View Full Version : What's the best home version of Mortal Kombat?
Anthony1
08-01-2003, 12:44 AM
I know that various versions of Mortal Kombat came out for the Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo and other systems. Which version would be considered the "clear cut best version of MK at home".
I'm not a big fan of fighting games, but I saw a old review of the first game on the Sega Genesis, and it brought back memories of when the game first came out on the Genesis and all the hype about the blood and every thing.
Also, why we are on this topic, what is the definitive home version of Street Fighter II?
badinsults
08-01-2003, 12:57 AM
Certainly not the snes version, it sucked big time. Perhaps the Saturn version is? I haven't played it before.
mauigamer
08-01-2003, 02:19 AM
My cote for the best Mortal Kombat would be Mortal Kombat trilogy for the Nintendo 64. The playstation version was good to but had terrible load times.
I would vote Street fighter alpha3 as the best overall version of streetfighter 2.
hezeuschrist
08-01-2003, 02:37 AM
SNES: Mortal Kombat II, hands down.
Street Fighter 2? Hrm, depends on what version. Certainly not that craptastic atrocity that was Championship edition on Genesis.
The Manimal
08-01-2003, 03:16 AM
If I HAD to choose a MK game....MK 2 for the SNES. I do own this, but I really don't like it. Picked it up used complete for $2.50 years back and I didn't like it then either. It's still seen as the best in the series.
Street Fighter II? I'd say Tournament Edition (arcade). But for consoles, probably Street Fighter II Turbo for the SNES. I like the character colors for the first SNES game...but it was lacking in characters.
I'm not a tourney folk, though.
Only ones I REALLY like are Street Fighter II: Tournament Edition, Killer Instinct, and WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game. Of course, all arcade.
atomicthumbs
08-01-2003, 05:04 AM
Well... As for MK1, Sega CD. Hand's down. But for the series? I've always been fond of MKA on GBA.
Just kidding about the MKA.
kainemaxwell
08-01-2003, 09:48 AM
For MK1 probably the Genesis or the Sega CD version (depends how much a fan of load times between matches and between Shang's transformations you are.)
For MK2, SNES, hands down.
digitalpress
08-01-2003, 10:17 AM
Well... As for MK1, Sega CD. Hand's down.
Yer kiddin'.
Those LOAD TIMES... ack! And how about when you play Shang Tsung and use the "morph" feature... it actually stops in the middle of a battle to LOAD the new character! Add to this the fact that you have wait about 8 seconds between every round and to people like me who NEED that fluidity between rounds (I call it "momentum"), the Sega CD version is the WORST!
I do like the built-in music on the Sega CD version, and even the little movies that are added in, but these bells and whistles don't compensate for what you lose in terms of gameplay, IMHO.
orrimarrko
08-01-2003, 10:27 AM
Supergun baby!
Arcade Antics
08-01-2003, 10:41 AM
If by you're looking for the best home console version of the first MK game, then the Genesis version is the one you're after. Plays great, authentic fatalities, blood, etc. (remember: DULLARD) Only down side is the limited color palette.
If you're looking for the best home console version of ANY MK game, then the runaway winner is MKII on the SNES. Super accurate port in every way.
Bratwurst
08-01-2003, 11:46 AM
What about MKII for the 32X? Graphically it looks a lot better than the SNES one. I'd think it was pretty fast too and all.. with that blast processing. BAM
Arcade Antics
08-01-2003, 11:55 AM
What about MKII for the 32X? Graphically it looks a lot better than the SNES one. I'd think it was pretty fast too and all.. with that blast processing. BAM
IMO, the SNES version is vastly superior to the 32X version in every way.
Raedon
08-01-2003, 01:00 PM
The Genesis has the worst video output of all the 16 bitters. Anything out of it looks like ass. AND no S-Video support! Ugh.. Snes had the best fighter ports... most of the time anyway. MK1 was the start of Kiddie Nintendo that sent them down the road to lameness they are at today.
Mustang93
08-01-2003, 01:47 PM
for the original Mortal Kombat id have to say the Sega CD version. as i remember it, it was closest to the arcade version at the time.
Arcade Antics
08-01-2003, 01:53 PM
for the original Mortal Kombat id have to say the Sega CD version. as i remember it, it was closest to the arcade version at the time.
Genesis cart version is better - the gameplay and graphics are identical to the CD version and there are no loadtimes.
The Sega CD version is the Worst. Use. Of CD gaming. Ever. It's the Genesis cart version with nicer sound and a FMV of the commercial with the dude yelling "Mortal Kombat!" in the streets. Avoid the Sega CD version.
digitalpress
08-01-2003, 01:58 PM
It's funny that two people thought the Sega CD version was GOOD, let alone the best! How on earth could anyone get around those load times (see my previous diatribe) and Shang Tsung issues?
E Nice
08-01-2003, 05:00 PM
The graphics aren't exactly identical. Sega CD had background animation in some levels that the Genesis version didn't, plus the pit stage had all those heads and bodies on the spikes. I think Shang Tsung also had a better sound effect for his fireballs on CD compared to Genesis. The cd also had like 4 remixes of MK music at the end, the kind that was on the movie soundtrack. Obviously all this is just trivial compared to gameplay and load times but they are interesting nonetheless.
I thought the 32X was slightly better looking than the SNES. The -alties weren't written as small, the acid stage wasn't so cluttered. The pit fatality animation wasn't as choppy. The 32X had a better opening title sequence plus the story intro with pictures. Soundwise it would go to SNES. I'm a bit partial to Genesis 6-button control so I prefer the Genesis style for gameplay.
Anthony1
08-01-2003, 08:58 PM
The Genesis has the worst video output of all the 16 bitters. Anything out of it looks like ass. AND no S-Video support! Ugh.. Snes had the best fighter ports... most of the time anyway. MK1 was the start of Kiddie Nintendo that sent them down the road to lameness they are at today.
Dude, it sounds like you really need a RGB monitor and a RGB cable for the Sega Genesis. Once you see the Genesis in RGB on a RGB monitor, your attitude about it's video quality will take a 180 degree turn.
When I play a game like Gunstar Heroes or Sonic 2 on my RGB monitor in RGB, it looks simply stunning!
Raedon
08-01-2003, 09:06 PM
The Genesis has the worst video output of all the 16 bitters. Anything out of it looks like ass. AND no S-Video support! Ugh.. Snes had the best fighter ports... most of the time anyway. MK1 was the start of Kiddie Nintendo that sent them down the road to lameness they are at today.
Dude, it sounds like you really need a RGB monitor and a RGB cable for the Sega Genesis. Once you see the Genesis in RGB on a RGB monitor, your attitude about it's video quality will take a 180 degree turn.
When I play a game like Gunstar Heroes or Sonic 2 on my RGB monitor in RGB, it looks simply stunning!
RGB monitor... lets take a look at this.. RGB monitor=not something joe-gamer can get in over 17 inches
Post the hack you use to get RGB out of a Genesis.. I have not seen this post here because 1) No one has an RGB monitor over 14 inches and 2) Sega was so lame they didn't include it at the cable level. S-Video was the name of the game in 1990 and Sega ignored it.
sniperCCJVQ
08-01-2003, 09:10 PM
IMO the SNES port of MKII it's the best and it's more easier to me to make all the move with the SNES pad, i never had any success with the Genesis.
Also like The Maninal said, Killer Instinct (arcade) and WWF Wrestlemania Arcade (arcade) are good too. But like MKII, i'm much better on the console port.
Street Figther II Turbo (SNES) it's not bad also.
Drexel923
08-01-2003, 09:31 PM
IMO the SNES port of MKII it's the best and it's more easier to me to make all the move with the SNES pad, i never had any success with the Genesis.
Also like The Maninal said, Killer Instinct (arcade) and WWF Wrestlemania Arcade (arcade) are good too. But like MKII, i'm much better on the console port.
Street Figther II Turbo (SNES) it's not bad also.
Thanks for typing exactly what I was thinking...saves me the time.
Anthony1
08-01-2003, 09:45 PM
RGB monitor... lets take a look at this.. RGB monitor=not something joe-gamer can get in over 17 inches
Post the hack you use to get RGB out of a Genesis.. I have not seen this post here because 1) No one has an RGB monitor over 14 inches and 2) Sega was so lame they didn't include it at the cable level. S-Video was the name of the game in 1990 and Sega ignored it.[/quote]
Actually, there are lots of 20 inch RGB monitors. Sony used to make them in the 20 inch size. And if you consider the Scart TV's in the U.K., then you can go up to much larger sizes as well.
Regarding a hack, I don't use a hack. I use a RGB cable that I had a guy make me. He can make you one too. It would cost 20 bucks with about 4 bucks shipping depending on where you live. Also once you buy the main cable, you can get the little attachments for each of the different systems for like 10 to 15 bucks! Right now, I'm enjoying my Genesis, SNES, Saturn, Jaguar and Playstation in incredible RGB. If I had a PS2, I could use my PSX RGB cable with that too.
Tetsu
08-01-2003, 10:20 PM
No one has an RGB monitor over 14 inches
Actually i have a 19 inch RGB monitor, and you can get one too for about $100 on ebay.
Regarding the "hack", all you need is a cable to go from the R, G, B, ground, L speaker, R speaker, and composite sync to the appropriately labeled jacks on your monitor/stereo. You can build such a cable yourself, or jury-rig a bunch of wires out of your Genesis. Not very pretty or sturdy, but you can be playing in 4 minutes and virtually zero money.
Anthony1
08-01-2003, 10:25 PM
No one has an RGB monitor over 14 inches
Actually i have a 19 inch RGB monitor, and you can get one too for about $100 on ebay.
Regarding the "hack", all you need is a cable to go from the R, G, B, ground, L speaker, R speaker, and composite sync to the appropriately labeled jacks on your monitor/stereo. You can build such a cable yourself, or jury-rig a bunch of wires out of your Genesis. Not very pretty or sturdy, but you can be playing in 4 minutes and virtually zero money.
What is the name and model # of your monitor?
Do you have RGB cables for all your systems?
The only systems I know that can't output RGB whatsoever, are pre NES systems and the 3DO. Although the NES needs an incredibly expensive mod to make it output RGB, so you might as well include the NES along with the 3DO as the two major systems that cannot output a RGB signal.
1bigmig
08-02-2003, 10:53 AM
Mortal Kombat 3 for the Sega Master System ;)
ManekiNeko
08-02-2003, 10:58 AM
Mortal Kombat II on the Super NES. The Saturn version of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was a pretty good translation, but since it was based on a less inspired game I'd have to give the crown to MKII.
JR
The Saturn version of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was a pretty good translation
Really? I thought it was horrid. Certainly nowhere close to the arcade, or any of Capcom's Saturn ports.
The sad part is, I think the Saturn could have had perfect versions of MK2 and MK3, had the relevant programmers been more competent. Stupid Midway, Probe, et all.
mauigamer
08-03-2003, 05:32 AM
You guys really like the SNES version better than the trilogy for the Nintendo 64? Please tell me how you come to this conclusion. The N 64 has all the moves, gore, graphics, fastloading time and sound. Tell me what is better about the Mortal Kombat 2 for SNES. :?
mauigamer
08-04-2003, 12:10 AM
bump
Tetsu
08-04-2003, 08:52 PM
Tell me what is better about the Mortal Kombat 2 for SNES. :?
The controller.
E Nice
08-04-2003, 11:19 PM
LOL
You're serious?
Tetsu
08-07-2003, 01:05 AM
What is the name and model # of your monitor?
Do you have RGB cables for all your systems?
The only systems I know that can't output RGB whatsoever, are pre NES systems and the 3DO. Although the NES needs an incredibly expensive mod to make it output RGB, so you might as well include the NES along with the 3DO as the two major systems that cannot output a RGB signal.[/quote]
It is a Sony PVM 1910. I have RGB cables made for all my systems except the NES and ps2. No big deal, this monitor accepts standard NTSC video from an NES and the ps2 (via a BNC to RCA adapter). I haven't gotten around to making a PS2 cable yet, although i just use the ps1 cable whenever i want to. Just lazy, i guess. Some Sony 1910's (not mine) accept S-video, as do some Commodore monitors, so you can hook up your 3DO that way. and an NES rgb mod is more trouble and money than it is worth, just use a Dreamcast with RGB and NesterDC.
Tetsu
08-07-2003, 01:15 AM
LOL
You're serious?
Please tell me how you come to this conclusion. The N 64 has all the moves, gore, graphics, fastloading time and sound. Tell me what is better about the Mortal Kombat 2 for SNES.
All the moves, gore, loading times, animation, etc. don't mean shit when the game has to be played on the N64's controller. It just wasn't designed with fighting games in mind. The key term here is "useability". The SNES controller, while far from perfect, was actually pretty good for mortal combat, as the four face buttons were used for the four kicks and punches and the shoulder buttons were easy access to the block button.
mauigamer
08-07-2003, 02:04 AM
I never had a problem playing Mortal Kombat on the N64 controller. It was games that incorporated the z trigger and the pad that I had problems with. So what your saying is if you had a arcade controller for the N64 then the trilogy would be better than the SNES version?
Tetsu
08-08-2003, 08:02 PM
So what your saying is if you had a arcade controller for the N64 then the trilogy would be better than the SNES version?
But there aren't any (good quality) "fighting" arcade sticks, or pads, for the N64, are there? And I mean heavy duty, Ascii pads or Agetec Dreamcast style sticks, not the Pelican crap out there. Mortal Kombat 2 can be had for about $7 on SNES, and is perfectly playable on standard SNES controllers. N64 Trilogy is about $15-20 used and the controllers would take some getting used to. I'm saying that the best home version of Mortal Kombat can be had cheaply and recreated very faithfully in Mortal Kombat 2 for the SNES, and prefer it to the N64 version for those reasons.
Ixiah
08-08-2003, 11:00 PM
You guys really like the SNES version better than the trilogy for the Nintendo 64? Please tell me how you come to this conclusion. The N 64 has all the moves, gore, graphics, fastloading time and sound. Tell me what is better about the Mortal Kombat 2 for SNES. :?
MK3 is better, as the controls were easier and UMK3 would be the best had it not been for the bugs.