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zektor
08-10-2003, 02:07 AM
I have to admit this compilation slipped past me. I wasn't even aware of it's existence until I saw it at a local KB Toys yesterday. Grabbed it for $19.99. Has anyone played it yet? It has Space Harrier, Afterburner, Super Hang-On and Out Run. Not a bad compilation at all. Some things are different such as the barrel roll in Afterburner. I am so used to hitting right and then a quick left (or vice versa) to perform the stunt, but now it uses the L and R buttons. ANd Space Harrier uses one of the trigger buttons for speeding up. Very different. Other than a few things they are respectable arcade conversions. Just playing classic Space Harrier on a new system gets me all happy :) I recommend the compilation, its all good!

Sotenga
08-10-2003, 07:49 AM
:yipes:

HOLY SHIZNIT! I MUST GET THIS!!! It's like the Sega Ages disc on the Saturn, only with Super Hang-On as well, and it's on the GBA! Super-grand, seeing as I don't have a Saturn... yet.

Daniel Thomas
08-10-2003, 12:58 PM
I'm impressed that you enjoy that cart so much. I just hated it -- I thought the graphics were just terrible, very blocky and pixelated. It should have been much better than it was. But it does fill a void in the GBA library.

zektor
08-10-2003, 01:01 PM
I'm impressed that you enjoy that cart so much. I just hated it -- I thought the graphics were just terrible, very blocky and pixelated. It should have been much better than it was. But it does fill a void in the GBA library.

I thought the graphics were actually quite good. These are old games, the graphics are supposed to be that way! :)

Bratwurst
08-10-2003, 01:06 PM
What he might mean is if the games themselves are scaled to fit the screen (which can sometimes result in chunky, uneven pixels). Is that the case, or is the viewing area just simply shrunk and everything was untouched resolution wise?

SoulBlazer
08-10-2003, 01:46 PM
I imagine the quality of the graphics would be improved on a Game Boy Player.

MegaDrive20XX
02-01-2005, 05:09 PM
I gotta give this a bump, because I just played it...and I'm offically adding this as one of the MUST have titles for GBA.

These ports are actually damn good...I'm surprised by far...I do say it would probably be better on GB Player....but man this is a sweet little title!

and two words for ya...SPACE HARRIER....that's all I needed to get me motivated to play this compilation...and I'm happy with it :)

klausien
02-01-2005, 05:13 PM
The unfortunate thing about Sega Arcade Collection is that they are all ports as opposed to emulation. The results are uneven.

I think the best playing game on the comp is Super Hang On. OutRun is a bit hard to control, but the prettiest by far. Space Harrier is solid, if a bit too difficult due to the frame rate and the smallness of the screen. AfterBurner is unplayable.

Worth it though if you are into the old Sega Super Scalar arcade games. Both the Saturn and DC versions of the games are much better.

Gapporin
02-01-2005, 05:30 PM
I said a couple of things about it in another thread, but basically I had two complaints.

1. The music is incomplete in Out Run (might have other games that suffer from this as well).
2. They give you a 40 second immunity timer in Space Harrier before they start taking away lives. What the heck?

As for graphics, I actually thought that it had a very smooth framerate. I was not dissappointed with the graphics at all. I should get this for myself (I bought it for my brother for Christmas, and I've been the one playing 90% of the time LOL).

MegaDrive20XX
02-01-2005, 05:34 PM
Emulated? Hmm I gotta keep playing this to find more errors..

Graham Mitchell
02-01-2005, 07:04 PM
On a somewhat related note, I got the Phantasy Star Collection for GBA last christmas. It's also REALLY awesome, and translates well to the GBA. The only gripe is the music, specifically PS3...something about the high-notes on that old FM chip don't emulate well on the GBA. But when I got it, it was the first time I had played PS3 in about 8 years, and the emulation was good enough to make pretty emotional about it, actually.

Now, the PS Collection has Digital Eclipse all over it, which means that those titles are emulated (this game is also published by THQ). Is DE involved with the Arcade Collection?

Lady Jaye
02-01-2005, 07:11 PM
Oh yeah, Phantasy Star Collection, great high-quality cart! Gotta love seeing the game freeze and crash while trying to save during Phantasy Star 1! :angry:

I have very mixed feelings about PS Collection. Great idea, could have been a lot more enjoyable without the save bug.

TheRedEye
02-01-2005, 07:37 PM
On a somewhat related note, I got the Phantasy Star Collection for GBA last christmas. It's also REALLY awesome, and translates well to the GBA. The only gripe is the music, specifically PS3...something about the high-notes on that old FM chip don't emulate well on the GBA. But when I got it, it was the first time I had played PS3 in about 8 years, and the emulation was good enough to make pretty emotional about it, actually.

Now, the PS Collection has Digital Eclipse all over it, which means that those titles are emulated (this game is also published by THQ). Is DE involved with the Arcade Collection?

Actually, the only emulated game on Phantasy Star Collection is the original. The other two were ported using the original source code.

SoulBlazer
02-01-2005, 08:42 PM
And tommorow Sega Ages: Phantasy Star Trilogy for the PS2 comes out. ;)

Leo_A
02-01-2005, 09:31 PM
Outrun controls just fine on this in my opinion.

Only reason I ever play this cart.

yoursisterspretty
02-02-2005, 12:47 AM
Outrun controls just fine on this in my opinion.

Only reason I ever play this cart.

I bought this over the summer for $5 when Circuit City was blowing out some games. I bought it JUST for OutRun. And I was highly disapointed. The controls are just broken IMHO. It wasn't a waste of $5, but it was such a huge disapointment.

Leo_A
02-02-2005, 12:55 AM
Maybe its just because I've tried racing Pole Position on Namco Museum for the GBA, makes Outrun seem to control perfectly. :)

I have no trouble winning anytime I play Outrun, so I guess it works for me.

zektor
02-02-2005, 01:09 AM
Wow, this thread arose from the dead! Yeah, Gallery is great. I have always been a huge Sega fan, and especially of their arcade titles. I have purchased Outrun, Afterburner, Space Harrier, and Super Hang On for so many consoles and computers in the past. I really believe this compilation is the closest you will come to the arcade.

As for the Phantasy Star Collection, again, awesome. I do believe that the included original SMS PS1 is the only re-release of a real Sega Master System game on any console ever...but I could be wrong.

soniko_karuto
02-02-2005, 01:31 AM
Maybe its just because I've tried racing Pole Position on Namco Museum for the GBA, makes Outrun seem to control perfectly. :)


ok, let me second that. SEGA Arcade gallery kicks ass!!

MegaDrive20XX
02-02-2005, 01:36 AM
Maybe its just because I've tried racing Pole Position on Namco Museum for the GBA, makes Outrun seem to control perfectly. :)


ok, let me second that. SEGA Arcade gallery kicks ass!!


LOL I just read the Namco part..and Im like "uhh ok?":

Graham Mitchell
02-02-2005, 09:50 AM
Maybe its just because I've tried racing Pole Position on Namco Museum for the GBA, makes Outrun seem to control perfectly. :)


ok, let me second that. SEGA Arcade gallery kicks ass!!


LOL I just read the Namco part..and Im like "uhh ok?":

There's something inherently wrong with the steering in Pole Position on Namco Museum Volume 1 for the PSX. I'm sure having a NeGcon would probably make it steer much better, but they tried to emulate the wheel using the digital pad and it's just insane. It's like the longer you push the button, the faster the virtual "wheel" is spinning. So you start turns really slowly and then all of a sudden your driving perpindicular to the track. This means you crash at every hairpin turn, (since you can't reverse direction efficiently) and as such the game is impossible to master.


Oh yeah, Phantasy Star Collection, great high-quality cart! Gotta love seeing the game freeze and crash while trying to save during Phantasy Star 1!

I have very mixed feelings about PS Collection. Great idea, could have been a lot more enjoyable without the save bug.

Maybe you had a bum cart. I played PS1 from start to finish and never had a problem.

Lady Jaye
02-02-2005, 10:02 AM
When I contacted THQ about this, I was told that they knew about the bug (the game crashes upon saving while a certain music loop plays) and that there was no plan to correct that. Now, if they did and did nothing to offer a replacement for owners of the game, that's really not a classy thing to do. :angry:

Graham Mitchell
02-02-2005, 12:00 PM
When I contacted THQ about this, I was told that they knew about the bug (the game crashes upon saving while a certain music loop plays) and that there was no plan to correct that. Now, if they did and did nothing to offer a replacement for owners of the game, that's really not a classy thing to do. :angry:

No it's not. But I mean, IT'S THQ! It's pretty clear from their track record of releases alone that they just don't give a shit. You're right, and you did the right thing, but I personally wouldn't have even bothered contacting them because I know I'd get nothing out of it.

Note the irony: THQ finally puts out a game that we actually want to play (which they didn't design) and it STILL comes out messed up. :/

Oh well. I love that comp anyway, and like I said, I never had any problems with it.

Lady Jaye
02-02-2005, 12:39 PM
I contacted them again about this this morning, asking them if a corrected version was ever released and if so, if it were possible to receive a replacement cart upon sending them the buggy one.

Let's see what they answer...

In comparison, when it turns out that there was a one-frame bug in the Tron DVD that made the screen turn into green pixellation when the movie was viewed in a PS2, Disney did the classy thing and sent replacement copies of the movie itself (in a paper sleeve) if you made the request. And you didn't even need to send them the faulty copy. Say what you might about Disney, but that was good customer service right there!

Melf
02-02-2005, 01:19 PM
As for the Phantasy Star Collection, again, awesome. I do believe that the included original SMS PS1 is the only re-release of a real Sega Master System game on any console ever...but I could be wrong.

PS1 came out on the Mega Drive and in the PS Collection on Saturn.

yoursisterspretty
02-02-2005, 01:24 PM
Maybe its just because I've tried racing Pole Position on Namco Museum for the GBA, makes Outrun seem to control perfectly. :)

I have no trouble winning anytime I play Outrun, so I guess it works for me.

And I thought Pole Position was just fine. =) OutRun is in my Top 5 games ever, so I think my expectations just couldn't be met sans analog control. It's a decent port, infact the whole cart is decent, just not what I was hoping for.