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Black Toast
02-27-2013, 07:23 PM
Hello! , Yes i'm new here but i have a question about a sealed Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask i've purchased on ebay.
I'm not a expert on this type of thing BUT, can anyone approve of this being factory sealed?

I've Heard if you look on the side and its curved, its factory sealed. What do you guys think?
Thanks!~

Ebay can be a little tricky.

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/boxcarjakey/IMG_02711_zps624a72b4.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/boxcarjakey/IMG_02731_zpsc7c10f02.jpg



From recent post. NO THIS BOX IS IN PERFECT CONDITION! NOTHING IS DAMAGED. THE PLASTIC REFLECTS OFF THE BRIGHT LIGHTING!
Just so no one posts this again
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/boxcarjakey/IMG_02761_zps99cf48a3.jpg

Bojay1997
02-27-2013, 07:44 PM
The answer is maybe, but in that condition, who cares? The game was sold in both a version with the standard Nintendo Horizontal seam seal and one that has an overlap vertical seal in the back. Yours appears to be the latter which is less valuable, but given the severe denting and crushing on the box, I'm not really sure why it matters. It's not a super valuable piece in that shape anyway, so you're safe to open it and enjoy it.

Black Toast
02-27-2013, 07:48 PM
The answer is maybe, but in that condition, who cares? The game was sold in both a version with the standard Nintendo Horizontal seam seal and one that has an overlap vertical seal in the back. Yours appears to be the latter which is less valuable, but given the severe denting and crushing on the box, I'm not really sure why it matters. It's not a super valuable piece in that shape anyway, so you're safe to open it and enjoy it.

There is no crushing that's just the plastic reflecting off the bright light it was placed under. the little bumps from the sealing makes this effect. i just looked real close at the box and examined the whole thing and nothing is crushed or scratched or bent!

Also the overlap seal is on every single sealed n64 box. I've seen multiple boxes with the same exact thing so..
:|
I just want approval please.

bb_hood
02-27-2013, 08:51 PM
where is the seal line? do you have a picture of that? Are the tiny cardboard tabs on the flaps bent or smushed in any way? If they are its been opened for sure, cant tell from pics though. Also look for crease where either flap would open, it can be pretty obvious sometimes..

Black Toast
02-27-2013, 09:04 PM
where is the seal line? do you have a picture of that? Are the tiny cardboard tabs on the flaps bent or smushed in any way? If they are its been opened for sure, cant tell from pics though. Also look for crease where either flap would open, it can be pretty obvious sometimes..

The cardboard flaps i examined very closely and didn't find any bends or anything.
the seal line was very hard to take a picture of since the lightings didn't seem to help so this is the best i got.
You can see the line going down the middile a little... might also be warped too from the sealing but i don't know.

I Circled it for you xD

also thanks for posting and helping me! :-)



http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/boxcarjakey/IMG_02821_zps8cd88dd2.jpg

Black Toast
02-27-2013, 09:12 PM
Uhmm double post sorry.

Jack_Burton_BYOAC
02-27-2013, 09:18 PM
It looks legit to me.

bb_hood
02-27-2013, 09:18 PM
From looking at the pictures I would say its most likely authentic, but its hard to judge something from pictures.
The key really is looking at the cardboard flaps and corners. You gotta look and see if there is ANY evidence of the cardboard box being opened at all. You can spot a re-sealed snes game a mile away, the boxes are solid black and creases appear very obvious.. n64 is slightly more tough.
Also the bending of the endflaps is explainable by the plastic wrap hugging the box for so long. Ive seen this in many sealed and unsealed games though, its nothing to go by. Ive found many complete n64games where the previous owner only slit the plastic, and opened the box. These are the ones people re-seal though, they have had the plastic on for years so the rest of the box can look new. The key is the flaps.

Black Toast
02-27-2013, 09:34 PM
From looking at the pictures I would say its most likely authentic, but its hard to judge something from pictures.
The key really is looking at the cardboard flaps and corners. You gotta look and see if there is ANY evidence of the cardboard box being opened at all. You can spot a re-sealed snes game a mile away, the boxes are solid black and creases appear very obvious.. n64 is slightly more tough.
Also the bending of the endflaps is explainable by the plastic wrap hugging the box for so long. Ive seen this in many sealed and unsealed games though, its nothing to go by. Ive found many complete n64games where the previous owner only slit the plastic, and opened the box. These are the ones people re-seal though, they have had the plastic on for years so the rest of the box can look new. The key is the flaps.

thanks for the advice, ill sure be looking into this on my next purchase. the flaps to me look perfect, ( but i get a real close up view in real life so obviously i'd see more clearer than a picture. ) ill go with it being authentic too. Thanks!

Bojay1997
02-27-2013, 09:44 PM
There is no crushing that's just the plastic reflecting off the bright light it was placed under. the little bumps from the sealing makes this effect. i just looked real close at the box and examined the whole thing and nothing is crushed or scratched or bent!

Also the overlap seal is on every single sealed n64 box. I've seen multiple boxes with the same exact thing so..
:|
I just want approval please.

Incorrect. There are two kinds of N64 seals. The overlap seal that you have and a more traditional seam seal that Nintendo has used on its boxed games since the NES. I've been a sealed game collector for many years and I can tell you that the game you have there is damaged. The side photo shows it best. There should be no U shaped dip or compression along the flap side of the box. It should be one uniform perfect section. If you're going to spend the kind of money to collect sealed games, you need to learn a lot more about it before you waste your money. I suspect this would grade no better than an 80 through VGA and probably lower.

Jack_Burton_BYOAC
02-27-2013, 10:20 PM
I don't think it's a waste of money to buy a sealed game in poor condition. It's all about how much you pay for it.

I'd take an unopened, slightly squashed Majora's Mask over a mint opened one if only to get the experience of ripping the shrink wrap off to play it.

Black Toast
02-28-2013, 03:21 PM
Incorrect. There are two kinds of N64 seals. The overlap seal that you have and a more traditional seam seal that Nintendo has used on its boxed games since the NES. I've been a sealed game collector for many years and I can tell you that the game you have there is damaged. The side photo shows it best. There should be no U shaped dip or compression along the flap side of the box. It should be one uniform perfect section. If you're going to spend the kind of money to collect sealed games, you need to learn a lot more about it before you waste your money. I suspect this would grade no better than an 80 through VGA and probably lower.

Dude its not damaged in any way shape or form!! Its The PLASTIC REFLECTING.

I have looked ALL OVER THIS BOX THERE IS NO SIGN OF DAMAGE ON THE SIDES OR FRONT, TOP AND BOTTOM!!!

you cant see it in real life like me so sorry.. if so you would see nothing it wrong with it!!!!!!!!

Black Toast
02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
I even took another picture with different lighting Just For YOU



If you say its in poor condition again i'm gonna take it your just trying to make me mad.

So if you look. YOU CAN SEE THE PLASTIC THAT IS WAVEY ON THE SIDE LIKE ANY OTHER BOX just look at these two pictures. it also has the curved side, from it being wrapped so long ( learning from recent post )


http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/boxcarjakey/IMG_02861_zps999805e3.jpg



Heres some circles to so you the plastic making this effect

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/boxcarjakey/IMG_02861_zps027728a2.jpg

I have proved my point.

CRTGAMER
02-28-2013, 04:23 PM
Even if this is legit, would you really want to take a chance and keep it sealed? What if the game is defective or if not factory seal, there is just folded up cardboard inside? Nobody will retire investing in video games, so open it up and play it! Now is the time to confirm and not twenty years later when the game will become very difficult to find.

Black Toast
02-28-2013, 04:31 PM
Even if this is legit, would you really want to take a chance and keep it sealed? What if the game is defective or if not factory seal, there is just folded up cardboard inside? Nobody will retire investing in video games, so open it up and play it! Now is the time to confirm and not twenty years later when the game will become very difficult to find.

I'm gonna keep it sealed but i am planning to buy just the cartridge to play the game.. and a custom case, if anyone some day opens this and find its real, and was in a sealed box then the price would drop a lot.

Practically goes for every sealed game. i'm thinking its authentic because of its amazing condition and the way its sealed Also its weight.

Thanks Though!~

Bojay1997
02-28-2013, 06:03 PM
Dude its not damaged in any way shape or form!! Its The PLASTIC REFLECTING.

I have looked ALL OVER THIS BOX THERE IS NO SIGN OF DAMAGE ON THE SIDES OR FRONT, TOP AND BOTTOM!!!

you cant see it in real life like me so sorry.. if so you would see nothing it wrong with it!!!!!!!!

Frankly, I don't care what you think. I can tell you that I've been collecting video games and sealed games in particular for over 20 years and the game you have posted photos of has damage. It should not be bowed in the middle like even your follow-up pictures are showing. It was probably stored improperly at some point which led to the damage. If you're going to expend the large sums of money collecting sealed games involves currently, you need to really be aware of what you are buying before you buy it.

eskobar
02-28-2013, 06:26 PM
Dude, the box is bended .... it's not a picture effect :popcorn:

Black Toast
02-28-2013, 06:54 PM
Dude, the box is bended .... it's not a picture effect :popcorn:

That wasn't what i was talking about but anyways that's just one tiny flaw it won't screw up the value that much at all. i'm not looking for this to be like vga graded or sum crap.

eskobar
02-28-2013, 06:58 PM
That wasn't what i was talking about but anyways that's just one tiny flaw it won't screw up the value that much at all. i'm not looking for this to be like vga graded or sum crap.

sorry, my mistake.

good luck on the grading !

Black Toast
02-28-2013, 06:59 PM
Well i'm done with this thread. All i know if that there is one little flaw of the box being slightly curved, ( Also i only paid 110$ so who cares, it was bound to happen :roll: ) i'm very happy with my purchase and ill save it in my collection for years to come, i know the value of these sealed games are gonna go up year by year.

Thanks everyone~

camarotuner
02-28-2013, 11:21 PM
Can we add this thread to the "person comes in for opinions, doesn't like opinions, throws hissy fit and leaves" club?

Loganm187
03-01-2013, 12:49 AM
Couldn't agree more. I felt as if I was being screamed at for just reading the thread...

o.pwuaioc
03-01-2013, 01:15 AM
Couldn't agree more. I felt as if I was being screamed at for just reading the thread...

If you're reading this, you're probably making him mad. :roll:

tom
03-01-2013, 10:04 AM
I was getting my corn popped just in case

xelement5x
03-01-2013, 02:35 PM
That wasn't what i was talking about but anyways that's just one tiny flaw it won't screw up the value that much at all. i'm not looking for this to be like vga graded or sum crap.


sorry, my mistake.

good luck on the grading !

At this point, I can't tell who is trolling whom here.....

Black Toast
03-01-2013, 03:46 PM
LOL Fuck You All, You all can suck my dick you ass licking faggots :D :ass::ass::ass::ass::ass::ass::ass::ass::ass::ass: :ass:

http://mundabor.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/judge_you_are_a_faggot.jpg

camarotuner
03-01-2013, 05:19 PM
Awww someone's feelings got hurt when he found out his 110 dollar game is worth less than that let alone the "great investment/score" he thought it was.

Black Toast
03-01-2013, 05:35 PM
Awww someone's feelings got hurt when he found out his 110 dollar game is worth less than that let alone the "great investment/score" he thought it was.

why would my feelings be hurt when i know that the value isn't hurt at all. about twenty years from now the value will sky rocket, i've asked like 20 other forums and this is the only one saying the value will go down. so uhmm shut the fuck up and i will keep this in my collection and i will own a game worth good money!

Suck It!

i'm not even gonna look on this forum again. i will trust others!

mailman187666
03-01-2013, 10:05 PM
Please lock. Game collecting isnt about this, nor is digital press. When I started collecting in 2005, I wished i had held onto more of my older games. Now in 2013, I wish collecting was the same as it was in 2005.

Gameguy
03-01-2013, 10:30 PM
about twenty years from now the value will sky rocket
In twenty years I doubt this hobby will still be as popular as it is now, at the very least people will be focused on newer systems than the N64. The N64 is peaking around now. Plenty of sealed Atari games are selling for under $20 in perfect shape and those are even older, I can't see this somewhat common game becoming super valuable.

All this talk about games appreciating in value forever just reminds me of something else.


http://i49.tinypic.com/27y7ev8.gif

o.pwuaioc
03-01-2013, 11:01 PM
^Excellent analogy. Ultimately, the price of rare games is fragile, and like beanie babies, doesn't have any intrinsic value in and of itself. I sure hope no one is thinking that they can sell all their games in 20 years for a nest egg.

bb_hood
03-02-2013, 12:28 AM
In twenty years I doubt this hobby will still be as popular as it is now,



I actually think in 10-20 years the hobby will become much more popular. Buying collectibles as an investment is generally a fools game, but I really think that alot of stuff will just get alot more expensive. The idea that all of a sudden everybody will lose interest in collecting old video games at once resulting in a huge drop in ebay prices is just wishful thinking. Im not saying it cant happen, but I really dont see people losing interest in collecting cartridge games.

Tenjikuronin
03-02-2013, 02:37 AM
"My poly bagged Mint copy of Superman #75 will never go down in value, I can sell it in 20 years for a HUGE profit".......said delusional comic book collectors circa 1993.


Side Note......20 years later the book sells for a high of 25 cents....

wiggyx
03-02-2013, 10:15 PM
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/wiggyx/bentboxisbent_zpsc973a5e9.jpg

isufje
03-03-2013, 03:52 PM
Did i make it? Am i in before the lock ;)