Heavy Rain is SO UNDERRATED!!

[Astrid.Hecate]

I just bought Heavy Rain for like $10 bucks on ebay, I have to say it was the best ten bucks I've ever spent. Do you remember those old adventure/horror books where you got to pick your own fate/ending? Well, this game is a lot like that. I was searching for a game that would fit how my idea of gaming should really be. I think this one fit quite well. Although it is your different type of game style, not only by the motion controlling, the 'choose your ending' style game play, but also the genre of the game. It's set up like a mystery/psychological thriller/action adventure that lets you pick your own ending depending on how you play your game. It's always fun to have your own unique story for your first time playing it, instead of being the perfect story. Sometimes it doesn't always turn out how you wanted it to go, but you can either just go with your mistakes and keep going or their is an option to replay your story point in the main menu. I can't believe how underrated this game really is. As you go along with your own unique story, you unlock rewards and other miscellaneous items about the production of the game, how the game was made, and storyboard artwork. The graphics are great, with lots of detail, especially with the facial expressions, body movement, and high technology equipment. The makers really put a lot of thought into the game for such great stories it told. I'm shocked that people don't rave about this game. 10/10

This game has motion control technology built into your ps3 remote, so it's very different to get the hang of. Not hard, just different. The game does have easy, medium, and hard modes to choose from if you like a bit of a challenge or if you don't play games that much and is just in it for the story. Either way, it's such a great story and mix of psychological emotions that makes you guess who's the real Origami Killer really is. With your motion censored controller you have to find clues, climb, drive, use new FBI technology to track down the killer, make insane decisions that effect your game, fight off your attackers, ect. Depending on your game play, you could use all of these and more.
(Official Trailer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXsILJ3XhAk
(Extended Trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_912815&feature=iv&src_vid=6b7jb1LKO_U&v=dvWjRg31O9Y

The Main Story - You play as four protagonists involved with the mystery of the Origami Killer, a serial killer who uses extended periods of rainfall to drown his victims. You must find and stop the Origami Killer before he takes the life of his next victim using each of the four main characters.

The Characters -
Ethan Mars -is trying to save his son from being the next victim, but after his first sons death and frequent blackouts that leaves him in the same place every time, leads him to think he could be the Origami Killer and the only way to find his son is to go though though his own hell to find him. Is Ethan Mars the Origami Killer or does the Origami Killer want him to think he's the Origami Killer?
Madison Paige - An investigative journalist who has a nack for getting into trouble and starts to develop feelings for Ethan. Could a love affair play a role in this mystery of the capture of the Origami Killer?
Norman Jayden - An FBI profiler sent out to investigate the murder victims, find clues, and track down the real killer while dealing with his own drug addiction. Is this all just an illusion, is Norman the Origami Killer, can he solve the murder case without the need of drugs?
Scott Shelby - a private detective paid for the victims's parents. Can he solve the case on his own leads or will it lead to no where?

Each trying to track down clues to the Origami Killer's identity. The player can interact with the game by performing actions highlighted on screen related to motions on the controller, and in some cases, performing a series of quick time events during fast-paced action sequences. The player's decisions and actions during the game will affect the narrative. The main characters can be killed, and certain actions may lead to different scenes and endings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyubR1rknBM


Making of Heavy Rain - When you complete the game you will unlock bonus clips, exclusive storyboard artwork, videos, making of, voice actors, ect. The behind the scenes making of the game is really cool to see. They hired real live actors to get down the emotions of the characters as well as the live sequences for the fighting scenes. They wanted to make this game as realistic as possible. Even the actors look a great deal like the characters in the game, it's kind of spooky. It's great to take a look at though and hopefully more futuristic games like this one will be made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8jW4pcFIjg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C_qcvooBxA


This video game also came with an extension pack only for the PS3 Network downloadable content. This was known as: Heavy Rain Chronicles: Episode One - The Taxidermist. The other chronicles had been cancelled after the first episode due to resources and time being allotted into adapting Heavy Rain to the Move system. The Taxidermist is included in the Heavy Rain Collector's Edition free of charge when activated via code, and the game on the Heavy Rain Move Edition without the need to download.
The Taxidermist follows Madison Paige two years before the events of Heavy Rain as she investigates Leland White, a man suspected of being the Origami Killer. It's really worth to play this game, it's creepy in an old horror movie sequence like walking into a Texas Chainsaw movie. In my opinion it would be totally worth getting this one, it was quite fun to play. Really enjoyed it and I wish there was more episodes like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN59PmBxZ70


Other Games by Quantic Dream -
Omikron: The Nomad Soul
Fahrenheit
Heavy Rain
Beyond: Two Souls
Immortal

Quantic Dream's Upcoming Projects -
As of March 2011, news suggest that one of Quantic Dream's next projects will be called Fiv5.

On August 4, 2011, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe filed a trademark for Infraworld, which was a project once in development at Quantic Dream, but was cancelled during the early stages of development. An easter egg inside of Heavy Rain showed a poster for Infraworld with Quantic Dream's logo at the bottom of the poster, which hints that Infraworld may be back in development and could be one of Quantic Dream's future projects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1UUctLU6Q

On March 7, 2012, Quantic Dream released a short film entitled "Kara", displaying their new game engine that uses new motion capture technology running on a PlayStation 3. The short, displayed in real time, revolves around a newly constructed Android named Kara (played by Valorie Curry) who presents a dilemma to her operator after discovering the ability to think. Director David Cage revealed the short was made over a year ago when the engine was in its early build. The developer's untitled engine is still in development and its features have been increased by 50 percent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0KTUysrwgQ

On June 4, 2012, at E3 Quantic Dream announced a new game called Beyond: Two Souls. It will be released in 2013.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NEup8y0g-Q[/COLOR]

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:vamp: Let me know what you think and what your first story was. :vamp:

(Note: This thread may have spoilers in comment section)

[Graham Mitchell]

People did rave about the game when it came out. It was very highly rated by the vg press.

Though I enjoyed it, I actually didn't find it that groundbreaking because, well, I've played dragons lair.

I think it gets a lot of high marks because the story is so compelling, but I didn't think it was much of a game. I know most people don't agree with me on that, but it's how I feel.

[Daltone]

It's good, but it is a bit slow in places (and this coming from a fan)

[xelement5x]

Yeah, I actually just beat this game for the first time this week and it really felt more like a souped up visual novel to me.

The sixaxis stuff was cool, but not too much to write home on. I guess I could see some replay value in the game but once you know who the killer is a lot of the tension is lost. Also, even though I got the Director's Cut glitches abound in this game.

My main complaint would be the voice actors, because the audio just sounded weird sometimes. I think it had to do with them all being from Europe, even though the game was set in the US. The only VA that really pulled me in was the Private Eye. The rest always sounded..... off.

[IHatedSega]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co8e37Pc-lw

I really agree wit the creators thoughts that games shouldnt just be summer blockbuster types, and video games can do way more than they have before.

[Nebagram]

I loved Heavy Rain, played it through to all the endings but never bothered to get the platinum trophy for it as it came out in February 2010, aka the time my (and a lot of people's) PS3s got confused by the lack of a leap year and ate most of the trophies I'd accumulated for that game. My only regret about the game is that they abandoned further dlc packs in favour of shoehorning in PS Move support, a concept so bad it's actually painful.

That said though, I'll be picking up Beyond, and if the rumours are true and they're extending Kara into a PS4 game called 'Singularity', I'll be picking that up as well.

If we're posting related videos in this thread, I'll leave you with this-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C_AGSzGef4

[GhostDog]

My copy is still sealed along with other countless games. I'll open it soon and play through it. The reviews are amazing for this game that's why I bought it. I wonder what I'll think of it.

[eskobar]

Heavy Rain is overrated, no underrated @_@


you should give yourself the chance to play a real gem of Quantic Dream: INDIGO PROPHECY .... it's SO MUCH BETTER than HR and when you finish it your opinion of HR will not be the same :roll:

[BHvrd]

Agreed Heavy Rain is a masterpiece. Really pulls you in and tugs at you the whole time and gets you emotionally invested with the characters like only movies can do, but even more so as you struggle with the characters conflicts in real time.

Definitely one to be looked at on how to push gaming forward as a medium in general.

At least the medium needs to be evolved according to Roger Ebert, with whom I partly agree, yet not quite to the extreme that he goes when comparing motion pictures to videogames as an art form:


Roger Ebert: Nevertheless, I remain convinced that in principle, video games cannot be art. Perhaps it is foolish of me to say "never," because never, as Rick Wakeman informs us, is a long, long time. Let me just say that no video gamer now living will survive long enough to experience the medium as an art form.

Guess he hasn't played Heavy Rain and whether any gamer wants to admit it or not being recognized as an art form comparable to films and books is a pretty necessary evolution for the medium to survive on a whole, doesn't mean you can't still play your Mario Bros. or Call fo Duty though, they just won't be considered "Criterion" material. :p

[kedawa]

If barely interactive wannabe movies are 'pushing gaming forward as a medium in general' then I'm happy to go backwards.
Games shouldn't have to rely on scripts and plots; they should have a premise and gameplay that allows the gamer to create his own plot.

That's not to say Heavy Rain isn't a worthwhile experience. I don't know if there are any other games like it for the current generation, and the production values are good. I just don't see limited interactivity and linearity as progress.

[Gameguy]

I never thought Heavy Rain was underrated, it always seemed to have high reviews.

I remember this article saying Deadly Premonition was better than Heavy Rain, saying Heavy Rain was overrated.
http://www.destructoid.com/deadly-premonition-is-blatantly-better-than-heavy-rain-165288.phtml

[The 1 2 P]

Yes I enjoyed Heavy Quick Time Event....er, Rain very much. It's definitely not for everyone but I'm a sucker for a good story and this game had an amazing story. To date it's the only PS3 game that I have platinumed and I also got the Japanese import version and a promo copy from Europe.


My only regret about the game is that they abandoned further dlc packs in favour of shoehorning in PS Move support, a concept so bad it's actually painful.

I heard about that too and it sucks because furthering this story would have been quite enjoyable. I liked the extra dlc they released for Madison but I wish they would have added trophy support for it.

[LordsOfSkulls]

if you liked heavy rain.

Check out Indigo Prophecy Xbox/PS2 (i think u can play Indigo Prophecy on Xbox 360) or PC


Also next game coming out for PS3 Beyond:Twin Souls looks even more awesome =) than Heavy Rain.

[c0ldb33r]

I played this for like 2 hours and was very, very, bored. :(

I wanted it to be good.

[Az]

My only regret about the game is that they abandoned further dlc packs in favour of shoehorning in PS Move support, a concept so bad it's actually painful.

Got this as a gift from the Mrs. a while ago, hadn't had a chance to play it yet but hopefully will this week.

Mine was the Greatest Hits version with the Move stuff included. I can't find it listed anywhere on the packaging, so maybe someone that has used it could shed some light.

Does using the Move control setup require the additional nun-chuck attachment thing, Or just the main glowing personal-massager thing?

[IHatedSega]

gamer wants to admit it or not being recognized as an art form comparable to films and books is a pretty necessary evolution for the medium to survive on a whole, doesn't mean you can't still play your Mario Bros. or Call fo Duty though, they just won't be considered "Criterion" material. :p

I think there are plenty of film makers and goers who dont think of films as art. There just has to be more people who make games as art. That hasnt been done enough, so it needs to really start happening. Ebert thinks that because of the interactive nature of games they arent art, but games have limited outcomes to your choices in them, so I think his argument can be nulled in the long term. To me, with the interactive nature of games they can make better stories than films, maybe as well as books tell them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJg2mYhp_TY




Oh yeah, Tropies, what a bunch of bs that is to me. I think those need to go.

[Astrid.Hecate]

People did rave about the game when it came out. It was very highly rated by the vg press.

Though I enjoyed it, I actually didn't find it that groundbreaking because, well, I've played dragons lair.

I think it gets a lot of high marks because the story is so compelling, but I didn't think it was much of a game. I know most people don't agree with me on that, but it's how I feel.

I'm glad you enjoyed it though. It does have a hard mode for a bit of a challenge. Maybe you could try that version? The story was really great for a game. I agree, it is more like a movie, although with the decision making and fast pasted button pressing, it made it suspenseful. You have to admit for a new ps3 game it was pretty good. I'm expecting some more like it though. Perhaps ps4 will be more adventure motion controller play and better games than the ps3. There is a lot of shooter games, although they are fun, they lack the story. Sometimes, you feel nothing for the character, which is great if you just want to have fun, like a zombie movie. But if you want a real classic game it has to have a great story in my opinion. I feel it's important to have these qualities in a game to make them legendary, kind of like classic horror films. I've never played Dragon's Lair, i'll check it out though. I just watched a video on it, the style is great I love it. It almost reminds me of a Black Cauldron movie mixed with game play. Thank you for the info. :)

[Astrid.Hecate]

It's good, but it is a bit slow in places (and this coming from a fan)

Could you explain a bit more?

[IHatedSega]

I've never played Dragon's Lair, i'll check it out though. I just watched a video on it, the style is great I love it. It almost reminds me of a Black Cauldron movie mixed with game play. Thank you for the info. :)

Don Bluth made Dragons Lair, so Disney animators did the artwork. HR is a big step forward from Dragon's Lair though since you have to move around the controller.

[Graham Mitchell]

Dragons lair 1 and 2, as well as space ace are available on Blu ray, and will work on your ps3. You should check them out, astrid.hecate.

I don't know if I'll bite for beyond:two souls. Heavy rain and David cage's pretentious attitude haven't left me super impressed. Say what you want about fps games, but at least their big on interaction.

[Astrid.Hecate]

Yeah, I actually just beat this game for the first time this week and it really felt more like a souped up visual novel to me.

The sixaxis stuff was cool, but not too much to write home on. I guess I could see some replay value in the game but once you know who the killer is a lot of the tension is lost. Also, even though I got the Director's Cut glitches abound in this game.

My main complaint would be the voice actors, because the audio just sounded weird sometimes. I think it had to do with them all being from Europe, even though the game was set in the US. The only VA that really pulled me in was the Private Eye. The rest always sounded..... off.

Yeah, it's more of a story play kind of game, not your average shooter game like Battlefeild or Call of Duty. I think it's more like a story game..like those adventure/horror books that lets you pick your own ending. It wasn't annoying like Dragon Age, I mean Dragon Age is a good game but their is too much reading and not enough game play. And at least you don't have to read in Heavy Rain. I like that because you know how these games are getting with the print. They keep getting smaller and smaller I think. lol. I quite enjoyed the game for what it was and with such an incredible storyline it was priceless. I played the demo on the psn before buying it and the demo was great. It really drawled me in because I was looking for something more personal and make you keep questioning yourself. It was very psychologically intense.

I'm hoping in the near future, perhaps with the new ps4 coming out they will do more real adventure/horror/action games since a lot of ps3 games are shooter games. So, I think i'd be fair if they did some good storyline games with more things to do. For example Heavy Rain was a great starter game to kick off their company, but they should do more with it. I was thinking they could make the story more interactive and you have a point about knowing who the real killer is, it takes away the suspense..well, in saying that, perhaps they could make different killers based off of the game play that you chose. For instance, what decisions you make, it would effect the game to who became the killer. So every time you played, each ending would have a different killer. Does that make sense? I think then, this will make it more appealing to replay the game different times, with different endings. It's just a thought though.

The voice acting didn't really bother me at all, in fact I kind of liked it. I'm not sure if they were from Europe or not, perhaps they used different voice actors/actresses for the Directors Cut. I'd love to have though. You mentioned something about being a Private Eye, I saw a preview of a Rockstar game called L.A. Noire. You probabally know how Rockstar games go about if you've played any of the GTA series. lol. I've never played it but it looks okay, minus the graphics aren't perfect, but it looks like something you were talking about. Here's a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYym1U226M

Thanks for your review. :)

[Astrid.Hecate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co8e37Pc-lw

I really agree wit the creators thoughts that games shouldnt just be summer blockbuster types, and video games can do way more than they have before.

Thanks for the video response! :)

[Astrid.Hecate]

I loved Heavy Rain, played it through to all the endings but never bothered to get the platinum trophy for it as it came out in February 2010, aka the time my (and a lot of people's) PS3s got confused by the lack of a leap year and ate most of the trophies I'd accumulated for that game. My only regret about the game is that they abandoned further dlc packs in favour of shoehorning in PS Move support, a concept so bad it's actually painful.

That said though, I'll be picking up Beyond, and if the rumours are true and they're extending Kara into a PS4 game called 'Singularity', I'll be picking that up as well.

If we're posting related videos in this thread, I'll leave you with this-

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C_AGSzGef4

I'm glad you enjoyed the game, it was great to play. It was different than most games out there today, which was nice for a change. I don't really play for trophies, although they are cool to get them and I can appreciate them to show how you can master a game and how well of a player you are to get a sense of how good the other player is. But it's really not my thing. I like them but not my thing. It's kind of like, you never used to have trophies and I don't need to show off to people how good of a gamer I really am. I play games because I like them and I can appreciate the concept of trophies but I don't play just for trophies lol. I think sometimes that's what people do, play for trophies and it's the wrong reason to play. lol. It's a blessing and a curse I guess. lol.

I agree what your saying about not continuing the chronicles. I really wish they kept doing them, but I guess they couldn't because of the ps3 Move going into game play. I'm not sure on that, but that's what I've gathered. I like the concept of move because it's different, as long as they keep the original controller, idk why but I can't stand using any other kind. I guess it's just because I grew up with Playstation and having a wii stick makes me wanna rage. Haha. :D

Thanks for the video clip, I haven't seen Derailed but i've herd good things about it. I don't think I can ever look at that guy the same ever again lol. Everytime I see him I think of that game.

[Astrid.Hecate]

My copy is still sealed along with other countless games. I'll open it soon and play through it. The reviews are amazing for this game that's why I bought it. I wonder what I'll think of it.

Yeah, i'm the same way. I have a few games I have that I haven't opened yet. I mean I still have Assassins Creed III that I bought on Black Friday, that I haven't played yet. Still in the package lol. But let me know what you think of the game. I hope you enjoy it. :vamp:

[Astrid.Hecate]

Heavy Rain is overrated, no underrated @_@


you should give yourself the chance to play a real gem of Quantic Dream: INDIGO PROPHECY .... it's SO MUCH BETTER than HR and when you finish it your opinion of HR will not be the same :roll:

I haven't herd any reviews about it. Like hardly anyone talks about it. I've asked people on ps3 if they have played it and only one person I know has played it, which was my step brother, whom I've never met, and he said it was really good so I tried it out and it was great. It's funny you say that, I actually just bought that game on ebay, still waiting for it to get here. I really liked HR so much, that I saw this looked a bit like it so, thought i'd try it out. Thanks for the tip! Can't wait to play Indigo Prophecy. :)

[Astrid.Hecate]

Agreed Heavy Rain is a masterpiece. Really pulls you in and tugs at you the whole time and gets you emotionally invested with the characters like only movies can do, but even more so as you struggle with the characters conflicts in real time.

Definitely one to be looked at on how to push gaming forward as a medium in general.

At least the medium needs to be evolved according to Roger Ebert, with whom I partly agree, yet not quite to the extreme that he goes when comparing motion pictures to videogames as an art form:



Guess he hasn't played Heavy Rain and whether any gamer wants to admit it or not being recognized as an art form comparable to films and books is a pretty necessary evolution for the medium to survive on a whole, doesn't mean you can't still play your Mario Bros. or Call fo Duty though, they just won't be considered "Criterion" material. :p

Yeah I totally agree with you. This should be the new way of gaming. I MISS the old adventure games, i'm tired of all these shooter games. They are fun, but not much of a game lol.

[Astrid.Hecate]

If barely interactive wannabe movies are 'pushing gaming forward as a medium in general' then I'm happy to go backwards.
Games shouldn't have to rely on scripts and plots; they should have a premise and game play that allows the gamer to create his own plot.

That's not to say Heavy Rain isn't a worthwhile experience. I don't know if there are any other games like it for the current generation, and the production values are good. I just don't see limited interactivity and linearity as progress.

Well, i'm just saying they should make more like it, give the games a variety of genres instead of all shooter games. Shooter games are fun, and online games are fun, but sometimes I just like to play games for itself. You like a lot of RPGs? Skyrim is a great game.

[Astrid.Hecate]

I never thought Heavy Rain was underrated, it always seemed to have high reviews.

I remember this article saying Deadly Premonition was better than Heavy Rain, saying Heavy Rain was overrated.
http://www.destructoid.com/deadly-premonition-is-blatantly-better-than-heavy-rain-165288.phtml

I must have missed all the reviews, it just seems like no one ever talks about it or knows about it anymore. I watched this trailer/game play for the Deadly Premonition, it looks like it's a bit slow, but perhaps the game itself is good. Is this it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFpYKx9m3NU

[Astrid.Hecate]

if you liked heavy rain.

Check out Indigo Prophecy Xbox/PS2 (i think u can play Indigo Prophecy on Xbox 360) or PC


Also next game coming out for PS3 Beyond:Twin Souls looks even more awesome =) than Heavy Rain.

Another person said the same thing. I'm defenetly looking forward to playing Indigo Prophecy when it comes though the mail. I've ordered it on ebay. The story looks great. I know i'm so looking forward to playing Beyond. Also, looking forward to the new Tomb Raider, i'm curious to see what they are going to do with it.

[Astrid.Hecate]

Got this as a gift from the Mrs. a while ago, hadn't had a chance to play it yet but hopefully will this week.

Mine was the Greatest Hits version with the Move stuff included. I can't find it listed anywhere on the packaging, so maybe someone that has used it could shed some light.

Does using the Move control setup require the additional nun-chuck attachment thing, Or just the main glowing personal-massager thing?

No, you don't have to have the Move stick thing. Your controller already has built in motion control, so when you play you can just use your ps3 controller. You just move it the way it tells you to. :D

[kupomogli]

Heavy Rain is overrated, no underrated @_@


you should give yourself the chance to play a real gem of Quantic Dream: INDIGO PROPHECY .... it's SO MUCH BETTER than HR and when you finish it your opinion of HR will not be the same :roll:

Heavy Rain was a great game from beginning to end. Indigo Prophecy was a great game for most of the game, and the last few parts of the game sucked.

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If you come across those that don't like Heavy Rain, you always hear that Heavy Rain doesn't have any gameplay. While it's true it lacks in the gameplay department, it clearly has gameplay, even if it is in confined locations that the game itself progresses you towards as well as a series of quick time events. People don't say Snatcher, King's Quest, Police Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, etc, doesn't have gameplay. Those games follow the exact same premise except they don't lead you automatically towards the next event. Heavy Rain is streamlined to where you don't have to keep going around in circles until you find the next location. Heavy Rain is also more detailed that if you do something wrong, it just affects the outcome rather than ending the game. In Police Quest 3, your first assignment is to bring in a naked guy in a park. You can shoot him at the very beginning which looks cool, but it's game over unless you club him in the stomach and cuff him. So Heavy Rain has its flaws, but it's a unique game in itself.

The other gameplay portion is the QTEs. Depending on how the game does it, I'm not really a fan of QTEs, however Heavy Rain is one of the games that does QTEs very well. First off, the gameplay is entirely comprised of QTEs. Whether it's using the right stick to open doors and pick up items, or it's repeatedly press between two buttons to get a character to run up a small hill, it's all you do during gameplay, during action sequences, etc. The other thing about the QTEs is that what's happening in the action and what you're required to press during a QTE is usually what you'd expect to press if you were to do this same action on another game. Not always, but usually, and because of this it sort of gives you the feeling that the actions you're taking are your own.

The storyline is amazing, though. The way the story develops, since you're the one in control of the characters and determining their fate, you care about these characters quite a bit more than you might have if you just saw it all in a movie.

Heavy Rain might be an easy game, but it's an amazing game. It'd be nice if Beyond Two Souls is as good and we don't just praise it on how great the graphics are, but from what we've seen, if that's the gameplay, it doesn't look very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KssKxul4VD4

[Astrid.Hecate]

Heavy Rain was a great game from beginning to end. Indigo Prophecy was a great game for most of the game, and the last few parts of the game sucked.

-

If you come across those that don't like Heavy Rain, you always hear that Heavy Rain doesn't have any gameplay. While it's true it lacks in the gameplay department, it clearly has gameplay, even if it is in confined locations that the game itself progresses you towards as well as a series of quick time events. People don't say Snatcher, King's Quest, Police Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, etc, doesn't have gameplay. Those games follow the exact same premise except they don't lead you automatically towards the next event. Heavy Rain is streamlined to where you don't have to keep going around in circles until you find the next location. Heavy Rain is also more detailed that if you do something wrong, it just affects the outcome rather than ending the game. In Police Quest 3, your first assignment is to bring in a naked guy in a park. You can shoot him at the very beginning which looks cool, but it's game over unless you club him in the stomach and cuff him. So Heavy Rain has its flaws, but it's a unique game in itself.

The other gameplay portion is the QTEs. Depending on how the game does it, I'm not really a fan of QTEs, however Heavy Rain is one of the games that does QTEs very well. First off, the gameplay is entirely comprised of QTEs. Whether it's using the right stick to open doors and pick up items, or it's repeatedly press between two buttons to get a character to run up a small hill, it's all you do during gameplay, during action sequences, etc. The other thing about the QTEs is that what's happening in the action and what you're required to press during a QTE is usually what you'd expect to press if you were to do this same action on another game. Not always, but usually, and because of this it sort of gives you the feeling that the actions you're taking are your own.

The storyline is amazing, though. The way the story develops, since you're the one in control of the characters and determining their fate, you care about these characters quite a bit more than you might have if you just saw it all in a movie.

Heavy Rain might be an easy game, but it's an amazing game. It'd be nice if Beyond Two Souls is as good and we don't just praise it on how great the graphics are, but from what we've seen, if that's the gameplay, it doesn't look very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KssKxul4VD4

I know you were just responding to someone else, but wow, thanks for that video! Looks amazing!

[Ryudo]

Cage is a pretentious narcissistic cunt who has added nothing to gaming. Just making shit versions of already existing genres and making it pure crap. He and his so called "games" are the most overrated piles of shit. IP is the worst thing I ever played and I played Superman 64,LJN games and own ET on Atari. I always wonder how shit like this sells but Shenmue was bought by no one.

[Ryudo]

I played this for like 2 hours and was very, very, bored. :(

I wanted it to be good.

Someone with taste and does nit buy into Cages Bullshit

[Daltone]

Could you explain a bit more?


Farenheit / Indigo Prophecy got moving an awful lot quicker. That whole section a the start of Heavy Rain where you have to (really slowly) walk around the apartment doing mundane stuff nearly had me turning the game off. It may be because I have played the former game quite a bit, so I aleady knew how the controls work.

My brother worked at Sony in Wavertree as a tester (before he got a real job) and can pretty much complete Heavy Rain in his sleep. They went through the initial release loads of times, then just when hey though it was all over, they had to do the Move version. When the move version was done they all got an email saying that they wouldn't be listed in the credits as testers because they were agency staff. I think that it is fair to say that he hates the game.

[Daltone]

Cage is a pretentious narcissistic cunt who has added nothing to gaming. Just making shit versions of already existing genres and making it pure crap..... I always wonder how shit like this sells but Shenmue was bought by no one.

Ok, I thought The Nomad Soul / Farenheit / Heavy Rain were similar in game play to Shenmue! I though the dialogue system in the latter two was far superior, The Nomad Soul has an excellent open world and mixed gameplay styles. Ok, by the time HR came around Cage's head was getting worryingly far up his own arse, but let's not forget that Shenmue was a game that made me move crates, carry piles of books and hang about outside virtual nightclubs for ages waiting until 1am whilst asking every available passer by if they "know where SAILORS hang out?"

Now, I like Shenmue, don't get me wrong, but if anything it was even more plodding than HR in places. The main difference between the two (in my blinkered eyes) is that Shenmue was more open world, where as Farenheit and HR confined you to individual "scenes" (although he Nomad Soul was completely open world - so Cage can let you wander if he wants.)

Anyway, the sooner people realise that the later Tex Murphy series (Under a Killing Moon, Pandora and Overseer) represent the high point in adventure gaming (how good is that 3D engine for its time?) the better!

[IHatedSega]

Cage is a pretentious narcissistic cunt who has added nothing to gaming.

The word pretentious is used too much in film. I think if you watch the video I posted earlier in this thread youd see he has his head on straight about video games. His speech had a lot in common with videos the Game Overthinker has made. Im going to play IP soon, I hope Ill like it, Im interested in the depressed character who may kill himself if you dont keep his level up, thats a cool character Ive never seen in a game.

[Astrid.Hecate]

Farenheit / Indigo Prophecy got moving an awful lot quicker. That whole section a the start of Heavy Rain where you have to (really slowly) walk around the apartment doing mundane stuff nearly had me turning the game off. It may be because I have played the former game quite a bit, so I aleady knew how the controls work.

My brother worked at Sony in Wavertree as a tester (before he got a real job) and can pretty much complete Heavy Rain in his sleep. They went through the initial release loads of times, then just when hey though it was all over, they had to do the Move version. When the move version was done they all got an email saying that they wouldn't be listed in the credits as testers because they were agency staff. I think that it is fair to say that he hates the game.

Oh, I see i'm sorry to hear that. I don't know, I thought it was interesting enough, to play the whole game and try the different endings. For a great starter game, I thought. For ten bucks, I really couldn't complain, I though it was great for the price. Also, for the game itself, a new type of gaming. Perhaps, in the near future they can do more like them, to improve the style of gaming. I'm getting kind of bored with shooter games. lol.

[Astrid.Hecate]

Ok, I thought The Nomad Soul / Farenheit / Heavy Rain were similar in game play to Shenmue! I though the dialogue system in the latter two was far superior, The Nomad Soul has an excellent open world and mixed gameplay styles. Ok, by the time HR came around Cage's head was getting worryingly far up his own arse, but let's not forget that Shenmue was a game that made me move crates, carry piles of books and hang about outside virtual nightclubs for ages waiting until 1am whilst asking every available passer by if they "know where SAILORS hang out?"

Now, I like Shenmue, don't get me wrong, but if anything it was even more plodding than HR in places. The main difference between the two (in my blinkered eyes) is that Shenmue was more open world, where as Farenheit and HR confined you to individual "scenes" (although he Nomad Soul was completely open world - so Cage can let you wander if he wants.)

Anyway, the sooner people realise that the later Tex Murphy series (Under a Killing Moon, Pandora and Overseer) represent the high point in adventure gaming (how good is that 3D engine for its time?) the better!

Very well said. :)

[Astrid.Hecate]

Cage is a pretentious narcissistic cunt who has added nothing to gaming. Just making shit versions of already existing genres and making it pure crap. He and his so called "games" are the most overrated piles of shit. IP is the worst thing I ever played and I played Superman 64,LJN games and own ET on Atari. I always wonder how shit like this sells but Shenmue was bought by no one.

Stop being a spoiled little rich troll. :puke:

[Daltone]

Oh, I see i'm sorry to hear that. I don't know, I thought it was interesting enough, to play the whole game and try the different endings. For a great starter game, I thought. For ten bucks, I really couldn't complain, I though it was great for the price. Also, for the game itself, a new type of gaming. Perhaps, in the near future they can do more like them, to improve the style of gaming. I'm getting kind of bored with shooter games. lol.

Just out of interest - other than apparently having an interest in Witchcraft you aren't also French and working for David Cage are you? Or do you just really love Heavy Rain?

[GhostDog]

Didn't this game sell over a million copies and get awesome reviews? Sure, it may not be the most well-known game but I don't think it's underrated.

[IHatedSega]

Just out of interest - other than apparently having an interest in Witchcraft you aren't also French and working for David Cage are you? Or do you just really love Heavy Rain?



She really loved this game, and joined here to talk about it. She hit the wall on FPS games the other night, so shes really loving it more now.

And dont worry I told her she doesnt have to make a new post to reply to one person, or she needs to reply to everyone. Shes used to another board.

[Daltone]

Nope, she lives in Ohio and sounds Canadian or Minnesotan.

She really loved this game, and joined here to talk about it. She hit the wall on FPS games the other night, so shes really loving it more now.

And dont worry I told her she doesnt have to make a new post to reply to one person, or she needs to reply to everyone. Shes used to Gaia.

I'm not having a go - she must really like it!

....Now go and play Tex Murphy.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I'll just leave this gem here...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP30WYgYiUI

[The 1 2 P]

Nope, she lives in Ohio and sounds Canadian or Minnesotan.

So this is the Skyrim chic?

[xelement5x]

I'll just leave this gem here...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP30WYgYiUI

Okay, so that was totally worth revisiting this thread over!

[Astrid.Hecate]

Just out of interest - other than apparently having an interest in Witchcraft you aren't also French and working for David Cage are you? Or do you just really love Heavy Rain?

No, i'm not French, i'm from the USA. And I don't work for David Cage, although if I got offered a job there I wouldn't refuse. lol.

[Astrid.Hecate]

Didn't this game sell over a million copies and get awesome reviews? Sure, it may not be the most well-known game but I don't think it's underrated.

Well, what I mean is that no one really talks about it. Not many people know about it. Maybe it's popular in another country than the US. I mean I really liked Batman Arkham Asylum and everyone talks how great it is, but nobody seems to know what Heavy Rain was.

[Astrid.Hecate]

I'll just leave this gem here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP30WYgYiUI

That's funny. What was this for?

[Astrid.Hecate]

So this is the Skyrim chic?

Just for the record, I do NOT sound Canadian or Minnesotan.

[kedawa]

Sounding 'canadian' could mean just about anything. We have more accents than we do provinces.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

That's funny. What was this for?

The enjoyment of millions of viewers.

MEGA64 have made a career out of public nuisance/theater of living video game art since 2004

Check them out!

http://mega64.com/videos/

[Daltone]

The enjoyment of millions of viewers.

MEGA64 have made a career out of public nuisance/theater of living video game art since 2004

Check them out!

http://mega64.com/videos/

I seem to remember a very good MGS one with a cardboard box

[Daltone]

No, i'm not French, i'm from the USA. And I don't work for David Cage, although if I got offered a job there I wouldn't refuse. lol.

Get the old CV in! - http://www.quanticdream.com/en/recrutement

[Vkmies]

While the game has a litany of crippling problems, in the end, my experience with it was overall a positive one.

It gets a lot of flack and hate, and for good reasons, but I don't think the game is really as bad as many people make it out to be.

I get if it's not your thing, that's cool, but I think it was an interesting experiment and worth a playthrough for sure.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I seem to remember a very good MGS one with a cardboard box

This one is even better...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ZFA4me4iw

"Larry, cancel all my appointments."

[IHatedSega]

nevermind

[Az]

No, you don't have to have the Move stick thing. Your controller already has built in motion control, so when you play you can just use your ps3 controller. You just move it the way it tells you to. :D

I understand that I can use the regular controller, what I mean is if I choose to use the Move setup, does it require a two piece setup with the nun-chuck attachment thing? Or am I good to go with just the wand?

[Astrid.Hecate]

This one is even better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2ZFA4me4iw

"Larry, cancel all my appointments."

Oh yeah, I saw that a while back. It was pretty funny.

[Astrid.Hecate]

I understand that I can use the regular controller, what I mean is if I choose to use the Move setup, does it require a two piece setup with the nun-chuck attachment thing? Or am I good to go with just the wand?

It says you only need the Motion controller with the PS Eye.

6326

[Az]

It says you only need the Motion controller with the PS Eye.

6326

Well I just tried this, and if anyone else is interested you do have to own the navigation controller (or whatever its called) attachment to use the Move setup.

[kupomogli]

If you own a PS3 controller you could use that instead of the navigation controller. But yeah, whether it's the navigation controller or PS3 controller, you can't play the game with just the Move. You need some way to move around.

[BlastProcessing402]

I liked the game until the reveal of who the origami killer was, then I was just :bad-words:

***spoilers, highlight section to read***
It makes no sense, in order for him to be the killer, he would had to have done things (like kill the typewriter store guy) WHILE you were controlling him, yet you had no knowledge of this, that's just not a fair move on the dev's part
***end spoilers***

I'd planned on replaying it a bunch to see the various ending changes, but after that reveal, I could barely stomach finishing it the first time and haven't played since.