Please help report this Jerk!

[Parodius Duh!]

Please report this jerkoff to ebay, Ive been reporting him every hour for the past 2 days, and still nothing. He has this earthbound repro up and its surpassed $100 already!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261043716399&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123


Nothing against repro carts, I just hate MFer's that try and pull this shit. Over $100 for a repro that anyone in the know can go buy for $30...


Please help get this guy banned and his auctions shut down! Why should he be able to make this much?


sorry if this is in the wrong section, I just want to make sure people see it! If it comes down to it Im going to open up an account just to place a $1000 bid and never pay for it. F this guy!

[kai123]

I agree. If he was honest about what the game was then it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I bet you could get a good version of this with the box and manual from someone cheaper. I hate this kind of stuff. If it was a CDR of a game up there they would pull it instantly.

[Gameguy]

When you said Earthbound repro I thought you meant of the SNES version, instead this is for the unreleased NES version so it's not a bootleg of something that's commercially available. He even said it was custom made so he's not passing this on as legit, and looking through his feedback I can't see any other repros listed so he's not just buying and flipping them. This auction was started at $1, it's not his fault that bidders are stupid with their money. I would leave this auction alone, there's nothing wrong with it.

[Aussie2B]

Yeah, I don't know if the guy updated the auction, but as of right now, it says that it's fan-made. I don't see anything wrong with this.

[Jaruff]

When you said Earthbound repro I thought you meant of the SNES version, instead this is for the unreleased NES version so it's not a bootleg of something that's commercially available. He even said it was custom made so he's not passing this on as legit, and looking through his feedback I can't see any other repros listed so he's not just buying and flipping them. This auction was started at $1, it's not his fault that bidders are stupid with their money. I would leave this auction alone, there's nothing wrong with it.

I agree. I thought the same thing; I imagined someone had made a counterfeit SNES copy of the game and was passing it off as a real one.


This was a custom made game by a fan and I had won the game in a auction but sadly I need to part with it.

That's pretty clear for any bidder that read the auction. He's used "RARE" on most of his game auctions like some sellers do to garner attention. Not really a big deal, especially with that Genesis Mario game I saw the other day.


I agree. If he was honest about what the game was then it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I bet you could get a good version of this with the box and manual from someone cheaper. I hate this kind of stuff. If it was a CDR of a game up there they would pull it instantly.

You could, I could, most people at DP could. DP market is very different than the eBay market. It's like cigarettes.

Buying something on DP is akin to buying cigarettes in a low tax state (like California). Buying something on eBay is akin to buying cigarettes in a high tax state (like New York). Not everyone has access or knows about the low-tax market so they use eBay. I can't really punish the guy because of ignorant buyers.

[kai123]

I reread it and he does mention it. I am just curious if you all would feel any different if it was just a CDR of something that wasn't released? If I burned the game to a CDR and put it on Ebay is that wrong? Just wondering. I would still be providing a service to those that don't know and it's there money right?

[Jaruff]

I reread it and he does mention it. I am just curious if you all would feel any different if it was just a CDR of something that wasn't released? If I burned the game to a CDR and put it on Ebay is that wrong? Just wondering. I would still be providing a service to those that don't know and it's there money right?

I wouldn't care. If people are willing to spend their money on that, more power to them. Don't think eBay would appreciate that though.

People should perform due diligence before making any purchase. Failure to do so is not your fault.

[SparTonberry]

I would leave this auction alone, there's nothing wrong with it.

Aside from an ebay TOS violation, no. ;)

[bb_hood]

Um, yeah. Ive seen people selling NES earthbound repros for 60-120 for at least the last 2 years. Sure its stupid, but its really nothing new.

Im surprised no one is ever outraged over making the repros, isnt there copyrighted and trademarked information on the repro and label?

[RCM]

I don't see an issue with what he's doing, and I'd be pretty fucking pissed if you tried to interfere with one of my auctions. As others have said, he discloses it's a fan made cart. Let it go.

[eskobar]

Another internet knight trying to save the world :roll:

[jb143]

and looking through his feedback I can't see any other repros listed so he's not just buying and flipping them.

Maybe not, but he has almost doubled his money on this one already...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170834988158

[o.pwuaioc]

I seriously doubt that eBay is going to take action. I've yet to see a repro cart get taken down on eBay. If companies wanted to sue eBay, they probably could easily.

[wiggyx]

I seriously doubt that eBay is going to take action. I've yet to see a repro cart get taken down on eBay. If companies wanted to sue eBay, they probably could easily.

This.

eBay doesn't care about this sort of thing at this point (as best I can tell based on all the Honk Kong bootlegs and other repros that I've seen in the last few years).

[sloan]

This.

eBay doesn't care about this sort of thing at this point (as best I can tell based on all the Honk Kong bootlegs and other repros that I've seen in the last few years).

But they took down my auction for a NES toaster system with a clipped 10NES chip. Go figure...

[Gunstar Hero]

When you said Earthbound repro I thought you meant of the SNES version, instead this is for the unreleased NES version so it's not a bootleg of something that's commercially available. He even said it was custom made so he's not passing this on as legit, and looking through his feedback I can't see any other repros listed so he's not just buying and flipping them. This auction was started at $1, it's not his fault that bidders are stupid with their money. I would leave this auction alone, there's nothing wrong with it.

I agree. The people know it's a repro, and honestly it doesn't seem to bother them. If he didn't state all of the good information he provided, then it would be an issue. Plus I am not against repro carts because some games are just unplayable in their original language, and when a translated rom comes out, I'd rather play it on a real console instead of an emulator.

[o.pwuaioc]

But they took down my auction for a NES toaster system with a clipped 10NES chip. Go figure...

Recently?

[BetaWolf47]

I'm more unnerved about the auction in the related auctions section. You know, that guy with a BIN for SNES Earthbound LOOSE for $169.99. Try half of that, idiot. Doubt it'll sell though.

[theclaw]

I'm more unnerved about the auction in the related auctions section. You know, that guy with a BIN for SNES Earthbound LOOSE for $169.99. Try half of that, idiot. Doubt it'll sell though.

Couldn't he could get more than that with an auction that lucks in his favor?

[Rickstilwell1]

I bet I could get a ton of money for my Final Fantasy IIIj repro for NES that I bought from gamereproductions.com because the guy quit making that one. It's one of the few carts that I decided I must never sell.

[kupomogli]

I was recently checking Earthbround prices which are higher than when I last checked, but for a repro I wouldn't report anyone.

I did however report two different people who placed Earthbound in their listing to get more hits. I'm not sure what it's called, but some unfair listing advantage due to specific keywords or something. They're not selling Earthbound and they're placing Earthbound in the listing, which is a really douchebag move so I reported them.

[jperryss]

I'm more unnerved about the auction in the related auctions section. You know, that guy with a BIN for SNES Earthbound LOOSE for $169.99. Try half of that, idiot. Doubt it'll sell though.

That is pretty much the going rate for a loose cart. Where have you been? Look at completed eBay listings, you'll see most end around $150-200.

[o.pwuaioc]

That is pretty much the going rate for a loose cart. Where have you been? Look at completed eBay listings, you'll see most end around $150-200.

I still have no idea who would pay that much for such a underwhelming game.

[jperryss]

I still have no idea who would pay that much for such a underwhelming game.

The quality isn't the entire story, it's the rarity. Or perceived rarity. Whatever, I don't know the exact numbers. :D

[o.pwuaioc]

The quality isn't the entire story, it's the rarity. Or perceived rarity. Whatever, I don't know the exact numbers. :D

Meh, there are rarer games that are much better and worth much less. I see them for sale all the time, so they're not hard to find. I'm beginning to suspect that it's resellers buying and reselling them amongst themselves.

[SparTonberry]

Perceived rarity.
For over a decade after it was released, you could easily find it for $30 or less. It's only the last five years or so the game has been going for increasingly insane prices.

[skaar]

Famicom pirate in your user profile makes this extra ironic.

[wiggyx]

But they took down my auction for a NES toaster system with a clipped 10NES chip. Go figure...

Go figure. No idea how they search for such things. Had you listed your item from a Hong Kong location, then I bet you'd scoot right under the radar.


I still have no idea who would pay that much for such a underwhelming game.

Again, I'm with this guy. I worked in used retail from '96-'03. You couldn't give that game away for a long time. We had CIB/MIB copies that would sit for 5-10 bucks for MONTHS. Man, if I only knew that they'd be worth hundreds now...


Meh, there are rarer games that are much better and worth much less. I see them for sale all the time, so they're not hard to find. I'm beginning to suspect that it's resellers buying and reselling them amongst themselves.

Indeed. I still can't figure out exactly what caused the Earthbound price boom. Does anyone have any significant insight into the subject, or are we all just guessing at this point?


Perceived rarity.
For over a decade after it was released, you could easily find it for $30 or less. It's only the last five years or so the game has been going for increasingly insane prices.

It's so odd that Earthbound specifically spiked so recently, especially considering it isn't entirely remarkable (it's good, don't get me wrong) or terribly rare. I understand why games like EVO have become so pricey; it's a fantastic game and it's (relatively) rare.

[Aussie2B]

Indeed. I still can't figure out exactly what caused the Earthbound price boom. Does anyone have any significant insight into the subject, or are we all just guessing at this point?

Super Smash Bros.

[wiggyx]

Super Smash Bros.

Hmm, interesting. I don't care for that series, so I would never have known about the tie-in (thanks Google). Well, hopefully it dies down in a year or so. I would like to eventually pick up a copy of it again, and I'm NOT paying 100+ for a loose cart.

[Gameguy]

Indeed. I still can't figure out exactly what caused the Earthbound price boom. Does anyone have any significant insight into the subject, or are we all just guessing at this point?
I would think the people buying the game for big bucks are newer collectors who never grew up with the SNES. To newer collectors they'd think the game is rarer than it is because they've never seen it sold in stores, for older collectors why would they pay big bucks for a game they saw everywhere brand new for $20?

[wiggyx]

I would think the people buying the game for big bucks are newer collectors who never grew up with the SNES. To newer collectors they'd think the game is rarer than it is because they've never seen it sold in stores, for older collectors why would they pay big bucks for a game they saw everywhere brand new for $20?

I pretty much figured they were younger, but I wasn't sure why they cared so much until it was brought to my attention that SSB had an Earthbound/Mother character in it. It makes a lot more sense now, even if it is absurd and annoying. I'll pick up a copy in a year or so. The hype will surely have died down by then.

[Tupin]

I pretty much figured they were younger, but I wasn't sure why they cared so much until it was brought to my attention that SSB had an Earthbound/Mother character in it. It makes a lot more sense now, even if it is absurd and annoying. I'll pick up a copy in a year or so. The hype will surely have died down by then.
Nah, EarthBound will probably hold its price for a very, very long time. It's talked about everywhere as "the" SNES game to get. The game is great, but no SNES game is worth $160 loose.

As for the NES one sold here, you could buy six repros for the price this one sold for. I think there was a guy who sold it with reproduced instructions and a box for $45.

[Koa Zo]

My copy of Dracula X for PC-Engine was a CD-R with a printed label and cheaply printed insert.
I knew what is was, and I was happy to buy it for $10 rather than take the time to make one myself. :)

[Az]

eBay has a automated program that combs through auctions searching for certain key words. If your auction has these words it's flagged, then a real person reviews the auction and pulls it.

I had an auction a while back for a Japanese Mega Drive cartridge that was pulled. It was pulled because in the description I plainly stated that it was a Japanese game and wouldn't fit into a stock Genesis without some type of converter like a Mega Key, Pro Action Replay, Game Genie, etc. (Never underestimate the stupidity of some eBay users. I could go on for hours about some of the retarded questions I've gotten).

The auction was pulled and I had an "infringing copyright" violation against me, which put my account under probation for 6 months. In the actual letter, you could tell most of it was copypasta from forms, but the rest was actually written by a person. Even though there was no copyright infringement, they consider using any device or workaround on country lockouts to be "encouraging copyright infringement". Nevermind the game didn't have a country protection routine, just the shell wouldn't fit in a Genesis. They had a list of items they deemed inappropriate to sell on eBay; or if you said your game or system included or needed these items it would be pulled. It included obvious things like mod chips, but also innocent things like Honeybee converters, Saturn Action Replays, Datel Pro CDX's... you name it. They said you could sell Gamesharks but only mention them as cheat devices and not market their other features as a selling point. I thought the logic was a bit warped; you can sell Famicom games but just not mention you need a 60-to-72 pin converter to play them on a NES.

In the long run... whatever. Buyer beware. A seller intentionally misrepresenting an item as genuine or whatever is bullshit, but beyond that a fool and his money are soon parted. I don't know anything about stamp collecting. If I jump into stamp collecting on eBay wallet-first without doing the least amount of research I have only myself to blame.

[wiggyx]

Nah, EarthBound will probably hold its price for a very, very long time. It's talked about everywhere as "the" SNES game to get. The game is great, but no SNES game is worth $160 loose.

As for the NES one sold here, you could buy six repros for the price this one sold for. I think there was a guy who sold it with reproduced instructions and a box for $45.

Why do you think it'll hold its current value? It's talked about right now as the must-have title, but I can't imagine that will last for too long as long as the theory about SSB giving young gamers a reason to seek it out is corrent. Games like FFVII and Castlevania STON were worth a ton at one point, and the hype has long since cooled off since, and so have prices. I feel like the same has to happen here because the game is much like those two in that it's A) not that rare at all, and B) it's honestly not even as good as the 2 PS1 titles that I mentioned (IMO).

[Rickstilwell1]

What I think is really funny about where this topic has gone is that nobody seemed to want to help the OP and he hasn't really replied to it.

[Parodius Duh!]

Ive been lurking it, dont care to respond at this point.

[Gameguy]

Why do you think it'll hold its current value? It's talked about right now as the must-have title, but I can't imagine that will last for too long as long as the theory about SSB giving young gamers a reason to seek it out is corrent. Games like FFVII and Castlevania STON were worth a ton at one point, and the hype has long since cooled off since, and so have prices. I feel like the same has to happen here because the game is much like those two in that it's A) not that rare at all, and B) it's honestly not even as good as the 2 PS1 titles that I mentioned (IMO).
It's an RPG, RPGs tend to have higher prices than other games. It comes up on a list of overlooked/underappreciated RPGs so now more people are looking for it. Because of SSB people now heard of the game and everyone knows about it, it won't be one of those rare games that nobody has heard of. People looked it up and now it's on everybody's list of games to get. It's not that rare but it's still rarer than other RPGs on the system like the Final Fantasy games, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Soul Blazer, etc. Those are more common but are still worth a decent amount.

As for FFVII and Castlevania SOTN, those dropped in price when they got re-released. They're now available for download on whatever service is available on new consoles, and SOTN was also released on disc for the Xbox 360. Earthbound wasn't re-released and most likely won't be in the near future, the only way to play it is to get an old copy of the SNES cart(besides emulation or flashcarts).

[wiggyx]

Wait, SOTN is available as a hard copy on the 360?!

[Gameguy]

Wait, SOTN is available as a hard copy on the 360?!
Yes, it was released as part of a compilation.

http://www.amazon.com/Konami-Classics-Volume-1-Xbox-360/dp/B002W5GI8Y/

[wiggyx]

Wow, I don't know how I kissed that.

That said, what a shoddy compilation. 3 games?! Frogger?! Who the hell needs another remake of Frogger?

Anyway, good to know that, thanks.