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ncman071
09-20-2012, 09:37 PM
just last night i saw the ad on gamestop.com that the neo geo x gold system was coming out...making me very excited....however, i haven't actually seen whether or not you can play neo geo carts on it...i know it says something about a sd slot or something but can anyone shed some light?
PreZZ
09-20-2012, 10:21 PM
Holy S*** I remember hearing about this, but i thought it was only a portable gaming device, not a bundle including a console and joystick!!
http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/images/news/2012/newneogeo.htm
looks awesome and I will be 200$ poorer
buzz_n64
09-20-2012, 10:57 PM
Very cool! Love how they're doing a console as well! They didn't mention specifically if it will be compatible with AES or MVS carts or not. Hopefully it will play MVS, or be compatible with MVS adapters.
Bojay1997
09-20-2012, 11:32 PM
It's a handheld device that will plug into a docking station (shaped like a Neo Geo AES console) with HDMI output and a separate joystick modeled after the old Neo Geo Home/AES joystick. It's not capable of playing AES/MVS or any other form of old SNK Neo Geo media. It basically plays ROMS. It's also not being manufactured or designed by SNK, it's being designed and manufactured by Blaze which has made some very crappy Sega branded handhelds previously. Tommo will distribute it in the US. Nobody knows if it will play any Neo Geo ROM like some other Blaze products or how much they will charge for games beyond the 20 included in the unit. Additional games are contained on SD cards and will be sold separately. Having said all that, the specs on the handheld are pretty good and assuming it does emulation ok and the build quality is decent (it's being manufactured in China and unfortunately, Blaze has a lousy quality reputation), it might be a neat unit to own once the price drops to a more reasonable level.
NayusDante
09-21-2012, 10:16 AM
I've been following this a bit, and I'm still really not sure about how it works. The "console" thing is supposedly the dock. I don't think you can plug real carts into it, but the handheld might fit into the cart slot.
What bothers me is that they used a 16:9 screen on the handheld. I'd expect scaling issues.
kaedesdisciple
09-21-2012, 12:22 PM
::shudders at the thought of trying to play a "portable" system with an MVS or AES cart sticking out of it::
Still appears to be interesting, I'll be keeping my eye on it.
Bojay1997
09-21-2012, 12:32 PM
I've been following this a bit, and I'm still really not sure about how it works. The "console" thing is supposedly the dock. I don't think you can plug real carts into it, but the handheld might fit into the cart slot.
What bothers me is that they used a 16:9 screen on the handheld. I'd expect scaling issues.
I can say with 100% certainty that it doesn't play AES/MVS or NGP/NGPC carts in any way. The "console" is just a shell that opens in clamshell fashion and you place the handheld inside to output to the TV. The joystick itself appears to be a repurposed version of the stick they were selling for the PS3 in Japan a while back and the base is a little smaller than the original AES home joystick. The 16:9 screen is a major concern, but Tommo and Blaze are being very secretive about many details on the final product and have pulled down several promo videos that were posted a few weeks ago.
Robocop2
09-21-2012, 12:43 PM
::shudders at the thought of trying to play a "portable" system with an MVS or AES cart sticking out of it::
Still appears to be interesting, I'll be keeping my eye on it.
LOL and people complained about the size of the LYNX and Nomad back in the day
PreZZ
09-21-2012, 01:19 PM
If they can make a high quality product, I can see this console becoming very rare and valuable in a couple of years, because I dont expect them to sell more than 100,000... neo geo is a very niche product for hardcore gamers, Mom and Dad wont buy this for little jimmy, especially at that price!
It looks good, I want one!
Bojay1997
09-21-2012, 01:52 PM
If they can make a high quality product, I can see this console becoming very rare and valuable in a couple of years, because I dont expect them to sell more than 100,000... neo geo is a very niche product for hardcore gamers, Mom and Dad wont buy this for little jimmy, especially at that price!
It looks good, I want one!
Unlikely. It's not produced by SNK and it's essentially just an emulator with the ability to play ROMS off SD cards. I see this declining in value over time rather than maintaining it's $200 launch price point.
PreZZ
09-21-2012, 02:51 PM
Unlikely. It's not produced by SNK and it's essentially just an emulator with the ability to play ROMS off SD cards. I see this declining in value over time rather than maintaining it's $200 launch price point.
Generation Nex wasnt made by nintendo and its complete crap, but its very rare and still sells for more than its retail price... it looks good, even if its emulation (neo geo cartridge are still expensive) if its done right and feels like a quality SNK product this will be very sought for, but it wont sell very good at retail. Kids dont give a $#&* about this, they only care about call of duty! I think its a good idea they use roms, because they are very few neo geo carts in the wild, even on ebay and too expensive. So you can get the entire Neo Geo collection on something that plays and looks like the original with hdmi output, this is genius! If only they could do the same for sega and nintendo :puppydogeyes:
Bojay1997
09-21-2012, 02:57 PM
Generation Nex wasnt made by nintendo and its complete crap, but its very rare and still sells for more than its retail price... it looks good, even if its emulation (neo geo cartridge are still expensive) if its done right and feels like a quality SNK product this will be very sought for, but it wont sell very good at retail. Kids dont give a $#&* about this, they only care about call of duty! I think its a good idea they use roms, because they are very few neo geo carts in the wild, even on ebay and too expensive. So you can get the entire Neo Geo collection on something that plays and looks like the original with hdmi output, this is genius! If only they could do the same for sega and nintendo :puppydogeyes:
Generation Nex wasn't an emulator though. It was a clone of the NES with various improvements like wireless controllers and it played the majority of NES games. People want them because it improves in a lot of ways over the original NES. Nobody buys Generation NEX as a collectible or for it's rarity. This device is essentially a handheld emulator device that can be placed in a plastic adapter to output to the TV and played with an external joystick. I would have loved it if they simply reissued the Neo Geo AES hardware at lower cost using all the same components which are far cheaper today and sold multi-carts with it. Unfortunately, instead they created this mess of a device.
kedawa
09-21-2012, 04:50 PM
I don't understand how any NeoGeo fan could be excited for this, unless they actually enjoy paying a premium to play emulated ROMs at the wrong aspect ratio on a cheap chinese Linux handheld.
Bojay1997
09-21-2012, 06:11 PM
I don't understand how any NeoGeo fan could be excited for this, unless they actually enjoy paying a premium to play emulated ROMs at the wrong aspect ratio on a cheap chinese Linux handheld.
I agree and yet there seem to be a strong number of people promoting this on Neo-geo.com.
Sabz5150
09-21-2012, 07:25 PM
cheap chinese Linux handheld.
It'll be emulating everything under the sun about a month after its release. Bet on it.
wiggyx
09-21-2012, 08:03 PM
^^^ this.
I'll buy one as long as the quality is decent. I'd wager that it's of decent quality with a price tag like that. We'll see...
c0ldb33r
09-21-2012, 08:27 PM
It'd be great if you could plug authentic neogeo joysticks into the base :D
Sabz5150
09-22-2012, 08:59 AM
^^^ this.
I'll buy one as long as the quality is decent. I'd wager that it's of decent quality with a price tag like that. We'll see...
I'd guess that its an embedded ARM system with a small amount of internal flash for the emulator and built-in ROMs. Being ARM and Linux, it should be easier than flup to modify. If the emulator itself is sub-par (or will not run... *ahem*... backups), then it won't take much effort to port a higher performance or more feature filled one on that system.
No, it probably won't be perfect but it beats trying to pry an AES out of its owner's cold, dead hands.
ncman071
09-22-2012, 01:19 PM
well this is definitly depressing. i was so excited about possibling finally owning an AES at a halfway affordable price but if it doesn't play the original carts...i'm not biting....i would have loved to see it include the 20 built in games in ADDITION to playing the carts.......
still if the system was under $120 or so....i may would consider but i'm not.
c0ldb33r
09-22-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm hoping I'll eventually be able to play windjammers if it eventually gets released
kedawa
09-22-2012, 01:58 PM
You can play Windjammers on GGPO, but nobody does.
Balloon Fight
09-23-2012, 06:38 AM
Meh, I have a CMVS on the way. I'll stick with that.
retro junkie
09-23-2012, 10:31 AM
The portable alone is only $129. I need to know more information about how to acquire more games and just how this system handles the games. Then I will know whether or not to jump on the bandwagon. But I am very interested in a dedicated Neo Geo portable. I will keep watch over what transpires with the Neo Geo X.
Robocop2
09-23-2012, 10:51 AM
It looks like the plan is to sell games separately on SD card. The GS preorder comes with one game loaded on an SD card as a bonus. Not sure if the others will be one game per card but that seems kind of inefficient use of the space on a card sinc I doubt one game would take up a considerable amount of space.
kedawa
09-23-2012, 02:13 PM
Unless the emulation is damn near perfect, the controls are NGPC quality, and the firmware is hackable, I would just buy a Dingoo A320 for half the price instead.
WanganRunner
09-28-2012, 11:19 AM
So can this thing play real AES carts or not?
It looks cool, apparently "commissioned by SNK Playmore", at least the console, dunno about the handheld (which looks janky).
kedawa
09-28-2012, 01:06 PM
There is no "console".
It's just a dock for the handheld.
None of this is compatible with any NeoGeo carts.
Bojay1997
09-28-2012, 01:20 PM
So can this thing play real AES carts or not?
It looks cool, apparently "commissioned by SNK Playmore", at least the console, dunno about the handheld (which looks janky).
It's not "commissioned" by SNK Playmore. The only thing SNK Playmore had to do with this is licensing the right to use the name, docking station and joystick case designs and the roms to Blaze and Tommo. They literally were approached and handed money by Blaze and Tommo in exchange for permission and had nothing to do with anything beyond that.
WanganRunner
09-28-2012, 02:53 PM
There is no "console".
It's just a dock for the handheld.
None of this is compatible with any NeoGeo carts.
Oh wow, that's dumb.
XYXZYZ
09-28-2012, 09:25 PM
To me, this thing completely misses the whole point of Neo Geo; half the fun is in the hardware. You're supposed to play Neo Geo by slamming an oversized cartridge into the system with both hands, on a 36 inch CRT with a stereo cranked up blasting 16-bit rock music, pounding a full sized arcade joystick on a chest-pounding testosterone rush yelling "FUCK SEGA WITH MY 24-BIT POWAAH!!" --not on some dinky little handheld.
I mean, most of us know that ROMs "just aren't the same" but that's especially true for Neo Geo.