Which of these Saturn games should I buy?

[Edmond Dantes]

So, a local store has the following Saturn games that have piqued my interest:

* Alien Trilogy
* Quake (not a fan of the PC version but I heard the Saturn one is awesome)
* some sort of 3-pack that features Virtua Cop, Virtua Fighter 2 and (I think) Daytona USA
* In the Hunt
* Creature Shock

And I'm sure there were more. The 3-pack is $20 but the others are all $10

Also, they have one import Saturn game, Street Fighter: Real Battle on Film (kind of a strange title, innit? I mean, I mean, it's actually a Fake Battle on Optical Disk). This is the Japanese version of SF The Movie The Game. Store wants $25 for this. It looks sealed, but I think its a re-seal.

Also any other Saturn games I should keep an eye out for in particular?

[IHatedSega]

The top Saturn game to always look out for is Radiant Silvergun, but its expensive as hell. Also the ones released in America would be the Nights and Panzer Dragoon games. And Princess Crown is a beautiful 2D side scrolling game that was never imported. The no 2D policy the president of Sega America had really messed up the Saturn here I think.

Stay away from the Street Fighter game, its only note worthy for a music video at the end that has most of the cast from the movie in it walking around as the band plays, cant find it on youtube though. Terrible looking game otherwise.

For variety Id go with the 3 in 1 pack, and if I were to buy another itd be Quake.

The Saturn has a ton of awesome arcade shooter game ports. It doesnt have a great RPG library, because of the President of Sega America again, if he had stayed at Sony Final Fantasy 7 wouldnt be the way we know it and probably wouldnt have made the RPG genre explode in America. Mainly the best games are the 2D games that stayed in Japan.
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega/saturn/sega-saturn-shmups-2d-shooters

And heres another link of great other kinds of games for the saturn http://www.racketboy.com/retro/games-that-defined-sega-saturn

[mailman187666]

I'd go with Alien Trilogy and In the Hunt (actually if it were me, I'd buy em all cuz i collect saturn but already have those ones).

Alien Trilogy is a pretty decent FPS for its time. The environments can get a bit stale but its still fun. In the Hunt is a side scrolling shooter where you are in a submarine. Its fun but hard. The games in the triple pack are always the easiest to find when there are saturn games available at stores and you could those 3 for less than $20. I'd say go with Quake too, but if you didn't like it on PC, you may not on Saturn either. I would have picked up Creature Shock because its one that I don't have yet.

[wiggyx]

I remember working used retail in the 90's and we literally couldn't give away those 3-pack bundles LOL!

I'd go with the 3-pack and In the Hunt to start with :)

[Baloo]

Pick up the 3-pack, forget the rest. Buy these titles:

Rayman
World Series Baseball '98
Astal
Minnesota Fats: Pool Legend
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon II: Zwei
NiGHTS into Dreams...
Worldwide Championship Soccer '98
Winter Heat
Virtual On
Virtua Fighter 2
Fighters Megamix
Sega Rally Championship Edition
Darius Gaiden
NBA Jam T.E.
Galactic Attack
Daytona USA

[SaturnHST]

In The Hunt for $10 is a steal. Go for that one. I usually see it for around $30.

That 3 pack is too expensive. I recently got a few of them factory sealed for $5 each.

[IHatedSega]

Virtua Fighter 2 is $13 without the box but with manual at the store near me. :/ The first one is $10 complete. And $5 for that bootleg sampler disk that came with it. All the other demo disks they have are $1.

[TimTendo]

That's a little odd that the store wants 20 dollars for the 3 Free Games pack, seeing as the games on their own and in the complete bundle are usually very cheap (about a dollar or two for each game and a couple more for the whole pack). I even got mine free when I bought my Sega Saturn about a year ago, heh!

The Saturn version of Quake isn't entirely different from the PC version, and the only major difference is the engine that is used, which is the Slavedriver engine that was also used in the Duke Nukem 3D port for the Saturn. It also had a handful of extra levels, but I'm not completely sure on that one. Otherwise, it's mostly the same game.

All in all, I'd recommend purchasing In The Hunt and maybe Alien Trilogy, seeing as the Quake port is mostly the same as the PC version and you can definitely find the 3 Free Games pack at a much cheaper price. Hope you find some more Saturn classics!

[Words iManifest]

Buy an Action Replay cart and buy Space Harrier, the best version IMO and can be gotten usually pretty cheap and Soukyugurentai Otokuyo if you like shooters. Kinda climbing in price but nowhere near the Radiant Silvergun or Hyper Duel prices and far more fun, at least to me...In the Hunt and Alien Trilogy for sure to answer your original question, Do know that In the Hunt is a lot of fun but suffers from some massive slowdown on most levels, though it's welcome to aid some of the more intense shoot-outs, lol.

[Wraith Storm]

So, a local store has the following Saturn games that have piqued my interest:

* Alien Trilogy
* Quake (not a fan of the PC version but I heard the Saturn one is awesome)
* some sort of 3-pack that features Virtua Cop, Virtua Fighter 2 and (I think) Daytona USA
* In the Hunt
* Creature Shock

Alien Trilogy was a really fun, well made FPS. It does start to look "samey" after a while, though, so don't expect a lot of variety in the environments.

I'm not sure if you would like Quake if you already didn't care for the PC version. However, the game is was coded by Lobotomy (Powerslave, Duke Nukem) and it has their classic touch. You can tell they had a passion for what they were doing, going beyond what was required. It's very well coded, has TONS of extras and secrets packed into the game. The hidden in game Dank and Skuzz comic was hilarious, some of the exclusive secret stages are pretty wild, and there are many cheats and secret codes. The game plays best with the 3D controller though. I personally dont recommend getting it unless you have the Analog pad.

As some have already stated the 3-pack is awesome. All three games are must have titles for the Saturn, but you can find those games for MUCH less than 20 bucks. So I would skip it for that price.

In the hunt is great. Its very similar to Metal Slug... With a submarine. The Saturn port was a tad sloppy and resulted in some areas having needless slowdown. Though nothing terrible, I felt it should be mentioned as some people have issues with it. I'm not one of those people.

Creature Shock was one of the first Saturn games my buddy bought back in the day and we had a lot of fun with it, but in reality it really was a fairly crappy (albeit fun) game. So I would recommend any of the games over this one.

If you don't have the 3D pad I would get Alien Trilogy and In the Hunt. If you do have the 3D pad I would get Quake and In the Hunt. Hope this helps.

[sloan]

Virtua Cop requires light gun, AFAIK, so if you don't have that you are limited to only 2 games playable on the 3-pack.

That may factor into the equation.

[TimTendo]

Virtua Cop requires light gun, AFAIK, so if you don't have that you are limited to only 2 games playable on the 3-pack.

That may factor into the equation.

Actually, Virtua Cop can be played without the light gun, but it might take away from most of the enjoyment of the game, so if you can, I'd recommend purchasing a light gun whenever you can find a less pricey 3-Free Games pack. They are reasonably priced on Amazon, going from about 20-25, and I'm sure you could find it for a cheaper price if you take a look around some other sites or stores! If you do go this route, I'd definitely recommend buying House Of The Dead too if you don't already own it, just make sure you get an imported copy, as an American copy goes for around 70+ dollars nowadays, whereas the Japanese version (like most Saturn games) is notably much cheaper, heh!

[Koa Zo]

So, a local store has the following Saturn games that have piqued my interest:

* Alien Trilogy
* Quake (not a fan of the PC version but I heard the Saturn one is awesome)
* some sort of 3-pack that features Virtua Cop, Virtua Fighter 2 and (I think) Daytona USA
* In the Hunt
* Creature Shock


Get In the Hunt.

[Emperor Megas]

For $10? In the Hunt, DEFINITELY. I don't even have to think about it.

[Edmond Dantes]

Actually I do intend to pick up a Stunner at some point, along with the light gun games. I just played House of the Dead on Nebula and I love it, though I'm given to understand (thanks to the HVGN) that the Saturn port is a notable downgrade. Still, it's either that, or find an actual arcade PCB.

Okay, new question: If I could only buy games or an Action Replay this month, which would be the better investment?

[TimTendo]

Well, unless you already own a few imported titles, the Action Replay on it's own would only let you use cheat codes and save games (although it can only store saves, you can't load them directly from the cartridge to my understanding), which might not be very useful if you don't have many games right now. I'd definitely go for buying some games now and waiting to buy the Action Replay, and then buy yourself a few import games to play. Of course, if you feel it would be a better investment to go ahead and buy the Action Replay so you wouldn't have to later, that's also a viable option for you!

[Edmond Dantes]

I actually do own a pair of imports--Capcom Generation 2 and the other Street Fighter collection (The one that comes with Zero 2 Alpha). But these are all games available on other systems too, so I hadn't gotten around to getting an AR yet. Since I want House of the Dead though...

Okay, so I went to the game store today and picked up Quake, In the Hunt, and Galaxy Fight (I forgot to mention they had this one).

Okay, I actually already have In the Hunt via the Irem Arcade Hits collection, but its nice to have a console port and anyway, if I decide I don't want it I was thinking it might be trade bait. Same for Quake, although the more compact level design seems to have made the game more fun, also it seems like it dropped the awful hard rock soundtrack from the PC in favor of more atmospheric music. I dunno, it might be a keeper. BTW where's the portal for Hard mode?

Nothing is getting me to part with Galaxy Fight though.

I also found out today that the store has the Saturn version of Mortal Kombat II... but its disc-only. Asking price is $10.

[TimTendo]

I actually do own a pair of imports--Capcom Generation 2 and the other Street Fighter collection (The one that comes with Zero 2 Alpha). But these are all games available on other systems too, so I hadn't gotten around to getting an AR yet. Since I want House of the Dead though...

...

I also found out today that the store has the Saturn version of Mortal Kombat II... but its disc-only. Asking price is $10.

If you do buy the AR soon, may I suggest buying Gradius Deluxe Pack? It's a fantastic compilation of two of my favorite shoot-em-ups of all time, but it was only ever released in Japan to my knowledge. Regardless, they were ported wonderfully and it's a nice import to have!

I never understood the decision for Sega using the long-box type cases for it's CD and Saturn games, as they were always prone to breaking and are hard to find nowadays, and as such, it's not too surprising that the game is disc-only. I'm actually in the process of making standard size jewel case variations of the cover art for my American Saturn games since I don't have the original case for any of them, heh!

[j_factor]

In the Hunt is better on Playstation. I'd go for Alien Trilogy. Quake is great, but if you already don't like it on PC, you're probably not going to change your mind. The 3 pack is nice, but it's not worth $20. Creature Shock is just okay, I had fun with it but it's hard to recommend it. I do like Galaxy Fight, it's not top-tier but it is unique.

Don't bother with Mortal Kombat II. It's not a good port.

[Gameguy]

Value wise In the Hunt for the Saturn is worth about $30 or more if it's in excellent condition, I have it on PS1 but I still haven't played it so I can't comment on how good it is. It's supposedly Metal Slug with a submarine. The 3-pack isn't worth the asking price, I've passed on copies of this for under $10.

I'm sure there are other threads on Saturn games if you wanted to know which ones to keep an eye out for.

[Edmond Dantes]

Don't bother with Mortal Kombat II. It's not a good port.

Really? I had heard it's practically arcade-perfect?

re: In General

I think I'm gonna get that AR now, then later on go for House of the Dead and DBZ Shin Butoden (is this as good as the Super Butoden games on the Super Famicom, or the one DBZ game on the Mega Drive? It can't be as terrible as the PS1's Ultimate Battle 22...)

Until then, I'm mostly interested in arcade shooters, platformers, fighters and the RPGs (though I'm guessing all the RPGs are rare/expensive)

By the way, how does Double Switch for Saturn compare to Double Switch for Sega CD?

[FrankSerpico]

The 32X port of MK2 is superior to the Saturn one. I'm pretty sure the Saturn was capable of displaying as many, if not more, colors than the 32X which is why it's kind of weird that the 32X version has way more vibrant, colorful graphics. The Saturn MK2 port was really just a sub-par rush job to try and satiate gamers who were pissed that Sony had a six month exclusivity deal on 32-bit MK3

[kupomogli]

DBZ Shin Butoden (is this as good as the Super Butoden games on the Super Famicom, or the one DBZ game on the Mega Drive? It can't be as terrible as the PS1's Ultimate Battle 22...)

It's pretty much exactly the same as the SNES games but better graphics. Not sure why you like the Botuden games but don't like Ultimate Battle 22, they're all equally as bad. I think Ultimate Battle 22 is slightly better than the Botuden games.

[SparTonberry]

Value wise In the Hunt for the Saturn is worth about $30 or more if it's in excellent condition, I have it on PS1 but I still haven't played it so I can't comment on how good it is. It's supposedly Metal Slug with a submarine. The 3-pack isn't worth the asking price, I've passed on copies of this for under $10.

I'm sure there are other threads on Saturn games if you wanted to know which ones to keep an eye out for.

In the Hunt is a side-view shooter, ported from an arcade game. Yes, you play as a sub. You have both underwater targets to shoot, as well you need to rise to the surface to shoot air targets.
I remember the arcade game had pretty nice graphics for a 1993 game, don't know how well they stood up by the time of the Saturn port.

[Edmond Dantes]

It's pretty much exactly the same as the SNES games but better graphics. Not sure why you like the Botuden games but don't like Ultimate Battle 22, they're all equally as bad. I think Ultimate Battle 22 is slightly better than the Botuden games.

Really?

First time I played UB22, I did both the Kamehameha and the Genki Dama... and they both have the SAME graphic, which is a boring orange ball that just flies out. In Super Butoden, the Kamehameha LOOKS LIKE the Kamehameha, not just some lame cheesy we-did-the-pixel-art-in-five-seconds-in-MS-Paint graphic.

I also found the game slow, sluggish and kind of awkward, and really missed how in Super Butoden you could fly MILES away and the game would go split-screen.

Super Butoden isn't a great fighter, but it is good for fans of DBZ like myself who want a game that really make you feel like you're fighting a DBZ battle. Ultimate Battle 22 just doesn't have the right presentation. It feels like it was made by some Chinese hacker.

[kupomogli]

Really?

First time I played UB22, I did both the Kamehameha and the Genki Dama... and they both have the SAME graphic, which is a boring orange ball that just flies out. In Super Butoden, the Kamehameha LOOKS LIKE the Kamehameha, not just some lame cheesy we-did-the-pixel-art-in-five-seconds-in-MS-Paint graphic.

I also found the game slow, sluggish and kind of awkward, and really missed how in Super Butoden you could fly MILES away and the game would go split-screen.

Super Butoden isn't a great fighter, but it is good for fans of DBZ like myself who want a game that really make you feel like you're fighting a DBZ battle. Ultimate Battle 22 just doesn't have the right presentation. It feels like it was made by some Chinese hacker.

Aside from the graphics, holding L or R to go to the other end of the map, and being able to do beam struggles, the way the games played was the same. The only reason I like Ultimate Battle 22 more, and again it's very slightly, is because build up mode. You go through playing harder enemies while doing your own attacks. Depending on the attacks you use though is what will get more powerful. So yeah. Not really a fan of the games themselves because they pretty much sucked, but build up mode was a feature I liked.

[Edmond Dantes]

Aside from the graphics, holding L or R to go to the other end of the map, and being able to do beam struggles, the way the games played was the same.

I don't mean to sound incredibly snarky, but to me this reads like "if you ignore UB22 not having any of the things that were awesome in Super Butoden, it's practically the same!"

I think we better get back to talking about Saturn before we Genki-dama each other.

So, are House of the Dead and the Virtua Cop games the only light gun games on Saturn?

[Breetai]

Pick up the 3-pack, forget the rest. Buy these titles:

Rayman
World Series Baseball '98
Astal
Minnesota Fats: Pool Legend
Panzer Dragoon
Panzer Dragoon II: Zwei
NiGHTS into Dreams...
Worldwide Championship Soccer '98
Winter Heat
Virtual On
Virtua Fighter 2
Fighters Megamix
Sega Rally Championship Edition
Darius Gaiden
NBA Jam T.E.
Galactic Attack
Daytona USA
I'm surprised at you. Why on earth would you not recommend In the Hunt? It's pretty much Metal Slug with submarines. It's just awesome, aside from a bit of slow-down.

[xelement5x]

So, are House of the Dead and the Virtua Cop games the only light gun games on Saturn?

There's also Corpse Killer: Graveyard Edition at least.

[j_factor]

By the way, how does Double Switch for Saturn compare to Double Switch for Sega CD?

Same game, just much much better quality video on Saturn.

[Edmond Dantes]

Just for reference, as of now I already own the following:

US Releases:

* D (need a new second disk)
* Galactic Attack
* Galaxy Fight
* In the Hunt
* Mansion of Hidden Souls
* NiGHTS Into Dreams
* Quake

JPN Releases:

* Capcom Generation 2 - Chronicles of Arthur
* Street Fighter Collection (the one that comes with Super, Super Turbo, and Alpha 2 Gold)

I've been considering picking up Virtua Fighter 1 and 2, but 3D fighters aren't my thing--they just don't make any sense to me, but I can adapt to just about any 2D fighter.

[j_factor]

So, are House of the Dead and the Virtua Cop games the only light gun games on Saturn?

There is also Corpse Killer, Crypt Killer, Area 51, Maximum Force, Mighty Hits (Europe only), Die Hard Trilogy (1/3 of it), Scud (half of it), and Death Crimson (Japan only).

[gameofyou]

I've been considering picking up Virtua Fighter 1 and 2, but 3D fighters aren't my thing--they just don't make any sense to me, but I can adapt to just about any 2D fighter.

VF2 is definitely worth picking up, it is a technical marvel. Also it is quite fun, and is very inexpensive.

[Wraith Storm]

VF2 is definitely worth picking up, it is a technical marvel. Also it is quite fun, and is very inexpensive.

I approve this message!

Its among the best fighting games ever made imo and has one of the greatest soundtracks as well.

Don't worry about it being a 3d fighter. It might be polygonal, but esentially plays out on a 2d plane.

[Edmond Dantes]

Good news! My Action Replay 4M Plus came in today!

Just tested Capcom Gen 2 on it... umm... is it normal for Makaimura and Chou Makaimura to have black bars on the side of the screen? (I assume its because of the Saturn's display resolution? It doesn't really hurt the game in any case... honestly I almost like it)

Also, love SF Alpha 2 Gold, and now I need to mod an arcade stick for it...

[Edmond Dantes]

Bumping for NEW QUESTION.

The local store has:

* Bust a Move 2
* Clockwork Knight
* Bug, and Bug Too
* Sonic 3D Blast (missing manual and I think the case was broken)

Should I pick up any of these?

Also he got some import Saturn games, but all of them were incomplete--some were just the game and manual in a replacement case. IIRC, one of them was Grandia. I'll write down the names/take pictures of the others next time I'm there. One of them seemed to be some sort of minigame collection.

Also, my copy of In The Hunt seems to... work only when it wants to. Could this possibly be related to that the previous owner wrote his name (in marker) on the front of the disc? If so, is there a way to erase it without damaging the disc? (by the way, if "G. Biz" happens to be reading this, its his copy of In The Hunt that I own)

Finally... I'm actually liking Quake. Especially the replacement hidden levels. Hell's Aerie is a lot more fun than the drab Underearth of the original.

[Emperor Megas]

Bumping for NEW QUESTION.

The local store has:

* Bust a Move 2
* Clockwork Knight
* Bug, and Bug Too
* Sonic 3D Blast (missing manual and I think the case was broken)

Should I pick up any of these?

Also he got some import Saturn games, but all of them were incomplete--some were just the game and manual in a replacement case. IIRC, one of them was Grandia. I'll write down the names/take pictures of the others next time I'm there. One of them seemed to be some sort of minigame collection.

Also, my copy of In The Hunt seems to... work only when it wants to. Could this possibly be related to that the previous owner wrote his name (in marker) on the front of the disc? If so, is there a way to erase it without damaging the disc? (by the way, if "G. Biz" happens to be reading this, its his copy of In The Hunt that I own)

Finally... I'm actually liking Quake. Especially the replacement hidden levels. Hell's Aerie is a lot more fun than the drab Underearth of the original.I don't know enough to care about Sonic 3D Blast, but I LOVE Bust-A-Move 2 Arcade Edition for Saturn, You should definitely grab that game, IMO; especially now, since it has seasonal content. The intro changes to a Christmas and New Years theme when the Saturn's internal clock is set to December and January. I just get a kick from games that do that sort of thing

I'm also a Bug fan, but Clockwork Knight never really did much for me. I'd get them all for cheap, but Bust-A-Move 2 is my top pick of that lot.

[j_factor]

Bumping for NEW QUESTION.

The local store has:

* Bust a Move 2
* Clockwork Knight
* Bug, and Bug Too
* Sonic 3D Blast (missing manual and I think the case was broken)

Should I pick up any of these?

All of these are worth playing, but I'd hold out for a complete copy of Sonic 3D. It's one of the most common Saturn games.

[otaku]

I'd take the three pack myself but I love virtua fighter and daytona racing!

[SaturnHST]

In The Hunt has some defective copies floating around. You have to boot it up a certain way for it to work. I had one copy that didn't work at all and two other ones that are finicky.

There's a thread on different ways you can try to boot it up:

http://www.satakore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=95

[Edmond Dantes]

That's what my copy is like... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, doesn't seem to matter what you do with it though I find usually it won't work the first time, but will if you hit reset.

INCIDENTALLY...

I'm actively on the lookout for the Saturn version of Arcade Gears: Image Fight and X-Multiply Although if its not much different from the PSOne version I might not bother. But I love me some X-Multiply...

[Edmond Dantes]

Got Virtua Fighter 2 yesterday.

Sadly, I don't like it. The thing I don't like about 3D fighters is the "realistic" fighting styles and how each technique has to be done with frame-perfect timing or it just doesn't work, even though the actual inputs are pretty easy. In a 2D fighter, doing a quarter-circle forward + punch gets you a fireball, all the time, every time. In a 3D fighter, X and Circle may cause Jun Kazama to do a twirling kick, or it may cause her to do a normal kick, all depending on if you did it in JUST the way the ultra-picky game wants.

I'm honestly thinking of offering VF2 (it's the standalone release, not from the 3-pack) up for trade.

[c2000]

Try Fighting Vipers instead :)

[xelement5x]

There's also Corpse Killer: Graveyard Edition at least.


There is also Corpse Killer, Crypt Killer, Area 51, Maximum Force, Mighty Hits (Europe only), Die Hard Trilogy (1/3 of it), Scud (half of it), and Death Crimson (Japan only).


So, I tried this today because I had my stunner out and apparently Corpse Killer doesn't work with a light gun! And it wasn't my light gun, I tested it with Vitrua Cop right after that to make sure.

I dunno, I'm kind of amazed that this port was so shoddily done, even the Sega CD/32X versions support the Menacer or Justifer I believe. It's a cheesy game anyway, so I doubt anyone's life would be that improved by playing it. 90s hair, blatant stereotypes and goofy acting do make it fun with a group though ;)

[grolt]

Got Virtua Fighter 2 yesterday.

Sadly, I don't like it. The thing I don't like about 3D fighters is the "realistic" fighting styles and how each technique has to be done with frame-perfect timing or it just doesn't work, even though the actual inputs are pretty easy. In a 2D fighter, doing a quarter-circle forward + punch gets you a fireball, all the time, every time. In a 3D fighter, X and Circle may cause Jun Kazama to do a twirling kick, or it may cause her to do a normal kick, all depending on if you did it in JUST the way the ultra-picky game wants.

I'm honestly thinking of offering VF2 (it's the standalone release, not from the 3-pack) up for trade.

Virtua Fighter games never really leave the best first impression, but the battle systems are so deep and the button recognition is so precise that it really does reward multiple plays. I'm far from a hardcore fighting game player, but over the years I've come to really love the intricacy and natural feel of the VF games. Picking it up and playing it today, it almost seems like an extension of the body rather than inputting buttons. Pick a fighter, read up on his/her moves and have fun mastering. I can beat the game now doing a handstand the full time as Shun Di. Pretty funny. You may find the recognition ultra-picky now, but if you take some time with it I think you'll change your mind in that regard.

Between Fighting Vipers, Fighter's Megamix, Virtua Fighter Kids, Last Bronx, Golden Axe: The Duel, Street Fighter Collection and Critcom, there are still plenty of excellent fighters out there on the system to chose from if VF2 doesn't find your fancy.

[j_factor]

Between Fighting Vipers, Fighter's Megamix, Virtua Fighter Kids, Last Bronx, Golden Axe: The Duel, Street Fighter Collection and Critcom, there are still plenty of excellent fighters out there on the system to chose from if VF2 doesn't find your fancy.

You're joking, right?

[grolt]

You're joking, right?

Hey, I've had some fun with it. I could have said Street Fighter: The Movie. :)

[FrankSerpico]

SF: The Movie isn't even that bad gameplay-wise. It's really the awful MK-style graphics that drag it down, although Kylie Minogue as Cammy ain't bad

[retroguy]

If you're a fan of platformers (I am), Clockwork Knight and Bug are both excellent. Haven't played Bug 2, but if it's like the first one, it should be good too.

[grolt]

If you're a fan of platformers (I am), Clockwork Knight and Bug are both excellent. Haven't played Bug 2, but if it's like the first one, it should be good too.

Bug Too! tries to expand on the first one by offering three different controllable characters and levels that have more open 3D space, but personally I prefer the simplicity and the smaller, but more branching, paths of the first game. Both are good fun though, and kind of unheralded when it comes to platformers.