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Captain Wrong
07-28-2003, 12:00 AM
I don't recall seeing this topic (at least not any time recently) so let's talk about it. :) I'm just interested to hear what people think about this. (Hopefully this won't devolve into flaming or people trying to defend a game. Let's hear what you really think.)

IMHO, the most over rated game of all time is Radiant Silvergun. Why? Well, basically it boils down to this: it's boring as far as shmups go. OK, it's very pretty and I will give Treasure credit for designing some pretty kick ass levels, but it's FAR from the be all end all of shmups that some people (mostly people who haven't played many shmups) would have you think it is. I've played a lot of shmups in my time and I tend to like the total twitch "oh shit!How am I going to make it out of this mess?" sort of game and RS is just not that.

Yes it's hard and no, I haven't beat it yet. But let's put it this way; when I bought my ST-V board it came with 2 carts, Radiant Silvergun and Soukyugurentai. Of the two, I was much more interested in RS and I think I've logged all of 1 hour on that and many, many more on Soukyugurentai.

The funny thing is, all the people who are hyping Radiant to the heavens seem to be people who aren't diehard shmup fans. Not to say there aren't shmups fans who like this game. There are. But it just seems like Radiant Silvergun is big among people who haven't played as many shmups and really isn't the holly grail people (or non-shmup fans anyway) make it out to be.

OK, not to diss those of you who love Radiant Silvergun. But let's hear what you think is the most over rated game of all time.

maxlords
07-28-2003, 12:17 AM
I'm thinking Radiant Silvergun runs a close second to Final Fantasy VIII. Hell, people still talk it up like it was just released! And not only that, but IMO it's one of the worst RPG stories ever! However, please don't get into a merits of FF8 argument in this thread people...not trying to sidetrack it!

Oh....and Cap'n? I'm on your side for RS....I played it for the first time about 6 months ago and flat out hated it. It wasn't all that good. Then I played Soukyugurentai for the first time and *BAM*, instantly addicted. IMO, Soukyugurentai is one of, if not THE best shmup for the Saturn! :D

BenT
07-28-2003, 12:38 AM
I generally agree about Radiant. The rote memorization it requires and the ultra-picky nature of its scoring system / gameplay are a huge turn-off for me. I sure love the graphics and sound, though.

Other somewhat to terminally overhyped games:
Battletoads (NES)
Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
Heart of Darkness (PSX) (partially due to Next-Gen's coverage)
Daikatana (PC)
Metropolis Street Racer (DC)
The Bouncer (PS2) (good fucking lord, was this ever)
Munch's Oddysee (Xbox)
Blinx (Xbox)
Unlimited Saga (PS2)

GaijinPunch
07-28-2003, 12:42 AM
Grand Theft Auto X

Captain Wrong
07-28-2003, 12:46 AM
The Bouncer (PS2) (good fucking lord, was this ever)

Heh, I'd forgoten all about this one. Granted, I never played it, but I was real interested...until it actually released and I read some reviews.

atomicthumbs
07-28-2003, 12:58 AM
Tomb Raider III
nuff' said.

WiseSalesman
07-28-2003, 01:03 AM
Final Fantasy 7

Drexel923
07-28-2003, 01:13 AM
I'll second the Bouncer as overhyped crap. Final Fantasy X is right up there too...I almost convinced myself that I enjoyed playing the game, till I came to my senses.

The Manimal
07-28-2003, 02:10 AM
Battletoads (NES)



However, it is much better than the sequels...like Battletoads and Double Dragon (where Billy and Jimmy fight like Battletoads).

hezeuschrist
07-28-2003, 02:21 AM
Halo, and I'm sure soon to be Doom III and Half-Life 2. Whoopdy do, you made a pretty FPS? Congratulations for the steaming pile of originality.

Dirty Tiger
07-28-2003, 03:04 AM
I played Tomb Raider (the first one) for the first time about 3 Months ago...Played for less than 5 minutes and traded it.

Kid Fenris
07-28-2003, 03:22 AM
I'm coming down on the other side of the Radiant Silvergun argument. The game's level design, weapon selection, boss encounters, and pattern-intensity mix make it the best shooter I've ever played. And I've played quite a few.

If I was a more cynical guy, I might suspect that the resentment towards Radiant has less to do with the game and more to do with the mindset of hardcore shooter fanboys who hate the idea of non-shmupheads proclaiming anything to be the best blast-'em-up. Why, I bet these mindless, Mario-playing sheep couldn't one-credit Batsugun! They probably don't even own any imported Cave arcade boards! How dare they try to tell us anything about shooters!

Even if Radiant isn't as great as I think, it's still too far from the public eye to be the most overrated game ever. When I think of overrated and overhyped games, I think of titles that were crammed into our heads at every turn by magazines and advertising. I agree with most of BenT's list, but I'd add these:

The Legend of Dragoon (PSX)
Donkey Kong 64 (N64)
Wild 9 (PSX)
Messiah (PC)
Space Channel 5 (DC)
Mortal Kombat 3 (Arcade, etc.)
Dead or Alive (Saturn/PSX)

Some of the above are pretty good games, but even decent stuff can be overexposed. I'll never be able to forget that goddamn opening song from Donkey Kong 64.

Daikatana got a lot of hype, but it was often unflattering. Remember this?

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=1999-11-22&res=l

BenT
07-28-2003, 04:21 AM
Wild 9 (PSX)
Messiah (PC)

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! How could I have forgotten these?

Let's throw Earthworm Jim in there for good measure.

(And as for my Radiant distaste... it's purely for gameplay reasons. Though I admit I'm annoyed when people who don't know either way just parrot the "best shooter evar" line.)

Arrrhalomynn
07-28-2003, 06:16 AM
Metal Gear Solid. It was a fun little game, that kept me busy for a few days, but that's it. Definately not the best game for the PSX. Not even close.

orrimarrko
07-28-2003, 10:41 AM
Some of these titles were a little disappointing, because they wee hyped so much. Some of them aren't bad games, but they just weren't the blockbusters people thought they would be.

For me, there can be only one...

SHENMUE for Dreamcast.

I thought this would be the second coming - lots of hype, great graphics, etc.

-_-

Nothing like walking around for hours with your thumb up your butt.

Shenmue is my choice.

Captain Wrong
07-28-2003, 12:06 PM
If I was a more cynical guy, I might suspect that the resentment towards Radiant has less to do with the game and more to do with the mindset of hardcore shooter fanboys who hate the idea of non-shmupheads proclaiming anything to be the best blast-'em-up. Why, I bet these mindless, Mario-playing sheep couldn't one-credit Batsugun! They probably don't even own any imported Cave arcade boards! How dare they try to tell us anything about shooters!l

*does Bobby DeNiro impression*

"You talkin' to me?" :-D

Heh, not to stray off topic, but believe me, after plunking down so much $$$ to play the damn thing, I really wanted to like RS. Yes, it annoys me that you basically have the equivalent of me declaring Final Fantasy XXXVII (or whatever) the greatest RPG of all time, but I can honestly say my feelings for this game are not driven by that. I agree with your good points about it, but it just doesn't make my plams sweat, which is all I ask from my shmups.

I just feel if people were exposed to other games in the genre (including those by the afforementioned Cave :P) I'd have an easier time believing people were digging it for the game itself and not the notoriety of it being grossly overpriced and "the best shmup evar!!!1!!!" As it stands, I'll keep with what I said that it's far from the worst shmup I've ever played (Earth "Defends" breathe a sigh of relief here) but it's equally far from the best.

OK, back to the bashing. :) You guys are coming up with some killers here. I'd forgotten about a lot of these.

Could we add MGS2 to the list? I haven't played it (hated the first), but it seems like even the die-hard Metal Gear fanboys will reluctantly admit it was lacking in a few areas. I'm asking here, because I really don't know and I figured someone would mention this by now.

Arcade Antics
07-28-2003, 12:10 PM
State. Of. Emergency.

Raedon
07-28-2003, 12:24 PM
most over rated games of last year..

Neverwinter Nights - So overhyped.. They got me to buy it though :/ (shtinki)
Mario Sunshine - Mario does not need weapons. Way to destroy a classic
Zelda:WW - OOT revised and cut down to 4 year old level.

1bigmig
07-28-2003, 12:50 PM
Ghosts and Goblins for the NES. Largely revered as a classic, but revealed to be ridiculously hard :angry: and little fun once played.

Jorpho
07-28-2003, 12:55 PM
Battlecruiser 3000?
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Risk equalization dicussion (http://www.insurance-forums.org/risk-equalization/)

1bigmig
07-28-2003, 12:55 PM
One more, Yoshi's Story for the N64. I waited forever for that game and preordered it thinking it was going to be a worthy sequel to Super Mario World 2. Easy game and little incentive to collect the elusive 30 melons a stage. Not a terrible game, but a severe let down. :(

DarkSoul
07-28-2003, 12:56 PM
I've got one that's a clear, hands down winner for "Most Hyped, yet incredibly crappy", refering to the pre-release advertising and eventual release of the game"

Daikatana - It's so bad, it ruined Romero's career, and good name. If you say the name in a crowd of nerds, they laugh, like it's the punchline to a joke. You can just walk up to one and say "Hey... Daikatana!" and you'll be the life of the party.

Runner up: Forsaken, because, as we all know, "The future is Forsaken", but, how many have actually PLAYED this game? Damn nice graphics for the day, but the gameplay got old fast, and the multiplayer models somehow critically failed to live up to the rest of the game's look and feel.

Kid Ice
07-28-2003, 02:15 PM
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The funny thing is, all the people who are hyping Radiant to the heavens seem to be people who aren't diehard shmup fans. Not to say there aren't shmups fans who like this game. There are. But it just seems like Radiant Silvergun is big among people who haven't played as many shmups and really isn't the holly grail people (or non-shmup fans anyway) make it out to be.


Instead of gushing about how great Radiant Silvergun is (which has been done a million times), I'll list the shooters that I've played that are not as good as RS.

No doubt someone will see a game on this list they think IS better than RS, and will get all uppity with a "How can you say that?" type of post. If you are going to do that, fine, just please explain in what way that game is better than RS so I can defend my position.

SHOOTERS THAT I HAVE PLAYED THAT ARE NOT AS GOOD AS RADIANT SILVERGUN:

Ikaruga
Mars Matrix
Gigawing
Gigawing 2
Gunbird 2
Soukyugurentai
Don Pachi
Dodonpachi
Aero Fighters 3
Storm Blade
Ray Crisis
Ray Storm
Galactic Attack
Thunder Force 5
Darius Gaiden
G Darius
Einhander
Zed Blade
Philisoma
R-Type (any of them)
Raiden (any of them)

I'm sure I'm missing many games I have played. I don't know if I'm what you'd call a "hardcore" shooter fan; I haven't played the more popular Japan-only shooter such as Battle Garegga, Batsugun, etc. I'd be pretty surprised if any of those were better than Don Pachi or Soukyugurentai, much less Radiant Silvergun.

I can concede that the game has gotten a lot of attention for a niche title, and some of it is "hype" based on the game's (real or imagined?) rarity. Too call it one of the most overrated games ever...it's just too good to be THAT overrated.

ECWSandmanECW
07-28-2003, 02:21 PM
Final Fantasy X , I played for about 2 hours,thought it was one of the most boring games ever, sold it to EBGameworld . The best thing that came out of the game was it took $15 off the price of NCAA Football 2004 :).

Needle
07-28-2003, 02:26 PM
How about Eternal Champions for the Genesis? During the height of the fighting game craze, Sega was pumping their original fighter well before its release. I believe it even made the cover of EGM, among other mags. Clearly, the game had little to no effect on the genre after its release.

WiseSalesman
07-28-2003, 02:29 PM
Runner up: Forsaken, because, as we all know, "The future is Forsaken", but, how many have actually PLAYED this game? Damn nice graphics for the day, but the gameplay got old fast, and the multiplayer models somehow critically failed to live up to the rest of the game's look and feel.

forsaken = descent (which I hated anyway) - 5 fun points.

devilman
07-28-2003, 02:49 PM
The MD Eternal Champions wasn't much cop, but I enjoyed the Mega CD version.

I'm another Silvergun fan, though I'm not a big fan of shooters generally. I sold my copy of Soukyugurentai as I wasn't much for it at all.

As for FFX, I've slowly been drawn into it. It's a hard slog at times which is annoying but it's got a lot going for it. I enjoyed it far more than 8 & 9 anyway.

I'm surprised Rise of the Robots hasn't got a mention yet...

bargora
07-28-2003, 02:50 PM
I'll second Halo. Either that, or I'm just getting burnt out on FPS games. Wait, no, I bought Serious Sam for my Xbox, too, and I'm more likely to play that than Halo... (Hmm--I think I'll go troll the Xbox boards at gamefaqs with that one.)

@ Captain Wrong -- Did you ever get your Radiant Silvergun PCB working in the cabinet with the proper three-button control scheme? Or are you basing your judgment on a crippled two-button version of the game?

WiseSalesman
07-28-2003, 10:28 PM
I'm surprised Rise of the Robots hasn't got a mention yet...


Ugh. I'll second that one.

I must say I'm surprised by all the halo haters so far. I haven't played a whole lot of the single player campaign yet (I don't own an xbox...only play at y bud's apartment), but what I have played was awesome, I love the control scheme, weapons and physics, and I'm having a great time in multiplayer.

hezeuschrist
07-28-2003, 10:54 PM
Halo itself pisses me off. Not the gameplay, graphics, storyline or whatever, but what the game stands for.

Undoubtably the best game for the Xbox. Whenever I tell some other gamer type that i don't own an Xbox because I don't have a reason to own one, they instantly blurt out "DUDE HALO". What the hell? It's a LAUNCH TITLE. SHUT THE HELL UP, IT CAME OUT NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO. IT DID NOTHING FOR ME THEN, IT DOES NOTHING FOR ME NOW. I'll probably download it when it comes out on PC, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna pay anything for it. There's simply NOTHING in the entire gaming world that deserves as much prase as this 'me too' FPS gets.

To this day the game still costs $50, for god knows why, and every Xbox fanboy would fuck their Xbox with halo in the disc tray given the option. Thats why it pisses me off.

Captain Wrong
07-29-2003, 02:45 AM
@ Captain Wrong -- Did you ever get your Radiant Silvergun PCB working in the cabinet with the proper three-button control scheme? Or are you basing your judgment on a crippled two-button version of the game?

I don't have a cab and my ST-V board runs Japanese, so I'm playing it as nature...urr...Treasure intended. The US BIOS runs it with the 2 button scheme.

@Kid Ice. I respect your opinion, but I really didn't intend this topic to become a bunch of "how could you say game X sucks?" type posts. I've said in two posts already why I think RS is overrated (short version: the game play is too cerebrial and boring.) Some people have agreed with me, some don't. (And yeah, I'd rather play most of the games on your list than RS, but I'm not going to go there either.:)) Perhaps I was overgeneralizing in my first post but I have found the opinion among the hardcore shmup community to be split right down the middle on this one. The mainstream seems to be the only place where people unquestingly claim RS as the G.O.A.T. and it was a mainstream review of the game I stumbled on that inspired this topic in the first place.

Anyhoo, if you wanna spin this off to a seperate topic, I'm game (assuming we don't put the rest of the board to sleep in the process. LOL ) Like I said, I really wish I liked this game as much as you and others do because as it stands it's a damn expensive paperweight in my collection.

Droodroo
07-29-2003, 08:11 AM
Rise of the robots, as someone said above was a pile of pish, and its still on sale for the megadrive in my local games emporium for 7 gbp, something like 12 dollars. Music by Brian May, so, so what?

Mortal kombat 3 After two of the best games the fighting genre ever saw, midway decides to release this woeful sequel.

Tomb raider angel of darkness Just released in the uk, its even worse than the rest of those games. (im not a fan mind you)

Streetfighter 3d. or EX whatever... Appalling conversion of a 2d classic, stick with what your good at capcom.

Im sure there are millions millions more...

D

Oobgarm
07-29-2003, 08:28 AM
Halo itself pisses me off. Not the gameplay, graphics, storyline or whatever, but what the game stands for.

To this day the game still costs $50, for god knows why, and every Xbox fanboy would fuck their Xbox with halo in the disc tray given the option. Thats why it pisses me off.

That is incredibly funny, yet incredibly true at the same time. O_O

I'd rather take a PS2 with Gran Turismo 3 in it, though. :D :embarrassed:

RJ
07-29-2003, 09:43 AM
Devil May Cry. Flat, silver piece of sh*t. Can't believe I haven't gotten rid of it yet. I'll most likely never play it again.

Sorry to see FF 7 was listed. I recently bought it to see how good it really is. I'm not an RPG fan but I heard it was a good place to start. I just made it into Shinra HQ but doesn't "feel" like I'm doing it right...

dreamcaster
07-29-2003, 10:00 AM
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Easily the most recent over-rated game to be released, in my opinion.

Kid Fenris
07-29-2003, 12:24 PM
@ Captain Wrong -- Did you ever get your Radiant Silvergun PCB working in the cabinet with the proper three-button control scheme? Or are you basing your judgment on a crippled two-button version of the game?

I don't have a cab and my ST-V board runs Japanese, so I'm playing it as nature...urr...Treasure intended. The US BIOS runs it with the 2 button scheme.


So the ST-V release doesn't have an option to use six or seven buttons? That's a shame. I played Radiant in the arcade a few years ago, and I have to say that I prefer the Saturn version, which maps at least one button to each weapon, over the three-button arcade setup.

Anyway, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Turok or Shadowman. Acclaim hypes the hell out of every new Turok release, even though the most recent one was easily the worst. And didn't the company want to advertise Shadowman by sticking flyers on gravestones in British cemeteries?

Kid Ice
07-29-2003, 12:47 PM
@ Captain Wrong -- Did you ever get your Radiant Silvergun PCB working in the cabinet with the proper three-button control scheme? Or are you basing your judgment on a crippled two-button version of the game?

I don't have a cab and my ST-V board runs Japanese, so I'm playing it as nature...urr...Treasure intended. The US BIOS runs it with the 2 button scheme.

Last comment on RS; you must play the Saturn version. I had no idea you were basing your opinion on the arcade game. For all I know, the arcade game could suck.

BenT
07-29-2003, 01:24 PM
Anyway, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Turok or Shadowman. Acclaim hypes the hell out of every new Turok release, even though the most recent one was easily the worst. And didn't the company want to advertise Shadowman by sticking flyers on gravestones in British cemeteries?
That was ShadowMan 2. I don't think that qualifies as overhyping, though; bad taste is more accurate.

ShadowMan for DC ain't too bad, btw.

Zaxxon
07-29-2003, 04:40 PM
Battlesphere

WiseSalesman
07-29-2003, 06:59 PM
I completely overlooked mentioning my SECOND most overrated game of all time, until another post on this board reminded me.

*ahem*

Xenogears. The game is boring, plain and simple. The storyline is slow and disjointed. The dialogue is stale. It forces you to be stuck in a town for up to an hour at a time, searching for the ONE person who will trigger the next sequence of the game when talked to. Even the battle system is boring. What the HELL is there to like about this game?

Okay, so maybe it brings up some controversial issues, but in the end, who the hell cares? I love Square as much as the next fanboy, but this is one title that, despite petitions from fanboys who had never even played the game, should have stayed in japan.

hezeuschrist
07-29-2003, 07:14 PM
I'm really suprised with how much negative sentiments Xenogears gets. Sure, it suffers from all the same flaws that all other RPG's do, especially close to the final fantasy series, but they aren't more obvious in this game over any others.

WiseSalesman
07-29-2003, 07:26 PM
it's this part,


It forces you to be stuck in a town for up to an hour at a time, searching for the ONE person who will trigger the next sequence of the game when talked to.

that really bothers me. I've never had that problem in any FF game except the first one. Plus, the towns in the FF games aren't so huge that talking to everyone takes a lifetime.

hezeuschrist
07-29-2003, 07:37 PM
I dunno, I guess I never really noticed it. In any RPG I play whenever I get to a new non-hostile area I always talk to every person and see if I can find any hidden stuff.

Nature Boy
07-30-2003, 03:45 PM
I like the topic idea...

My vote goes to Dark Cloud. It was hyped as a "Zelda Killer" at one point. Being a Zelda fan I of course was interested and picked up a copy right when it was released. I got half way through it before stopping to really care anymore (it's dungeon aspect is boring). Actually, I loaned it to a friend shortly after and I'm just getting the game back tonight (yup, #2 came out before I got the loan back).

maxlords
07-30-2003, 05:33 PM
Why, I bet these mindless, Mario-playing sheep couldn't one-credit Batsugun!


And you have? :P I got Batsagun recently, and that game isn't easy!



SHOOTERS THAT I HAVE PLAYED THAT ARE NOT AS GOOD AS RADIANT SILVERGUN:

Ikaruga
Mars Matrix
Gigawing
Gigawing 2
Gunbird 2
Soukyugurentai
Don Pachi
Dodonpachi
Aero Fighters 3
Storm Blade
Ray Crisis
Ray Storm
Galactic Attack
Thunder Force 5
Darius Gaiden
G Darius
Einhander
Zed Blade
Philisoma
R-Type (any of them)
Raiden (any of them)

Honestly, I liked Donpachi far more than Radiant Silvergun, but I didn't like Dodonpachi as much. I also liked both Soukyugurentai and Mars Matrix better than Radiant Silvergun, as well as Guardian Force and several others. IMO, RS just doesn't measure up to a lot of what I consider the BEST shooters. I don't like the whole color combo thing at all, and I wasn't even remotely impressed by the graphics. It had good control, but it really wasn't all that great. Souky far outstrips it.

Daniel Thomas
07-30-2003, 11:12 PM
I wish I had a chance to see Radiant Silvergun so I could join in on the debate. Perhaps its rarity in the West is a reason why it is revered so. It also helps that Treasure is something of a Cult of Personality, not that it's a bad thing, mind you.

As for more recent games, I think Soul Calibur 2 is overhyped. It certainly will be hailed by all the prozines as the greatest thing ever. I just honestly don't see what the big deal is. I loved the game on the Dreamcast, and still consider it one of the console's best games. The sequel certainly looks good, and the backgrounds are more detailed, but there doesn't seem to be any substantive difference from the original.

It seemed to me that Namco had thrown down the gauntlet at Sega's Virtua Fighter series, and the competition that was sparked really helped the genre -- VF4 and Evolution, anyone. Unfortunately, Namco never bothered to keep the competition going in SC2.

It's fun, of course (the game has been in the arcades for months now), but the impact of the original DC game just isn't there. I don't think most of those magazine writers ever played the game after unlocking all the secrets, anyway.

----

Another over-rated game: Tony Hawk 3. I recently picked up a copy for my PC (at $10, too), and I'm a big fan of the Tony Hawk games. This third one is very good, but I'd say it's the weakest of the three. No big, glaring flaws, but lots of little things that pile up: annoying crash animations, lousy camera angles, uneven level design (not as inspired as THPS2), a very weak soundtrack, a skate park-design mode that still isn't worth my salt. PLaying online is the best feature, and the levels are obviously designed with that in mind; many levels like Surburbia feel like three or four smaller levels grouped together for the sake of the multiplayer fests. Perhaps the thing that disappoints me most are the trick combos. This series is just devolving into an endless series of grind combos. Go online sometime, and you'll see the same damned thing: players grinding along the exact same lines on every level. You could use the revert to build longer vert combos on a half-pipe, but why bother when you can score 5 million with the grinds? Boo-ring.

thegreatescape
07-31-2003, 03:35 AM
Tiberium Sun. nuff said.

josekortez
08-26-2004, 07:54 PM
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Madden 2005.

Milk
08-26-2004, 08:28 PM
Donkey Kong Country

It was praised to the heavens when it came out, but when I pick it up and play it, all I see is a bland game with very little action or exploration.

Griking
08-26-2004, 09:15 PM
How has nobody mentioned the Atari 2600 version of Pacman yet?

Wasn't it like the largest disappointment in the history of gaming?

klausien
08-26-2004, 09:18 PM
HALO
Any Final Fantasy
Any GTA

klausien
08-26-2004, 09:18 PM
Sorry double post

Gamemaster_ca_2003
08-26-2004, 10:28 PM
2600 Pac Man
GTA San Andreas
Halo 2
Doom 3
FF7
FFX-2
GTA Vice City(Even though it is a good game)
others I forget.

link1110
08-26-2004, 10:32 PM
Any game that people pay $200 for (I'm looking right at you, Dracula X and Radient Silvergun)

Final Fantasy 7 - Best game ever? Not even close.ITSure it was pretty WHEN IT WAS RELEASED, but the story wasn't even that great. I bet if half these people went back and replayed it, they'd see it in a completely different light, though I will admit that the soundtrack was great.

Knights of the old Republic - I'm sure that this is a great game, and I'm deffinately getting it if I get an xbox, but game of the year, even above Dark Cloud 2? No. It can't possibly be that good.

Xenosaga - Tales of Destiny 2 Japanese gets passed over for THIS? This has to be, without a doubt, the worst game ever made. It was mentioned that Xenogears, it's "sequel but not really" keeps you in a town for an hour at a time, but what about this game, that keeps you in a cutscene for an hour at a time, not to mention that part where you spend another hour wandering aimlessly around a ship trying to bring that evil guy his dinner. This game is atrocious, and I don't see why anyone would allow it to have a sequel (much less 5)

Ed Oscuro
08-26-2004, 10:41 PM
Metal Gear Solid. It was a fun little game, that kept me busy for a few days, but that's it. Definately not the best game for the PSX. Not even close.
It's one for the collection, but...I'm over it. I'm way over it, and done with it.

For me, Sonic games...either of the first two games. I can't really put my finger on it, but the "feeling of speed" doesn't justify "running back and forth endlessly trying to step up your pace." Now the fact that the game pretty much avoids getting killed and bottomless pits I like, and there's a lot of good to be said about it...but for whatever reason the core gameplay hasn't succeeded in getting me hooked, either. I'll have to give these titles another chance sometime.

Then there's Light Crusader, in a category all on its own...so much promise and polish juxtaposed in a badly planned out world with occassional sprite priority glitches...the game could've been plain awesome but fails on almost every level.

Azazel
08-26-2004, 11:23 PM
GTA
Sports Games
Final Fantasy

The list goes on and on.

ubikuberalles
08-27-2004, 04:04 AM
How has nobody mentioned the Atari 2600 version of Pacman yet?

Wasn't it like the largest disappointment in the history of gaming?

Either that or E.T. :)

The Supercade game was certainely overhyped. It's basically vaporware since it was never delivered to the CGE2000 cart winners.

Avatard
08-27-2004, 07:53 AM
Resident Evil and Tomb Raider, ugh. Way overhyped for sucky games.

FantasiaWHT
08-27-2004, 08:19 AM
Ones that haven't been listed:

CHRONO CROSS- I nearly wet myself when I heard CT was getting a sequel. I waited and waited and waited and waited and it was the biggest pile of shit RPG I ever played all the way through... I felt I had to give it a complete chance and it sucked.

BLACK & WHITE- Ew

Star Ocean anything- Not so much hype, but so many people I talk to tell me how awesome they are and I can't stand them *shrug*

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles- Square's "Triumphant" return to Nintendo consoles. FLOP. Sold it on ebay (thank god I got nearly full price) less than a week after I got it.

Mentioned before:

Xenogears- Extremely boring combat, and a story:gameplay ratio of about 164:1. I don't like paying $50 for a movie, thank you

FF 7- I hated it... nothing in it except the new CG cinemas impressed me.

Mario Sunshine- Every Mario previous has been based on the core gameplay with TONS of different gimmicks sprinkled in enough to be fun but not overdo it. Now you have an entire frontline Mario game that's based entirely on a gimmick... and guess what? It grew old after a few hours.

max 330 mega
08-27-2004, 08:31 AM
i gotta say halo. if i hear one more thing about halo..... grrrrrrrr.

Avatard
08-27-2004, 08:59 AM
That Godzilla game on the SNES was hyped too, it wasn't very good....And Illusions of Gaia.


The thing about Halo is that you can easily hook up more than 4 players over LAN. That was a first. Without Halo the X-Box woulda been a complete flop, so I can't really bash that one. Even if the game was somewhat bad atleast all of my friends could play and we woudln't have to switch out controllers, which sucks.

GrayFox
08-27-2004, 09:06 AM
Alright, Halo was overhyped. A lot.

Granted, I love the game still, but it's still overhyped.

Vice City, great game and all, but it's overhyped, moreso than Halo. I just can't see the game getting pefect scores. I mean, it isn't perfect. It's excellent, but not perfect.

Last Action Hero
08-27-2004, 11:43 AM
Every EA Sports game

Every Square game after FFT

All Gran Turismo's

Every exclusive Xbox game...

especially Halo

Avatard
08-27-2004, 11:47 AM
I think Halo 2 is going to be classified as overhyped once it we get ahold of copies and play it. LOL