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GREEN00
06-30-2013, 09:11 AM
It seems like I picked the worst time to start collecting. Most everything is expensive and prices keep climbing, I can't find ANYTHING for a decent bargain from all my local resources, and it feels like I missed the grace period where game collecting was affordable for someone like me with a limited income.

I check every Goodwill/Value Village/Pawn Shop/etc. every chance I get, and I'm lucky to find decent recent games, but cartridges? Impossible.

I have access to local independent game stores with good selection, but you're lucky to even get ebay prices from these places.

It's a good thing I focus on PS2 collecting, but it's at least partially due to pragmatism. Anything older than PS2 is out of the question.


So, the point of this thread is to ask,


Is there hope that game collecting will cool down/crash/etc.? I know prices have skyrocketed the past few years, and that as of late many prior avenues for game collecting (goodwill, craigslist, etc.) have largely become a thing of the past, but could things get better? Could a successful and exciting new console gen in PS4/XB1 distract some people for instance? Is there precedent for a meteoric rise & fall in interest like this for game collecting?

JakeM
06-30-2013, 09:21 AM
Well, you should probably buy newer games used, their prices are cheap. With retro games, if it "crashes" itll mean people just keep them in their houses longer waiting for prices to be able to go back up. You go into older game stores and theres the same really expensive sealed copy of this or that thats been there for a year, so theyre not making money on those anyway.

needler420
06-30-2013, 09:29 AM
Not everyone is going to get good deals. People seem to think just because they go looking for a deal they will find it for pennies on the dollar. You can easily put more time and energy then it's worth for the deal you get.


I suggest just pay fair market value for whatever games you are wanting to play and quit worrying about the monetary value or increasing the quantity of your collection.



The next option is continue looking for deals and cross your fingers you come across something. Too many people think they are the kid from Willy Wonka finding the golden ticket.


I'm starting to see lots of topics like this about how people can't find any deals in the wild. It's not like the community holds the secret answers.

Polygon
06-30-2013, 09:56 AM
Right now if you want to collect older games I suggest getting into the Genesis. Genesis games for the most part are pretty inexpensive. There are a few that are on the rise though.

bb_hood
06-30-2013, 10:08 AM
It's not like the community holds the secret answers.

Yeah, exactly. Really good finds at craigslist and goodwills are harder and rarer now than in years past, but good stuff can still be found. With goodwills and salvation army you gotta understand that many times they will have nothing at all. You gotta keep going, alot. Every once and awhile nice stuff shows up and you just gotta get lucky and be the first person who notices it.

In terms of current prices it seems that so many people just want classic video games. I really cant envision a huge crash. Prices always seem to go up before and after christmas time, and they never seem to totally level out. People say the prices have skyrocketed over the last few years but it seems they have always gradually gone up over the last 15 years. I think its due to the stuff getting harder and harder to find, and you just CANT expect deals anymore.


Right now if you want to collect older games I suggest getting into the Genesis. Genesis games for the most part are pretty inexpensive. There are a few that are on the rise though.

Yeah collecting Genesis games is awesome, Ive always loved collecting them because its so much easier to find them complete. Not to mention not having to deal with cardboard boxes as packaging. The plastic genesis cases are so sturdy in comparison and many times they are very identical which makes it very easy to replace broken ones. I got deep into collecting genesis games 5 or 6 years ago and I compiled a huge collection. Back then genesis games were even cheaper and way more affordable than collecting complete snes or nes games. I think alot of people collect snes over genesis because they think snes is way better, but the genesis is really awesome on its own. There are still quite a few pretty rare titles for genesis that can be found cheap online.

swlovinist
06-30-2013, 10:52 AM
It is important to remember that many collectors have been doing this for a long time. I have been collecting videogames since I graduated High School, nearly 20 years. Patience is something that you will have to endure if you want to collect. There is not an instant collect button unless you are rich and want to just win things off of ebay. It is true that older games are getting harder to find, due to increased demand/limited supply which in turns makes the value rise. Agree that newer used games are usually cheaper to collect. Networking is also a huge must these days. Collaborate with others in trades and sales. If you are able to work with others, you will be able to help your collection out too.

wiggyx
06-30-2013, 11:02 AM
If you want to collect retro, then wait out the boom. When there's a boom, a bust is sure to follow...

Otherwise, collect current/last gen. This is the best time to get into collecting Wii, 360, and PS3. There are great deals to be found on some really great games.

Atarileaf
06-30-2013, 11:16 AM
I'm starting to see lots of topics like this about how people can't find any deals in the wild. It's not like the community holds the secret answers.

For some, its as simple as geography - certain areas seem to have a glut of great hunting grounds for retro games and good deals abound while other areas are dry as a bone.

The other problem is actually the bigger problem - resellers - online ads like Kijiji and Craigslist are full of professional resellers who go to all the thrifts and pawns on a daily basis so unless you're as devoted you simply get beaten to everything.

I'm very very thankful my collection is virtually complete at this point, I can't imagine starting from scratch. The items I mostly collect for are pre-crash, which is becoming harder and harder to find in the wild, up to the 16-bit era which is in the middle of the highest prices I've seen in many years.

BetaWolf47
06-30-2013, 01:00 PM
There's no "secret answer." Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. Some months of the year are better than others. Persistence is key. Places that are dry one week might have awesome stuff the next. That's pretty much all there is to it.

Gunstar Hero
06-30-2013, 02:06 PM
It all depends on why you want to buy these games. If these are strictly to play and you don't mind a beat up cartridge, then you should have little trouble finding pretty good deals on eBay. I'm a huge fan of the 16 bit generation and can provide some insight. For Super Nintendo the games are typically more expensive, but you don't have to go right for Earthbound or other really expensive titles when there are cheaper games that are really fun. For example Super Mario World and Super Mario World 2 can be had on eBay for $10 or less and they're both classic titles. Super Mario All Stars has 4 classic Super Mario games and is only $15. Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past is around $20 but is absolutely worth the money for such a deep and amazing game. Starfox is about $8 and F-Zero is a surprising $6. All of these games would start off a Super Nintendo classic collection really nicely for under $70 and I included shipping in the prices. I didn't even hunt anywhere else to retrieve these prices,I just quickly checked eBay for Buy It Now prices, so if you were to do some deal hunting or win some auctions, all of these great games could probably be bought for around $50-$60 total. That's the price of a new Xbox 360 game for a good start to a Super Nintendo collection. The games might not be as cheap as a few years ago, but if you look for the right games in the right places you can get some deals.

As for Genesis games (because I did say I like the 16 Bit generation) they are way cheaper and I recommend collecting for them as well. Also NES games are cheap too so "retro" games are actually not too difficult to find a bargain on these days. The Super Nintendo examples I gave were just to show that the classic gaming scene as a whole is not too ridiculous to make a humble collection of fun games on.

Also one last thing, buy in "lots" whenever you can, buying bulk is almost always cheaper than buying separately.

SuperSonic
06-30-2013, 02:52 PM
I disagree with the people that say keep trying to hit up the thrift stores and you will get lucky. You really have to factor in if it is worth it for your gas and time. For me it SUCKS getting up right at the crack of dawn to burn 2 gallons of gas for the chance of finding a 20 dollar game for 3 dollars. I used to hit up all the thrift stores a few times a week and they were picked clean or goodwill is ebaying the good stuff anymore :/

You are prob not going to find a snes and 10 games for 30 bucks but you will find stuff like that for 60-100 bucks. What I do is buy the lot and sell the console + games I don't want. I come pretty close to breakeven. For example I got a SNES mini that was yellowed badly + Donkey Cong country, Zelda link to the past, Super Smash TV, Super Punch Out, Super castlevainia + a few other games for 75.00. So I retrobright the mini and sell it for 60.00, no lower than 50.00. Now you aren't going to find that much either but. If you think about it if you could track down a lot for a decent price once a month you're collection will grow quickly. Of course after a while you are going to run into the same games but its a good way to start.

Oh and here is another reason you never find good deals..

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Polygon
06-30-2013, 03:57 PM
Yeah collecting Genesis games is awesome, Ive always loved collecting them because its so much easier to find them complete. Not to mention not having to deal with cardboard boxes as packaging. The plastic genesis cases are so sturdy in comparison and many times they are very identical which makes it very easy to replace broken ones. I got deep into collecting genesis games 5 or 6 years ago and I compiled a huge collection. Back then genesis games were even cheaper and way more affordable than collecting complete snes or nes games. I think alot of people collect snes over genesis because they think snes is way better, but the genesis is really awesome on its own. There are still quite a few pretty rare titles for genesis that can be found cheap online.

I was trying to complete my N64 collection, but the prices for complete games has really stifled it for me. I'm close though with only 19 games left to go. That being said, I had forgotten how cheap it was to collect for the Genesis, which is still one of my favorite consoles. I'm now focusing on finishing my Genesis, 32X, and Master System collections before they get out of control, just in case. I love the fact that they have the clamshells as well. It's a lot less common to find loose games thanks to those cases. I need to grab some of the more expensive titles now, before they get anymore expensive.


If you want to collect retro, then wait out the boom. When there's a boom, a bust is sure to follow...

Otherwise, collect current/last gen. This is the best time to get into collecting Wii, 360, and PS3. There are great deals to be found on some really great games.

Great advice!


There's no "secret answer." Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. Some months of the year are better than others. Persistence is key. Places that are dry one week might have awesome stuff the next. That's pretty much all there is to it.

I can't stress this enough. Finding awesome deals in the wild doesn't happen all the time. You watch these YouTube pickup videos and you see all the good edited together. You don't see any of the bad. The same can be said for collecting online, which how I do most of my collecting. It takes a lot of patience. That's the way collecting just about anything is. It take patience. If you are after instant gratification collecting probably isn't for you.

WCP
06-30-2013, 04:19 PM
I'm currently in the process of trying to sell off about 90 percent of my collection, and my advice is to concentrate on picking up all the cheap common stuff, and wait around for prices to eventually tank.


For example, I think there are tons of great Genesis games that can be had for a song. You just have to avoid Super Nintendo right now, because it's just too damned expensive to start collecting that stuff. Focus on common games in great condition, and just be patient. Give yourself a monthly budget for retro purchases and stick to it.

Also, bargains can be found on Ebay sometimes, but it does take a ton of patience and foresight. Every once in awhile things will somehow slip thru the cracks on Ebay, and if you use a service like eSnipe, you can basically queue up tons of potential purchases, and maybe you're only successful on one out of 10 tries, but eventually you'll start building a library.

One other suggestion that I have, is play the "big bank takes little bank" game. What I mean by this, is find people that have huge lots of games, and offer them a lump sum to take the entire lot of stuff. Obviously, lowball the guy, and many times, you'll get rejected, sometimes the guy will even get a bit angry with your offer, but ultimately, in the end, money talks, and bullshit walks. As somebody that is trying to sell off a ton of stuff, I know that I have sold some things way under value, but the guy bought a bulk lot so I was willing to take a bit of a hit, just to ship all the crap to one specific buyer.

bigbacon
06-30-2013, 07:06 PM
collecting is just that, collecting because you want to do. It doesn't matter how you aquire said items you want to get, just the act that you get them for the purpose you want.

Don't fret if you can't find stuff at local places. Nothing wrong with using ebay/CL/etc to get stuff. The prices are what you are willing to pay. 10 dollar game to you may be cheap but someone else may not think so.

So if you want to collect, you got to play the game and put the money you are willing to put up even if that means you only search for 'great deals'

How you do it shouldn;t matter to you or anyone though i'm sure many here or on other collecting forums would think you aren't a 'true' collector unless you are spending your entire weekend driving around to flea markets and yard sales getting the cheap good before others. I buy on ebay and the forums and thats it. I don't actively drive around searching local places for stuff. Do I pay a bit more some times, probably but I get just as much enjoyment out of it when the box comes in the mail as Iwould finding it on a random table at a flea market.

Captain_N77
06-30-2013, 08:15 PM
wiggy nailed it, start looking for deals NOW on Wii, 360, PS3, DS, and PSP stuff. In my experience it's easier to find retail deals on handheld stuff rather than home console stuff. Also, keep your eyes peeled on Black Friday for deals, but that goes without saying really.

As for retro stuff, don't listen to anyone telling you to avoid the SNES. As has already been pointed out, some of the best games on the system can be gotten for $20 or less. You may not get an Earthbound of Chrono Trigger any time soon, but so what? Build your collection slowly and enjoy the games as they come in.

Now about hitting up the retro stores, flea markets, etc: Don't go in expecting to find treasures or amazing deals. Just go to your local spots here and there and TALK to people. Talk to the employees/owners, talk to other customers. Not only will you meet some cool people occasionally, you will make contacts. Some of the best deals I've gotten recently were from other gamers I chatted up in stores or from an owner because I am a loyal customer(because he has fair prices in the first place). I often go to retro stores to see the games and systems(treat it like a trip to a museum) and talk to folks, but sometimes you will catch them slipping. One store that usually over-prices things I recently caught a mini-deal at. I wasn't there for a deal, but it fell in my lap. Get out there, let people know what you're interested in and help them out too if you can.

And like others said, it's not about just finding deals and making out like a bandit. If you pay market value for a game, so what? As long as it's not breaking your budget, have at it. Don't be afraid it will "lose it's value", as you're collecting anyways, right? Besides, any of us who buy new(or even used) current gen games are usually buying games that will devalue in price over time.

The biggest issue right now is certain games on the SNES. As I said before, there are plenty of affordable and fun games that you can still get for it. If you really would like to build up your collection, take your time to get a good, working Atari 2600, Intellivision, Master System, Game Gear, and/or Lynx. These systems are all affordable and not hard to find on ebay(just be careful with GameGear, try to get a refurbished one). Most games on these systems are very cheap.

And remember, collecting is supposed to be fun. Don't let the jacked up retailers and resellers get in the way of that.

PROTOTYPE
06-30-2013, 09:46 PM
Its dirt cheap! The games are Dirt cheap, Hd and there are allot fun games on it.:onfire:

GamerTheGreek
06-30-2013, 11:10 PM
In 2001 I used to get games for the 2600 for 99 or 69 cents ea. those days are long gone for the most part. Common titles at retro game stores are 99 or 1.99. eBay goodwill and Craigslist are your best options. I would say on older systems you are paying more on the rarity of the game AND the popularity replay of the game. Which is why games like smb3 Zelda and such are more money even though they are mass produced and all over the place

I do Atari 8 bit computer series carts. Look at those cart prices on eBay and compare them to what nes snes genesis games go for commons for the a8 start at about 6.00 and go up from there.

If you hunt and search and fish out good deals you can do well for yourself. I have just hit 160 carts for the a8 but didn't pay anywhere near the eBay prices.

I sold my collection of regular video games in 2010 for a classic car. And now starting over. So I feel your pain. But remember to take your time hunt and remember not everything will be cheap like you wish but with due time and buying group lots and reselling extras you can do well even in this market.

GREEN00
07-01-2013, 12:31 AM
Thank you everyone for all the replies! Thank you for your words of advice and encouragement. My intent is to keep doing what I've been doing, collect specifically for PS2 & Gamecube (my 2 favorite systems, and I'm far along with both), buy PS3 game when they hit the prices I want them at, and keep my eyes peeled for anything else. For Wii, DS, PSP, & original Xbox I've already tracked down all my biggest priorities and I'm pretty much satisfied with my collection for all 4.

If I had to pick the pre PS2 systems I'm most interested in?

PS1 and Japanese Saturn. Those I'm likely to single out in future years.

sparf
07-01-2013, 01:07 AM
And of course the large number of people who have watched one too many episodes of American Pickers or Pawn Stars and think that old=rare and that they should be pricing high.

I've seen people hawking an NES with a single controller and MArio/Duck Hunt with a water-damaged and barely legible label for 300 dollars plus. They're never going to get it unless the find just that right sucker, but less extreme cases are all over yard sales now. I went to pick up a stack of Atari carts at a yard sale a month or two ago. All common stuff, but a few had labels in better condition than mine like Yars Revenge and Asteroids, so I carried the stack over to the guy who told me the games were 10 dollars each. I politely said no thanks and started to leave but he started talking to me about how these were the original video games and how I wasn't going to find them around for so good a deal anywhere else. He said I really ought to take them because I'd kick myself if I didn't.

It was all I could do not to break into lecture mode. I just smiled and said thanks but no thanks, and left, knowing full well that he wasn't going to sell that stack of games for anywhere near his asking price.

But again, there are decent prices to be had if you're willing to wait and be patient. I bought a HUGE lot of Atari 2600 games, all with boxes and manuals, (somewhere around 70 games, plus the boxed system), for $135 you can see my post Here (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?166561-March-2013-Finds).

It's a rewarding hobby, if you can avoid getting discouraged.

Pikkon
07-01-2013, 01:14 AM
I will say nes and super nes are way to expensive now,I only buy when it's a great deal but I'm mainly into super famicom plus it's so much for affordable.

Tron 2.0
07-01-2013, 05:18 AM
I will say nes and super nes are way to expensive now,I only buy when it's a great deal but I'm mainly into super famicom plus it's so much for affordable.
Ditto very pricey for the snes&nes at this point.Unless,you stick to importing for both consoles then it's not that bad at all.

thegamezmaster
07-01-2013, 07:40 AM
Guess it depends where you live. It's slim pickings where I live, central IL. Genesis is still cheap for the most part. And sometimes it's a matter of being in the right place at the right time.

thegamezmaster
07-01-2013, 07:41 AM
And of course the large number of people who have watched one too many episodes of American Pickers or Pawn Stars and think that old=rare and that they should be pricing high.

I've seen people hawking an NES with a single controller and MArio/Duck Hunt with a water-damaged and barely legible label for 300 dollars plus. They're never going to get it unless the find just that right sucker, but less extreme cases are all over yard sales now. I went to pick up a stack of Atari carts at a yard sale a month or two ago. All common stuff, but a few had labels in better condition than mine like Yars Revenge and Asteroids, so I carried the stack over to the guy who told me the games were 10 dollars each. I politely said no thanks and started to leave but he started talking to me about how these were the original video games and how I wasn't going to find them around for so good a deal anywhere else. He said I really ought to take them because I'd kick myself if I didn't.

It was all I could do not to break into lecture mode. I just smiled and said thanks but no thanks, and left, knowing full well that he wasn't going to sell that stack of games for anywhere near his asking price.

But again, there are decent prices to be had if you're willing to wait and be patient. I bought a HUGE lot of Atari 2600 games, all with boxes and manuals, (somewhere around 70 games, plus the boxed system), for $135 you can see my post Here (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?166561-March-2013-Finds).

It's a rewarding hobby, if you can avoid getting discouraged.

Very well put!

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-01-2013, 08:47 AM
Sometimes a good deal will come, other times it won't. Sadly, it seems that all the good games are either owned by collectors or are being sold by re-sellers with a price that will only be bought by a collector, that's the way the market is going right now and it seems like finding good deals in the wild is becoming less and less likely. They're out there, but you've got to really come across them at the right time it seems, I've gotten lucky a time or two with finding some deals on games that I would've paid 2-3x more had I bought them on eBay or online somewhere.

Avoid DKoldies.com and other online retailers like that, they're games are waaaaay overpriced and you would just be feeding the monster. Try antique shops, flea markets, and small mom & pop shops who may work with you on the price, if you come back and they see you're a regular than you should have no issue using that to your advantage.

Words iManifest
07-01-2013, 01:48 PM
I'd like to echo what many have said before me...Wait. There are quite a few times where I hadn't seen a game come up in a long time on Ebay nor could I find it at my local retro stores and when it did, it was way overpriced. I have to fight the urge to "buy it now" but better judgement should always prevail. I just won Gate of Thunder complete for the PC-Engine for $19.99 which I think is a fair price considering every other listing is going for $50 and up. I have to remind myself that even though I really want something, it's not like I have a drought on games. I have plenty to play in the meantime while I'm waiting (Still looking for that price on Buster Douglas for the SMS, lol). Auctions are also a fantastic way to go, you're free to bid what's in your best interest and sometimes you win. You never have to go above your self imposed limit. As someone else mentioned, go on forums and make a few trades, be fast, pack well and you'll be on your way to getting some great games for your collection in no time. Phantasy Star(SMS), King's Quest(SMS) and TMNT Hyperstone Heist(Genesis) are getting kinda pricey but I went on the forums and traded someone for a few of my rarer PS1 titles. We went back and forth and came to what we felt was an even trade, now we're both happier with our collections.

I can't complain too much here as I'm kinda weird, my favorite system are the Sega Master System, PC-Engine/Turbografx 16 and the 3DO. Collecting is a little cheaper for me besides some of those PC-Engine shooters. Collecting is just as much the thrill of the hunt as it is playing your reward. Having all the money in the world and the ability to buy any game at any time would be boring...I was sitting at work one day and brought up Ebay only to find Sega Master System boxed 3D glasses with 11 CIB games, some of them higher priced titles all for $30 free shipping. I hyperventilated a little bit and then bought. I had all of the titles so I sold them off individually for a fair price and have essentially got the 3D glasses I was looking for for free with a little extra coin in my pocket...Good luck !

Parodius Duh!
07-01-2013, 04:40 PM
Like anything thats "collectible" the more years that pass the more expensive they become. You either just need to expect to pay the price of what something goes for these days, or hunt out the few deals that might remain.
I have a limited income as well and the games I collect are ALWAYS way overpriced (I collect new/sealed Japanese ps1, Saturn, 3DO, and PC Engine CD games) I just save up until i have the right amount set aside, Ill usually find a seller and request they hold the item for me so it doesnt sell, or send a small holding fee to them until I can pay for it all.

For example, if something becomes incredibly popular and new collectors come out of the woodwork every day, some of the more popular stuff will cost more. Using comics for Example, 10 years ago Action Comics #1 was worth $30,000....Now thats an almost MILLION dollar comic :S

If theres something considered popular or rare that you want, save up and get it. The sooner you have it the less you have to worry about how much it will cost in the future, hopefully youll be one of the lucky ones. Theres a lot of ps1 games I bought years ago that I considered expensive then, but looking back now I scored some SWEET deals! 4 Years ago I bought a new/sealed copy of Japanese Castlevania Chronicles for $70, now when a new copy comes up its instantly priced at $150+, so I consider myself lucky there.

wiggyx
07-01-2013, 05:16 PM
Its dirt cheap! The games are Dirt cheap, Hd and there are allot fun games on it.:onfire:

Very true. There are some really rock-solid titles for the old Xbox, and many of the multi-platform titles from that generation are quite honestly best played on it.

And they are indeed DIRT CHEAP. I have a hard time NOT picking a couple up at the local stores every time I'm out hunting. The priciest games seem to top out at about $15 around here, with the overwhelming majority being $5 or less.




For example, if something becomes incredibly popular and new collectors come out of the woodwork every day, some of the more popular stuff will cost more. Using comics for Example, 10 years ago Action Comics #1 was worth $30,000....Now thats an almost MILLION dollar comic :S

But on the other end of that are all the other comics that are virtually worthless now despite enjoying years of growing value. Action comics is the exception, not the rule. Some stuff will always retain and possibly gain value even when the market collapses, but I really think that the inflated prices that people are asking (and seemingly getting) for the likes of SMW and other insanely common titles like Contra, Mario All Stars, Conker, etc. will fall back down to prices more like we saw pre-2005 at some point in the not-too-distant future.

Polygon
07-01-2013, 05:32 PM
But on the other end of that are all the other comics that are virtually worthless now despite enjoying years of growing value. Action comics is the exception, not the rule. Some stuff will always retain and possibly gain value even when the market collapses, but I really think that the inflated prices that people are asking (and seemingly getting) for the likes of SMW and other insanely common titles like Contra, Mario All Stars, Conker, etc. will fall back down to prices more like we saw pre-2005 at some point in the not-too-distant future.

I agree with this completely. It's the reason I've stopped buying NES, SNES, and N64 games until that time. That is, unless I can find them for a reasonable price now. I'm going to focus on other systems that I have for the time being like my Sega systems and some of the more recent systems.

wiggyx
07-01-2013, 09:20 PM
Same here. Been on the Genesis bandwagon for a bit now. Only a handful of really pricey games.

Only been picking up SNES in trades or CIB when I know I can sell the manual/box for about what the entire package cost me (which is more often than one might think).

Polygon
07-01-2013, 11:47 PM
Yeah, I just picked up a small lot of SNES games... but only because they're coming with an SNES that I'm getting for a good deal.

M.Buster2184
07-02-2013, 07:29 AM
If you want to collect retro, then wait out the boom. When there's a boom, a bust is sure to follow...

Otherwise, collect current/last gen. This is the best time to get into collecting Wii, 360, and PS3. There are great deals to be found on some really great games.

Fact. As far as older games go, now is a tough time to get into them. Same as previously mentioned, I'd focus on current gen or even going back and collecting PS2 and Gamecube, or whatever it is that interests you. There are a fair amount of good games to be had from the last two generations.

bigbacon
07-02-2013, 09:17 AM
Seems like if you go to the Sega side it is a bit easier and cheaper, specially SMS and Genesis. SMS is just hard to find in the wild, least from what I see, since it wasn't a huge success in the states but the games are cheap to get. I've definitely gotten at least 10 or 11 games CIB for the SMS for .99 cents.

Nintendo stuff is just outrageous, even gamecube games are crazy priced to me.

Polygon
07-02-2013, 10:41 AM
Seems like if you go to the Sega side it is a bit easier and cheaper, specially SMS and Genesis. SMS is just hard to find in the wild, least from what I see, since it wasn't a huge success in the states but the games are cheap to get. I've definitely gotten at least 10 or 11 games CIB for the SMS for .99 cents.

Nintendo stuff is just outrageous, even gamecube games are crazy priced to me.

Luckily SMS stuff is easy to find on eBay and it's not that expensive. I recently got the Lucky Dime Caper, Sonic 1, and Sonic 2 all in mint condition for around $24.

Atarileaf
07-02-2013, 06:40 PM
I wonder if Wii games will be coming down in price soon. There's a few that I'm interested in but they seem hard to find and pricey on ebay. Games like Dino Strike or Arcade Zone and a pool game that I can't remember the name of, which many would consider shovelware, have peaked my interest but I'm not interested in the price plus the very high shipping to Canada. Hope to find them locally but have yet to see any of these

Gregger
07-02-2013, 07:14 PM
It depends on what you are looking for, right now old Nintendo stuff is "hot" if you go back further Atari etc is cheap aside from some really rare stuff. If you go forward it gets cheap as well. You can get lots of Wii/Ps3/360 stuff for under 10 bucks. Especially Wii.

ProjectCamaro
07-03-2013, 08:33 AM
Luckily SMS stuff is easy to find on eBay and it's not that expensive. I recently got the Lucky Dime Caper, Sonic 1, and Sonic 2 all in mint condition for around $24.

I hate you, I cannot find Sonic one for the SMS for any type of decent price.

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-03-2013, 08:41 AM
I do hope collecting gets easier, it's really annoying to see common games like Mario 2 and Mario 3 selling for $$15-$20 and a game like Contra going for over $20. Even A Nightmare on Elm Street is on eBay for over $20 on some auctions and up over $15 for others, I remember when that game was $2.99 at Funcoland/Gamestop in 2003 and when you could get it on eBay for $6 shipped just a few years ago. It's depressing. Sure, I've got these games already but it would still be nice to see the prices come down and steady out for people who may want to become retro gaming collectors or for those looking to enjoy some childhood classics.

Polygon
07-03-2013, 08:46 AM
I hate you, I cannot find Sonic one for the SMS for any type of decent price.

Well, I don't think I could go through the rest of my day knowing that! :)

Let me help you out:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMS-Sonic-The-Hedgehog-1-Sega-Master-System-Complete-/360688777431?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item53fab9f8d7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEGA-MASTER-SYSTEM-GAME-SONIC-THE-HEDGEHOG-BY-SEGA-/360684269727?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item53fa75309f

ProjectCamaro
07-03-2013, 12:50 PM
Well, I don't think I could go through the rest of my day knowing that! :)

Let me help you out:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMS-Sonic-The-Hedgehog-1-Sega-Master-System-Complete-/360688777431?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item53fab9f8d7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEGA-MASTER-SYSTEM-GAME-SONIC-THE-HEDGEHOG-BY-SEGA-/360684269727?pt=UK_PC_Video_Games_Video_Games_JS&hash=item53fa75309f

Haha, nice.

Thanks for the links, I never look outside the U.S when I'm on eBay.

granz
07-03-2013, 05:09 PM
It's probably already been said, but I blame the Internet for simplifying the process of valuing games. There are all these pawn brokers and thrift store clerks now using pricing tools like eBay to ensure they get the full market value out of their items.

If I wanted to pay full value for something, I'd just shop online since it's more convenient. I do still spot the occasional deal at a flea market or yard sell, but the selection is often too varied.

SuperSonic
07-03-2013, 05:23 PM
I took a look at sega genny, dreamcast and sega cd.. They don't seem all that cheap.

Tanooki
07-03-2013, 05:32 PM
Hope in one hand, shit in the other, which will fill up first?

The turds have ruined a lot of the capability to not have it easier to get games, they're everywhere, but the better part is more or less shot to hell greatly bsed on your area though too. Better would be nice, a good slamming to the values on games to bring them back out of the clouds and back down to 2010 or earlier values. Things now are getting worse off with speculators picking up stuff, people in fear reacting to it feeding the beast as well. I hope for collecting, hell just retro gaming to get better but as a kid I've seen this total pattern play out with cards and comics and I got priced out of that, and I'm self pricing myself out of a lot of the stuff now as I refuse to fall into the trap.

Polygon
07-03-2013, 06:22 PM
Haha, nice.

Thanks for the links, I never look outside the U.S when I'm on eBay.

No problem!

I had to look to the U.K. for mine as well.

zakthedodo
07-03-2013, 11:44 PM
I had a pretty good Japanese Mega Drive collection going,....I would have enough every month to put 100 or 120 dollars on a game like Battle Mania or Pulseman.

I never got around to Gleylancer as I could never find it less than 180 bucks...good game but not THAT good a game.

I cashed them in on Ebay but sold them at about 20 dollars to 30 dollars less than I paid because I just wanted the money to invest in a current gen system.

I think collecting will get worse rather than better. I usually collect at the end of a systems' lifespan, because you know the system is good, all the great games and horrible games are well known and everything is dirt cheaper one generation down.

On a side note, in 1998, I bought a Sega Nomad brand new for 40 dollars at EB and there were a dozen of them.
What an investment that would have been just a few years later.

So the best time to collect for a console is just when the system is sputtering out.
Anything pre 1995 outside of sports titles, if are in good shape and complete it's a sellers market. The ability to download older games on newer platforms as well as emulators is going to mean only serious collectors are going to be hung out to try because sellers may be greedy, but are no dummies.

wiggyx
07-04-2013, 12:44 AM
I took a look at sega genny, dreamcast and sega cd.. They don't seem all that cheap.

Then don't go looking up SNES prices if you think those are pricey.

sixwayshot
07-04-2013, 01:34 AM
As a lot of other people have stated, right now is NOT the time to start buying SNES stuff. Prices are too expensive, and it's full of people inflating prices and exploiting interest for a game. The second someone on YouTube mentioned Demon's Crest, Knights of The Round, and Run Saber, prices soared. The same thing is happening to all of the well-known games on the console. It's absolutely disgusting.

I collect for the SNES and N64. Luckily, I've managed to find most of my desired games for both of those consoles. I'm switching my focus to other stuff, since other stuff is cheaper. It's a good time to check out the Sega Genesis and Sega CD, and newer stuff as well.

Despite what a lot of people think, PS2 and Xbox, as well as PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii games WILL go up in value eventually. This will happen. Nostalgia will rear its rose-tinted head when the people who spent their childhoods with those consoles are old enough to have kids. Prices will go up for those consoles just as they have with the older ones. People will make up their own reasons why certain games are rare and valuable, just as people do now with NES and SNES.

If you enjoy games and you want to collect something, newer stuff isn't a bad way to go. There are classics waiting to be played on the PS2, PS3, Wii and Xboxes. And right now, they can be had for a song.

Zing
07-10-2013, 08:42 AM
As a lot of other people have stated, right now is NOT the time to start buying SNES stuff. Prices are too expensive, and it's full of people inflating prices and exploiting interest for a game. The second someone on YouTube mentioned Demon's Crest, Knights of The Round, and Run Saber, prices soared. The same thing is happening to all of the well-known games on the console. It's absolutely disgusting.


Are you suggesting that eBay sellers monitor YouTube and raise their asking prices in response? I believe these videos simply create demand, which causes the supply of these games to quickly drop. Smart sellers will notice this and newly listed copies will have a higher asking price.

T.A.P.
07-10-2013, 09:11 AM
As crappy as it may sound, if you want to just play the games you might just consider the E-word.

Prices for old games are crappy and will probably continue to be crappy for the near future. Popularity of the current stuff will fade in time, but the prices are unlikely to revert back to what they were a decade ago. That doesn't mean some things wont get cheaper over time, but I can't imagine it would be worth waiting years to buy a game just to save $20-50.

If you do intend to continue collecting old games, your best bet is to just stick to forums. With the increasing number of resellers buying up local stock, it seems like the easiest way to get that game you want is to ask around online on sites like this. You probably wont get that super-awesome once-in-a-blue-moon deal, but you can usually get stuff for less than eBay prices. That's probably how I've gotten most of my old games in the past 8 years.