3DO or Neo Geo CD, I'm thinking of selling my copy of Rockman Battle and Fighters

[Urzu402]

And getting one of those consoles.... but I need help deciding.

[wiggyx]

I'd go Neo Geo. The 3DO library is about 99% crap-o-la IMO.

[IHatedSega]

Im kind of a fanboy for Neo Geo now. As much as the load times will drive you crazy if you dont have a beer or eating a meal in between rounds, Id definitely go with the Neo Geo CD. It has FAR better games than the 3DO, and the 3DO apparently is proving to be an unreliable retro system to invest in. $700 and its had a ton of break downs for people. Plus you can get the CD versions of the AES games for good prices on ebay. It would have been a much faster system if it had another processor, but the point of it was to sell for a good price since the AES was so expensive. Thats really the only problem with it. Also the clicking of the controller will either be cool to you or annoy people around you, but I like it. Its cheap since people hate it so much.

Get the usual Neo Geo games like King of Fighters, Samurai Shodown, King of The Monsters, World Heroes, Art of Fighting, Fatal Fury, Galaxy Fight looks cool, Metal Slug and Twinkle Star Sprites for shooters, and Sengoku for a beat em up. If youve never played Neo Geo fighters, theyre hard but worth investing in. Im gonna buy a Neo Geo X Gold in December and gonna play the hell out of it and nail all the games it has that I want. Honestly, I think at this point that would be a better investment, theyre going to be releasing games for it. http://www.racketboy.com/retro/snkneo-geo/best-neo-geo-games-defined

If you do get a 3DO then Luciens Quest and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo are really the only games Id recommend. I never got into Gex, but thats on it as well. i like this site for suggestions for different games. The board may even have guys selling each system. http://www.racketboy.com/retro/3do/games-that-defined-the-3do-interactive-multiplayer


PS, why are you thinking of buying these of all the older systems, and why not a Turbo Duo? Are these just the last ones to get but you can only get one right now? WHat other classic systems do you like?

[FrankSerpico]

The 3DO actually has a really good port of Samurai Shodown. I'd go with the Neo CD, though. Not only does it have the superior SamSho 2, it doesn't have a library loaded with crappy FMV games.

[NerdXCrewWill]

It has FAR better games than the 3DO, and the 3DO apparently is proving to be an unreliable retro system to invest in. $700 and its had a ton of break downs for people.

The 3DO can be bought for $50 or less nowadays.

If you're a fan of shooters and fighters, definitely pick the Neo Geo CD. It has a couple of AAA titles in Twinkle Star Sprites and Puzzle Bobble. Other lesser stuff is available, but nothing is really too bad. I like Baseball Stars a lot, and that's neither a shooter nor a fighter.

The 3DO is probably more well rounded and has more top quality games. I absolutely love and adore classics like Twisted and Zhadnost, Psychic Detective, and D. It also has a few decent fighters and puzzlers like Samurai Showdow, SSFIIT, the Shin Chan puzzle game, and Trip'd.

Overall, the lower echelon of both systems' libraries are close in quality, but 3DO has more variety and more top-level games. If I recall correctly, it has also had more games released overall.

[IHatedSega]

Im glad its not a completely one sided thread for one over the other, but:

The 3DO's best games were also on better systems, it really doesnt have its own character outside of focusing on FMV games like the Sega CD did, but it also had a ton of sports games since the creator was the founder of EA. I said it was $700 because I wanted to point out that it was extremely expensive at the time of its release and it wasnt as durable as a lot of people would want with that price tag. I havent heard that the NGCD has a high rate of failure. There are games on the Neo Geo CD that are on other systems, but by far more of its core games were better on Neo Geo systems, the SNES of course didnt have CD quality sound which means the truer experience is on the Neo Geo CD and Fatal Fury is terrible on the Genesis.

With both systems you can say that eventually their best games were ported to other systems making them quasi-unnecessary, but out of the two I prefer the Neo Geo CD, its easy to find the great games for it and theyre affordable. I guess the more mysterious kind of quest would be to scour for the 3DO versions of games out there which were also on it.

[Bojay1997]

Im glad its not a completely one sided thread for one over the other, but:

The 3DO's best games were also on better systems, it really doesnt have its own character outside of focusing on FMV games like the Sega CD did, but it also had a ton of sports games since the creator was the founder of EA. I said it was $700 because I wanted to point out that it was extremely expensive at the time of its release and it wasnt as durable as a lot of people would want with that price tag. I havent heard that the NGCD has a high rate of failure. There are games on the Neo Geo CD that are on other systems, but by far more of its core games were better on Neo Geo systems, the SNES of course didnt have CD quality sound which means the truer experience is on the Neo Geo CD and Fatal Fury is terrible on the Genesis.

With both systems you can say that eventually their best games were ported to other systems making them quasi-unnecessary, but out of the two I prefer the Neo Geo CD, its easy to find the great games for it and theyre affordable. I guess the more mysterious kind of quest would be to scour for the 3DO versions of games out there which were also on it.

Disagree with your views on the 3do completely. A number of the games on the 3do were console exclusive to the 3do, even if some of them did end up on the PC. While there are quite a few FMV games for the system, there are also a lot of really unique games like Zhadnost or Twisted and some of the best 32 bit versions of games like Road Rash and Return Fire were on the 3do despite having later and inferior Playstation ports.

I think the Neo Geo is great, but there is a lack of variety in its games. I own an AES, an MVS cab and the Neo Geo CD and other than fighting games, shmups and a handful of platform games early on, there were very few games of the complexity of those released on the 3do. Frankly, Neo Geo was always meant to be an arcade system with arcade style games. 3do was meant more as a system for mid-90s console gamers or PC gamers who were tired of constantly upgrading their PCs to play the latest games.

[LimitedEditionMuseum]

There is a neo geo CD 2 that is faster but I never see them on eBay or amazon.

[Emperor Megas]

Neo Geo CD, easily. 3DO's are a dime a dozen, and as far as retro gaming goes, I just feel like the arcadey games of SNK's platform are far more enjoyable and fun to collect. With that said, I don't own a Neo Geo CD. I do own 2 3DOs and several games, and am a fan of the 3DO platform.

[IHatedSega]

Disagree with your views on the 3do completely. A number of the games on the 3do were console exclusive to the 3do, even if some of them did end up on the PC. While there are quite a few FMV games for the system, there are also a lot of really unique games like Zhadnost or Twisted and some of the best 32 bit versions of games like Road Rash and Return Fire were on the 3do despite having later and inferior Playstation ports.

Yeah I dont care for Road Rash. Neo Geo was just a arcade company that wanted people to have an arcade console in their home, and thats really unique to me. The 3DO games that Ive looked into dont interest me that were released on other systems. But not a lot of praise is written on them, so if you have a big list of great games for it, that would be a good thing read.

[XYXZYZ]

Why these two systems? 3D0 doesn't have much worth playing, and the Neo Geo CD has those abysmally long loading times. Isn't there anything else that interests you?

[Urzu402]

I ended up buying a 3DO, because the Neo Geo CD was just too expensive. The reason I wanted to choose between these two is because I already have almost every popular system out there so I wanted to try something different.

[ubersaurus]

3DO has some quality games. Check out the Wing Commanders, Gex, Super SF2 Turbo, Samurai Shodown, Road Rash, Star Control II, Guardian War... all excellent. Sewer Shark also had its best version on 3DO, if you're into a rail shooter with some FMV in there.

[kedawa]

The NeoGeo CD still gets the occasional indie game, and might one day get a fan translation of the Samurai Spirits RPG, but that's about the only advantage.

[pacmanhat]

Since you're in on 3DO, keep an eye out for The Incredible Machine (I believe it's the only console version ever made), which is a lot of fun. If you can track it down and like quirkier stuff, Way of the Warrior is a pretty bad but incredibly amusing Mortal Kombat clone with White Zombie providing all the music.

[WCP]

here's my Top 20 3DO list:


1. Road Rash - -------------------------this game IS the 3DO
2. Out of this World -------------------Beautiful
3. Crash 'n Burn ------------------------So underrated...
4. Escape from Monster Manor------ Cool Doom style game
5. Gex ----------------------------------He was 3DO's Sonic... at the time
6. The Horde --------------------------solid early tower defense type puzzle game
7. Total Eclipse ------------------------Gotta love the butt rock
8. Alone in the Dark -------------------Hasn't aged too well
9. AD & D: Slayer -----------------------This was my Skyrim in 1994
10. Wolfenstein 3D ---------------------Best version of Wolfenstein ?
11. Shock Wave ------------------------Seemed so next gen at the time..
12. Demolition Man -------------------Cheesy and Fantastic
13. Way of the Warrior ----------------Naughty Dog at their finest, lol
14. Captain Quazar ----------------------Actually looks like a video game
15. Killing Time --------------------------strange doom type game
16. Phoenix 3 -------------------------cheesy sidescroller, but rare on 3DO
17. Night Trap ----------------------- better video than sega cd version
18. The Need for Speed ------------- the original
19. PO'ed -------------------------------seems dumb but great gameplay
20. Star Figher ---------------------------kind of a starfox ripoff

Didn't Make the Cut

Fifa ---------------------------This was the first Fifa to really blow people away
Return Fire -------------------still good game
Sewer Shark -------------------better video



That's a good group to get you started. There are probably about 20 more good games as well...

[Bojay1997]

here's my Top 20 3DO list:


1. Road Rash - -------------------------this game IS the 3DO
2. Out of this World -------------------Beautiful
3. Crash 'n Burn ------------------------So underrated...
4. Escape from Monster Manor------ Cool Doom style game
5. Gex ----------------------------------He was 3DO's Sonic... at the time
6. The Horde --------------------------solid early tower defense type puzzle game
7. Total Eclipse ------------------------Gotta love the butt rock
8. Alone in the Dark -------------------Hasn't aged too well
9. AD & D: Slayer -----------------------This was my Skyrim in 1994
10. Wolfenstein 3D ---------------------Best version of Wolfenstein ?
11. Shock Wave ------------------------Seemed so next get at the time..
12. Demolition Man -------------------Cheesy and Fantastic
13. Way of the Warrior ----------------Naughty Dog at their finest, lol
14. Captain Quazar ----------------------Actually looks like a video game
15. Killing Time --------------------------strange doom type game
16. Phoenix 3 -------------------------cheesy sidescroller, but rare on 3DO
17. Night Trap ----------------------- better video than sega cd version
18. The Need for Speed ------------- the original
19. PO'ed -------------------------------seems dumb but great gameplay
20. Star Figher ---------------------------kind of a starfox ripoff

Didn't Make the Cut

Fifa ---------------------------This was the first Fifa to really blow people away
Return Fire -------------------still good game
Sewer Shark -------------------better video



That's a good group to get you started. There are probably about 20 more good games as well...

Great list. I think I played the 3do more than any other console of its generation and continued to play it well into the PS2/Dreamcast era. I still remember scooping up piles of new games for $5 and $10 each at Gamestop as they were clearing them out. I literally hit something like 12 locations in one day back when Gamestop wasn't on every block.

[The 1 2 P]

I would go with the 3DO because.....it has Vivid porn games. Actually it has a nice small amount of good titles, though not nearly as many as the more popular systems. It's also import friendly due to being region free. I have never played the Neo Geo CD and although I want to eventually get one I will echo Urzu402's sentiments that the NGCD has always been expensive whenever I looked at available systems. Hopefully I'll find one on the cheap one day. The 3DO isn't the most common system in everyone's area but when you do find the system and games they are usually very affordable and easy to collect for. For that reason alone I'd pick the 3DO over the NGCD.

[A.C. Sativa]

I personally wouldn't get either one. I have a Neo-Geo CD and I hardly ever play it, the library is mostly shooters and fighting games, so unless you really love those 2 genres (I like shooters fine but hate fighting games) it's not really worth the time. Plus, the load times are atrocious and it's kind of a fragile system. I only keep mine around just in case I get hard up for cash and need to sell it. The 3DO pretty much sucks, most of the good games are available for other systems and the majority of the rest is FMV garbage. The controller is a piece of shit and good 3rd party pads are impossible to find and expensive as all hell. And the system itself is shoddily built crap. Get the Neo-Geo if you love shooters and fighters or just want something as an investment, pass on the 3DO altogether unless you have to own every system ever made.

[Bojay1997]

I personally wouldn't get either one. I have a Neo-Geo CD and I hardly ever play it, the library is mostly shooters and fighting games, so unless you really love those 2 genres (I like shooters fine but hate fighting games) it's not really worth the time. Plus, the load times are atrocious and it's kind of a fragile system. I only keep mine around just in case I get hard up for cash and need to sell it. The 3DO pretty much sucks, most of the good games are available for other systems and the majority of the rest is FMV garbage. The controller is a piece of shit and good 3rd party pads are impossible to find and expensive as all hell. And the system itself is shoddily built crap. Get the Neo-Geo if you love shooters and fighters or just want something as an investment, pass on the 3DO altogether unless you have to own every system ever made.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you really haven't presented any helpful or insightful information here. Saying the 3do sucks and that most of the good games are available for other systems and that everything else is FMV just isn't true as the very nice list a few posts above illustrates. The controller on the 3do is just as durable as any other pad of its era IMHO and I have never had either an FZ-1 or an FZ-10 die on me.

[dchristie74]

i would go with the neo geo cd. the load time is ssssllllloooowww....but your not paying the AES cart prices. If your willing to spend more and get a little quicker loader time pick up a neo geo cdz. I have both 3do and neo geo and my neo geo cd gets more playing time.
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[Rickstilwell1]

Great list. I think I played the 3do more than any other console of its generation and continued to play it well into the PS2/Dreamcast era. I still remember scooping up piles of new games for $5 and $10 each at Gamestop as they were clearing them out. I literally hit something like 12 locations in one day back when Gamestop wasn't on every block.

I actually don't remember any Gamestop or even FuncoLand in my area ever carrying 3DO games.

[Bojay1997]

I actually don't remember any Gamestop or even FuncoLand in my area ever carrying 3DO games.

I don't know about Funcoland, but both EB and Gamestop in California both northern and southern carried 3do games at every store although I never saw actual systems for sale there. I still have a bunch of sealed games with EB and GS price stickers on them.

[retroman]

As a NEO GEO AES owner, and owner of the 3DO, i would go with the 3DO..If you are going to go NEO GEO dont get the CD. Get the AES

[WCP]

As a NEO GEO AES owner, and owner of the 3DO, i would go with the 3DO..If you are going to go NEO GEO dont get the CD. Get the AES

Yeah, I agree with this. If you get the Neo CD, you're not really getting the "true" flavor of the Neo. Honestly, playing the neo emulated on the PC, with a really good arcade qualtiy joystiq is a better experience than the loading times of the Neo CD. I don't own a AES at the moment, but I'd like to. Everybody says the games are too expensive, but I would focus in on the cheaper games, and just only have a handful of games at a time. Play the crap out of them, till you don't want to play them anymore, and then sell them and buy some other ones. Rinse and Repeat.

[j_factor]

I've always wanted a 3DO, but some of the prices are getting a little ridiculous. $250 for Lucienne's Quest? Get the fuck out. The good controllers are hard to come by as well.

[IHatedSega]

Luciennes Quest is probably the only game Id want besides that game show one. Hope the OP will say which gmaes he collects for it and documents how he feels about it. I tore it up hard, but just cause there was another option to get. Its a very curious piece of history. Wish FMV wasnt the rage with CD games back then, or then this thing could have lasted and built up a better following till it got cheaper to make.

[Rickstilwell1]

I've always wanted a 3DO, but some of the prices are getting a little ridiculous. $250 for Lucienne's Quest? Get the fuck out. The good controllers are hard to come by as well.

This is probably why so many people will just play burned games a lot of the time. Especially on the 3DO, Neo Geo CD and Sega CD where there is no region protection on the console. I'm surprised I was even able to sell any of my Sega CD games besides the Lunars and Sonic.

[IHatedSega]

Oh yeah that reminds me, theres also no copy protection lockout on the 3DO. you can download games and play them on it.

[kedawa]

As a NEO GEO AES owner, and owner of the 3DO, i would go with the 3DO..If you are going to go NEO GEO dont get the CD. Get the AES

I'd go a step further and recommend CMVS.

[Urzu402]

I bought a 3DO FZ-1 and it came with 4 games a controller and all wires to hook it up and it was 72 dollars

- Stellar 7 Draxon's Revenge. Complete and still sealed.
- VR Stalker. Complete.
- Gex. Disc only
- Advanced D & D. Slayer.

those are the games, and then I bought Super Street Fighter 2 turbo for like 35

[LiquidPolicenaut]

While I do like the Neo Geo, I gotta stand up a bit for the 3do. I owned one since launch day back in 93 and have a good amount of games for it. Oddly enough, I never actually like Lucienne's Quest but here are some of my personal favorites:

Wolfenstein 3d - Best version of the game
Shockwave/Shocwave:Operation Jumpgate/Shockwave 2: Some cheesiness involved and not so great 3d by today standards but i did thoroughly enjoy them...
Night Trap: Best version of the game
Super Street Fighter II Turbo: I still love the arranged soundtrack on this one
Twisted: Fun game-show game even today
SnowJob: One of the last releases. I like this a lot since it now looks like an early version "Google street view" lol. Cheesy but fun
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: Fun point and click game
Policenauts: First console version and has some nice/interesting differences from later releases..

[WCP]

I owned one since launch day back in 93

You're part of a rare breed of people that actually had a 3DO in October of 1993. A good friend of mine bought a 3DO on launch day, and I was over his house often in October and November of 1993. I remember that time very well. All he had at the time was the Crasn 'N Burn pack in disk. The Crash 'N Burn pack-in disk had a playable demo for Total Eclipse on the disk. We played Crash N Burn and that Total Eclipse demo constantly. Unfortunately, I don't think any other even remotely interesting game came out until January or Febuary 1994.

One thing about Crash N Burn that needs to be understood, is that in late 1993, that game was more Next-Gen than about any other game in history. You have to understand the context for the time period in which it was released. The other games that were available at that time. Nothing looked anything like it. I remember playing that game on his TV and thinking... "Man, this game is better than anything at the arcades". It's true that Crash N Burn isn't the greatest game in the world, and it has it's share of issues, but it was unbelievably jaw dropping for somebody existing in October of 1993. You look at a game like that in 1995, and it's just another misc. game. In late 1993 however, that game was revolutionary, because we had never seen anything remotely like it. The way the pixelated clouds moved in the sky. The texture mapped roads and vehicles.

I still think the music in the game is pretty good, and the gameplay is actually pretty decent, but it's very difficult in that game to finish in first place or second place, or 3rd place. I don't think I've ever seen the "ending" for that game, because I could never do well enough.

[Bojay1997]

While I do like the Neo Geo, I gotta stand up a bit for the 3do. I owned one since launch day back in 93 and have a good amount of games for it. Oddly enough, I never actually like Lucienne's Quest but here are some of my personal favorites:

Wolfenstein 3d - Best version of the game
Shockwave/Shocwave:Operation Jumpgate/Shockwave 2: Some cheesiness involved and not so great 3d by today standards but i did thoroughly enjoy them...
Night Trap: Best version of the game
Super Street Fighter II Turbo: I still love the arranged soundtrack on this one
Twisted: Fun game-show game even today
SnowJob: One of the last releases. I like this a lot since it now looks like an early version "Google street view" lol. Cheesy but fun
The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: Fun point and click game
Policenauts: First console version and has some nice/interesting differences from later releases..

Now that's impressive. I think you're the only person I have ever known who actually bought a launch 3do. In today's dollars it's the equivalent of spending $1100 for a console. I remember seeing the 3do on launch day at an independent game shop in the Los Angeles area and the owner telling me they had two preorders and that they wouldn't be stocking anymore because the risk was too high that it would sit for a while. I really wanted one, but had to wait a few years for the unit to come down to a more reasonable $200 and the games had all dropped to $5-$10 by that time.

[Tron 2.0]

Get the AES
No he shouldn't on getting a aes since later release are expensive.As for the aes,really now is not the time since prices for it are going up.I would recommend a consolized neo-geo mvs more since in price it's games can be dirt cheap.

[DeseoParadise]

Don't buy any of them and save money :D