Neo X shipping [Archive] - Retrogaming Roundtable

Bojay1997

12-17-2012, 05:25 PM

What is going on with this? Some have theirs already, some have shipped and some have no word on shipping.

It's scheduled for release tomorrow. Only Walmart, Amazon and BestSku have shipped and only to some preorders. Best Buy and other retailers will likely ship starting tomorrow as people are reporting that charges are appearing on their credit cards and their order status is moving to preparing for shipment. It's not a regular stock item and it's on-line only (except for Gamestop and they will not be stocking it in stores other than to fulfill preorders), so it will take a day or two to get it back out the door once retailers receive them at their distribution facilities.

BricatSegaFan

12-17-2012, 06:17 PM

What is going on with this? Some have theirs already, some have shipped and some have no word on shipping.

Mine is showing up tomorrow via ups. I got mine from Target.com

c0ldb33r

12-18-2012, 08:45 PM

Ours was available at eb today.

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-18-2012, 09:08 PM

Checked out some early impression videos/previews on YouTube.

Gotta say, I'm impressed with the replica USB joystick (which I assume will function fine on a PC as a human interface device) and the "dock". While it's mostly just a plastic shell with some USB pass-throughs it's practically the same size as a real Neo-Geo home console.

Wildly impractical that dock is, but charming as fuck.

kedawa

12-18-2012, 10:19 PM

USB stick works for PC and PS3. Joystick registers as POV hat in Windows.

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-18-2012, 10:23 PM

USB stick works for PC and PS3. Joystick registers as POV hat in Windows.

That's a sweet deal for people who got that set then.

The device itself looks bigger and higher end than most Dingoo-priced China clones too.

Here's hoping that the emulation is up to snuff for the Neo-Geo fanatics!

Anybody here get theirs and give it a go yet?

retroman

12-18-2012, 10:31 PM

I dont think anyone has one yet since it dont come out till Feb. 2, 2013. Source Gamestop that I called to see if they had it in yet.

RCM

12-18-2012, 10:36 PM

The Engadget piece makes it look way cooler than I expected. I didn't realize it was so big, either. If the limited edition ever hits sub-$100 prices I'd consider picking it up, but I'm not a big enough Neo head to justify the purchase at this point.

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-18-2012, 10:41 PM

Mine is showing up tomorrow via ups. I got mine from Target.com

Ours was available at eb today.

I dont think anyone has one yet since it dont come out till Feb. 2, 2013. Source Gamestop that I called to see if they had it in yet.

I'm confused then, am I misreading the quotes above yours?

BricatSegaFan

12-18-2012, 10:45 PM

I'm confused then, am I misreading the quotes above yours?

Mine arrived today so gamestop can eat their wrong info

IHatedSega

12-19-2012, 05:36 AM

USB stick works for PC and PS3. Joystick registers as POV hat in Windows.

Fuck yeah! Gonna buy this definitely!

c0ldb33r

12-19-2012, 08:34 AM

I'm confused then, am I misreading the quotes above yours?
Mine is in our house still in box. Can't play with it until Christmas :)

In Canada you can only get it through eb games. Apparently I was the only person in our city to preorder it. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or just means that I'm a sucker.

I'm gonna stop at eb today and see if they sell the joysticks separately.

IHatedSega

12-19-2012, 08:42 AM

I'm gonna stop at eb today and see if they sell the joysticks separately.

If the store is selling the console they should be, can you see though if theyre selling Ninja Masters separately too, though?

Ah shoot, I havent found any place online for how much the controller is separate if it is sold separately, I think it is though, it should be.

Tanooki

12-19-2012, 09:52 AM

Because it's a private seller via amazon being greedy.

ScourDX

12-19-2012, 09:57 AM

I look at ebay pricing and wow...it is gone above $200 mark.

link (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=neogeo+x&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

Bojay1997

12-19-2012, 12:38 PM

If the store is selling the console they should be, can you see though if theyre selling Ninja Masters separately too, though?

Uhhhh, why is it $237 on amazon?

http://www.amazon.com/NEOGEO-GOLD-Limited-Edition-Electronic-Games/dp/B0093G9VOI

Ah shoot, I havent found any place online for how much the controller is separate if it is sold separately, I think it is though, it should be.

I can't speak for Canada, but here in the US, no major retailers are carrying either the system, sticks or game at retail. Each GS only received exactly what was preordered and they have no plans to carry them as a regular stock item. You can, however, still order sticks from BestSku, Target, Toys R Us and a few on-line retailers.

IHatedSega

12-19-2012, 02:10 PM

Ok, thank you guys. :) Ah, shoot, I fell for it, I should have remembered to see if the SUper Saver SHipping was available right there. It is a private seller. Sorry for my mistake.

BricatSegaFan

12-19-2012, 02:30 PM

If the store is selling the console they should be, can you see though if theyre selling Ninja Masters separately too, though?

Ah shoot, I havent found any place online for how much the controller is separate if it is sold separately, I think it is though, it should be.

Again check target.com

It lists it for $50

Bojay1997

12-19-2012, 02:42 PM

There seem to be many complaints popping up on Neo-Geo.com about the quality of the video output from the dock. It does seem to vary by television though. The handheld and stick are getting good reviews so far, although there is no save or high score function once you shut off the game and the games are censored with no blood other than SS2 if you use the old AES trick to activate it. I think this is something to grab once it hits $100 or less.

BricatSegaFan

12-19-2012, 03:07 PM

Bojay1997

12-19-2012, 03:22 PM

Couldn't you use composite cables? Or does this issue only happen via hdmi?

Apparently the composite output is even worse. People are reporting screen tearing, spots, interference, etc...I wonder if they packed in really cheap cables and that's the culprit? The HDMI cables they included are mini plug on the system end, so people don't exactly have known good ones lying around the house to test them with.

BricatSegaFan

12-19-2012, 03:57 PM

Apparently the composite output is even worse. People are reporting screen tearing, spots, interference, etc...I wonder if they packed in really cheap cables and that's the culprit? The HDMI cables they included are mini plug on the system end, so people don't exactly have known good ones lying around the house to test them with.

Well I have a slew of connectors ill try. I got mine in but I'm waiting till Christmas to open it :)

Tanooki

12-19-2012, 04:07 PM

Hmm it could be a bad wire, but it may also be whatever software they have doing the conversion/output over the HDMI too. A third option would be the known fact that modern LCD/LED TVs usually make 480p and back stuff look like crap on some sets, lags on some too, and others it runs nice and sharp and without lag. It sounds like another case of the mileage varies.

I have an LED TV I won't run old games on because it lags them enough to be a problem in a SMB type environment and it blurs the image like some crappy bilinear filtering. The 5yrs old LCD TV though has no lag and the image is nice and crisp. (Old is a Panasonic Viera 26", new is a Samsung 46")

kaedesdisciple

12-19-2012, 04:09 PM

Leo_A

12-19-2012, 04:36 PM

Not so sure I'm ready to give up my CMVS for this, but does anyone know if the stick is compatible with any other systems? Looks pretty close to the original I would just like to know about the quality and compatibility before dropping $50 on one.

Someone already covered that.

USB stick works for PC and PS3. Joystick registers as POV hat in Windows.

kedawa

12-21-2012, 02:18 AM

A friend surprised me with one of these as a gift, and we played with it for a good couple of hours.
The composite is indeed dark, but it looks fine on my 1084S with the contrast cranked and the brightness a little over medium. The signal has some interference, but I think it may just be a result of the very thin AV cables that come with it. The games have some minor tearing, and strobe effects(like flicker shadows) are uneven, as they are in most emulators. I don't have any displays that accept HDMI, but my friend does, so we'll see how it looks on his TV.
The audio seems fine to me.

The dpad on the handheld feels a bit weird. Mine sticks a little when pressed right, and the click sound of the left and right microswitches are totally different. Hopefully this will sort itself out as it gets worked in. The button layout isn't great for some games, like KoF and Fatal Fury Special, because it's totally different from what I'm used to on other consoles that also have a diamond button layouts.
The joystick is decent. It takes some getting use to, and it's very light, but I was able to pull off special moves in KoF 95 without too much difficulty.

It's a shame all of the games are AES versions, but I guess it makes sense. I'm just used to playing these games with unlimited credits.

I'm a little confused by the charging instructions. It says the dock must be turned on to charge it, but it seems silly that you wouldn't be able to charge it without having it on.

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-23-2012, 01:58 PM

Aaaaaaand, it's hacked.

http://kotaku.com/5970850/well-that-was-quick-the-new-neo-geo-has-been-hacked

c0ldb33r

12-23-2012, 05:07 PM

I knew it would happen but that was faster than expected.

I think that's great. Lets see what people can do with it.

LimitedEditionMuseum

12-23-2012, 05:43 PM

Bojay1997

12-23-2012, 06:54 PM

I have stopped reading peoples reviews of this. I am so tired of people thinking This is an AES replacement. Comparing a $200 unit to basically a real arcade system. It's amazing that some people want EVERYTHING!

The problem with your theory is that this is a video game console and so it's inevitable that people will compare it to other similarly priced products including superguns with MVS capability, MAME or Coinops 5 capable Xbox systems or even full MVS arcade cabinets which can be purchased used for a few hundred dollars. Both the 360 and the PS3 were available in bundles this holiday season for $200. So, I don't think there's anything wrong with expecting the system to be worth the $200 (really $250+ if you want a second stick) and comparing it to other similar products. You can choose to ignore the truth, but there are some serious problems with the console dock video and audio output. Similarly, the screen on the handheld is not up to current standards (i.e. Vita or 3DS). Hackers have torn it down and discovered that internally the handlheld is basically a Dingoo. They sell for about $100 or so. As such, the badly working dock and joystick and 20 roms are roughly $100. Is that worth it? Maybe, but I don't think it is expecting too much for the video output on the dock to be decent or the audio to play at a reasonable level. Maybe that is asking for "everything", but I think that's really just expecting the minimum.

StealthLurker

12-23-2012, 07:13 PM

Just FYI, the video output issues are not due to the dock. I tested using the tv-out directly on the handheld and used the handheld as the controller. The video output quality was the same vs. the dock. I also tried another 3.5mm audio/video cable of higher quality and the results are the same.

NeoGeo Dev Team (makers of Last Hope, Fast Striker, Gunlord, XYX) believe the issue is software based:

Originally Posted by NG:DEV.TEAM View Post
It's mostly if not all software.

I see 3 main problems.

1. A wrong video resolution is used
The NEOGEO uses 320x224, but the NGX scales it to 320x240 and upscales it to 640x480 for HDMI.

Scaling 224px to 240px is a bad idea.
This also results in a 2nd problem that if you apply scanlines with a videoprocessor those are off.

Solution: don't scale to 240, just add 8px borders at top and bottom. Then scale pixel perfect to 640x480

2. The NEOGEO uses an odd video refresh rate 59.18hz, but HDMI requires 59.94hz

This results in tearing, no vertical sync possible.

Solution: speed up the emulation to 59.94Hz/60hz.

3. Sound lag.

Solution: Unknown. Probably just a bug, maybe hardware problems too?

Note that is has also been discovered that there are emulators for many other consoles right inside the internal SD card! Including a PS1 emulator with PS1 bios!

Overall I'm pleased with the system, especially the joysticks. If anything, pick up a stick. Compared it with my original AES sticks, PS2 Neo sticks and PS3 Neo sticks. Love the textured surface. However I do like the larger balltop of the PS3 version.

No it's not going to replace my NeoGeo candy cabs, AES units, CDs, ports, etc. If you can only have one Neo setup, this is not the one to go with... but for a collector that's been there done that and is looking for something unique and different this is definitely a cool package.

Also did some tests with the PS3 NeoCD pad (doesn't work) and PS3 Neo stick (works perfectly).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d32.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d33.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d31.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d30.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d34.jpg

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LimitedEditionMuseum

12-23-2012, 07:22 PM

LimitedEditionMuseum

12-23-2012, 07:33 PM

Just FYI, the video output issues are not due to the dock. I tested using the tv-out directly on the handheld and used the handheld as the controller. The video output quality was the same vs. the dock. I also tried another 3.5mm audio/video cable of higher quality and the results are the same.

NeoGeo Dev Team (makers of Last Hope, Fast Striker, Gunlord, XYX) believe the issue is software based:

Note that is has also been discovered that there are emulators for many other consoles right inside the internal SD card! Including a PS1 emulator with PS1 bios!

Overall I'm pleased with the system, especially the joysticks. If anything, pick up a stick. Compared it with my original AES sticks, PS2 Neo sticks and PS3 Neo sticks. Love the textured surface. However I do like the larger balltop of the PS3 version.

No it's not going to replace my NeoGeo candy cabs, AES units, CDs, ports, etc. If you can only have one Neo setup, this is not the one to go with... but for a collector that's been there done that and is looking for something unique and different this is definitely a cool package.

Also did some tests with the PS3 NeoCD pad (doesn't work) and PS3 Neo stick (works perfectly).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d32.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d33.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d31.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d30.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/jviloria/AAA_0_Dec2012/d34.jpg

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I love this reply. You said it! All it is is just a cool item to have for a neo lover. It isn't a sub for anything. It's like a dicast collectible car....of your favorite car.

Bojay1997

12-23-2012, 07:45 PM

Comparison to like items I don't have a problem with. I'm talking about the people on neogeo.com comparing the image, sticks and sound to AES and MVS. People were complaining before it came out, and these same people still bought it. These people who know every aspect of every part of a NG....why did they buy it, just to btch!!?? These people knew what it was before it came out! If lobster is your favorite food, would you buy that lobster at a gas station for the same price as a fine dining establishment then complain about it?

In fairness though, the technology inside the original Neo Geo AES and MVS is over 20 years old at this point. It was ahead of its time, but emulation and technology has come a long way and when you can buy a used Xbox 1 and install Coinops 5 on it and have perfectly emulated Neo Geo and other arcade roms running on it for under $50, it's kind of a hard sell when this $200+ piece of technology can't even output video or audio well.
I agree with your other comments about this being like a diecast car or a tribute to the original. I just don't think $200 is reasonable for a "tribute". Knock the price down to $100 and I think it's within the realm of reason.

StealthLurker

12-23-2012, 08:12 PM

In fairness though, the technology inside the original Neo Geo AES and MVS is over 20 years old at this point. It was ahead of its time, but emulation and technology has come a long way and when you can buy a used Xbox 1 and install Coinops 5 on it and have perfectly emulated Neo Geo and other arcade roms running on it for under $50, it's kind of a hard sell when this $200+ piece of technology can't even output video or audio well.
I agree with your other comments about this being like a diecast car or a tribute to the original. I just don't think $200 is reasonable for a "tribute". Knock the price down to $100 and I think it's within the realm of reason.

This is just my opinion, so no disrespect Bojay... but I do not agree that something with all these pieces and packaging can be sold for 100-140 and still make a profit. Where I work we design hardware "boxes" and even taking into account that the internals are mostly "off the shelf parts", other costs to create the molds for the handheld & base unit, packaging, licensing costs, etc etc etc.... they can't really drive down costs significantly unless they commission building in the millions of units like Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, etc. They might have made "a lot", but no where near the bulk numbers to lower price enough.

Well anyways, the handheld will be sold next year for something like 130 or so...

I think everyone is for a lack of a better term, "spoiled" with their cheap dingoos, basically free to add emu functionality to a PSP/DS/etc, blaze sega handhelds, etc... so their frame of reference/anchor for pricing is fixed to that relative price point. Even though the core functionality of a Dingoo vs. the NGX is essentially the same, there are enough little touches/deltas on the NGX that affect cost. Whether these added touches matter to you or not... whatever. However I've seen enough collectors out there that pick up every color variation of a gameboy, n64, etc etc... and there are some hardcore NeoGeo fans (like myself haha) that are willing to plunk down the cash to make this a viable product. Prior to the drop date, most major retailers offering this product were sold out. I order an additional 2 pairs of stick from Toys R Us to bring my stick total to 6, but that pair got cancelled.

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Tanooki

12-23-2012, 08:51 PM

Well said Lurker, it's all just bitching for bitching sake really. NO one is making someone buy this, and you know what you got going into it. The convenient fact of it also being $130 just for the unit in February seems to be ignored because it's easier to piss and whine about a $200 ghetto MVS. Perhaps it is spoled brat mentality getting in the way. I for one have zero interest in all that bs. I do want the handheld though and for $130 I think given what I did know, it was worth it.

Now that I know it got hacked like in 24hours, exposed much to be a dingoo, and that it can run far more stuff by renaming stupid files at this point (and I"m sure with more hacking it'll be made even more cut and dry) it would be fairly well dumbassed to ignore the thing. I saw what the main CPU was on this thing and it's a faster more cached revision of the same line of chips other pocket emulators use, so it's fairly well equipped. Would I hack it and screw ith PS1 stuff? Nope. Would I want to fire up some more NG games in there say like 8Man, Samurai Shodown 3, Puzzle Bobble, and Neo Turf Masters which I really love...hell yeah!

LimitedEditionMuseum

12-23-2012, 09:12 PM

Bojay1997

12-23-2012, 09:17 PM

Don't forget the cost of packaging, the printed logos and if people hate to admit it, you are paying for the branding. Also, I don't believe all these people who keep throwing out the Dingoo comparison actually even have one.

I'm not following. There are people on Neo-Geo.com who have both and they concluded that the handheld is essentially a Dingoo with a slightly faster processor. Are you saying they are wrong?

LimitedEditionMuseum

12-23-2012, 09:30 PM

No, but that does prove my point. They knew EXACTLY what they were buying, so why complain?

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-24-2012, 03:50 PM

YIKES! They left the PS1 BIOS on the stuff that shipped with the device? That's not good! (Though it's good for people who want to get the thing to run PS1 stuff, one less thing to hunt for online.) :)

IHatedSega

12-24-2012, 05:27 PM

If this thing can run PS1 games somehow, thats freakin awesome. Wonder how it picks up other usb based controllers?

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-24-2012, 05:29 PM

If this thing can run PS1 games somehow, thats freakin awesome. Wonder how it picks up other usb based controllers?

Lots of the China Dingoo-like emulation consoles can do low-end/sprite-based PS1 games that don't have a lot (or any) 3D processing. If this thing has a faster processor than a Dingoo it can probably handle that.

StealthLurker

12-24-2012, 08:23 PM

Lots of the China Dingoo-like emulation consoles can do low-end/sprite-based PS1 games that don't have a lot (or any) 3D processing. If this thing has a faster processor than a Dingoo it can probably handle that.

The processors (CPU and GPU!) in the NGX are 2 levels above the current Dingoo. Actually it's using the same CPU and GPU as the new Dingoo (GCW?) that's currently under development.

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IHatedSega

12-25-2012, 07:31 AM

I wonder if they were planning on releasing Koudelka for it? haha. They should release Crystalis for it though, thatd be cool, give it variety.

kedawa

12-28-2012, 07:40 AM

I'm looking forward to playing CVS Pro on this thing.

BricatSegaFan

12-28-2012, 08:25 AM

I'm looking forward to playing CVS Pro on this thing.

Isn't CVS pro Naomi based? If we got any kind of crossover game it would be SVC Chaos.

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-28-2012, 09:14 AM

Isn't CVS pro Naomi based? If we got any kind of crossover game it would be SVC Chaos.

If it can handle PS1 emulation (and there are signs that that's possible) CVS pro should boot okay. That game doesn't require a lot of resources from PS1 emulators.

BricatSegaFan

12-28-2012, 09:23 AM

If it can handle PS1 emulation (and there are signs that that's possible) CVS pro should boot okay. That game doesn't require a lot of resources from PS1 emulators.

Muffled sound and missing animation? Ehh makes me wish it could do Naomi emulation vs the ps version

kedawa

12-28-2012, 10:20 AM

Well, if it could handle NAOMI, I'd be playing CVS2.

OldSchoolGamer

12-28-2012, 08:20 PM

From the moment I saw mockups it never looked like anything more than a slightly updated Dingoo handheld except locked down to ONLY run NEO GEO emulation, what I had been saying from the beginning, seemed like a cheap cash in to hook the NEO GEO fans and nothing more, sadly suckers are buying into it SIMPLY because it has the SNK NEO GEO name slapped onto it lol!

erehwon

12-28-2012, 08:54 PM

BricatSegaFan

12-28-2012, 09:33 PM

Are the NGX controllers any good? I was at target today and saw three of them marked online item with a price of $12.56. There were also two bundles at $140. I picked one up to maybe use with the computer. I was wondering if it is worth keeping?

I think the controller is good. It's very very close to the original aes controller, which I happen to like quite a bit. I'd say keep it, it works with all kinds of stuff too.

Tanooki

12-29-2012, 01:17 PM

erehwon

12-29-2012, 01:26 PM

Wait Target has a $140 bundle with the NGX? System supposedly is $200 and the sticks I heard were $50 and you're saying far less.

I think I may need to see if the two in the immediate area around here have that weird pricing as I'd pay the added ten than wait until February for the handheld alone.
The bundles and the sticks were marked as online item. I think that means they bought online and returned to that store. I'm not sure if they would be priced like that elsewhere.

I'm trying to decide if I should keep the stick, but for $12 it's hard to resist.

c0ldb33r

12-29-2012, 01:38 PM

For $12 its a great deal. I'm likely going to order another one and I'd be okay paying $50 for it.

Anyone want to sell me one for $40 shipped? :D

Tanooki

12-29-2012, 08:32 PM

From my understanding it's a standard USB joystick and picks up as such on a computer. For that price you'll never do better for an arcade like joystick as such. Just keep it and use it with NeoGeo or other emulators for games that use up to that amount of buttons it has.

Ryudo

12-31-2012, 03:33 AM

The dock and stick are cool. The system looks nifty but still just a bunch of roms on it. I rather invest in a Neo Geo Color

c0ldb33r

01-05-2013, 11:38 AM

Gamevet

01-05-2013, 04:57 PM

The dock and stick are cool. The system looks nifty but still just a bunch of roms on it. I rather invest in a Neo Geo Color

Or just pick up some of the Neo-Geo collections available for the PSP. I picked up the Metal Slug Anthology for $15 last week.

Bojay1997

01-05-2013, 05:06 PM

Someone from TOMMO just posted on Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/15yppk/neogeo_x_team_looking_for_your_feedback/

It sounds pretty positive that they'll release games, accessories and will update to fix some stuff :)

Too little, too late. Even many of the former boosters of this thing on Neo Geo.com have changed their tune.

Ed Oscuro

01-06-2013, 12:07 AM

Ehh, part of the Neo Geo . com userbase can be counted upon to have unrealistic expectations about anything.

I was pretty down on this from the start but it's starting to sound pretty reasonable - good hardware for running emulators and the like for the price - IF they fix a few things in software or somebody hacks it so you can fix them yourself. Mostly little things like getting the aspect ratio right (notice the screen is wide format, which probably helped keep costs down). It all comes down to what you get for the money.

Also, did anybody else hear the emulator is apparently FBA, and there's a PlayStation BIOS image as well?

Suddenly I'm wondering about the joysticks. Good joysticks that aren't real expensive are hard to find. It might not be a bad idea to try modding one of these with better buttons and a new Seimitsu stick.

c0ldb33r

01-06-2013, 10:33 AM

They're really starting to rip the NGX wide open:

Link: http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?239578-NeoGeoX-Hacking-and-Mods/page30

kedawa

01-06-2013, 06:09 PM

You can toggle the aspect ratio at any time with the left shoulder buttons.
I'm really looking forward to a software update, mostly for the possibility of modifying the updater to load my own customizations. I certainly can't be bothered to disassemble the thing right now.

Tanooki

01-06-2013, 07:07 PM

Not a fan of reddit, but thanks for the link as that really puts a face to Tommo a bit and their processes a little. They seem to have a general concern for existing bugs with some of the games and the lack of save as they're talking FIRMWARE updates which is what I want to be seeing as I want the system but not as it stands.

ScourDX

01-23-2013, 08:47 AM

http://kotaku.com/5978233/report-neogeo-xs-production-is-coming-to-an-end

Look like neogeo x production will discontinued. That was fast.

IHatedSega

01-23-2013, 09:01 AM

So no handheld only release coming? Thats it? No more games being released?

This video made me not want it. I may get the stick for super cheap though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=430-iM_kXT0

Mr Mort

01-23-2013, 10:09 PM

So no handheld only release coming? Thats it? No more games being released?

The last sentence on the Kotaku article reads: "It sounds like the NeoGeo X will continue to be supported as there are still plans to release more SNK games for it, as well as a screen protector for the NeoGeo X handheld and an AC adapter."

Not sure what to make of it. Perhaps they're merely discontinuing production of the Limited Edition models? They had planned to release the handheld-only SKU in the future, and I think that's still the case. They're merely discontinuing either the Limited or Gold Edition bundles, or both. That's what I get out of it, anyway.

Tanooki

01-25-2013, 10:24 PM

I read it that way too. For the holidays they wanted to get the SNK fanboy pool for as much cash as they could so they did the whole mocked up system and the joystick recreation too and charged a premium but threw in a 21st special extra game. The Feb SKU, the normal unit which is just the handheld and a usb cable(perhaps with a plug attachment) to charge it is the normal one, maybe it will have a video cable of sorts too like the Sega 'Gopher/Firecore' thing that has been out for years now for $130.

Reddit has this big thing with a Tommo employee talking about more games coming but not allowed to say which, their support, bug testing team, programmers, and asking for any problems people want addressed they'd take to those people to run firmware and hardware updates. I see them seriously still in this game and that the handheld is the intended product as $200 is a bit much for old arcade fanboy service but nearly 1/2 that is more palletable.

Frankie_Says_Relax

04-24-2013, 01:39 PM

They're really starting to rip the NGX wide open:

Link: http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?239578-NeoGeoX-Hacking-and-Mods/page30

After enjoying playing with the "consolized" setup at a NAVA I grabbed a complete Limited Edition Gold set traded in to the DP store a few months ago then spent some time researching how hacked and cracked the device is.

Very much like the Dingoo A-380 early versions of the Gold shipped with the OS on a micro SD on the main board that could be decompiled in linux and you could swap the game images out.

The hardware manufacturers quickly revised that, which is good because I didn't have much interest in cracking the thing open and messing around with potentially system-breaking stuff like that.

Thankfully, there's still that big honkin SD card slot on the side of the system. You'd think that if they put something like that in that it would have some serious security on it.

Interestingly the ONLY security measure that the side SD card/Game Card slot has vs a standard SD card is that the pins are wired in a different order.

SO, I JUST got around to testing out the rewired micro-SD adapter card I got from a seller in Hungary, and with the proper formatting/arrangement of FBA games and the injection of the Unibios, this little system's potential is widened ever so slightly.

YESSSS, I know. It's still just a Dingoo, AND yes there are other options to emulate Neo-Geo on other portables, yes yes yes I know I know, I'm just personally driven to maximize the potential of what things do exist and this is a thing that I now own, so why not?

The good news for those who have one of these is that about 90% of the Neo-Geo library runs perfectly fine (relatively speaking) on the X-Gold console via the card.

Late gen games that may use more active memory than this unit can muster don't boot (late KOF games, Metal Slug 4,5 - these also have problems on Dingoo and some other Neo-Geo emulation platforms) but everything else runs fine and with the unibios you can have unlimited credits, remove any region locked censorship, etc.

Yeah, the video output is still a bit wonky. No fixes or updates there, but with the rewired card adapter you can add any 50 additional games with no permanent modification/changes to the system.

SOL BADGUY

04-24-2013, 09:08 PM

Final Burn Alpha can run other games too like CPS1&2 games, are you gonna try those?

Frankie_Says_Relax

04-24-2013, 09:35 PM

Final Burn Alpha can run other games too like CPS1&2 games, are you gonna try those?

I'll have to look into that!

Not sure if this is running a build of FBA that can run those, though I will say that CPS 1 and 2 emulation is some of the BEST on Dingoo.

SOL BADGUY

04-24-2013, 10:10 PM

I'll have to look into that!

Not sure if this is running a build of FBA that can run those, though I will say that CPS 1 and 2 emulation is some of the BEST on Dingoo.

Yea, the only problem is the button limitation o nthe NEO GE Ostick, but thats only bad for the fighting games, you can still play great shooters like Progear, Mars Matrix, Giga Wing and Dimahoo. And the beatem ups too.

Frankie_Says_Relax

04-24-2013, 11:22 PM

Yea, the only problem is the button limitation o nthe NEO GE Ostick, but thats only bad for the fighting games, you can still play great shooters like Progear, Mars Matrix, Giga Wing and Dimahoo. And the beatem ups too.

Actually the Neo Geo X has two MORE buttons than the Dingoo, on the shoulders.

But is looks like this wont run CPS games natively. It needs custom firmware for that. No big, I always planned on this just being a Neo-Geo thing. I can do CPS fine on my Dingoo.