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Bubble_Man
10-08-2012, 09:38 PM
It was a copy of Monster Madness: Grave Danger that I bought from Gamestop. I was cleaning the smudging/fingerprints off and held it up to a light to see if I got them all. When I did, it just so happened that there was a pin-sized hole with light shining through. Has anyone else experienced this with any of their blue ray games or movies? I was surprised to see it on a relatively young disc like that.

Rickstilwell1
10-08-2012, 09:41 PM
Usually it would be a factory error. I have bought brand new CD-R's with a little pinhole on some of the discs. Somehow the disc was still able to be burned.

Enmity
10-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Disk based media actually has a bad sector fail safe. The entire disk isn't used normally when burning the "full" available space. For two reasons one the outer area of the disk is where the ink isn't as good as it is closer to the inner part of the disk. Using that part of the disk has a bigger fail rate then the rest. That section is also used for sector failure in case of this situation. The burner will skip the ring that has the pin hole and proceed out that much further on the disk.

That area on the disk is where the mod scene for xbox found the extra gig of disk space on dual layers to burn the new format of 360 games. They literally burn to the edge of the disk. If you truncate the disk it stops at the normal point and that extra gig is unused.

Rickstilwell1
10-08-2012, 10:01 PM
Disk based media actually has a bad sector fail safe. The entire disk isn't used normally when burning the "full" available space. For two reasons one the outer area of the disk is where the ink isn't as good as it is closer to the inner part of the disk. Using that part of the disk has a bigger fail rate then the rest. That section is also used for sector failure in case of this situation. The burner will skip the ring that has the pin hole and proceed out that much further on the disk.

That area on the disk is where the mod scene for xbox found the extra gig of disk space on dual layers to burn the new format of 360 games. They literally burn to the edge of the disk. If you truncate the disk it stops at the normal point and that extra gig is unused.

Ah so maybe if I truncate my Pink Panther DVD disc burning of the .VOB files when burning them to the DVD, I might end up still having all of the full episodes even though it says a few MB of data won't copy over?

Maybe the case would also be the same for Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast. It seems to start up just fine. I just haven't played all the way through the backup to see if it is missing anything from my original.

Enmity
10-08-2012, 10:17 PM
Ah so maybe if I truncate my Pink Panther DVD disc burning of the .VOB files when burning them to the DVD, I might end up still having all of the full episodes even though it says a few MB of data won't copy over?

Maybe the case would also be the same for Sonic Adventure on Dreamcast. It seems to start up just fine. I just haven't played all the way through the backup to see if it is missing anything from my original.

You can use overburn for dreamcast games. It is how you are able to fit 800megs on the 740meg disks. It uses the same concept and just forces that few extra megs onto the disk. You can also try it with the Pink Panther DVDs. If its only a few megs then chances are you have the full eps you might just be missing padding files which are useless.

Rickstilwell1
10-08-2012, 10:33 PM
You can use overburn for dreamcast games. It is how you are able to fit 800megs on the 740meg disks. It uses the same concept and just forces that few extra megs onto the disk. You can also try it with the Pink Panther DVDs. If its only a few megs then chances are you have the full eps you might just be missing padding files which are useless.

That is good to know. I would hate to buy Dual Layer DVDs which are more expensive, just to squeeze in a few MB of data.

BlastProcessing402
10-09-2012, 04:15 PM
Disk based media actually has a bad sector fail safe. The entire disk isn't used normally when burning the "full" available space. For two reasons one the outer area of the disk is where the ink isn't as good as it is closer to the inner part of the disk. Using that part of the disk has a bigger fail rate then the rest. That section is also used for sector failure in case of this situation. The burner will skip the ring that has the pin hole and proceed out that much further on the disk.

Nitpicking here, but optical discs don't have rings, they have one continuous spiral.