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IHatedSega
02-06-2013, 02:59 AM
What are some mistakes or evil things companies could have done this generation of consoles that they could end up doing next gen?

Capcom will start charging you to unlock new special moves in SF 5.
There will be computer viruses infecting the 720 since itll use Explorer.


Those are just two I came up with with no real foundation to actually believe will happen, but they still could. Whats some ideas you fear that will happen?

Griking
02-06-2013, 09:57 PM
What are some mistakes or evil things companies could have done this generation of consoles that they could end up doing next gen?

Capcom will start charging you to unlock new special moves in SF 5.
There will be computer viruses infecting the 720 since itll use Explorer.


Those are just two I came up with with no real foundation to actually believe will happen, but they still could. Whats some ideas you fear that will happen?



lol. Norton Anti Virus for Xbox :help:

XYXZYZ
02-06-2013, 11:24 PM
Capcom will start charging you to unlock new special moves in SF 5.
There will be computer viruses infecting the 720 since itll use Explorer.


Just examples of how gaming continues to evolve further and further away from my interests. :|

The 1 2 P
02-06-2013, 11:39 PM
There will be computer viruses infecting the 720 since itll use Explorer.

The 360 already uses IE and there are no viruses. But I wouldn't mind some kind of spam killer for all these ads on the corners of the dashboard. And thats the only thing I could see making games worse, having pop-up ads during gameplay. Dashboard ads are annoying enough.

IHatedSega
02-07-2013, 06:16 AM
What are you guys ideas of the possible worse case scenario future?

Tanooki
02-07-2013, 08:50 AM
A second video game crash.

It would be brought on by all the insipid greed and stupidity of the game making companies trying to pass the blame onto the consumers for their own rotten business models from both sales and development time&costs. The first step is the locking out of second hand games and more DRM garbage, and it'll continue on from there.

retroguy
02-07-2013, 08:50 AM
Worst case scenario? Nintendo leaves the market. Without their competition, Microsoft and Sony proceed to screw gamers ten ways to sunday. Angered, gamers refuse to buy their product in droves, killing console gaming as we know it. Five years later, games and gamers are an eternal punchline for comedians, always sure to get a laugh. "So what's the deal with gamers? Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't games supposed to be played by little children? Hey, look at me! I'm playing online hide and go seek!" The audience applauds loudly.

Gameguy
02-07-2013, 02:01 PM
A second video game crash.
I don't really see this as a bad thing. Maybe something new will get made instead of the same hyper-realistic FPS games or new versions of Final Fantasy/Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Madden/every other 20+ year old franchise that just releases an updated version every few years.

Smaller more creative companies need a better chance to get noticed.

LordsOfSkulls
02-07-2013, 03:40 PM
big problem i have with capcom is that their no release of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on PS Vita or PS3....

WCP
02-07-2013, 08:44 PM
The most disturbing thing I'm seeing is all the DLC type stuff that is going on in games like Dead Space 3. You pay $60 for a game, and then they bombard you with requests to buy this gun, or that ammo, etc, etc. The nickel and diming of the gaming population is going to get really out of control in the near future.

wingzrow
02-07-2013, 08:57 PM
"things could always be worse"

I hate thinking like this. It's a slippery slope & it makes you settle for things that you just shouldn't.

That said, hmm. How about a system that has locked games per system, is download only, you have to pay to play online, and each game is half finished or has half the game locked until you pay additional fees to unlock it for you. Additionally, the games won't play unless your're connected to the internet, and the single player (if any) deletes it's self when you finish it one time.

This is pretty much my end game scenario.

Jack7
02-08-2013, 12:26 AM
I'm half and half on dlc. I like how borderlands dlc is handled and feel that that's how it should be done. I shouldn't have to pay for pallete swaps in fighting games. Especially since we use to get them for free. I think a crash might be coming but I don't think it'll be as big as the first

Collector_Gaming
02-08-2013, 12:50 AM
I almost feel like we are in for another video game crash. I know it sounds impossible. But something about how the buisness's are pushing things right now or atleast how the rumors are stating it. I feel like something bad is gonna come from it.

But at the same time i agree a second crash could help shake things up and get companies back on track on creating new exciting titles other then the same call of duty/BF hack game and GTA wanna be (although i agree some are great.... but some are just stupid)

Press_Start
02-08-2013, 01:52 AM
I almost feel like we are in for another video game crash. I know it sounds impossible. But something about how the buisness's are pushing things right now or atleast how the rumors are stating it. I feel like something bad is gonna come from it.

But at the same time i agree a second crash could help shake things up and get companies back on track on creating new exciting titles other then the same call of duty/BF hack game and GTA wanna be (although i agree some are great.... but some are just stupid)

Our videogame companies don't want to make games, they want to control. DLC, DRM, online passes, and now anti-used game measures? These guys want to turn us into money cows to milk down at their beckon call. Where are the innovations? Where's the next level of video games? The big ideas? The fresh perspectives? The new frontiers?

You know what? Let 'em! Like I said in another thread, they're signing their death warrant. These greedy twats are setting themselves up for a crash without realizing. Gamer base shrinking by half, skyrocketing costs, collapsing sales, rampant piracy and console abandonment.....all these will come to pass in one form or another, I guarantee it and "good riddance to them". You can quote me on that.

Jack7
02-08-2013, 05:05 AM
it seems like nintendos the only bandwagon I'll jump on. that and PC. There's not a whole lot I can get on ps360 that I can't get on pc

rlemmon
02-08-2013, 05:33 AM
My fears would also be that games would be console locked and used games would be eliminated. I am a huge fan of buying used games. If you can find a used game shop with the right prices and selection you can get allot for little money. If they do block used games were all screwed down the road when a game we want is out of print. It's kind of hard to build a collection with no games to buy.

I believe Nintendo is to smart to do this.They have the bennifit of the Wii u launching first. If Sony and or Microsoft do go through with it They will be putting the final nail in there coffins and Nintendo will be able to learn from there mistakes. Sony as a whole is not doing well at all and there was talk about there not being a Ps 4 at one point. They seem to assume that gamers are sheep and will keep buying no matter what. Theres a hell of allot of us who will draw the line at console locked and blocked used games. I say fuck Sony and Microsoft it they go through with it. If there that ignorant they deserve to get crushed. Dont get me wrong I hope that this dosen't happen because without competition were going to end up with shitty games I just have a bad feeling that this is were were headed.

IHatedSega
02-08-2013, 06:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co8e37Pc-lw


Heres a cool video to watch.

wingzrow
02-08-2013, 09:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co8e37Pc-lw


Heres a cool video to watch.

So he's basically saying video games need to be more like movies, or at least visual novels. Not surprising from the creator of heavy rain. What I fear from going down that path is taking away control from the player. The close you come to storytelling the more games become like movies, and really, controlling a game is pretty much the only thing separating many games from movies these days.

Daltone
02-08-2013, 10:26 AM
- Games for Windows Live. Designed to make you experience 600% more horrible. This kind of DRM drives me mad (because it barely works). I'd hate to imagine it being everywhere.

- The death of the single player game. I like adventure games and western RPGs really. I like FPSs with good single player campaigns. I don't want to be matched against a load of foul mouthed twelve year olds from Poland - I want to play against my friends if I am going to play agains anyone. Multiplayer should be an afterthought.

IHatedSega
02-08-2013, 11:17 AM
So he's basically saying video games need to be more like movies, or at least visual novels. Not surprising from the creator of heavy rain. What I fear from going down that path is taking away control from the player. The close you come to storytelling the more games become like movies, and really, controlling a game is pretty much the only thing separating many games from movies these days.

I didnt get the turn games into movies thing like you did.

I think he meant games need to stop just being summer block buster types. There needs to be games like most of the movies in The Criterion Collection. Real art that can be taken seriously by older people so then older people who can appreciate things, more than kids who only care about graphics, come in and then the industry will evolve. He just used movies as an example.

And I think hes right about Hollywood only treating video games a cash in on their movies. Theres countless awesome films that could become amazing video games, but theyre not made. Theres a video game for Watchmen, but why isnt there a video game of The Seventh Seal?

Rob2600
02-08-2013, 01:40 PM
They seem to assume that gamers are sheep and will keep buying no matter what. Theres a hell of allot of us who will draw the line at console locked and blocked used games.

Did gamers draw the line when the Xbox 360 had a 50% failure rate and kept breaking for no reason? Or did gamers keep buying multiple replacement consoles no matter what?

Clownzilla
02-08-2013, 02:28 PM
I can almost promise you that game companies will charge for special moves in the near future. Honestly, I think games will eventually be sold via expiring licenses as opposed to being sold outright.

rlemmon
02-08-2013, 04:32 PM
Did gamers draw the line when the Xbox 360 had a 50% failure rate and kept breaking for no reason? Or did gamers keep buying multiple replacement consoles no matter what?

They did keep buying them, but they were also buying a 1 year warranty and they knew they could play there games on them no matter were they bought them. They also knew they could take their games to a friends house to play. I Think the hole blocked and locked thing will go very badly for sony and microsoft. Alot of gamers are already furious about it. Sure some will buy it but I dont think enough people will buy them to sustain them.

BydoEmpire
02-08-2013, 06:28 PM
...can be taken seriously by older people so then older people who can appreciate things ... then the industry will evolve. There were games like that - in the 80s and early 90s (and I loved them as a kid, and certainly appreciate them as an adult). Battle of Antietam. Solo Flight. A myriad plane/tank/sub sims. Infocom text adventures. When development costs were lower, you could make a profit selling 50k or 100k of a title, and these "niche" genres could survive. We got titles that were actually mature. Not in today's sense of the word, which is basically blood, boobies and swearing, but atually mature - serious themes and games that required thought. Nowadays development costs are too high for a big publisher to attempt these types of games, so there isn't a whole lot other tan "Hollywood Blockbusters." IMHO, the industry has devolved over time.