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Kitsune Sniper
03-22-2013, 01:18 PM
DUCK TALES REMAKE

DUCK TALES REMAKE

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/22/4135724/ducktales-remastered-capcom-wayforward-pax-east-2013

I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Urzu402
03-22-2013, 01:20 PM
Damn I made my thread a tad bit late, but this looks good.

Kitsune Sniper
03-22-2013, 01:25 PM
That's the thing... it doesn't.

The 3D stuff looks completely wrong. The sprites are great, but those stages, and those diamonds... just... no. :\

But at least the music won't suck.

kupomogli
03-22-2013, 01:26 PM
It actually looked really good. Disappointed that it's digital, but how good Duck Tales is and how good this looked, I'll probably get it once it gets a sale for around $5 in the future.

recorderdude
03-22-2013, 01:50 PM
being streamed live, RIGHT NOW:

http://www.twitch.tv/capcomunity

InsaneDavid
03-22-2013, 02:08 PM
That's the thing... it doesn't.

The 3D stuff looks completely wrong. The sprites are great, but those stages, and those diamonds... just... no. :\

But at least the music won't suck.

I'm in full agreement. Damn though, those sprites are nice.

Dr. BaconStein
03-22-2013, 02:12 PM
Well, that was the most pretentious trailer I've ever seen.

I don't like where this is going. It feels way too commercial already. Like, the literal definition of overselling it.

Bojay1997
03-22-2013, 02:16 PM
Well, that was the most pretentious trailer I've ever seen.

I don't like where this is going. It feels way too commercial already.

Way too "commercial"? It's a remake of a game based on a cartoon that was created solely to cash in on that cartoon. Miraculously the game turned out great, but there could be no more commercial product than Ducktales.

recorderdude
03-22-2013, 02:17 PM
Livestream confirmed that ALL the original voice actors will be playing their roles in the game. They're going for the nostalgia and hitting it HARD.

Tupin
03-22-2013, 02:31 PM
Capcom must be incredibly desperate.

I'll still give it a chance, though.

Kitsune Sniper
03-22-2013, 02:32 PM
Capcom must be incredibly desperate.

I'll still give it a chance, though.

Retro nostalgia is in right now.

I'm still hoping for a PC version. :(

recorderdude
03-22-2013, 04:02 PM
So yeah, besides looking pretty good, this will probably apply to us as prices for (at least the NES version of) DuckTales are likely to skyrocket real soon. If it's a game you want in your collection, get it now before that happens or wait it out for the hype to die down later this year.

Graham Mitchell
03-22-2013, 04:38 PM
This is not one I ever expected them to revisit. Is there any reason to get this other than the improved visuals? I've played the nes game to the point that its not even fun anymore.

That said, way forward usually does an awesome job with this stuff.

kainemaxwell
03-22-2013, 04:53 PM
Want to get so much...

recorderdude
03-22-2013, 05:00 PM
This is not one I ever expected them to revisit. Is there any reason to get this other than the improved visuals? I've played the nes game to the point that its not even fun anymore.

That said, way forward usually does an awesome job with this stuff.

The enhanced plot, voice acting, and newly designed levels to be included with the originals should help with that.

Kitsune Sniper
03-22-2013, 07:11 PM
And apparently this is just them testing the waters. They might do other games depending on how this goes.

The 1 2 P
03-22-2013, 07:29 PM
The intro music got me pumped as I literally haven't heard it for well over a decade. I'm definitely getting this but I don't know rather I'll pick it up at launch or wait for it to be 50% off during XBL's holiday sale later in the year.

spman
03-22-2013, 07:54 PM
I'm actually at this show where this was announced as I type this, and I played the game this afternoon. It plays very well, just like the original, I am very used to the control mechanics of the NES game and stepped into this one with no problem. The graphics need some repolishing, but from what I played, this was fantastic.

Leo_A
03-22-2013, 08:37 PM
I wonder if Alan Young (Mister Ed's owner) will do the voicework again for Uncle Scrooge.

I wonder who else is really old at this point or gone that did voicework for the cartoon. I know Hal Smith that voiced Gyro Gearloose has passed away (Better known as Otis Campbell on The Andy Griffith Show).


Way too "commercial"? It's a remake of a game based on a cartoon that was created solely to cash in on that cartoon. Miraculously the game turned out great, but there could be no more commercial product than Ducktales.

And this doesn't make a lick of sense.

recorderdude
03-22-2013, 08:38 PM
I wonder if Alan Young will do the voicework for Uncle Scrooge.

He is. I heard him in one of the cutscenes during the livestream and it sounds just like the show. Helps they confirmed during said stream that ALL the original VAs were returning too.

Darkwing
03-22-2013, 08:40 PM
From those live streaming videos, you could hear the voices in the background. Not bad! Especially not bad for Scrooge, since Alan Young is 93 years old.

Leo_A
03-22-2013, 08:46 PM
He is. I heard him in one of the cutscenes during the livestream and it sounds just like the show. Helps they confirmed during said stream that ALL the original VAs were returning too.

That will be impossibe since several voice actors for important characters on the show have passed away (Hal Smith that voiced Gyro and Flintheart Glomgold who was one of the primary villains, for instance). And while I hope they ignore the later additions to the cast, the actor that did the voicework for Fenton Crackshell/Gizmo Duck) has passed away. He certainly was an important character for the last 1/3 or so of the show's run.

And quite a few are up there in the years. The actress that did the voicework for Magica De Spell, another important villain, is even older than Alan Young and quite possibly unavailable or sounding very different if she is willing to participate. I hope there's more than just the Beagle Boys in here for villains to go up against since they were the least interesting of the bunch.

spman
03-22-2013, 08:53 PM
Alan Young is well into his 90's, but still in good health and continues to work from time to time. His book Mister Ed and Me is very entertaining if ever you want to learn more about the guy.

CDiablo
03-22-2013, 09:12 PM
Im pretty psyched for this, mastered this game as a child, and cant wait to do so again. I dont like to spend more than $7 on XBL games so It will be a long time till I can play.

Leo_A
03-22-2013, 09:48 PM
Any word on including the original NES games as part of the package (Probably not much hope that they'd also release the two GameBoy efforts as well, but that would be even nicer to see all four be included)?

It would be ashame to see this rare opportunity pass to get some of Capcom's classic library of licensed games out while they had a chance. At the very least while they have this license, I hope they make their way to Nintendo's digital Virtual Console service even though I wouldn't bother paying to download them.

Jorpho
03-22-2013, 09:50 PM
Well, that was the most pretentious trailer I've ever seen.Aye, 50 seconds before they finally get around to the gameplay is not a good sign. I am easily reminded of one of the early trailers for Goldeneye Reloaded (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?145222-GoldenEye-remake-for-Wii-DS-out-this-fall/page2).

I don't much care for how empty all the stages look, too.


Capcom must be incredibly desperate.My thoughts exactly. On the other hand, if it sells really well, there's always that faint hope that McDuck might finally appear in Marvel vs Capcom, amirite?

Besides, Wayforward doesn't have much of a tendency to drop the ball, do they?

Kitsune Sniper
03-22-2013, 10:45 PM
That will be impossibe since several voice actors for important characters on the show have passed away (Hal Smith that voiced Gyro and Flintheart Glomgold who was one of the primary villains, for instance). And while I hope they ignore the later additions to the cast, the actor that did the voicework for Fenton Crackshell/Gizmo Duck) has passed away. He certainly was an important character for the last 1/3 or so of the show's run.

And quite a few are up there in the years. The actress that did the voicework for Magica De Spell, another important villain, is even older than Alan Young and quite possibly unavailable or sounding very different if she is willing to participate. I hope there's more than just the Beagle Boys in here for villains to go up against since they were the least interesting of the bunch.

Gizmo Duck and Flintheart Glomgold were in the game. Even Bubba the Caveduck was. Flintheart only made an appearance in the very last segment of the game, if I remember correctly.

I'm a bit annoyed that there was no footage of the Amazon and Moon stages (and very little of the mines), so I hope they polish things up right.

WayForward has -really- matured into one of the best independent developers out there.

VG_Maniac
03-22-2013, 10:59 PM
I'm definitely looking forward to this, as Ducktales is one of my favorite NES games. If this game does very well, it may open the door for more Capcom remakes like this...maybe Rescue Rangers, or even Little Nemo!



This is not one I ever expected them to revisit. Is there any reason to get this other than the improved visuals? I've played the nes game to the point that its not even fun anymore.

That said, way forward usually does an awesome job with this stuff.

The levels look like they've really been expanded on, as well as the boss battles. Plus, there is at least one new level (the money bin level in the trailer was not in the original game).


And quite a few are up there in the years. The actress that did the voicework for Magica De Spell, another important villain, is even older than Alan Young and quite possibly unavailable or sounding very different if she is willing to participate.

Sounds like she's in the game. If you watch the streaming video from earlier today where they fight Magica, it sounds like her voice. Kind of hard to hear through all the crowd noise though, but even the guys playing mention that it's still her doing the voice.

Gameguy
03-23-2013, 12:02 AM
Way too "commercial"? It's a remake of a game based on a cartoon that was created solely to cash in on that cartoon. Miraculously the game turned out great, but there could be no more commercial product than Ducktales.
You could have kept going a bit. It's a remake of a game based on a cartoon based on a comic book series based on a spinoff character from another comic book series.


If anything maybe Disney will finally release the last volume of the show on DVD since they forgot about it years ago.

Leo_A
03-23-2013, 12:48 AM
Like just mentioned, Disney needs to take advantage of this opportunity themselves and finish DuckTales on DVD now that this is giving the franchise some attention. It was one release shy of completion with 75% of its 100 episodes out in three volumes. But Disney cancelled things like this back in 2008 leaving this series, TaleSpin, Chip 'n' Dale's Rescue Rangers, and probably several others of their 1980's and early 90's tv cartoon series just shy of completion.



Sounds like she's in the game. If you watch the streaming video from earlier today where they fight Magica, it sounds like her voice. Kind of hard to hear through all the crowd noise though, but even the guys playing mention that it's still her doing the voice.

That's good to know (And even better to hear from someone else that Alan Young is doing well and is involved with this project).

Nothing hurts something like this more than a replacement being used that doesn't sound correct. While it's possible to get a replacement that can do a convincing job with a unique voice, often it comes out sounding like a lot of Peanuts animation from the mid 1970's onwards where characters like Charlie Brown often just don't sound right.

I would think in instances where a compromise has to be made that the cartoon series would be a goldmine of voice bits that could be utilized in a pinch if Disney and the voice artists or their estates in a few unfortunate instances granted permission. Gyro was a frequent character on the cartoon for instance if they needed to go back and utilize some of those assets due to the voice artist passing away. But I imagine that Disney is pretty picky and protective so that might not be a possibility open to Capcom.

VG_Maniac
03-23-2013, 01:48 AM
Like just mentioned, Disney needs to take advantage of this opportunity themselves and finish DuckTales on DVD now that this is giving the franchise some attention. It was one release shy of completion with 75% of its 100 episodes out in three volumes. But Disney cancelled things like this back in 2008 leaving this series, TaleSpin, Chip 'n' Dale's Rescue Rangers, and probably several others of their 1980's and early 90's tv cartoon series just shy of completion.

Yeah, I don't know why they just stopped releasing new volumes for those shows when they were almost done. Warner Bros. did the same thing with Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs...although they finally put out new DVDs for them just recently (Animaniacs is now finished, and Tiny Toons still has a few episodes left). Another show that was put on hiatus for a long time, but was finally completed is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Leo_A
03-23-2013, 01:59 AM
There's at least some hope. I'm pretty sure I saw on TVShowsOnDVD.com or the HomeTheaterForum within the past 6 months that one of these stalled Disney cartoon series from that era was scheduled for another release. Wasn't a title that interested me though. But if they ever finish DuckTales, TaleSpin, and Rescue Rangers, I'd be in for all three.

The real crime though was the end of the Disney Treasures lineup right around the same time. But at least I have what they did put out along with their classic animated feature films, virtually all of their live action productions from the 50's through the 70's before they started sucking in the 80's with stuff like Tron (Although the transfers for many were unrestored and often were pan & scan for the widescreen films), and most of DuckTales/TaleSpin/Rescue Rangers. Not to mention some miscellaneous releases that weren't part of larger release programs.

Edit: According to Wikipeda, nothing came of it. But the second half of season 2 for the Gargoyles and season 3 were on a tentative schedule last summer giving some hope that several of these other releases continue to be under consideration.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/315576-gargoyles-season-2-volume-2-and-gargoyles-season-3-dvd-releases/?hl=ducktales#entry3833308

JSoup
03-23-2013, 02:14 AM
Nice, I'll definitely be getting it once it's out. I was hoping to hear some of the remixed themes, particularly so since all the streamed gameplay was of my favorite level. The inclusion of the original voice actors is a lovely addition, I noticed it before it was said ("Is....is that actually Magica's voice? Holy shit, it is.").

Tron 2.0
03-23-2013, 03:04 AM
Good thing wayforward is using sprites for characters in this ducktales remake.Unlike,what they did with dd neon but i did enjoy the game.Any ways with both dungeons and dragons coming and now this update to ducktales,i can safely say shut-up and take my $$$$!

joshnickerson
03-23-2013, 11:04 AM
I wonder who else is really old at this point or gone that did voicework for the cartoon. I know Hal Smith that voiced Gyro Gearloose has passed away (Better known as Otis Campbell on The Andy Griffith Show).

Dude. Mind BLOWN. I watched both shows regularly and never picked up on that.

Trailer looks great, though I do admit the levels themselves look rather sparse. I'd be willing to bet the footage is from an early build; the first screens of the Adventure Time game had some pretty bland backgrounds, but the final game is pretty detailed.

spman
03-23-2013, 11:51 AM
Nice, I'll definitely be getting it once it's out. I was hoping to hear some of the remixed themes, particularly so since all the streamed gameplay was of my favorite level. The inclusion of the original voice actors is a lovely addition, I noticed it before it was said ("Is....is that actually Magica's voice? Holy shit, it is.").

The updates theme for the castle sounded great. I can't wait to hear the moon theme, that may be my favorite song in all of video gaming.

SOL BADGUY
03-23-2013, 11:59 AM
Capcom is taking the stage now at Mad Katz booth at PAX East. Maybe theyll show off some Duck Tales stuff?

http://www.twitch.tv/MadCatz

Earlier they had Street Fighter 4 going on, and some dude wore a Shredder get up and fought Daigo, he was perfected twice by The Beast.

UPDATE: Yes theyll be doing a demo of Duck Tales last within the hour.

The Dragons Dogma expansion pack looks good, great graphics and good game play. This D&D game is basically just like the old 90's beatem ups, but with a little more meat to it as they say. It looks like any beatemup, not doing anything for me.

Duck Tales is up!

Rob2600
03-24-2013, 07:48 PM
how good this looked, I'll probably get it once it gets a sale for around $5 in the future.

I love how "hardcore" gamers support developers.

Leo_A
03-24-2013, 11:45 PM
I love how "hardcore" gamers support developers.

$15 downloads are a bit out of my comfort zone so I don't blame him. I'm still waiting on a Rare XBLA compilation disc for instance just because I really don't want to pay $15 each for their Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, and Perfect Dark HD ports.

I'm much more willing to pay for a download when it's $5 or less. Anything more than $10 and I think long and hard about paying for a download.

SOL BADGUY
03-25-2013, 02:58 AM
The game looked awesome, and if youre dying for a 2D platformer on a new system with a major release backing it, this is definitely the game to get. I really liked it a lot, and Ill get it on which ever system I buy next.

Rob2600
03-25-2013, 03:15 PM
$15 downloads are a bit out of my comfort zone so I don't blame him. I'm still waiting on a Rare XBLA compilation disc for instance just because I really don't want to pay $15 each for their Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, and Perfect Dark HD ports.

I'm much more willing to pay for a download when it's $5 or less. Anything more than $10 and I think long and hard about paying for a download.

We've gotten to the point where "hardcore" gamers feel like $15 is too expensive for a game.

Leo_A
03-25-2013, 05:13 PM
We haven't reached the point where "hardcore" gamers feel like $15 is economical for the lease of a downloadable game.

Fixed it for you. :)

Bojay1997
03-25-2013, 05:16 PM
We've gotten to the point where "hardcore" gamers feel like $15 is too expensive for a game.

It's not just hardcore gamers. Lots of people feel that way. It depends on how good the game is. The world has changed in the past 5-7 years and there is a lot of great gaming, movie, television, music and other forms of entertainment available for very little money. Having said that, if the publishers and developers deliver a great game, $15 may be reasonable.

The 1 2 P
03-25-2013, 06:06 PM
$15 downloads are a bit out of my comfort zone so I don't blame him. I'm still waiting on a Rare XBLA compilation disc for instance just because I really don't want to pay $15 each for their Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, and Perfect Dark HD ports.

I'm much more willing to pay for a download when it's $5 or less. Anything more than $10 and I think long and hard about paying for a download.

I agree with you. The majority of my XBLA games have been purchased for $5 or less. $10-$20 download titles aren't impulse buys for me so I also have to think about rather I really want them or not. That said, I wouldn't expect a Rare XBLA compilation disc. It would be nice but it's probably not on their list of priorities. But all three have been part of half price sales in the past and will probably be part of some other sale in the future.

Leo_A
03-25-2013, 06:43 PM
Really? I would think that those three games would make for a heck of a XBLA compilation disc. And they're probably not lighting the XBLA sale charts on fire at this point which is an incentive to try to take advantage of them at retail when standalone digital sales start to slow in order to sell to people like myself, those that are completely anti digital or have a 360 that isn't online, those that want a hard copy, or just bargain hunters.

I suppose that Rare has finally found their terribly overpriced niche with Kinect shovelware (I'd hate to know what MS paid for them in view of what they've gotten out of it over these past two generations). But the three best products that carry the Rare name from this generation have been these three ports from their N64 library that they didn't even personally port over to the Xbox 360. Rather, a company called 4J Studios handled the conversions.

Hope they get a retail release. Anyways, back to DuckTales. :)

Frankie_Says_Relax
03-25-2013, 06:51 PM
Didn't wait in line to play it myself, but those who did at PAX said it played excellent. A separate button for pogo being a welcome change was the common theme amongst those who tried it out.

I watched it being played a few times and it looked great up close/in action.

This game is surrounded in nostalgia, so I fully expect a ton of people being indignant about it based solely on their personal feelings/memories about the original.

Personally I think it's great that Capcom picked this property to remaster. It's one of their most iconic games from the NES era.

I most likely buy it when it drops.

Rob2600
03-25-2013, 06:52 PM
Fixed it for you. :)

As I've said before:

People are fine with paying $12 to see a movie in a theater, which provides them with two hours of fleeting enjoyment...but those same people get all uppity about paying $15 for a digital video game that will provide them with many hours of enjoyment for as long as their console continues to function.

Makes perfect sense.

Leo_A
03-25-2013, 07:00 PM
The cost to go to a movie theater should cost a lot more than a remake of a 25 year old NES game.

Multiple parties are involved that are out for a profit with much more at stake financially than here (The theater owner, the movie distribution company, etc.), you're paying for the production cost of the movie (Which is typically many millions of dollars... something which in the videogame world usually calls for a $60 pricetag rather than $15), paying your share of the upkeep of that building, lease or mortgage cost, the wages for the service employees manning it during your stay, paying for the experience, etc.

If I was paying $15 to go to a movie and the cost involved were the same for the parties involved as a game download I was considering that I could get more than two hours out of, I'd agree that there's no logic for that line of thought. But beyond being two entertainment options at a similar price (Although around here, tickets are about half of the cost of this game), they're not comparable I'd say. I think most people realize that the cost to go to a theater is far greater than it is for a $15 XBLA download so they adjust what they consider a reasonable price accordingly to reflect the differences. And the experience is also not the same since many moviegoers will tell you that the experience goes beyond just enjoying the film itself. And I suspect for many gamer's, they tend to be buying downloads more frequently than they'd go to the theater leaving more reason to carefully consider their purchases since they're happening more frequently.

Even just at $5 a pop, your investment can get up to a surprising amount in a short amount of time if you're frequently making impulse buys on these download services. I think I've been to the theater once in about the past four years by comparison. It's something to keep in mind both for your wallet and if you're a classic gamer that cares about the day when the Xbox 360 isn't a commercially active platform.

Frankie_Says_Relax
03-25-2013, 08:21 PM
The cost to go to a movie theater should cost a lot more than a remake of a 25 year old NES game.

Multiple parties are involved that are out for a profit with much more at stake financially than here (The theater owner, the movie distribution company, etc.), you're paying for the production cost of the movie (Which is typically many millions of dollars... something which in the videogame world usually calls for a $60 pricetag rather than $15), paying your share of the upkeep of that building, lease or mortgage cost, the wages for the service employees manning it during your stay, paying for the experience (Which often isn't much of a experience with modern theaters that go for multiple screens that sometimes aren't much larger than what many homes now have; I've been in one before where one room had 12 seats and it was a crying shame since it was once a beautiful 1920's era movie theater not long ago with a huge screen yet now is chopped apart into about 8 or 9 rooms), etc.

If I was paying $15 to go to a movie and the cost involved were the same for the parties involved as a game download I was considering that I could get more than two hours out of, I'd agree that there's no logic for that line of thought. But beyond being two entertainment options at a similar price (Although around here, tickets are about half of the cost of this game), they're not comparable I'd say. I think most people realize that the cost to go to a theater is far greater than it is for a $15 XBLA download so they adjust what they consider a reasonable price accordingly to reflect the differences. And the experience is also not the same since many moviegoers will tell you that the experience goes beyond just enjoying the film itself. And I suspect for many gamers that they tend to be buying downloads more frequently than they'd go to the theater so there's more reason to carefully consider your purchases.

Even just at $5 a pop, your investment can get up to a surprising amount in a short amount of time if you're frequently making impluse buys. I think I've been to the theater once in about the past four years by comparison. It's something to keep in mind both for your wallet and if you're a classic gamer that cares about the day when the Xbox 360 isn't a commercially active platform.

Not to derail or side-track, but I managed a major chain theater for almost 10 years.

At $15 I assume Rob is citing the bare cost of the ticket - and if he is, here's the breakdown of where that money goes.

Almost 100% of ticket sales go back to studios.

While it was an incentive in a bygone era, in this modern day of movie theatre operation films do not remain in theatres long enough to create the type of scaled rental/return profit that they used to in the 1980s where a film could run for close to a year. Second-run theatres probably do okay on making some money off of tickets, but any operation that's playing first-run films isn't making any large profit off of tickets.

The things you mention like property upkeep and employee wages are funded almost entirely by concessions. The markup on popcorn seed alone is so astronomical it would make your head spin.

Rob2600
03-25-2013, 08:37 PM
Not to derail or side-track, but I managed a major chain theater for almost 10 years.

At $15 I assume Rob is citing the bare cost of the ticket - and if he is, here's the breakdown of where that money goes.

Almost 100% of ticket sales go back to studios.

My point was some people scoff at spending $15 on a well-produced video game and insist on waiting until the price goes down to $5. And they complain that there isn't a physical product they can keep for the rest of their lives.

But I bet they have no problem spending $12 on a movie ticket that gets them 2 hours of fleeting entertainment and no physical product to take home. Or spending $20 on dinner at a restaurant and again, no physical product to take home.

I just don't get the double standard when it comes to digital video games, especially ones that only cost $15.

Frankie_Says_Relax
03-25-2013, 08:40 PM
My point was some people scoff at spending $15 on a well-produced video game and insist on waiting until the price goes down to $5. And they complain that there isn't a physical product they can keep for the rest of their lives.

But I bet they have no problem spending $12 on a movie ticket that gets them 2 hours of fleeting entertainment and no physical product to take home. Or spending $20 on dinner at a restaurant and again, no physical product to take home.

I just don't get the double standard when it comes to digital video games, especially ones that only cost $15.

See my response in your other thread. I think that more succinctly addresses your point ... but you were there when I said it all on the podcast.

Rob2600
03-25-2013, 09:07 PM
See my response in your other thread. I think that more succinctly addresses your point ... but you were there when I said it all on the podcast.

Yeah, ever since you brought it up the night we recorded the DP podcast, I've been thinking about it a lot. Thanks for planting the seed :)

Leo_A
03-26-2013, 12:59 AM
Not to derail or side-track, but I managed a major chain theater for almost 10 years.

At $15 I assume Rob is citing the bare cost of the ticket - and if he is, here's the breakdown of where that money goes.

Luckily, tickets are about half that up here (Edit: Looks like for the local chain that runs several of them that general admission for an adult is $8 and for matinees is $6 according to their website).

They've crept up and I'm not entirely sure what the latest price was. but I'd say that they were about $5.50 when I was a regular a decade ago (Despite hating modern Hollywood and mostly sticking to the Golden Age myself when watching movies at home, the theater is a nice outing to spend some time with friends). I think it was about $7 or $7.50 when I saw the Titanic rerelease which was the last time I've gone (And with a bogus charge of several dollars tacked on top of it for a nonrefundable deposit on the cheap 3D glasses). And I assume that was during the 100th anniversary of the sinking last spring so it's fairly recent.


The things you mention like property upkeep and employee wages are funded almost entirely by concessions. The markup on popcorn seed alone is so astronomical it would make your head spin.

It's pretty widely known that the real money with movie theaters is in the concessions. The boxes of candy for instance that around here cost something like 3 or 4 dollars (And probably more in the land of $15 movie tickets... rural movie theaters in upstate NY wouldn't be in business long at those prices). Those can be had in all the dollar stores around here in the very same boxes for a dollar a box. And I'm sure the dollar store is still making a decent profit off of them.

That said, I didn't know that it was quite that bad with ticket prices. I wonder then with the prices for tickets around here if they're even making anything off the ticket sale itself or if they're actually subsidizing it a bit in the hope to make it back and then some with concession sales.

But unless the cost to a big city movie theater for access to the latest movie is more than it is for a rural theater to show the same movie (And some around here lack digital projectors so the cost is even greater I believe since studios want to kill off the distribution of film), there has to be a decent bit of profit at $15. If city theaters are essentially not making anything off the sale of a ticket after the studio got their portion of the ticket price, there's no way that rural theaters could survive subsidizing tickets with concession sales with tickets half the cost seen at urban locations. There has to be a few dollars profit at $15 I would think.

Otherwise all my local theaters would cease to exist.

Gameguy
03-26-2013, 08:42 AM
But I bet they have no problem spending $12 on a movie ticket that gets them 2 hours of fleeting entertainment and no physical product to take home. Or spending $20 on dinner at a restaurant and again, no physical product to take home.
You get to take a physical product home, it's just that most people flush it by that point.


I just don't get the double standard when it comes to digital video games, especially ones that only cost $15.
It's a remake, I've played plenty of remakes that were available for free. Look up Maniac Mansion Deluxe as an example. Sure it's not an official product, but I basically expect remakes of old games to be of similar quality and most are fan produced for free.

I haven't gone to a movie theater in ages, I don't think it's worth spending that much to see a film once. So yeah, $5 is around my limit for movies too. Heck, usually I limit it to $3 for a DVD unless it's something rare. I wouldn't pay anything at all for a movie if it was digital download only.

ZP3
03-26-2013, 09:28 AM
Good thing I picked up the original at Goodwill for $2 a few weeks ago XD.

VG_Maniac
03-27-2013, 04:30 PM
Here's a good interview with the game's producer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dmC_L91M_k

He gives a lot of information on the game. The money bin level seen in the trailer will act as an intro level, like in Mega Man X...and after you beat it you will go to the hub where you can select the different levels. The last level will also be completely new, instead of just being Transylvania again like in the NES original. He also gives a good description of how the Moon stage will play out in this version.

Frankie_Says_Relax
03-27-2013, 05:43 PM
There has to be a few dollars profit at $15 I would think.

Otherwise all my local theaters would cease to exist.

There's some profit, but believe me it's not much. Not enough to run the day to day theatre operation.

Movie theatres, at least major chains like AMC and Regal exist to maximize concessions. Trust me on this one, I've been through the wringer in that world and I was thrilled when the opportunity came up early in my time there to be a Presentation Manager (run the projection operation) instead of having to stress about concessions sales every night of the week.

Greg2600
03-27-2013, 06:37 PM
The price is fine, I just don't expect there will be much interest.

The 1 2 P
03-27-2013, 07:40 PM
The price is fine, I just don't expect there will be much interest.

If it's one thing this thread has proven it's that there is ALOT of interest in this game. I'm sure most of us will purchase it over time at various price points. I'm personally looking forward to it just because I never got to play the original for longer than a few minutes.

LiquidPolicenaut
07-12-2013, 09:24 AM
So it looks like this is being released on the PSN, WiiU and PC on Aug 13 and not until Sep 11 for the XBLA. What I liked hearing even more is that a retail version is being released for the PS3 on Aug 20th for $19.99 plus it comes with a Ducktales collector's pin.

CDiablo
07-12-2013, 10:22 AM
So it looks like this is being released on the PSN, WiiU and PC on Aug 13 and not until Sep 11 for the XBLA. What I liked hearing even more is that a retail version is being released for the PS3 on Aug 20th for $19.99 plus it comes with a Ducktales collector's pin.

The retail version seems to be a download code and a pin for $5 more. Seems like a ripoff to me.

buzz_n64
07-12-2013, 11:21 AM
The retail version seems to be a download code and a pin for $5 more. Seems like a ripoff to me.

No!!! This blows! They're missing the point as to why someone would want a retail version.

JSoup
07-12-2013, 04:45 PM
No!!! This blows! They're missing the point as to why someone would want a retail version.

True, but it's nothing new. The boxes for Mega Man 10 and Marvel vs. Capcom 2 was like that, $5 for a pretty box to put on your shelve.

bb_hood
07-12-2013, 05:36 PM
So it looks like this is being released on the PSN, WiiU and PC on Aug 13 and not until Sep 11 for the XBLA. What I liked hearing even more is that a retail version is being released for the PS3 on Aug 20th for $19.99 plus it comes with a Ducktales collector's pin.

I actually think this is pretty cool, if the pin isnt total jank I wouldnt mind spending the 20$. DuckTales a-woo-hoo

duffmanth
07-18-2013, 09:58 AM
This was my very first NES game! So I downloaded and finished the PS3 version of this game the other day and it's a great game! It stays true to the original NES version with colourful and beautiful levels, and classic, old school platforming that requires perfect timing with jumping and attacking. The levels have had an HD facelift and look great, but will be familiar and fresh at the same time for veterans of the game. The controls stay the same as they were in the NES game, but feel a little unresponsive at times. Each level has a few new elements that make things a little more fun and challenging, but I won't spoil it for anyone. If you're playing this game on normal or hard, there's going to be points where you're gonna wanna throw your controller, cuz the difficulty curve gets a little ridiculous sometimes. The soundtrack and voice acting are great to, as all of the original voice actors are back. The only real complaints I have are the sometimes unresponsive controls and constant cut scenes.

Frankie_Says_Relax
07-18-2013, 10:20 AM
Pre-purchased with discount on PLUS this week. Looking forward to it!

M.Buster2184
07-19-2013, 06:27 AM
I think the game will be good. I just hope they kept the moon theme the same.

JSoup
07-19-2013, 07:03 AM
I'm more interested in the Haunted Mansion theme. Was always my favorite. Has the updated version leaked or otherwise been previewed yet?

bb_hood
07-19-2013, 08:12 AM
My favorite theme is the Himalaya stage music. Does the retail version of the game require a pre-order??

Frankie_Says_Relax
07-19-2013, 12:52 PM
My favorite theme is the Himalaya stage music. Does the retail version of the game require a pre-order??

If you're talking about the brick/mortar version, I'd say much like the Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 box it's going to be in short supply since it's really just a box with a DLC code and a pin.

So, if your local retailer is offering pre-orders, go for it.

Bojay1997
07-19-2013, 01:24 PM
If you're talking about the brick/mortar version, I'd say much like the Marvel Vs. Capcom 2 box it's going to be in short supply since it's really just a box with a DLC code and a pin.

So, if your local retailer is offering pre-orders, go for it.

So far Gamestop seems to be the only retailer listing it. I think that was the case for Marvel vs. Capcom 2 as well.

Frankie_Says_Relax
07-19-2013, 01:47 PM
So far Gamestop seems to be the only retailer listing it. I think that was the case for Marvel vs. Capcom 2 as well.

If that's the case they'll take a pre-order on anything.

JSoup
07-19-2013, 02:18 PM
If that's the case they'll take a pre-order on anything.

That's pretty much always been true. When I was in high school, I used to pre-order crap that had been out for months just to secure my copy in the next shipment or to force them to order more.

BHvrd
07-19-2013, 07:31 PM
This is a must have and is how to do a remake, just tweak the graphics to update it but keep the same addictive fun gameplay everyone remembers. Looks like one of the best remakes in a long time, gotta buy it.

Jorpho
07-19-2013, 10:31 PM
This is a must have and is how to do a remake, just tweak the graphics to update it but keep the same addictive fun gameplay everyone remembers. Looks like one of the best remakes in a long time, gotta buy it.Those are strong words for something that has only been presented in video form. It is entirely possible that they are spectacularly botching the job in ways we cannot yet identify! It has happened so many times before! Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Arcade Attack looked pretty good initially, too.