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Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 11:52 AM
I'm a big Mega Man collector, but I've been having a lot of trouble finding the SNES games as most of them are very rare. I was wondering if anybody had a copy of any or all of the following games and would be willing to sell/trade. Thanks

Mega Man X2, Mega Man X3, Mega Man 7, Mega Man Soccer - All on SNES

wiggyx
08-14-2012, 11:56 AM
Here's the guy to ask. He always has extra MM stuff around.

http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=10830.0

In fact, he has everything that you're looking for up for sale right now.

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 12:03 PM
Here's the guy to ask. He always has extra MM stuff around.

http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=10830.0

In fact, he has everything that you're looking for up for sale right now.

Wow thanks! He really does have everything lol. Unfortunately its all a bit expensive for me. I'm looking more for just the carts (as its far less expensive) for a good price. I know its gonna be hard to find, but thats what I'm hoping for.

wiggyx
08-14-2012, 12:56 PM
Are you registered over there? If so, shoot him a pm or make a post. He has new stuff ALL THE TIME. He's had loose carts of the games that you're looking for in the past.

Also, check out his collection pics in the photo section. He's got a seriously intense MM collection going, and it's growing every day!

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 12:58 PM
Are you registered over there? If so, shoot him a pm or make a post. He has new stuff ALL THE TIME. He's had loose carts of the games that you're looking for in the past.

Also, check out his collection pics in the photo section. He's got a seriously intense MM collection going, and it's growing every day!

No I'm not registered, but I'll go do that and check it out. Thanks for the help!

The Adventurer
08-14-2012, 01:28 PM
Always been a big Mega Man fan. Mega Man 4 was one of my first games, and during the NES era I always made sure to get the next one in the series. Unfortunately I missed out on the 16-Bit era of gaming, and I never could find copies of Mega Man 1 - 3 at a good price. So I've always just had Mega Man 4 - 6 in my collection. But now that I'm back into game collecting/playing I'm trying to complete my NES set and get all the SNES games.

But yeah, it is weird how scarce Mega Man games seem to be, considering how popular the series is. I really REALLY want a copy of Mega Man 3 (my favorite Mega Man game. I rented it a few times. There's just so much GAME too it. Really loved the Doc Robots concept)

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 01:34 PM
Always been a big Mega Man fan. Mega Man 4 was one of my first games, and during the NES era I always made sure to get the next one in the series. Unfortunately I missed out on the 16-Bit era of gaming, and I never could find copies of Mega Man 1 - 3 at a good price. So I've always just had Mega Man 4 - 6 in my collection. But now that I'm back into game collecting/playing I'm trying to complete my NES set and get all the SNES games.

But yeah, it is weird how scarce Mega Man games seem to be, considering how popular the series is. I really REALLY want a copy of Mega Man 3 (my favorite Mega Man game. I rented it a few times. There's just so much GAME too it. Really loved the Doc Robots concept)

You know, I've always thought the same damn thing. The series is extremely popular and all the games are rated well, so why was there limited production or why are they so hard to find?? Anyway, I was lucky enough to find 1-6 at my local used electronics stores for decent prices. Mega man 3 is one of the more common ones (along with 2) and shouldn't be too hard to find at a reasonable price on ebay. 1 is a different story though, that will be a little harder to find.

The Adventurer
08-14-2012, 02:05 PM
6 is apparently a bit of a rarity too since it was a late-era NES game. Glad I have a copy. Even if its a bit of a odd-ball of a Mega Man game.

MachineGex
08-14-2012, 03:20 PM
I have been looking for Mega Man 7, Mega Man X3, and Mega Man Soccer for years. I finally got MM7 for $40(loose). I wasn't thrilled to pay $40, but that seems to be a good price. Seems some of the games rarely pop up anymore unless it is on ebay for big $.

wiggyx
08-14-2012, 03:21 PM
X2 and X3 are scarce for the same reason. They just came along really late in the SNES' life-cycle :(

SparTonberry
08-14-2012, 04:14 PM
6 is apparently a bit of a rarity too since it was a late-era NES game. Glad I have a copy. Even if its a bit of a odd-ball of a Mega Man game.

For some reason, 5 seems to be the most expensive.

wiggyx
08-14-2012, 04:45 PM
I've seen that too. I think it's just a fluke really. I imagine that the production totals for both a really close. Plus, it's not like it goes for a ton more money than 6 does.

The Adventurer
08-14-2012, 04:52 PM
I've seen that too. I think it's just a fluke really. I imagine that the production totals for both a really close. Plus, it's not like it goes for a ton more money than 6 does.

It might be because Mega Man 5 is better game then 6?

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 06:30 PM
For some reason, 5 seems to be the most expensive.

I don't believe Mega Man 5 was originally a US release which would make it more rare

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 06:31 PM
I have been looking for Mega Man 7, Mega Man X3, and Mega Man Soccer for years. I finally got MM7 for $40(loose). I wasn't thrilled to pay $40, but that seems to be a good price. Seems some of the games rarely pop up anymore unless it is on ebay for big $.

I would pay $40 for 7 or X3 in a second. If you can find another for that price please let me know

SparTonberry
08-14-2012, 07:41 PM
I don't believe Mega Man 5 was originally a US release which would make it more rare

5 was released in the US. I know the PAL version was much later, which is why 6 (still) hasn't been officially released in PAL regions. Still, I would think that would drive up the price of 6, not 5.

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 08:05 PM
5 was released in the US. I know the PAL version was much later, which is why 6 (still) hasn't been officially released in PAL regions. Still, I would think that would drive up the price of 6, not 5.

Yeah, I actually just looked that up. I'm not sure then, I would have to guess that it was probably slightly limited production due to its late release combined with it being a Mega Man title and actually a very good Mega Man title, just drove the price up. I found mine for $17 I think... not too bad, especially considering games nowadays are $60

jperryss
08-14-2012, 08:38 PM
Yeah, I actually just looked that up. I'm not sure then, I would have to guess that it was probably slightly limited production due to its late release combined with it being a Mega Man title and actually a very good Mega Man title, just drove the price up. I found mine for $17 I think... not too bad, especially considering games nowadays are $60

MM1 and MM6 seemed to be the priciest ones for awhile, and definitely around the time I got them 3-ish years ago. I got 2-5 in Craigslist lots or otherwise under $10 each on eBay, but paid $15-20 for MM1 and MM6.

Anyway, in case it isn't obvious yet, there is a F/S board here but you need to be a member for a certain amount of time before you can see it. Believe it or not, you're not the first person to come in and post a WTB thread on their first day here.

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 08:52 PM
MM1 and MM6 seemed to be the priciest ones for awhile, and definitely around the time I got them 3-ish years ago. I got 2-5 in Craigslist lots or otherwise under $10 each on eBay, but paid $15-20 for MM1 and MM6.

Anyway, in case it isn't obvious yet, there is a F/S board here but you need to be a member for a certain amount of time before you can see it. Believe it or not, you're not the first person to come in and post a WTB thread on their first day here.

Oh I'm sorry, I had no idea. I still can't see that thread either. Do you know how long you have to be a member until you can see it?

wiggyx
08-14-2012, 08:56 PM
It might be because Mega Man 5 is better game then 6?

Meh, I can't say I agree. Is that the general consensus at this point?


I don't believe Mega Man 5 was originally a US release which would make it more rare

It definitely was. Bought my copy brand new ;)


I would pay $40 for 7 or X3 in a second. If you can find another for that price please let me know

Good luck! Those are 2003 prices right there.

Space-Ace-13
08-14-2012, 08:58 PM
It definitely was. Bought my copy brand new ;)



Good luck! Those are 2003 prices right there.

Yeah, I researched that after I said it, and it definitely was release here. And yeah thats what I'm afraid of, I can dream thought... and you never know when a copy will turn up from somebody who doesn't know what they have

wiggyx
08-14-2012, 09:00 PM
Totally!

Craigslist, garage sales, flea markets, etc. Good hunting to you, sir!

DigitalSpace
08-14-2012, 09:25 PM
Do you know how long you have to be a member until you can see it?

Ten days.

The Adventurer
08-15-2012, 03:51 AM
Ooookay. I just beat Mega Man 4.

This is sort of big deal, since I've owned the game since it came out in 1991. I played it a lot as a kid, but the final leg of it was always so... long I never completed it. In fact the furthest I ever got, and I actually remember this pretty well, was Wily's 2nd Form.

And here's the thing, after beating the game, I can say without a doubt this is the worst Mega Man game (I've ever played, 7 and 8 are... on the list). For... like a bunch of reasons.

The big word that comes to mind about this game... BLAND. There's just something really blah about the whole design of the game, none of the Robot Masters are particular memorable, neither are any of the castle bosses for that matter. All the Robot Masters are also kinda on the small side, and many have drab color schemes. None of the weapon upgrades are particular exciting either. The Ring Boomerage is kinda fun to use, and the Bright Stopper and Dive Missile have some utilitarian use but for the most part sticking with the Buster is the way to go. Oh and the levels are all kinda dull. And there could be more variety in stage enemies.

But you know what? I could excuse all that. I really could. For its faults its still a pretty good action platformer (some really obnoxious gap jumping aside that require you to hang half-way off a ledge to even have a chance of making it) but what I can NOT forgive? Bosses that can not be beaten unless you have a specific weapon upgrade, and have it fully charged too.

Wily Form 2 and Wily Form 3 in particular are the worst offenders. The reason I could never beat Wily Form 2 when I was a kid is because no weapon can actually reach Wily's weak spot. And the weapon that can actually hit it, the Drill Bomb only works if you know you can remote detonate it. Which I clearly never picked up on as a kid.

But the unforgivable sin? Not facilitating this design choice. Mega Man 4 has no Weapon Tanks for refilling your weapon energy, and no Passwords for the Castle Stages. You have to do two whole Castles in a single shot. Its not too hard to keep your weapons full through most of it if you pay attention. But once you reach the part where you're refighting the Robot Masters you're going to use up all your weapons doing it. You'll come out the other side with pretty much everything drained. Fortunatly you don't need to use the Drill Bombs during the refights (because Toad Man is a cake walk), but if you get into fighting Wily, and get to his second form and get yourself killed... you're totally screwed. You have to commit suicide and restart the level.

But once you beat that form, and take on Wily's secret 3rd form... that's when the real frustration begins. You have to have the Pharaoh Shot to beat Wily. Nothing else works. But you probably completely drained it refighting Ring Man. Instead of giving you a pile of Weapon Energy refills at the start of the level it instead give you a long corridor full of respawning worm enemies. Convenient you say? NOPE! Weapon energy refills don't drop very often (I actually had 1-ups dropping more often for a while there) and you'll find yourself running back and forth along the same corridor for nearly a half-hour just to reload all your weapons. I say ALL your weapons because I had never gotten that far before and I had no idea what weapon was needed for Wily Form 3. So the first time through I had to refill them all. And THEN, when I finally figured out what worked... I died a few times. So I had to reload the Pharaoh Shot again and again. Mega Man 4. Worm Farming Simulator.


Let it not be said this game is BAD. Its still a solid platformer in the classic NES style. Its just a really crummy Mega Man game, due to some really bad design choices that I can only imagine were included to artificially lengthen it.


Now then... on to Mega Man 5!

Space-Ace-13
08-15-2012, 01:03 PM
Ooookay. I just beat Mega Man 4.

This is sort of big deal, since I've owned the game since it came out in 1991. I played it a lot as a kid, but the final leg of it was always so... long I never completed it. In fact the furthest I ever got, and I actually remember this pretty well, was Wily's 2nd Form.

And here's the thing, after beating the game, I can say without a doubt this is the worst Mega Man game (I've ever played, 7 and 8 are... on the list). For... like a bunch of reasons.

The big word that comes to mind about this game... BLAND. There's just something really blah about the whole design of the game, none of the Robot Masters are particular memorable, neither are any of the castle bosses for that matter. All the Robot Masters are also kinda on the small side, and many have drab color schemes. None of the weapon upgrades are particular exciting either. The Ring Boomerage is kinda fun to use, and the Bright Stopper and Dive Missile have some utilitarian use but for the most part sticking with the Buster is the way to go. Oh and the levels are all kinda dull. And there could be more variety in stage enemies.

But you know what? I could excuse all that. I really could. For its faults its still a pretty good action platformer (some really obnoxious gap jumping aside that require you to hang half-way off a ledge to even have a chance of making it) but what I can NOT forgive? Bosses that can not be beaten unless you have a specific weapon upgrade, and have it fully charged too.

Wily Form 2 and Wily Form 3 in particular are the worst offenders. The reason I could never beat Wily Form 2 when I was a kid is because no weapon can actually reach Wily's weak spot. And the weapon that can actually hit it, the Drill Bomb only works if you know you can remote detonate it. Which I clearly never picked up on as a kid.

But the unforgivable sin? Not facilitating this design choice. Mega Man 4 has no Weapon Tanks for refilling your weapon energy, and no Passwords for the Castle Stages. You have to do two whole Castles in a single shot. Its not too hard to keep your weapons full through most of it if you pay attention. But once you reach the part where you're refighting the Robot Masters you're going to use up all your weapons doing it. You'll come out the other side with pretty much everything drained. Fortunatly you don't need to use the Drill Bombs during the refights (because Toad Man is a cake walk), but if you get into fighting Wily, and get to his second form and get yourself killed... you're totally screwed. You have to commit suicide and restart the level.

But once you beat that form, and take on Wily's secret 3rd form... that's when the real frustration begins. You have to have the Pharaoh Shot to beat Wily. Nothing else works. But you probably completely drained it refighting Ring Man. Instead of giving you a pile of Weapon Energy refills at the start of the level it instead give you a long corridor full of respawning worm enemies. Convenient you say? NOPE! Weapon energy refills don't drop very often (I actually had 1-ups dropping more often for a while there) and you'll find yourself running back and forth along the same corridor for nearly a half-hour just to reload all your weapons. I say ALL your weapons because I had never gotten that far before and I had no idea what weapon was needed for Wily Form 3. So the first time through I had to refill them all. And THEN, when I finally figured out what worked... I died a few times. So I had to reload the Pharaoh Shot again and again. Mega Man 4. Worm Farming Simulator.


Let it not be said this game is BAD. Its still a solid platformer in the classic NES style. Its just a really crummy Mega Man game, due to some really bad design choices that I can only imagine were included to artificially lengthen it.


Now then... on to Mega Man 5!

I never have beaten Mega Man 4, but I understand where you're coming from with some of this. 4 always was/has been one of my favorite games in the series... but it has a TON of nostalgic value to me. This was one of the first Mega Man games we owned and played a lot, and for some reason it always stuck out in my mind over 2 and 3. I always loved Pharaoh Man and Skull Man as a kid.

I have played it, fairly recently actually (its in my NES now) but I can't say I've really critiqued it as I played. As you said, I don't think the bosses are very memorable for the most part, the music went downhill from 2 and 3, and the fact that you have to play through the castle stages in one sitting is extremely frustrating. I'll have to sit down and really play it again and see what I think after all these years of loving it. It may hold to much nostalgic value to bad talk though lol.

Anyway, good luck on 5. Another very good game, I believe its a fairly easy entry in the series so your frustration level should drop a bit.

FoxNtd
08-15-2012, 04:01 PM
Some of those negative comments for 4 are kinda off. While reading it, it reminded me of the reasons why I hate 2 since some of your explanations were similar. XD

I have played all 6 games to completion, though currently I have only Rockman 3 through 6. For those four games, recently I completed the challenge of killing every robot master with chargeless buster and without taking damage. I sure got revenge on some bosses that tortured me when I was a kid! :)

Anyway can you tell me which jumps in 4 were difficult edge jumps? I don't remember hard jumps anywhere. Maybe there is one or more but I'm used to them and don't see them as hard anymore, honestly don't know which is why I ask. The jump required to reach the balloon is the only jump that's truly hard to make, and even today I still miss it most of the time. You really have to hit jump at the last moment before falling to make it, or use Rush to cross the gap. That jump and item are not required to beat the game so I think it is exempt for this reason.

Since I always play chargeless buster only, I know which parts of which games force you to use something special. Did you acquire the balloon and/or wire adapters in 4? I wish they did more with those; a creative extension the series hasn't seen that doesn't involve Rush doing something for you. Maybe it was a throwback to the beam tool in 1 or the Items in 2...

As for 4 forcing usage of other weapons: the first encounter with Wily has a phase that you cannot hit unless you charge your buster to full. You can hit him with that and it deals damage. The Drill weapon is not required. The final encounter with Wily at the end of the game does indeed require the Pharaoh weapon. I considered the worm corridor to be good design since you had the chance to farm some energy pellets if you arrived to the stage without energy for it, or if you died at Wily and need to recharge from that fight. If it's such a problem, honestly just force game over and respawn; this gives you full energy for everything. You shouldn't be farming the worms for an entire energy bar, just 1-3 pellets really.

In contrast 2 had a boss that required bombs, and if you ran out, you were fucked. Thanks to other fucking stupid factors, yes several factors, you have only 1 shot to win that boss, or else you have to just get game over deliberately to try again. There's no farming section to go refill your bombs. Argh I hate 2. :mad:

4, 5, and 6 are easier than the first three. Restricted or casual play, doesn't matter. One major factor contributing to this is that you don't see anything dealing substantial damage to Rockman anymore like you would encounter in the first three. Remember in 1 that even if stunned, spikes will still kill you? No temporary invincibility there. Remember the damage incurred if Ice Man's ice hits you? Nothing hurts that much in 4/5/6, EVER. :)

4 is possibly the easiest of the series. (3 is astronomically hard with restricted play.) When you get to 6, take a moment and familiarize yourself with the sliding function. It's... somewhat restricted... (Luckily the game reduced the emphasis on needing slides so even if you have a hard time with it, it's not so inhibiting.)

Lastly saying 4 was bland, well there's no right or wrong there. I understand what you mean by it, surely, though I still enjoy 4 just the same. Get a bit better than bump up the difficulty and try a restricted play, might be more thrilling! Ring, Skull, and Pharaoh are fun. Bright Man can go to hell. XD

A Black Falcon
08-15-2012, 06:03 PM
4, easiest? No way, 5 is a lot easier than 4, it's not even close! 5 gives you so many extra lives, and the levels are easier too. 5's the easiest for sure. As for 4, I'd say that it's about right in dfificulty, not too hard but not too easy. It is my favorite NES Mega Man game, too. 5 and 6 look nice, but don't play as well as 4...

Oh, and I definitely think that in terms of level designs and bosses, 6 is by far the blandest of the six.

Space-Ace-13
08-15-2012, 09:17 PM
Yeah I definitely would never call 4 a bad game, and as I said before it holds a special place in my heart. As for 4 being the easiest I wouldn't entirely agree. As black falcon said, I do think the games got easier as the series went on, but I definitely think 5 is probably the easiest of the series. And 6 is the blandest as far as cool and original bosses. But this is all like picking a favorite kid because I love the whole series :hail:

RP2A03
08-15-2012, 09:22 PM
Wily Form 2 and Wily Form 3 in particular are the worst offenders. The reason I could never beat Wily Form 2 when I was a kid is because no weapon can actually reach Wily's weak spot. And the weapon that can actually hit it, the Drill Bomb only works if you know you can remote detonate it. Which I clearly never picked up on as a kid.

Wait... you can remote detonate Drill Bombs? After all these years, I never knew that. With that being said, with perfect timing you can reach Wily's weak spot with the Mega Buster.

Also, I agree with FoxNtd that Mega Man 4 is the easiest one.

wiggyx
08-15-2012, 10:45 PM
I always felt that 2 was the easiest by far.

The Adventurer
08-15-2012, 10:49 PM
I always felt that 2 was the easiest by far.

By far. Metal Blades pretty much dominate the whole game.

Space-Ace-13
08-15-2012, 10:50 PM
I always felt that 2 was the easiest by far.

2 actually is fairly easy. Wood man, bubble man, and air man are all very easy bosses, and Metal man's weapon is powerful against so many bosses in that game. Also I've played it so much that I know it a little better than most of the others.

As for 4, I'll have to sit down and really play again, I'm surprised how many people think 4 is the easiest, I've had trouble with it in the past.

FoxNtd
08-16-2012, 12:13 AM
5 gives you so many extra lives

YES thank you thank you so I'm not crazy and my Rockman 5 cartridge isn't cursed, the game really does throw 1UPs at you like crazy. You can hit the max 9 lives counter after playing only 2 stages, it's ridiculous.

I did stop to think if 5 was easier than 4, but I felt that 5 is harder because the bosses at the "Mr. X" part of the game definitely require a little more skill than the jokes thrown at you in 4. As for the 8 robot masters, 5 is easier. I blew through them all so fast. At least with 4 you have Ring, Pharaoh, and Bright to make you practice a little to ace them flawlessly. (Though honestly Ring is easy, he only seems hard before you figure out how to do it.)

The Adventurer
08-16-2012, 12:19 AM
YES thank you thank you so I'm not crazy and my Rockman 5 cartridge isn't cursed, the game really does throw 1UPs at you like crazy. You can hit the max 9 lives counter after playing only 2 stages, it's ridiculous.

I did stop to think if 5 was easier than 4, but I felt that 5 is harder because the bosses at the "Mr. X" part of the game definitely require a little more skill than the jokes thrown at you in 4. As for the 8 robot masters, 5 is easier. I blew through them all so fast. At least with 4 you have Ring, Pharaoh, and Bright to make you practice a little to ace them flawlessly. (Though honestly Ring is easy, he only seems hard before you figure out how to do it.)

Seriously, Pharaoh and Bright? Bright is easy to dodge if you stand as far away from him as possible. And Pharaoh gets time stopped by the Bright Stopper! He's not even a threat!

Space-Ace-13
08-16-2012, 12:25 AM
By far. Metal Blades pretty much dominate the whole game.

truth

FoxNtd
08-16-2012, 12:44 AM
Seriously, Pharaoh and Bright? Bright is easy to dodge if you stand as far away from him as possible. And Pharaoh gets time stopped by the Bright Stopper! He's not even a threat!

You need to read what I said earlier. My goal was to win without using weaknesses or getting hit. I can beat these bosses with 100% success but when it comes to never getting hit.... well yeah. Now do you see why I hate Bright Man? I know there is a trick to prevent him from using the time stopping ability but it's tricky to do it right. I basically depend on being lucky enough to be frozen in a safe spot where he can't hit me. I've only aced Bright twice so far, so in other words most of the time he'll hit me at least once.

Pharaoh requires some slick evasion for some patterns. The hardest thing to learn was the opening move of the battle. It was so easy to get hit on his first attack wave but I got a technique that solves this problem. You need to enter the room with a jump and push Rockman as far to the right as possible. It helps to get into position for when Pharaoh Man comes towards you and you won't get hurt. When you try to do this you'll see what I mean. I think Pharaoh was the most fun to do of the 8 bosses. :)

Space-Ace-13
08-16-2012, 12:52 AM
You need to read what I said earlier. My goal was to win without using weaknesses or getting hit. I can beat these bosses with 100% success but when it comes to never getting hit.... well yeah. Now do you see why I hate Bright Man? I know there is a trick to prevent him from using the time stopping ability but it's tricky to do it right. I basically depend on being lucky enough to be frozen in a safe spot where he can't hit me. I've only aced Bright twice so far, so in other words most of the time he'll hit me at least once.

Pharaoh requires some slick evasion for some patterns. The hardest thing to learn was the opening move of the battle. It was so easy to get hit on his first attack wave but I got a technique that solves this problem. You need to enter the room with a jump and push Rockman as far to the right as possible. It helps to get into position for when Pharaoh Man comes towards you and you won't get hurt. When you try to do this you'll see what I mean. I think Pharaoh was the most fun to do of the 8 bosses. :)

I honestly can't imagine beating almost any boss without getting hit... thats pretty incredible! My Mega Man skills need some work. There are a lot of bosses that I can breeze through, but I usually manage to get hit at least once

FoxNtd
08-16-2012, 01:06 AM
I honestly can't imagine beating almost any boss without getting hit... thats pretty incredible! My Mega Man skills need some work. There are a lot of bosses that I can breeze through, but I usually manage to get hit at least once

The vast majority are EASY to do. Since I played all four games virtually back to back I can readily compare the difficulties. I'll only mention the ones who are hard, or should be hard.

Shadow Man - Took me longer than I think it should have. Easy to learn but very tricky to do it JUST right. You'll be amazed how tough it is to go from a -1 to perfect.

Needle Man - I expected this guy to take absolutely forever, with insane luck. After 15 minutes I got him. Ironically someone blocked the view of my screen and I had to pause twice during the battle but I still didn't get hit. XD

Spark Man - He can fuck right off. The only boss that took me over 30 minutes to get. I had a pattern that works but his hitbox and his spark's hitbox are bloody huge. Probably took a whole hour to nail this sucker but I'm not sure about the time.

Pharaoh Man - Literally practiced dodging his jumps without shooting at him for about 25-30 minutes, then I got him. Not too hard, not too easy. I feel he's easier than Bright Man ONLY for perfection; Bright is way easier for any other style of play.

Bright Man - Pray he misses.

Drill Man - Once you learn when/how to jump the drills, it's just a long drawn out battle. I don't use charge buster either so ugh, slow. But easy enough.

Ring Man - With his pattern down he is in fact easy. I know many people consider this guy to be rough.

Crystal Man - If you see how I killed him, you'd understand how pitiful he is. He only used the crystals once at the beginning and you can dodge them if you slide all the way to the right at the start.

Charge Man - Luck game. Sometimes he will suddenly change direction WHILE you try to jump over him. Thanks to this bullshit I had to restart a zillion times. Probably wasted half an hour on this asswipe.

Tomahawk Man - Easy to get screwed up but a straightforward system to follow. His jumping is more dangerous than anything else, you're not sure how high, fast, or far he'll go.

Yamato Man - He's easy.

Flame Man - Luck game. Almost every single time he uses the rising flames ability right after firing those 3 slow flame shots, I'd get hit. It's almost impossible to avoid a hit because the time you have to see where a safe landing spot is is very very short.

The Adventurer
08-16-2012, 02:58 AM
So... I just blew through Mega Man 5. Definitely much easier then 4, by like a million miles. At the same time though, I enjoyed the experience a lot more then 4. I though the game had a lot more style. Levels felt properly themed (Gravity Man and Star Man stages are really fun) with generally a lot more character (Napalm Man's jungle/war theme is pretty lol). I especially like the Protoman Castle, and how its boss battles was a series of what I imagine to be Proto-Robotmasters. It really gives it some unique character over the traditional big bosses of the Wily Castle.

Wily's two forms were ridiculously easy however (and final Wily form can be killed by Beat so easily all you have to do is dodge all his extremely telegraphed attacks). On one hand, after the complete nightmare of the previous Wily forms, it was a welcome relief. But part of mean is disappointed that it wasn't a bit harder over-all. Or at least there weren't more Wily levels in general, I think there are only two real levels. The last two are just the repeat boss battles, and a really short final area.

Still, solid game (and actually one I managed to beat as a kid!). Now... on to Mega Man 6!



The vast majority are EASY to do. Since I played all four games virtually back to back I can readily compare the difficulties. I'll only mention the ones who are hard, or should be hard.
*snip*

Not to say what you've done isn't impressive. But they way you're describing things like 'restart'... did you attempt this on an emulator with save states for quick battle resets? Because I imagine having to literally restart the game every time you get hit would be the true Iron Man test.

jperryss
08-16-2012, 12:23 PM
By far. Metal Blades pretty much dominate the whole game.

Agreed on MM2 being the easiest, and the metal blades are by far the most versatile weapon in any MM game. I've 1CC'd this game at least a dozen times and did it ONCE without dying.

In MM2 I always fight Metal Man first so I can use the blades for the rest of the game. In every other MM game, I use the buster 90% of the time.

Space-Ace-13
08-16-2012, 12:50 PM
So... I just blew through Mega Man 5. Definitely much easier then 4, by like a million miles. At the same time though, I enjoyed the experience a lot more then 4. I though the game had a lot more style. Levels felt properly themed (Gravity Man and Star Man stages are really fun) with generally a lot more character (Napalm Man's jungle/war theme is pretty lol). I especially like the Protoman Castle, and how its boss battles was a series of what I imagine to be Proto-Robotmasters. It really gives it some unique character over the traditional big bosses of the Wily Castle.

Wily's two forms were ridiculously easy however (and final Wily form can be killed by Beat so easily all you have to do is dodge all his extremely telegraphed attacks). On one hand, after the complete nightmare of the previous Wily forms, it was a welcome relief. But part of mean is disappointed that it wasn't a bit harder over-all. Or at least there weren't more Wily levels in general, I think there are only two real levels. The last two are just the repeat boss battles, and a really short final area.

Still, solid game (and actually one I managed to beat as a kid!). Now... on to Mega Man 6!




Not to say what you've done isn't impressive. But they way you're describing things like 'restart'... did you attempt this on an emulator with save states for quick battle resets? Because I imagine having to literally restart the game every time you get hit would be the true Iron Man test.


Yeah, Mega Man 5 is definitely the easiest in my opinion, I breezed through the robot masters as well, but it is a lot of fun anyway. Could stand to be a little harder, but I'm not gonna complain. Good luck with 6, probably my least favorite of the NES series.

Space-Ace-13
08-16-2012, 12:52 PM
I just picked up Mega Man Legends for PS1. I wasn't sure how I felt about a 3D Mega Man game, and I thought the blocky graphics would ruin it. But I was wrong, I love this game, its a lot of fun and actually looks pretty good. Whats everyones thoughts?

The Adventurer
08-16-2012, 12:55 PM
I just picked up Mega Man Legends for PS1. I wasn't sure how I felt about a 3D Mega Man game, and I thought the blocky graphics would ruin it. But I was wrong, I love this game, its a lot of fun and actually looks pretty good. Whats everyones thoughts?

I think a lot of Mega Man fans reacted like you did '3D is weird' and 'its not Rock and Co.'. But its definitely a cult classic for a reason.

I haven't had the opportunity to play it. Mega Man Legends 1 and 2 are on my short list to find in the next year as I continue to get into bargain hunting.

FoxNtd
08-16-2012, 02:18 PM
Not to say what you've done isn't impressive. But they way you're describing things like 'restart'... did you attempt this on an emulator with save states for quick battle resets? Because I imagine having to literally restart the game every time you get hit would be the true Iron Man test.

Absolutely not, I never emulate. All play was on the Famicom; what I mean by "restart" is that when I am hit, I just allow the boss to kill me so I can respawn and try again. Obviously Game Over happens every 3 lives or so, which means I'd replay the stage every time as necessary. It sounds like a pain in the ass but it's not as bad as it sounds, really. I did hit reset on the console a few times when it was convenient. :)

Oh, in some cases even if I am hit, instead of just allowing myself to die I'd stop firing and just keep dodging as practice. I was doing this with bosses like Shadow and Spark, I could spend a bunch of time just evading and not getting hit. Doing this paid off. :)

Space-Ace-13
08-16-2012, 02:23 PM
Absolutely not, I never emulate. All play was on the Famicom; what I mean by "restart" is that when I am hit, I just allow the boss to kill me so I can respawn and try again. Obviously Game Over happens every 3 lives or so, which means I'd replay the stage every time as necessary. It sounds like a pain in the ass but it's not as bad as it sounds, really. I did hit reset on the console a few times when it was convenient. :)

Oh, in some cases even if I am hit, instead of just allowing myself to die I'd stop firing and just keep dodging as practice. I was doing this with bosses like Shadow and Spark, I could spend a bunch of time just evading and not getting hit. Doing this paid off. :)

that is some serious dedication

Space-Ace-13
08-16-2012, 02:24 PM
I think a lot of Mega Man fans reacted like you did '3D is weird' and 'its not Rock and Co.'. But its definitely a cult classic for a reason.

I've had had the opportunity to play it. Mega Man Legends 1 and 2 are on my short list to find in the next year as I continue to get into bargain hunting.

Yeah, I really like it, and if you can find it at a good price definitely pick it up. I was lucky enough to find one in a local used electronics store yesterday for $25 complete. Not a steal exactly, but I doubt I would find it any cheaper so I grabbed it. As for Legends 2... I won't hold my breath on finding it

FoxNtd
08-16-2012, 03:53 PM
that is some serious dedication

Ha. Most bosses are so easy they go down in one try. Some only take a few tries. Only one boss took me more than half an hour. So, what, two hours here, another two there, and I'm done. And I walk away with the satisfaction of dominating those games. :popcorn:

Space-Ace-13
08-17-2012, 11:26 AM
Ha. Most bosses are so easy they go down in one try. Some only take a few tries. Only one boss took me more than half an hour. So, what, two hours here, another two there, and I'm done. And I walk away with the satisfaction of dominating those games. :popcorn:

True, I guess I never even thought of attempting that... but I could see doing it after beating all the games, it would definitely make it a lot more challenging and give you a new reason to play the games

samspade
08-17-2012, 12:25 PM
6 is apparently a bit of a rarity too since it was a late-era NES game. Glad I have a copy. Even if its a bit of a odd-ball of a Mega Man game.

It's kinda strange in that it was published by Nintendo instead of Capcom. It's a decent MM game, I really think all of the 8 and 16 bit megamans are classics in my eyes. Only game I'm missing out of those is Soccer and Megaman X3.

Good luck picking up a few for your collection. Megaman X was a bad ass series even on the saturn and PS1 which people tend to forget. You should get Megaman 8 if you haven't, it's just all all around awesome.

SparTonberry
08-17-2012, 01:13 PM
The only explanation I can think is that maybe even Capcom thought there were too many Mega Man games (though Chip 'n Dale 2 was released around the same time), but Nintendo wanted a major franchise to launch the toploader NES with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wo9kKav6qY
Who doesn't love to fight evil... robots?
(in Japan, they released Final Fantasy I&II and The Legend of Zelda 1 cart version with the AV Famicom)

The Adventurer
08-17-2012, 11:11 PM
Question for those who have an opinion on the matter. If I had a choice, which version of Mega Man Legends should I get? The PS1 version? Or Mega Man 64? Or does it really not matter?

Tanooki
08-17-2012, 11:16 PM
Question for those who have an opinion on the matter. If I had a choice, which version of Mega Man Legends should I get? The PS1 version? Or Mega Man 64? Or does it really not matter?

I know I don't have the post history to back it up, but I've had both and I prefer the N64 game much more. The PS1 game came earlier, and the N64 later. Due to that the N64 ironed out a few camera, game play, and walkable area issues that kind of sucked and made it a more enjoyable experience. At the core they're more or less identical, so it really comes down to the tweaks vs enjoying it on a CD with the audio (but load times), or having the compressed music and voices on N64 but with the fixed up bits.

Space-Ace-13
08-18-2012, 01:15 AM
I know I don't have the post history to back it up, but I've had both and I prefer the N64 game much more. The PS1 game came earlier, and the N64 later. Due to that the N64 ironed out a few camera, game play, and walkable area issues that kind of sucked and made it a more enjoyable experience. At the core they're more or less identical, so it really comes down to the tweaks vs enjoying it on a CD with the audio (but load times), or having the compressed music and voices on N64 but with the fixed up bits.

Thanks for the advice... I didn't even know they were the same game. I'm loving Legends though, lot of fun

Space-Ace-13
08-18-2012, 01:17 AM
Who do you think is the single hardest robot master in the Mega Man series? I'm in the middle of Mega Man & Bass on my GBA and Burner Man seems all but impossible right now. His pattern is unpredictable and his weakness (the ice shield) is only good at certain times and you have to hit him at the right moment and follow him across the screen with it. Ive almost put my DS through the floor on several occasions... I HATE BURNER MAN

Tanooki
08-18-2012, 01:39 AM
I wish I could say, all of them are hard to me at this rate as I'm years out of practice on the whole lot of them other than MM2. In the last month I came up with insanely cheap to free copies of MMX2 and X3 along with a $20 MM5(most I've paid by double over any other MM title I have on NES.) I'm finding I can still deal with stages well, not so much the robots, but that's mostly being out of practice and not having any idea who the hell to do in the proper order. :D

I hear Tomahawk Man is a pain in the ass because all the jumping he does is at random heights, so it's not like you can just plan to hop over or dash under and stick to it.

tom
08-18-2012, 04:00 AM
I got those two on GB, they are quite fun, but nothing special.
http://www.videogamecollectors.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=203493&g2_serialNumber=1 http://www.videogamecollectors.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=203495&g2_serialNumber=1

Played Mega Man on NES, awful, platformers are meant to be played with a joystick, not a stupid, wrong way 'round joypad.

The Adventurer
08-18-2012, 04:14 AM
Played Mega Man on NES, awful, platformers are meant to be played with a joystick, not a stupid, wrong way 'round joypad.

Haha. What?

Space-Ace-13
08-18-2012, 09:11 AM
I got those two on GB, they are quite fun, but nothing special.
http://www.videogamecollectors.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=203493&g2_serialNumber=1 http://www.videogamecollectors.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=203495&g2_serialNumber=1

Played Mega Man on NES, awful, platformers are meant to be played with a joystick, not a stupid, wrong way 'round joypad.

Awful is a strong word to describe the games. I think the games are phenomenal and I've never had a problem with the D-pad at all... then again I've never played it with a joystick so I can't really comment on which is better.

Urzu402
08-18-2012, 09:26 AM
Oh, man. Mega Man is my favorite series of all time, though I wish capcom liked him more. but I have A LOT of Mega Man games none for sale though sorry, but these two are my most prized:

http://i.imgur.com/6zKR6.jpg

Technomari
08-18-2012, 10:48 AM
Nice collections!

I myself grew up with the Megaman games on Gameboy, and they're pretty easy compared to the console versions. As a kid I never once beat any of my GB Megaman games, I guess I was really bad as a kid. I should try playing them again to see if I'm any better than my past self. :)

Space-Ace-13
08-18-2012, 11:10 AM
UPDATE: I beat Burner Man... you can all rest easy now :bday:

Overbite
08-18-2012, 06:33 PM
So anyone know why the Megaman Legends games are so expensive? They never used to cost this much. I bought them all back in 2002 or 3 for about 10 bux each, including Misadventures of Tron Bonne. They're like $100 on ebay now! Price went up for some reason.

The Adventurer
08-18-2012, 08:07 PM
So anyone know why the Megaman Legends games are so expensive? They never used to cost this much. I bought them all back in 2002 or 3 for about 10 bux each, including Misadventures of Tron Bonne. They're like $100 on ebay now! Price went up for some reason.

As time goes on they just get harder to find. So the price goes up. I'm beginning to get the impression that even though Mega Man is one of most popular franchises of all time it's games have pretty modest print runs for the most part.

So it's a combination of popularity and scarcity that's driving the prices up and up.

kainemaxwell
08-18-2012, 09:37 PM
But the unforgivable sin? Not facilitating this design choice. Mega Man 4 has no Weapon Tanks for refilling your weapon energy, and no Passwords for the Castle Stages. You have to do two whole Castles in a single shot. Its not too hard to keep your weapons full through most of it if you pay attention. But once you reach the part where you're refighting the Robot Masters you're going to use up all your weapons doing it. You'll come out the other side with pretty much everything drained. Fortunatly you don't need to use the Drill Bombs during the refights (because Toad Man is a cake walk), but if you get into fighting Wily, and get to his second form and get yourself killed... you're totally screwed. You have to commit suicide and restart the level.

This right here is one the things that I dislike about the second MM NES trilogy. and always found MM3 the easiest to me anyway.

Space-Ace-13
08-18-2012, 09:59 PM
This right here is one the things that I dislike about the second MM NES trilogy. and always found MM3 the easiest to me anyway.

Wow, I think you're the first person who found 3 to be the easiest. It's definitely my favorite. And, how did you get those little Mega Man pictures above your avatar??

kainemaxwell
08-18-2012, 10:28 PM
Wow, I think you're the first person who found 3 to be the easiest. It's definitely my favorite. And, how did you get those little Mega Man pictures above your avatar??

For me it's more or less fighting the Robot Masters off and on easy or hard, same with the Doc Robots. Most of Wily's Castle is easy for me and I can normally get through most it without totally screwing up until the RM rematches. and now some of you got me curious to try MM Soccer and Legends/MM64.

M.Buster2184
08-19-2012, 03:25 AM
I own, have played and beat Mega Man 1-6. I love them all, though I personally think Mega Man 2 and 3 are the best, with a soft spot for the first one. Side question, is Mega Man Soccer really worth that much or are those prices too high? I have Mega Man soccer CIB, but I honestly don't care for the game.

Tanooki
08-19-2012, 03:47 AM
Over the years I've had MM1-6, MM1-5 GB, MMX1 and that's it back in that era, and I did get the MM9 download but it was kind of shitty and never got 10. Only in the last couple years outside of that backasswards broken setup the Gamecube got I had access to MM7 and 8 and despite dying too much mistaking jump and shoot they were nice. Only this year I got ahold of MMX2 and 3, they seem fun, but barely scratching them so far. Have tried out battle network and didn't like it, and truly despise the Zero titles. The power battles duo of arcade games I had on NGPC a decade ago and loved those, but that's too pricy now to bother again. And I do have MM64 and have had MML(which is MM64) and Legends 2 which wasn't very good.

Of them all I still think the original NES series of titles even going beyond the NES to the others, the original line are the best designed and most fun by far. But of all of them I'm still convinced that MM2 is the most fun, but also it is along with MM3 the most accessible as they're easy.

Space-Ace-13
08-19-2012, 12:34 PM
Over the years I've had MM1-6, MM1-5 GB, MMX1 and that's it back in that era, and I did get the MM9 download but it was kind of shitty and never got 10. Only in the last couple years outside of that backasswards broken setup the Gamecube got I had access to MM7 and 8 and despite dying too much mistaking jump and shoot they were nice. Only this year I got ahold of MMX2 and 3, they seem fun, but barely scratching them so far. Have tried out battle network and didn't like it, and truly despise the Zero titles. The power battles duo of arcade games I had on NGPC a decade ago and loved those, but that's too pricy now to bother again. And I do have MM64 and have had MML(which is MM64) and Legends 2 which wasn't very good.

Of them all I still think the original NES series of titles even going beyond the NES to the others, the original line are the best designed and most fun by far. But of all of them I'm still convinced that MM2 is the most fun, but also it is along with MM3 the most accessible as they're easy.

I have to agree that the NES titles are definitely the best in the series. I do really enjoy the X series (not as much though) and I think 8, 9, 10 are all pretty good. I also recently picked up Legends and really enjoy it even though its a lot different. I haven't ventured into the zero or the battle network series yet so I can't comment, but i do plan on trying them each out at some point. But again, nothing comes close to the original NES series

Space-Ace-13
08-19-2012, 12:36 PM
I own, have played and beat Mega Man 1-6. I love them all, though I personally think Mega Man 2 and 3 are the best, with a soft spot for the first one. Side question, is Mega Man Soccer really worth that much or are those prices too high? I have Mega Man soccer CIB, but I honestly don't care for the game.

Its hard to say, I guess the game is worth whatever they are selling for at that time. I've been looking for a copy of Mega Man Soccer and they've been around $30 on average and thats loose, so CIB should bring you some decent money

wiggyx
08-19-2012, 03:08 PM
Oh, man. Mega Man is my favorite series of all time, though I wish capcom liked him more. but I have A LOT of Mega Man games none for sale though sorry, but these two are my most prized:

http://i.imgur.com/6zKR6.jpg

-----------------------------------------------------------------------^^^

'Tis a fun game (as you know ;) )

DeseoParadise
08-19-2012, 03:50 PM
Has anybody have a pic of Megaman X or Megaman X2 for PC?

kainemaxwell
08-19-2012, 06:31 PM
thanks to this started messing around with MM Anniversary again. Decided to restart my game of MM2 for fun, also have a game for MM1, MM6-8. Did finish MM2 a few years back via nes emulation with my Dreamcast. May go that route again. *shrug

Space-Ace-13
08-19-2012, 06:38 PM
thanks to this started messing around with MM Anniversary again. Decided to restart my game of MM2 for fun, also have a game for MM1, MM6-8. Did finish MM2 a few years back via nes emulation with my Dreamcast. May go that route again. *shrug

Glad we could get you back into Mega Man games, they're so fun and addicting! :)

kainemaxwell
08-19-2012, 07:55 PM
Glad we could get you back into Mega Man games, they're so fun and addicting! :)

Anyone here play and enjoy the gb titles?