Opinion, to play the original games or get the remastered games coming out recently?

[M.Buster2184]

Well as the title states, I'm wondering people's opinions regarding different ways to play a game. Specifically this is regarding the Ico collection remake but could apply towards any remake. I'm thinking about getting the collection due to me never getting the chance to enjoy the games the first time around. Anyone out there think they should be played on the console they debuted for or just do what makes you happy? I never played the Jak and Daxter games either and now I see those being remake for PS3. Just curious on people's thoughts.

[Rickstilwell1]

In my case as a gamer I just end up playing both versions at some point as long as I liked the game.

[Colorado Rockies]

I'm a big fan of the HD Collections.

I never played the Jak and Daxter games on PS2 and its great having all 3 on one disc for my PS3.

I'm really looking forward to the Ratchet & Clank and Zone of the Enders HD Collections this fall.
I played all three R&C games and the first ZOE on PS2, but I will gladly play them again in hd.

Some HD collections I want to see are

GTA Trilogy
Xenodaga Trilogy
Onimusha Trilogy
Kingdom Hearts 1,2
Atelier Iris Trilogy

[G-Boobie]

The Ico and SotC collection is astonishingly good. So that one is a must buy. Just do it.

Beware the Silent Hill collection. It's trash.

[duffmanth]

The Ico and SotC collection is astonishingly good. So that one is a must buy. Just do it.

Beware the Silent Hill collection. It's trash.

I don't think the Silent Hill HD Collection is trash at all. The controls are awkward, but that's part of the fun of playing retro games.

[duffmanth]

Well as the title states, I'm wondering people's opinions regarding different ways to play a game. Specifically this is regarding the Ico collection remake but could apply towards any remake. I'm thinking about getting the collection due to me never getting the chance to enjoy the games the first time around. Anyone out there think they should be played on the console they debuted for or just do what makes you happy? I never played the Jak and Daxter games either and now I see those being remake for PS3. Just curious on people's thoughts.

If you haven't played the originals, I would buy the HD remakes and enjoy the updated graphics. If you come across the original version for cheap, pick it up just to have I guess if you're a big fan of that particular game?

[RCM]

I'd totally skip Ico and Shadow on PS2 in favor of the HD collection. The frame rate is much better and the 3D support is pretty cool too.

[Bojay1997]

I don't think the Silent Hill HD Collection is trash at all. The controls are awkward, but that's part of the fun of playing retro games.

Disagree. The HD "upgrade" killed all the suspense and tension of the original graphics. It's frankly a joke.

[VideoGameRescue]

Overall the HD relaunches are just a trend. Your going to get some gems and then others your getting poodoo. Re-releases of like Final Fantasy for iPad was great.

I think these companies are missing what was great about the originals

[kedawa]

HD remakes/re-releases are hit or miss.
The Halo remake is just awful. The graphical enhancements are questionable at best, and the multiplayer is completely gutted. Stick to the original, or better yet the PC version.
Crazi Taxi and Sonic Adventure are also flawed.
On the other hand, Daytona USA, Ico, SotC, and Soul Calibur are excellent on modern consoles.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

in the case of the ico/shadow collection, its definitely worth getting and playing over the standard editions because of all the graphical upgrades, it wasnt just a straight port with a higher resolution, they went back in (at least in the case of sotc not sure about ico) and redid alot of the textures, and ico if im not mistaken was taken from the european release which had extra content that we never got over here


however in the case of silent hill collection, more specifically 3, it looks like they went out of their way to gimp that shit, wtf did they do? missing fog and textures, new voicework that doesnt really fit or sync up, and flashlight that has the power of 3 suns, that goes a long way to killing the atmosphere which in my opinion was perfected in 3, i would probably skip this one

[kupomogli]

I'd totally skip Ico and Shadow on PS2 in favor of the HD collection. The frame rate is much better and the 3D support is pretty cool too.

To me it's the other way around. Shadow of the Colossus, while having better framerate, sucks ass on the PS3. Unless it's been patched, there's a bug that some of the colossus just don't stop shaking any decent amount of time.

[G-Boobie]

I don't think the Silent Hill HD Collection is trash at all. The controls are awkward, but that's part of the fun of playing retro games.

Which part did you like best? The terrible new voice acting or the missing environmental effects?

It's trash.


To me it's the other way around. Shadow of the Colossus, while having better framerate, sucks ass on the PS3. Unless it's been patched, there's a bug that some of the colossus just don't stop shaking any decent amount of time.

That never happened to me, and if it had, I'd still take that over the single digit framerate near the end of the PS2 version.

Get the PS3 version,OP.

[Daria]

The Ico and SotC collection is astonishingly good. So that one is a must buy. Just do it.

Beware the Silent Hill collection. It's trash.

I'm torn on the Silent Hill collection, on one hand I've heard terrible things regarding the grain and fog reduction, on the other I don't own Silent Hill 3 for any console because it wasn't released for the original XBox. (I played the PC version instead). I kind of want the whole series for one system (Save the original and Origins... and Shattered Memories). I won't pay $60 for it, but I think when it hits $20 or less I'll bite. Maybe...

[ubersaurus]

I'd say it depends on the remastered game. I mean, there's no reason to go for the Saturn Radiant Silvergun over the XBLA one other than purity's sake, but the massive difference in price between the two makes that an easy sell. Same with Guardian Heroes. And yeah, I hear the rerelease of most of those PS2 games on PS3 are pretty good.

That said something like Sonic Adventure or Crazy Taxi seems kind of pointless if you can play the originals.

[The 1 2 P]

I'm torn on the Silent Hill collection, on one hand I've heard terrible things regarding the grain and fog reduction, on the other I don't own Silent Hill 3 for any console because it wasn't released for the original XBox. (I played the PC version instead). I kind of want the whole series for one system (Save the original and Origins... and Shattered Memories). I won't pay $60 for it, but I think when it hits $20 or less I'll bite. Maybe...

Even though I've heard bad things about it I'm still going to get it(I have to since I'm a Silent Hill fan). But I'm also going to wait for it to go down in price. It's only a matter of time before Target or Toys R Us clearances it. Or better yet, Best Buy gets a good coupon deal for it. I have never played Silent Hill 2 or 3 so I have even more reasons to get it and play it.

[G-Boobie]

I'm torn on the Silent Hill collection, on one hand I've heard terrible things regarding the grain and fog reduction, on the other I don't own Silent Hill 3 for any console because it wasn't released for the original XBox. (I played the PC version instead). I kind of want the whole series for one system (Save the original and Origins... and Shattered Memories). I won't pay $60 for it, but I think when it hits $20 or less I'll bite. Maybe...

I thought it launched at $40? Either way, it shouldn't take long to hit clearance prices. I'm taking that approach with Downpour, though I've heard encouraging things.

[kupomogli]

That never happened to me, and if it had, I'd still take that over the single digit framerate near the end of the PS2 version.

I'm sure it has, you just may not have remembered from the PS2 version. Also, I've never experienced single digit framerate, although I have in the 10s digits. Only game I've experienced single digit framerate was Dark Souls. Only once, but damn if it wasn't a slide show.

Anyways, here.

http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/ico-collection-shadow-colossus/135808-they-have-broken-damn-already-quite-broken-game.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9g0g-_xahY (hard time attack completion. Read description)

And on page one of the Gamefaqs Shadow of the Colossus PS3 board.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/632824-shadow-of-the-colossus/62300774

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/632824-shadow-of-the-colossus/62373117

Going through a few more pages of either it's quite a common and well known issue to those who have played the PS2 version. I've completed the hard time attacks all on the PS2 game, but with the port I won't be doing so after the difficulty I had with just the normal setting. Even with the fixed framerate and HD graphics, I'll be replaying the PS2 game when I play the game again.

[M.Buster2184]

If you haven't played the originals, I would buy the HD remakes and enjoy the updated graphics. If you come across the original version for cheap, pick it up just to have I guess if you're a big fan of that particular game?


That sounds about right. Based on what I'm reading the HD Ico collection sounds fantastic, no brainer. I think I'll still get Jak and Daxter as well. I suppose I shouldn't be so hesitant, good experience with remakes in the past. I loved the Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid remakes for Gamecube, though I was disappointed with the Mario All-Stars for the Wii. I assumed the graphics would be updated somewhat, not just a port of the SNES game.

[WCP]

I think it's a good idea to at least experience some of the original game before playing the remake. It's the same thing with watching movies. Watch the original movie before you see the remake. You need that context. Maybe you don't play 100 percent of your way thru the original game, because movies are only 2 hours, and games can take months to finish. But at least see the original game, and experience a few levels.

[substantial_snake]

I am a big supporter of the HD re-release idea because for a while during the last generation I simply fell outta gaming for a few years and missed out on a lotta fun games. The problem now being that they are either difficult/expensive to track down in good condition and most of them are just visually unappealing on modern TVs. Getting a brand new copy of several good games that look decent on a flat screen is definitely worth the 40 bucks average asking price for HD re-releases.

The key here though is HD re-release and not remake, re-releases are nice because they bundle a lot of games in a new package for a relatively cheap price while still retaining the original games integrity. HD remakes however usually retain the game play of the original game but give it a whole new coat of paint, audio, whatever which is sometimes good or bad. Ocarina of Time 3DS retains the same classic game play of the original N64 game but the visuals are noticeably brighter and "cheerier" then the original which although not bad IMO takes something away from the original feel of the game.

That being said I've got the Shadow of Colossus/ICO, MGS, and Jack and Daxter HD Collections and the first two look great so far. I'm pretty psyched for the Ratchet & Clank Collection and Z.O.E's Collection (hopefully with a HUGE art book like the MGS HD collectors edition). The Sly Cooper, Tomb Raider, and Prince of Persia collections are on my radar but I just haven't picked any of them up yet.

I have yet to play a Silent Hill game ever so I was pretty bummed when I heard that a lot of the ambiance in the HD collection was lost (and technical problems), along with the removal of the original audio for SH3. The exclusion of the spys/mercenaries mode from the Splinter Cell collection was also a downer along with generally poor reviews of the HD upscale of its games. Not all of the re-releases seem to work but the ones that do definitely seem worth it.

[JSoup]

I love compilations, particularly HD remastered compilations. Gives me a chance to replay my favorites (Sly Cooper collection) while trying games I never got a chance to sit down with (ICO/SotC collection).

[retroman]

I am a fan of the originals for any game..If you can get the originals then i would, but if not...Then those games in HD would be nice.

[Gamevet]

I'd say it depends on the remastered game. I mean, there's no reason to go for the Saturn Radiant Silvergun over the XBLA one other than purity's sake, but the massive difference in price between the two makes that an easy sell. Same with Guardian Heroes. And yeah, I hear the rerelease of most of those PS2 games on PS3 are pretty good.



Yeah, REZ HD looks great on a widescreen television in HD. I had ICO on the PS2 and it looked pretty blurry on my HD CRT. I'd like to pick it up for the PS3 soon.

[Daria]

I thought it launched at $40? Either way, it shouldn't take long to hit clearance prices. I'm taking that approach with Downpour, though I've heard encouraging things.

I didn't check the prices before posting, so you're most likely correct. Regardless I'd wait for a price drop. Downpour is a great game though, so much better than Homecoming or The Room.

[G-Boobie]

I didn't check the prices before posting, so you're most likely correct. Regardless I'd wait for a price drop. Downpour is a great game though, so much better than Homecoming or The Room.

I keep hearing that. I'm looking forward to check it out once it comes down in price a bit.

[M.Buster2184]

I will say I like remasters over remakes. Most remastered games I've been pretty happy with, remakes can be lacking. I know it's a good game, but I actually prefer the original Castlevania to Super Castlevania IV for SNES. Also, someone also mentioned, but there were a couple years, around 04-07 where I kind of lost interest in what the new games at the time were. I ignorantly missed out on some good games.

[jonebone]

Probably depends on the game. Personally, I tend to stick to the originals since those are the ones I remember. But on some games, like Resident Evil Gamecube, most fans of the series tend to agree that the remake is just so much better.

You see that more in the FPS genre where outdated games are brutal to play (it pains me to say this since Goldeneye is one of my all-time favs, but it has aged horribly). If it's just a simple platformer or RPG, then the original release is probably just as good as any.