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PreZZ
09-15-2012, 10:41 PM
People have been talking about making custom molds from the original shell of the sega neptune, but the cost was too high... It would be awesome if someone did a kickstarter for it, then we could put genesis 3 guts + 32X inside!! What do you guys think ?

Kitsune Sniper
09-15-2012, 10:43 PM
Genesis 3 guts? Isn't that system glitchy with some games?

Leo_A
09-15-2012, 10:52 PM
It doesn't work with the Power Base Converter, Sega CD, or the 32X. So it doesn't strike me as a useful idea unless it's easily modable to work with it.

As for Genesis cartridges, mine seems to have 100% compatibility outside of Virtua Racing (Which apparently is a simple fix to get working on it). Never had any glitches, audio and video are 100%, etc. Plays every Genesis cartridge in my collection and I believe also works just fine with my Everdrive cartridge.

The Genesis 3 doesn't deserve its reputation. Has nearly perfect compatibility with actual Genesis cartridges, correct video and audio, it looks good, it's well built, has better composite out than most Genesis 1 and 2's, has a controller that puts to shame the controllers that have shipped with console clones since then, it supports standard Genesis accessories, etc.

Other than the 32X, Sega CD, and Virtua Racing, it does it all. And even though it lacks S-Video, that's hardly a unique fault where Sega Genesis consoles are concerned. Probably its biggest failing was the lack of stereo output (At least the composite cables that I bought for mine back in the 90's were mono only, so I assume they all were).

PreZZ
09-15-2012, 11:02 PM
genesis 3 is fine, it just gets bashed because it doesnt work with sega cd, 32x,etc but it is possible through modding. Its very small so it would fit inside the neptune shell with the 32X. In fact the genesis 3 is very good for regular genesis, who cares about virtua racing anyways it sucked...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3IZNCaLJSw&feature=player_embedded

MASTERWEEDO
09-15-2012, 11:06 PM
I know that Gargoyles doesnt work right on the Genesis 3. I'd use the Genesis 2 internals and the 32x.

PreZZ
09-15-2012, 11:10 PM
I don't think the model 2 + 32X would fit inside the neptune shell...

Steve W
09-15-2012, 11:23 PM
Does anybody know how good the compatibility is with the Genesis plug-and-play units that were on the market a few years ago? Has anybody figured out how to mod those?

weirdguy
09-16-2012, 12:07 AM
I don't think the model 2 + 32X would fit inside the neptune shell...

With some work, you can fit a model 2 + 32x inside a model 2 shell... So i don't know how they wouldn't fit inside a neptune shell.

geezuzkhrist119
09-16-2012, 12:11 AM
Wouldn't Sega have a problem with this?

Gunstar Hero
09-16-2012, 12:21 AM
You guys may wanna check this out it adds the sega cd as well and uses the Saturn shell. It's called the Sega Fusion and has Sega Genesis, 32X, and CD all in one! Skip towards the end for gameplay.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxoXNi_qCkQ&feature=related

PreZZ
09-16-2012, 12:30 AM
yeah i saw the fusion before its really neat, but the holy grail for me would be to have an exact replica of the original neptune shell... if somehow we could fit a cd tray somewhere it would be even better!! And btw if you read correctly the kickstarter would be only for making the molds to produce the shell, not a complete system with the genesis components inside, so i dont think sega could really do something against it... everybody would be on their own to put the guts inside (or maybe guys like otaku store could surely help) ... maybe we could use a cdx (AAAAHH i know i dont want to gut mine!) since its really compact... or maybe a nomad?

MASTERWEEDO
09-16-2012, 01:01 AM
I want the Fusion.....but I'd love to use the Saturn controllers.

Duke.Togo
09-16-2012, 01:25 AM
Funny, one of my co-hosts joked about doing this very thing in our recent podcast.

I've seen the Neptune shell at CGE, and I'd be surprised if you could fit a model 2 +32X into it, as it didn't seem as tall as the model 2. This was just eyeballing it though, so I don't have exact measurements.

I'd love something like this simply to cut down on the power supply mess.

I'd be much more interested in a clear NES system shell though ;)

PreZZ
09-16-2012, 01:57 AM
yeah i dont know why its so easy to find custom shells for ds, psp, xbox etc. and nobody does shells for nes its been out for so long!!! It would be great to buy new Nes shells to replace the yellowy beat up old nes shells. If you've never seen the custom ones made by jayrod2, they are absolutely awesome check them out!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoRFNA0IADo&list=UUkzDA3tbYMznWeEEmr6kpig&index=30&feature=plcp all his custom paint job are absolutely top notch! Although a clear Nes shell would be cool, there's just something special for me to bring back a console that never came out and build one like the neptune

theclaw
09-16-2012, 02:22 AM
Custom NES shell could be great. Even better if we had a source of vertical 72 pin connectors, it'd make the NES about an inch smaller doing away with that infamous loader mechanism.

YoshiM
09-16-2012, 02:27 AM
Other than the 32X, Sega CD, and Virtua Racing, it does it all.

That's because GENESIS DOES....

(sorry I just HAD to! I HAD to! I know someone in the audience was thinking it! Anyone....?)

Duke.Togo
09-16-2012, 09:02 AM
Custom NES shell could be great. Even better if we had a source of vertical 72 pin connectors, it'd make the NES about an inch smaller doing away with that infamous loader mechanism.

I've often said that someone should make replacement 72-pin sets that are simply card slot connectors on both ends. The costs wouldn't go up much, no need for cutting or case mods. You'd simply not be able to push the cart down.

Greg2600
09-16-2012, 10:44 AM
How are you going to sell of these, 100? 200? Not worth the price indeed.

RCM
09-16-2012, 10:49 AM
I've never understood the interest around the Neptune. I'm a huge fan of Sega games around that era and got a 32X at launch, but there really isn't anything worth playing on that "console." It stinks.

SparTonberry
09-16-2012, 02:49 PM
I know that Gargoyles doesnt work right on the Genesis 3. I'd use the Genesis 2 internals and the 32x.

Isn't because the game depend on some obscure bug in older consoles that was fixed on the Genesis 3?

PreZZ
09-16-2012, 02:52 PM
I know 32x is not very good, but for me being a sega fan its just that now its possible to build a console that never came out... the only thing missing is the shell, it would be the greatest showcase of my collection. I dont care how much the casing would cost me (100$? maybe even more?) this would certainly take some value for a complete moded sega branded neptune... I would even pay for a custom system box!!

Hwj_Chim
09-16-2012, 03:34 PM
Here is a Neptune mod using a Genny 2 guts and case. I know not the Neptune case but it should not be hard to fit it into a Neptune case.

http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega/32x/sega-neptune-reborn-in-genesis-32x-hardware-mod

PreZZ
09-16-2012, 03:59 PM
the neptune case is very slim in the front, thats why i think we would need the genny 3...

kedawa
09-16-2012, 07:01 PM
I'd buy an FPGA clone of the Genesis+32X in a Neptune shell.

Leo_A
09-16-2012, 07:47 PM
the neptune case is very slim in the front, thats why i think we would need the genny 3...

Clearly it's never going to happen. But if it did, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that you'd remove the guts of a Genesis 3 and remove the guts of a 32X, attach them while doing some simple hardware fix to make them compatible (That as far as I'm aware has never actually been explained, just demonstrated via video after completion), and then just plug them into a new shell created via Kickstarter and voila, you have a Sega Neptune...

Look into all of the projects that Ben Heck has done. Such a thing would require chopping apart the internal components of the Genesis and the 32X while rearranging everything along with a healthy dose of creativity, imagination, and skill.

The size of an existing console case isn't particularly relevant with such a project. Look at this Colecovision portable using the innards of a real Colecovision. Then recall the size of a real Colecovision...

http://www.benheck.com/Games/Coleco/Coleco_Main.jpg

And then realize he and others like him have accomplished such things with most consoles of the past 35 years to create small handheld versions of them using actual internals for the system along with integrating controls, a screen, speakers, and a battery into these things.

The size of a Genesis 2 case really has nothing to do with if it's possibility. I'm quite sure someone like Ben Heck could get a Genesis 1 and a 32X into the internal space of a Neptune if they wanted to. Probably be a breeze compared to the really space constrained projects such folks usually undertake to turn consoles into self contained handhelds.

jb143
09-17-2012, 12:39 PM
Wouldn't Sega have a problem with this?

Probably, but more than likely kickstarter would pull the plug before Sega even knew about it.

Kickstarter Terms of Use:

You shall not... Submit Content, that:

infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, right of publicity, or other right of any other person or entity, or violates any law or contract

Maybe if you didn't put the Sega logo on it and kept the description extremely vague, like simply calling it a classic video game console replacement shell...but then that would make it a harder sell as well.

BlastProcessing402
09-17-2012, 03:50 PM
who cares about virtua racing anyways it sucked...

Like the 32x didn't suck? Might as well get this shell made and then just stick any Genesis guts you want in it and screw the 32x compatibility if you're gonna start excluding things from mattering because they suck.

That Fusion thing is pretty sweet, I have to admit. I don't know that I'd sacrifice a Saturn to make one, though.

kedawa
09-17-2012, 08:10 PM
Shadow Squadron and Virtua Fighter deserve to be played on sexy looking system, at least.