costs less. 2- it's tied to your account for re-download. 3 - the game is married to your console anyway, so what's the difference of buying a disc in this case. Especially if they decide to go green and make manuals digital only.

Downloads will never be "used", and missing that whole aspect will result in higher priced games. Then again, this is shaping up to be an endless argument of tangible physicality versus convenient practicality.

[Emperor Megas]

For these last 2 cycles, the only consoles that they haven't said "it won't play used games" about have been Nintendo console. It hasn't been true yet, and I won't believe it is about the next console releases either until it's actually proven.

[Gameguy]

Will this new Playstation Orbis also allow me to book the cheapest rates on hotels, flights, and car rentals like that website?

[The 1 2 P]

I'm not worrid about the lost of backwards compatibility if that rumor turns out to be true. But not allowing used games to be played is pretty annoying. We have now heard the same rumor for both next gen consoles. Yes it's just a rumor but I have a feeling that each system might have a method of employing this for all games but may only use it to test on certain titles. It's a rumor that hopefully turns out to be false for both systems.

[NayusDante]

Will this new Playstation Orbis also allow me to book the cheapest rates on hotels, flights, and car rentals like that website?

Maybe with the built-in browser, but that's Orbitz. It doesn't even rhyme with Orbis. Orbis rhymes with Ogg Vorbis, which like web browsing will probably be supported at launch and removed 10-12 months later.

Judging by their track record, if this IS a real plan, the 2000/slim revision will remove the optical drive entirely. They're not going to give us Linux again, so expect existing features to evaporate/evolve.

[The 1 2 P]

While reading about this console on two other sites it also says that this new system would require a constant internet connection to be able to play any of your games. That just can't be true, unless Sony wanted to willingly forfeit the next gen to their rivals.

[NayusDante]

Someone is going to take the dive and require a connection. It's going to happen eventually. If anyone can do it, though, it's Sony. The market might not be ready for it just yet, but it will be in five years when the PS3 is finally on its way out. They're the only company ever to be able to sustain two home consoles at once for extended periods. The PS3 will still sell in areas without accessible broadband, while the PS4 will flop around like the PS3 did in 2006-2008. It might be slow, but it works.

If the iPad can move crazy numbers, it's time for a connected console.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

thank god i held on to my original launch 60 gig ps3, best 3 systems ever released all on one console! lol



if all 3 next gen systems have some sort of anti used game feature included, just off principle u can count me out, i had a good run, gives me more time to catch up on my ps1 rpgs


i dont even really buy used, im usually a day 1 preorder so it shouldnt affect me, but i cant in good conscience support something like this, they pull shit like this and then want to act like somehow WE'RE the entitled ones, they shouldnt get a cut out of something they already got their money out of the first time, but its not like they havent found ways to get money out of that, why do you think cod, the most popular game of all time doesnt include any online code? because even if you bought the game used, theres a good chance that you'll still pay for the ridiculously overpriced dlc....again and again and again and again

[Slipdeath]

Well if you think about it the whole one-time use strategy has already been implemented in some 3DS and Vita games, and to a smaller degree with the requirement of online passes.

[Griking]

For these last 2 cycles, the only consoles that they haven't said "it won't play used games" about have been Nintendo console.

lol the only console who's games I'm not interested in playing.


While reading about this console on two other sites it also says that this new system would require a constant internet connection to be able to play any of your games. That just can't be true, unless Sony wanted to willingly forfeit the next gen to their rivals.

Forfeit it to who, the rival who has the same rumors circulating or the one which is rumored to have only current gen graphics in its next gen console?

[substantial_snake]

I am really tired of the PC-ifying of consoles. I have both and play both frequently for entirely different reasons. If I have to deal with more PC bullshit without any of the benefits then I wont be buying the next round of consoles.

[kedawa]

Huh? This kind of shit is the exact opposite of PC, where no company can impose these kinds of anti-consumer policies on the entire platform.
At least when a PC game has some bullshit DRM, you can just choose to buy a different game that doesn't have it. With a console, every publisher will be forced to operate the same way, so there's no choice, and no chance for consumers to reward good publishers at the expense of the bad ones.

[Trebuken]

I think they are gambling that a majority of people will but games new. That these are the customers they want to sell the consoles to and those who buy used games will have to buy an activation code which will cost how much??? the same price as the new game???

It seems there will be no backwards compatibility. They are moving from the Cell Processor to and AMD processor. Emulation of the PS3 does not seem like an easy task; if it were compatibility would probably start low (like the Xbox 360).

I don't think you will need a constant internet connection, just an internet connection that will allow you to activate the games. They will want to make the system as accessible as possible.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

I think they are gambling that a majority of people will but games new. That these are the customers they want to sell the consoles to and those who buy used games will have to buy an activation code which will cost how much??? the same price as the new game???

It seems there will be no backwards compatibility. They are moving from the Cell Processor to and AMD processor. Emulation of the PS3 does not seem like an easy task; if it were compatibility would probably start low (like the Xbox 360).

I don't think you will need a constant internet connection, just an internet connection that will allow you to activate the games. They will want to make the system as accessible as possible.


maybe im a cynic, but that entire "no backwards compatibility" seems to be by design, they'll use the whole "incompatible architecture" of the new chip as an excuse, then a year or so down the line, they'll just resell "updated" ps3 games that we probably already own except now instead of 720p, maybe it'll run at 1080p or some shit

[The 1 2 P]

Forfeit it to who, the rival who has the same rumors circulating or the one which is rumored to have only current gen graphics in its next gen console?

Neither Microsoft nor Nintendo have been rumored to require a constant internet connection in order to play ALL games for their next gen consoles. That one just started with Sony's Orbis and if true(we all know it's just a rumor for now) would certainly drive potential PS4 consumers to Microsofts or Nintendos next consoles that didn't require a constant internet connection to play all games, including single player ones.

[Gamevet]

Will this new Playstation Orbis also allow me to book the cheapest rates on hotels, flights, and car rentals like that website?

Maybe it will give you a sparkling smile, each time you use it. :p

[Clownzilla]

The big three have totally sucked the fun out of gaming for me. I guess the biggest issues for me is the MASSIVE expansion of DLC . I don't blame these companies for doing this because it's better for their investors but as a gamer it's getting way too unecissarily complicated and expensive. Retro Gaming (in this case last gen and before) has never been so attractive as it is now.

[thegamezmaster]

The big three have totally sucked the fun out of gaming for me. I guess the biggest issues for me is the MASSIVE expansion of DLC . I don't blame these companies for doing this because it's better for their investors but as a gamer it's getting way too unecissarily complicated and expensive. Retro Gaming (in this case last gen and before) has never been so attractive as it is now.

Amen! Glad I've got so many retro consoles! Or just play what I have and say screw 'em!

[parallaxscroll]

What matters most is what class of AMD Southern Islands GPU the PS4 GPU is based on. There's a huge range. So basicly, we still know nothing about PS4 "Orbis".

[DOAsaturn]

A few more arguments against the banning of used games and pure digital distribution

1) This can very well kill social gaming in person - or at least hamper it. Instead of taking games over to other people's places, now you'll have to drag the whole console over. Different people own different games, be prepared to swap consoles in and out. So much for the ease and convenience of digital distribution there...

2) If we are required to be connected to the internet at all times - what happens when the network is down? Is the console a brick everytime during network outages?

3) How about years after the console is done? Tell me - how many online games are even still supported on the PS2 - not many. How about Dreamcast? Pretty much zero, at least with official support. Are we to rely on Sony or any other company who puts this into effect to make sure these games are still playable 5-10-20-30 years or more down the road... People still play the Atari 2600, people still play the NES. These systems may leave very little legacy in this new age.

4) The collector market would likely go away entirely. Limited Edition would matter a lot less. "Rare" games wouldn't really matter much anymore. Collectability of games would go down drastically. The devaluation of the product, once purchased, would be an enormous drop off - something the likes of which has probably never been seen in our economy. Who else could say something, anything, purchased for $60 could be worth so little once used...

I think a possible solution that may satisfy any company seriously looking to do this is to have a window for new games - say 3-6 months or maybe even a year. After this window, all bets are off and the game can be sold and played by anyone at anytime...

[Tupin]

No company wants to be the first one to go download only, but it will happen. I think there should be some sort of offline mode, just to account for outages.

The thing is, playing retro games is a very niche market. Companies never consider future accessibility because they either want you to be playing their new games or downloading them through their distribution channels.

Still, there has to be preservation out there. Collectors are already working with such a small amount of material to preserve, even only twenty/thirty years after they were made. Imagine how little of 1980's computer history wouldn't exist by the 2060's or 2070's if people didn't try to actively catalog and collect a seemingly unimportant part of history.

[Clownzilla]

Amen! Glad I've got so many retro consoles! Or just play what I have and say screw 'em!

When I look at it I could probably play retro games 24-7 and still not finish everything I want to finish before I die. I guess this gives me an excuse to stop the viscous cycle of keeping up with systems:)

[Press_Start]

I think they are gambling that a majority of people will but games new. That these are the customers they want to sell the consoles to and those who buy used games will have to buy an activation code which will cost how much??? the same price as the new game???

Then they might as well shoot themselves in the foot with a bazooka. I bet dollars to donuts, if this "no used game" idea were implemented right now today, a good chunk of their sales will instantly evaporate since they don't realize their consumer base can't afford $60 without used games cause trade-in's pay a significant portion of the expense.

And as an unintended consequence, many gamers will either be put off or turn to piracy. How ironic. :p

[TonyTheTiger]

And as an unintended consequence, many gamers will either be put off or turn to piracy. How ironic. :p

While I'm not entirely convinced any of this is true, assuming it is for the sake of argument, I don't get why this isn't a more common idea. It seems empirically provable that piracy increases in conjunction with other desirable exploits since it usually comes as a side effect of other less damaging goals. Back in the PlayStation days, modchips became a big deal for imports. The PS3 was pretty much left alone until it became open season after OtherOS's removal. It seems like you can stave off extreme cases of focused attacks on the integrity of your console (thereby reducing the odds of a massive piracy outbreak early on) by giving people just a little bit of freedom. If you give a little freedom most people smart enough to crack the machine will be satisfied with the status quo. But give them nearly no freedom and they join in a concentrated effort to engineer complete freedom. It's a matter of picking your battles.

[duffmanth]

Sony needs to do whatever they can to keep the cost of the PS4 down and if that means taking out BC and using off the shelf processors and graphics from AMD or whoever, they should do it. They can't release another console at $500-600 again, it'll be the PS3 launch all over again. I also firmly believe that any console manufacturer that tries to restrict the use of used games and/or comes out with a digital only system will be committing suicide right out of the gates. Digital downloading is fine for older retro games that cost $5 and are small files that download quickly and don't take up much room on your hard drive. However, when I'm paying $60 for a modern title like Uncharted 3 for example, I want a physical copy. I don't wanna pay $60, then wait 3 hours for the file to download and install and take up several gigs on my drive.

[WCP]

Downloads will never be "used", and missing that whole aspect will result in higher priced games. The crazy thing is, companies like Steam and Amazon PC downloads and GamersGate will have some huge PC games on sale for $5 here and there. I've gotten my best ever values in gaming by being a PC gamer. As long as you're patient, every single PC game will end up on sale for $5. Of course, this is Steam we are talking about. This is Amazon PC downloads.


Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft aren't going to have those kinds of sales. Here is a list of games that I've bought for 5 bucks since building a gaming PC:

Bulletstorm
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
Assassin's Creed 2
Darksiders
Red Faction: Guerilla
Just Cause 2
Dead Space 1
Dead Space 2
Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum GOTY
Modern Warfare 2
Fallout 3 GOTY
NBA 2K11
Assassin's Creed
Far Cry 2
Civ IV



All those games were big time games when they first came out. Sure, when I finally ended up getting them, most of them were one year old, sometimes more than a year old, when I got them for 5 bucks, but Bulletstorm wasn't even a full year old. Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit, at the time I bought it, was barely a year old, if that. Dead Space 2 was barely a year old when I got it. Red Faction: Guerilla and Just Cause 2 were slightly less than 1 year old when I got them. I can't even imagine these games costing only 5 bucks on a Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo platform. It's just not going to happen. Look at Xbox Live Marketplace, or look at PSN. You just don't see games for 5 bucks. If you do, those games are not the AAA tentpole release games. They are smaller, bite sized games. The lowest you'll see a legitimate, bit time game, is maybe $9.99, and that is a VERY rare event. Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft just don't understand the concept of temporarily slashing the prices 75 percent on a handful of games, and constantly rotating the sales. Steam understands it. Amazon PC downloads understands it. GamersGate, sometimes understand it.

Maybe it's a case of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft being such huge companies, that they don't feel the need to have to mark their stuff down to really low prices, to drive a buying frenzy. Maybe they feel it's better to keep the prices artificially inflated, because the sheeplike consumer masses will eventually get used to it. Why cater to a smaller population of cheapo gamers that only wait for super discounts?

[Gamevet]

The crazy thing is, companies like Steam and Amazon PC downloads and GamersGate will have some huge PC games on sale for $5 here and there. I've gotten my best ever values in gaming by being a PC gamer. As long as you're patient, every single PC game will end up on sale for $5. Of course, this is Steam we are talking about. This is Amazon PC downloads.


Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft aren't going to have those kinds of sales. Here is a list of games that I've bought for 5 bucks since building a gaming PC:

Bulletstorm
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
Assassin's Creed 2
Darksiders
Red Faction: Guerilla
Just Cause 2
Dead Space 1
Dead Space 2
Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum GOTY
Modern Warfare 2
Fallout 3 GOTY
NBA 2K11
Assassin's Creed
Far Cry 2
Civ IV



All those games were big time games when they first came out. Sure, when I finally ended up getting them, most of them were one year old, sometimes more than a year old, when I got them for 5 bucks, but Bulletstorm wasn't even a full year old. Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit, at the time I bought it, was barely a year old, if that. Dead Space 2 was barely a year old when I got it. Red Faction: Guerilla and Just Cause 2 were slightly less than 1 year old when I got them. I can't even imagine these games costing only 5 bucks on a Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo platform. It's just not going to happen. Look at Xbox Live Marketplace, or look at PSN. You just don't see games for 5 bucks. If you do, those games are not the AAA tentpole release games. They are smaller, bite sized games. The lowest you'll see a legitimate, bit time game, is maybe $9.99, and that is a VERY rare event. Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft just don't understand the concept of temporarily slashing the prices 75 percent on a handful of games, and constantly rotating the sales. Steam understands it. Amazon PC downloads understands it. GamersGate, sometimes understand it.

Maybe it's a case of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft being such huge companies, that they don't feel the need to have to mark their stuff down to really low prices, to drive a buying frenzy. Maybe they feel it's better to keep the prices artificially inflated, because the sheeplike consumer masses will eventually get used to it. Why cater to a smaller population of cheapo gamers that only wait for super discounts?

I have physical PC copies of most of those titles and I got them all for under $10 each at Half-Price Books.

[The 1 2 P]

So heres some good news (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-16-playstation-4-to-use-gaikai-for-backwards-compatibility) for the PS4/Orbis. Sony will allow full PS3 backwards compatible support on the new system via Gaikai. No word on rather you will be able to use your current game disc or have to play download versions but I think this is a nice step in the right direction for the PS4. Hopefully they will reveal alittle more about this next week.

[substantial_snake]

Interesting if true, provides at least some solution to backwards compatibility while at the same time dropping the Cell in favor of more standard hardware. Definitely not ideal for everyone but something is better then nothing, I hope however to have hardware emulation for both PS1 and PS2 games. I know its a long shot considering how PSN released seemed to have worked for them but its a feature I'ed want to have regardless. The only real negative is I could see Sony tying it to PS+ instead of an innate feature of PSN. Would be nice for those with a connection for consistent streaming but with my connection I'm just going to keep my PS3.

Anyone seen shots of the new controller prototype yet? I kinda like it, looks chunkier and the concave/convex sticks look like they could accommodate both schools of thought. I really hope that the D-pad is modeled after the Vita's as it seems, seriously the best D-pad I've used yet by far. I'm at a loss to how move functionality is going to work on a single non-splitting controller in any meaningful way. Not too sure about the touch screen/pad either but willing to try new things, make me very interested to see what Microsoft is doing for the Nextbox controller.

http://www.abload.de/img/1d2kkl.jpg

https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/434/1840/original.jpg

[WCP]

The D-Pad looks better....

[retroguy]

What would really be better is if Sony would come up with some of their own ideas instead of swiping everything from Nintendo. First they take the idea of a motion control "wand" (it's not a Wiimote, we swear!) and now they take the idea of having a touch screen on the controller? Oy. There's nothing wrong with borrowing as long as you're honest enough to admit what you're doing which, as far as I know, Sony is not.

[danawhitaker]

What would really be better is if Sony would come up with some of their own ideas instead of swiping everything from Nintendo. First they take the idea of a motion control "wand" (it's not a Wiimote, we swear!) and now they take the idea of having a touch screen on the controller? Oy. There's nothing wrong with borrowing as long as you're honest enough to admit what you're doing which, as far as I know, Sony is not.

I think it's speculative to say whether they took the touchscreen idea from Nintendo or not. Look around next time you're in public. *Really* look. When I'm in the lobby at school, when I'm at my daughter's ballet class, everyone around me has some kind of touchscreen device, either an iPhone, an iPad, iPod, or some kind of Android equivalent. The ballet studio even has free wifi, so we all sit there on our devices idling time away. Nintendo adopting a touchscreen on the Wii U certainly helped push them over the edge I'm sure, but touchscreen devices are everywhere.

[kedawa]

Wii U is nothing but a ripoff of PS3+Vita.
Why can't Nintendo be honest about their idea thievery!?

[Gamevet]

What would really be better is if Sony would come up with some of their own ideas instead of swiping everything from Nintendo. First they take the idea of a motion control "wand" (it's not a Wiimote, we swear!) and now they take the idea of having a touch screen on the controller? Oy. There's nothing wrong with borrowing as long as you're honest enough to admit what you're doing which, as far as I know, Sony is not.

Sony already had the move idea with the Eye Toy on the PS2. There were games where you could block balls and punch items using your hands. Sony didn't do anything with it until they decided to bring out the move using the same camera.

[kupomogli]

With the new touch pad, if you think about it, it might work with FPS' better than anything else as it may as well be a mouse on the PS4 controller. Let's say you're playing a FPS and the touch pad as your camera movement instead of the right analog. You press any location and move your finger over a bit while holding down, and then just stop, you'd turn specifically that distance and stop. It definitely would be an uncomfortable way to play due to touch pad location, but it would control better that way, PC like, than how analog sticks do.

If Uncharted 4 came out on the PS4, pressing down on the pad would have Drake pull out a grenade and the target would show on screen. Dragging your finger on the screen would have him aim for it to be thrown closer or further back, up and down, and what direction, left or right.

Gameplay would obviously be on a game by game basis, but just some ways I think it'll be used.

I think adding Move support to the system and controller from day one is a good idea as well. It'll receive more support since it's a part of the system rather than an accessory.

[kedawa]

I really hope there's a SKU without cameras and other extraneous crap.

[kupomogli]

Sony's new Playstation tagline should be "PS4. Watching you 24/7."

[The 1 2 P]

I really hope there's a SKU without cameras and other extraneous crap.

I'm betting that both Microsoft and Sony have all their extra motion controls bundled with each system from the start in order to avoid fragmenting the user base. But the good news is that motion controls will likely still be optional for most of the games.

[Rob2600]

I think it's speculative to say whether they took the touchscreen idea from Nintendo or not. Look around next time you're in public. *Really* look. When I'm in the lobby at school, when I'm at my daughter's ballet class, everyone around me has some kind of touchscreen device, either an iPhone, an iPad, iPod, or some kind of Android equivalent. The ballet studio even has free wifi, so we all sit there on our devices idling time away. Nintendo adopting a touchscreen on the Wii U certainly helped push them over the edge I'm sure, but touchscreen devices are everywhere.

What year did the DS come out?

[kupomogli]

What year did the DS come out?

There were other devices that had touch screens long before the 3DS. PDAs had touch screens in the 90s, maybe earlier.


The Newton is not the first device with a touch-screen and handwriting recognition, though. The Linus Write-Top incorporated both six years earlier in 1987, but the user has to train the Write-Top before it will recognize their handwriting.

http://oldcomputers.net/apple-newton.html

Searching a bit more in Google, I've found that touch screens were first developed in the later half of the 1960s.

[Tupin]

There were other devices that had touch screens long before the 3DS. PDAs had touch screens in the 90s, maybe earlier.



http://oldcomputers.net/apple-newton.html
The thing is, the DS made touch screens popular again. Just like how tablet PCs were seen as bulky and essentially useless before the iPad, touch screens were associated with PDAs where you couldn't really get anything done on.

[kupomogli]

I'm not saying the DS didn't make touch screen gaming popular, because I know it's the first time I've ever played a game on a touch screen device, even if there were other devices out there that could. But it's the second post someone has made in this thread that implies Nintendo is the inventor of everything and everyone else just copies Nintendo.

[Tupin]

I'd say that Nintendo can often be the Apple of the gaming industry, as in they come up with ideas that other companies take and make far better, but then I realized that they still have the best motion gaming.

[danawhitaker]

What year did the DS come out?

The original DS came out in 2004. Before anyone asks, the first iPod Touch came out in 2007 ;)

[BricatSegaFan]

I'd say that Nintendo can often be the Apple of the gaming industry, as in they come up with ideas that other companies take and make far better, but then I realized that they still have the best motion gaming.

Blah apple is evil but Nintendo didnt come up with all the good ideas.

[kedawa]

Apple and Nintendo both buy up other companies or their technologies and then sit back and laugh while the fanboys give them credit for inventing everything.

[Press_Start]

It looks like a cheap, lazy HK knockoff of a 3rd party PS controller or the world's most unusual ipod. Either way, I call fake 'til I see something more concrete.

Even if it were real, the screen is just dam too small for my taste. If Sony is copying WiiU, I expect the touchscreen to be similarly in size and proportionality to Vita or PSP cause Dreamcast VMU's look bigger than this.

[BricatSegaFan]

Apple and Nintendo both buy up other companies or their technologies and then sit back and laugh while the fanboys give them credit for inventing everything.

Hahah so true. Sega was a pioneer in shaping the gaming industry. They took risks no one ever dared to. Others looked at their failed attempts and refined their ideas.

[kedawa]

It looks like a cheap, lazy HK knockoff of a 3rd party PS controller or the world's most unusual ipod. Either way, I call fake 'til I see something more concrete.

Even if it were real, the screen is just dam too small for my taste. If Sony is copying WiiU, I expect the touchscreen to be similarly in size and proportionality to Vita or PSP cause Dreamcast VMU's look bigger than this.

It's been confirmed by multiple sources, it's not the final design, and IT"S NOT A SCREEN.

[Press_Start]

It's been confirmed by multiple sources, it's not the final design, and IT"S NOT A SCREEN.

Sources? Links?

[kupomogli]

Sources? Links?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-orbis-dual-shock-4-leak-analysis

[rkotm]

So the PS4 is being announced tonight, most likely.
At 6pm NY eastern time.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18f881rj18q13jpg/original.jpg
Olaxi?Odaxi?OOAXI?4?For? Probably nothing about the name.

http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/previews/205327-live-sony-ps4-announcement-today-watch-the-live-event-here

[Collector_Gaming]

http://www.twitch.tv/

watch right now! Conference time!