It Isn't cheating but it feels like it. Do you feel guilty?

[djbeatmongrel]

Have you ever played a game and found this move or certain thing to do that makes a boss, fight, or set obstacles much more easier then the norm but it isn't a code? have you felt like you are limiting your full gaming potential. if so, post the game and the move or whatever it is to confess your gaming sin! :angry: :evil:

heres mine:

FF7The boss Gi Nattak can be killed by just using an x-potion. I've done it every time I've tried to beat it(i will beat it this summer though :D )

Any FighterOnce i learn a really good easy-to-do move i use it as a desperation attack all of the time if it doesn't look good for me in a match:P

[WiseSalesman]

I still haven't beaten Castlevania: Circle of the Moon, because I'm morally opposed to:

a) Levelling....in any game (I'm at level 44 currently)
b) Using the summons against dracula

So, I've been stuck at this point in the game with nothing else to do but beat dracula's final form, and the damn floating eyeball keeps killing me.

[chadtower]

This is definitely the worst in sports games... like in NHL 95 where you could score on certain shots 100% of the time. Kind of makes the competition irrelevant...

[Needle]

The old NES game Rygar comes to mind.

Normally, I can't beat this game. It's just really difficult. But when I was a kid, I developed a technique to level up Rygar to his highest possible power before fighting any bosses (this technique has since gone on to become widespread; I guess I wasn't the only kid looking for an easy way out).

Basically you just go to Lapis and kill the same Super Robot over and over again. Afer about 15-20 minutes, Rygar is at full power, and can kill most bosses in a few hits. :D

I've since taken up the same strategy for the classic NES game, Bionic Commando, by powering up to maximum within Area 1.

It definitely feels like cheating. Maybe one day I'll go back and try to tackle the game legitimately...

[hades]

... for those of us who suck at video games ... it's the only way to go. ;-)

Knights of the Round helped me kill Sepiroth. I'm not ashamed. :-D

[kainemaxwell]

Anyone remember the old Vanish-X-Zone spell trick from FF3/6?

[grayejectbutton]

Nah, I don't feel guilty. As you say, it's not cheating. There aren't too many games I can think of that I have done this on, but Super Mario World is a good example. You know, that top secret area bit where you can just get a Yoshi (or 1-up if you already have Yoshi), plus mushrooms, flowers and feather power ups. You can just keep going there and getting unlimited lives if you want. Cheating? Nah... Nintendo shouldn't have put it in there if they didn't want people taking advantage of it!

[atomicthumbs]

Well, in a situation like that (the second boss battle in Bionic Commando for instance) I thinks it's fine.

As far as real cheating goes... I have no problem with it! Especially when it comes to an RPG with WAY TO FREAKING MANY random battles. I just don't have the time to spend 50+ hours anymore with work, school and other responsibilities. Do you think it's bad? Tough! :D

[WiseSalesman]

... for those of us who suck at video games ... it's the only way to go. ;-)

Knights of the Round helped me kill Sepiroth. I'm not ashamed. :-D

You NEEDED help to kill sephiroth? He was a freaking wuss in tha game! LOL

[hades]

You NEEDED help to kill sephiroth? He was a freaking wuss in tha game! LOL

Yep, he kicked my ass a few times. I never claimed to be any good at FF games. I have a habit of rushing through RPG's. I don't remember what level I was on when I beat it, but I believe it was a bit low.

You have Kain as your avatar, so obviously you're going to be a lot better at these FF rpg's than a lowly speed rpg player is. ;-)

[ubersaurus]

Have you ever played a game and found this move or certain thing to do that makes a boss, fight, or set obstacles much more easier then the norm but it isn't a code? have you felt like you are limiting your full gaming potential. if so, post the game and the move or whatever it is to confess your gaming sin! :angry: :evil:

heres mine:

FF7The boss Gi Nattak can be killed by just using an x-potion. I've done it every time I've tried to beat it(i will beat it this summer though :D )

Any FighterOnce i learn a really good easy-to-do move i use it as a desperation attack all of the time if it doesn't look good for me in a match:P

The trick to part B is hoping to hell the other guy doesn't find a way around that move ;p I used something like that though, in capcom vs snk 2, S-groove athena gets to desperation mode, and can do infinite level 1 supers...so I just keep doing crystal bit over and over and over and over and over and over until they die. Fun!

Also, I'll admit it-I cheated to beat the 2nd level boss in Double Dragon on NES. Go back down the ladders, go back up the ladders.

[slapdash]

I don't feel it's cheating unless it appears to be a glitch in the game -- if it's just something in the rules/physics that you can use to your advantage, all power to you.

My favorite was in Tomb Raider... There's one point where you meet this giant bulbous thing on a ledge, so it's really sort of a boss stage. We tried over and over to defeat this, but inevitably it would grab us and smack us into the ground until dead, or we'd fall off the ledge.

Ah, but then I tried something...

It turns out that you can go to the edge and drop down so you're hanging there. Well, out of sight, out of mind -- the big ugly blob man turns around and heads back to the door you came in, waiting for another victim. All you need to do is give him time to get there, pop up and shoot at him, and when he starts to get too close again, drop off and wait again.

I checked out the strategy guides that were available at the time, and they all just said "run in circles around him and be careful not to fall off". Pfft.

[MarioAllStar2600]

In Ice Hockey for the 2600. You can go against the back wall, and skate against the net, when you get to thge net SHOOT. Its a guarnteed goal, im almost positive that's it. I stopped playing the game after I found out that cheat.

[Cafeman]

@SlappyDash:

That is how I'd document beating that excellent boss (hanging over the ledge), despite what those strat guides said!

I always thought that was the intended way to beat it, and I still do.

[Arrrhalomynn]

After I got baldur's gate 2, I decided to create an uber character in baldur's gate and then import it into part 2. There are certain tomes in Baldur's Gate that will raise a stat permantly. I play through the game, get all tomes, higher my stats, import my character in a new game and do the same, untill all stats are at their maximum.

Untill I found out it was much easier to export my character when it had all tomes with him. Then I'd start a new game and import this character 6 times, so I had a full party. I'd put all tomes on one guy and upgraded him. I felt kinda bad about it, since I thought it was cheating. But the more I think about it, the less I'm sure it really is...

[slapdash]

@SlappyDash:

That is how I'd document beating that excellent boss (hanging over the ledge), despite what those strat guides said!

I always thought that was the intended way to beat it, and I still do.

Yeah... I suspect that may be intentional, but I don't know... The boss's behavior seems a bit odd from a "real-world" logic standpoint. But, they programmed it to do that, so I figure it's not cheating, and if I'D written the guide, I sure would have put that "trick" in the book.

[Half Japanese]

Jesus Jones...I do this all the time. Here's a few of my favorites


NES - Nintendo World Cup

There's a cheap way to get goal about 75% of the time, sort of "hook" around the goal and kick it in, or wait until you get the ball about midfield and pass it around (staying midfield) until someone passes it back to you in the air, at which point you hit A+B and do a backflip and the ball flashes red and blue and knocks the goalie down.

GCN - Robotech Battlecry

I couldn't beat Skaarde in Chapter 2 (or is it 3?), so I eventually learned that I could stay at the edge of the sewer drains and just pop up and shoot him before he had a chance to pop off shots back at me (frigg'n sniper gun took off a quarter of your health with every hit).

Many Games - Various Systems

Gamefaqs. There's simply some puzzles that are unsolvable unless you are the developer and know EXACTLY what they had in mind. Luckily someone else did :D.

[Oberfuhrer Hamm]

Nah, I don't feel guilty. As you say, it's not cheating. There aren't too many games I can think of that I have done this on, but Super Mario World is a good example. You know, that top secret area bit where you can just get a Yoshi (or 1-up if you already have Yoshi), plus mushrooms, flowers and feather power ups. You can just keep going there and getting unlimited lives if you want. Cheating? Nah... Nintendo shouldn't have put it in there if they didn't want people taking advantage of it!

If you want unlimited lives, there is a better place to go. Somewhere in the forbidden forest, there is a world where there is a star right before a whole pile of enemies. If you get the star, and kill all the enemies in the latter half of the level, you can get about 12-15 lives per try.

[Oberfuhrer Hamm]

Well, in a situation like that (the second boss battle in Bionic Commando for instance) I thinks it's fine.

As far as real cheating goes... I have no problem with it! Especially when it comes to an RPG with WAY TO FREAKING MANY random battles. I just don't have the time to spend 50+ hours anymore with work, school and other responsibilities. Do you think it's bad? Tough! :D

That is one of the MAIN reasons I liked FF8. One of the GF's (Can't remember the name.) eventually gives you the ability to turn off ALL the random encounters. Made Sorceress Ultimecia (sp?) palace a walk in the park.

[Classicgamesdepot]

Turtles 2: Arcade game! The simultaneous A+B attack killed guys in hit, there was literally no point in using the regular attack because that attack killed enemies in one hit and didn't cost any health, don't feel guilty, I know what you mean though, wish I could think of more stuff, games where you can level up (rpgs etc, come to mind)...

[bargora]

In Armored Core 3 (PS2) I blew my way through the Arena mode (1 vs. 1 combat) by taking the fastest hover "legs" and mounting either the dual grenade launchers or some huge missile launchers. It felt cheap sometimes, yes, but then, the AI you fought against seemed cheap sometimes, too. I doubt that my setup would probably work very weill against a human opponent.

Of course, the ultra-cheese arena victories came when you were standing at the edge of the arena, a fast AI core would rush you, you'd sidestep, and they'd miss you and ring out.

[Nature Boy]

I don't consider the types of things I've read here to be cheating. Especially stuff like the X-Potion trick. It's in there for a reason.

Fighting games are the worst for that stuff. If somebody can only do one move again and again and again in order to beat you, well, it becomes boring to play. Even if I were the one winning all the time I wouldn't bother with it anymore. You only play the games while you're feeling challenged, right? Well, most of the time...