PS Vita TV

[kupomogli]

A new model Vita and PS Vita TV was announced today. PS Vita TV won't allow the Vita itself to connect to your TV, it's a box that hooks up to your TV. A consolized version of the Vita. PS Vita TV is going to have a slot for Vita memory cards as well as retail releases, and 1GB of flash memory which I'm assuming is just for save data or stuff like Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, etc, which also are available for the Vita. In Japan it's going to go for around $100. Since some games have forced touch screen and back touch, it can't play all games, but there's a compatibility list for what it can play. I can't find a compatibility list for PSX and PSP, so I'm assuming that all PSX and PSP games that can be played on the Vita will be playable on the PS Vita TV. It can use two PS3 controllers to play multiplayer on PSX games as well(no four player unfortunately.) It can also do remote play as well, and while you can do it through a different room, it'd be more useful if you were on vacation and connected to the PS4 wirelessly to play any of your PS4 games.

If this came to the US for $100, would anyone be interested? I think it's a pretty cool idea. Even if your main interest was it being used for Netflix/Hulu in a different room, you could still use it to play games. It's the same price as the Ouya and only $50 more expensive than a Roku and it'd be a PSX/PSP/Vita/Netflix machine all in one.

Nintendo released the 2DS as a cheaper version. Sony released the PS Vita TV. One of the biggest things you hear from people is playing Vita, PSP games, etc, on TV, so while it might not sell more, I think this will get a lot more interest in comparison. What I mean is that I think the PS Vita TV will sell more compared to current Vita sales than 2DS will sell compared to current 3DS sales.

Here's the compatibility list of Vita games in Japan.

http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvitatv/game/psvitalist/

And the Youtube video showing it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG5l78gbvpU

[Red Warrior]

I think this is a great idea... and might actually get me to buy a few Vita games. I plan on getting a 2DS for my children so they'll stop wanting to play my 3DS XL... and because it's a cheap alternative. Likewise with the Vita TV, it seems to be a nice cheap alternative for those of us who aren't ready to plunk down the cash for a portable Vita. Plus, with all the other abilities this thing has, I think it'd be a nice investment. For $100, I'm there.

[Bojay1997]

A new model Vita and PS Vita TV was announced today. PS Vita TV won't allow the Vita itself to connect to your TV, it's a box that hooks up to your TV. A consolized version of the Vita. PS Vita TV is going to have a slot for Vita memory cards as well as retail releases, and 1GB of flash memory which I'm assuming is just for save data or stuff like Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, etc, which also are available for the Vita. In Japan it's going to go for around $100. Since some games have forced touch screen and back touch, it can't play all games, but there's a compatibility list for what it can play. I can't find a compatibility list for PSX and PSP, so I'm assuming that all PSX and PSP games that can be played on the Vita will be playable on the PS Vita TV. It can use two PS3 controllers to play multiplayer on PSX games as well(no four player unfortunately.) It can also do remote play as well, and while you can do it through a different room, it'd be more useful if you were on vacation and connected to the PS4 wirelessly to play any of your PS4 games.

If this came to the US for $100, would anyone be interested? I think it's a pretty cool idea. Even if your main interest was it being used for Netflix/Hulu in a different room, you could still use it to play games. It's the same price as the Ouya and only $50 more expensive than a Roku and it'd be a PSX/PSP/Vita/Netflix machine all in one.

Nintendo released the 2DS as a cheaper version. Sony released the PS Vita TV. One of the biggest things you hear from people is playing Vita, PSP games, etc, on TV, so while it might not sell more, I think this will get a lot more interest in comparison. What I mean is that I think the PS Vita TV will sell more compared to current Vita sales than 2DS will sell compared to current 3DS sales.

Here's the compatibility list of Vita games in Japan.

http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvitatv/game/psvitalist/

And the Youtube video showing it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG5l78gbvpU

I'm pretty excited about the Vita TV and I think it could pose a challenge to the Ouya and other similar boxes as there is a pretty healthy amount of independent game development on PSN, but I don't think it's really a game changer. It's more of a niche product for people that like to play portable games on their TVs or don't already have another streaming solution (which seems like a pretty small group of potential customers, especially with other lower cost options out there including Chromecast and older or less capable Roku models).

[skaar]

I'm pretty excited about the Vita TV and I think it could pose a challenge to the Ouya and other similar boxes as there is a pretty healthy amount of independent game development on PSN, but I don't think it's really a game changer. It's more of a niche product for people that like to play portable games on their TVs or don't already have another streaming solution (which seems like a pretty small group of potential customers, especially with other lower cost options out there including Chromecast and older or less capable Roku models).

Uh... it's a budget Sony console that'll play anything a Vita plays. So, all PS1 classics and Sony's marketplace titles. This actually can be very significant, particularly if you can share titles between the PS3/Vita/VitaBox (you already can do 2/3)

Don't sell this thing short.

[Bojay1997]

Uh... it's a budget Sony console that'll play anything a Vita plays. So, all PS1 classics and Sony's marketplace titles. This actually can be very significant, particularly if you can share titles between the PS3/Vita/VitaBox (you already can do 2/3)

Don't sell this thing short.

Actually, it won't play "anything" a Vita plays. It won't even play all Vita games because of the lack of touch capability. You can already play PS1 classics and PSN titles on a PS3. As such, this will appeal to a niche group of gamers like myself who would rather play Vita games on a TV screen and like the added bonus of the PSN capability and the streaming functionality. I just don't think there is a massive pool of people out there who have similar needs or interests, certainly not enough to move millions of these units. Just about anyone already in the PSN ecosystem already has a PS3 and has or will purchase a Vita following the recent price drop so this unit doesn't really give those users much additional capability beyond the TV play of Vita titles.

[Flashback2012]

I'd buy one. :)

[Tupin]

Looks pretty cool, but hope that the PS4 controller upgrade would come sooner rather than later.

[kupomogli]

Looks pretty cool, but hope that the PS4 controller upgrade would come sooner rather than later.

What PS4 controller upgrade? PS4 touch pad works as the Vita touch screen?

[Tupin]

Would certainly be useful, wouldn't it?

[kupomogli]

Would certainly be useful, wouldn't it?

Yeah. Then games like Unit 13 and Uncharted would be playable on it.

[cholkavich]

This is something Im going to be picking up for sure.

[Dashopepper]

I got really, really, excited about it this morning. I called my brother up and told him about it and day dreamed about going to the thrift store and picking up a bunch of old PSP games to play on it. Then I found out that it doesn't use the UMD disks, looked through the Vita games at Target and found nothing too interesting, and I know there's no way i'll ever download games from the PSN. I think its cool still, every portable should have an on tv screen option (Sega!), but it's not for me.

[WCP]

I heard that this thing will allow me to play PS4 games on another TV. Say, for example that my PS4 is in the living room. My wife has some of her friends over to watch the Golden Globes or something.

Now, normally, I would have to unplug the PS4 from everything, get all the wires and cords, and take it to another room to play it in there. But if I have one of these things in the other room, I'd just need to bring my dualshock 4 with me, and then I can play PS4 games in there, that would be amazing. I normally buy extra consoles for this reason.

[T2KFreeker]

It's a cool concept that could certainly work to Sony's advantage, as long as they don't clog the pipes like they have with the current Vita. The price is attractive and all and the design is nice. I also have more faith in it than the PS3 and PSP durability-wise because I am thinking this thing won't have moving parts, which is the doom of most Sony consoles. If it upscales PSP games to full screen, I might be a bit more optimistic, but if I still have to play with huge black borders around the games, I really see no reason to buy this. Get that running, and I'm probably there.

[kupomogli]

^The PS Vita upscales PSP games so the PS Vita TV probably will as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w4t1ef7ETg

[LaughingMAN.S9]

i'd buy it more for its ability to play ps4 games on a different tv in the house via remote play


i dont know if i like the 100 dollar price, im more in the 60 dollar area for something i know im only going to get limited use out of, still a cool idea tho


also, fuck the ps vita slim. they had me all the way until i saw they're replacing the oled for an lcd, uhhhhh....PASS.

[PreZZ]

Sounds promising, but also has a couple of issues:
#1-Sony has been promoting 'remote play" on both psp and vita, and it was useless because of lag, disconnection and lack of buttons, so I'll believe ps4 streaming when I see it...
#2- Im not sure you can play Physical copies of vita games, they said it has a mem card slot, but no confirmation of game card slot? So yeah I think you download everything on these overpriced vita mem cards, so add another 80$ for a decent 32 gig mem card, the rest are not worth it and even 32 fills up pretty quickly.I dont think it will have game card slot, NOT SURE, but it would make sense that its download only because a lot of games requiring touch screen like Uncharted wont be playable and not confuse customers to buy Vita games that will not work on this. By making it digital only, they can control which games you can buy and make sure they are 100% compatible
#3 Price. Its cheap but when you add up the mem card, its pretty close to 200$ so why not buy a ps3?

[Tupin]

Yeah, it supports physical releases.

[PreZZ]

Yeah, it supports physical releases.

This will be a nightmare for retailers, a lot of customers will buy games not compatible with VitaTV.

[Bojay1997]

This will be a nightmare for retailers, a lot of customers will buy games not compatible with VitaTV.

I kind of doubt it. I think almost everyone who buys this will already own a Vita and a PS3. It's not the kind of device that is going to necessarily appeal to the general public as you can certainly find cheaper streaming box solutions and it's really designed for existing Vita owners and heavy PSN users to have one more option for playing their games.

[xelement5x]

This will be a nightmare for retailers, a lot of customers will buy games not compatible with VitaTV.

I'd say the reverse is more likely. If the Vita TV takes off and is popular, most devs will probably drop anything that uses the touchscreen unless it's super essential to the gameplay so that they can reach the largest number of users. That said, I'd definitely buy one in a heartbeat if it was released here. Ys 4 on the big screen? YES PLEASE!

[Bojay1997]

I'd say the reverse is more likely. If the Vita TV takes off and is popular, most devs will probably drop anything that uses the touchscreen unless it's super essential to the gameplay so that they can reach the largest number of users. That said, I'd definitely buy one in a heartbeat if it was released here. Ys 4 on the big screen? YES PLEASE!

True. In fact, the Shantae Kickstarter team just indicated that they plan to release their game (assuming it gets funded) on Vita because of the Vita TV announcement.

[eskobar]

This is actually a great way to get more developers interested in PS VITA development. The VITA library is pretty flat, specially the 1st party games but having a cheap and very small box that supports VITA games and memory cards + digital TV is a win-win situation for developers and for Sony.

I actually don't have a PS VITA and I don't have money to purchase a PS4 on launch day so this is a great opportunity for me to buy new hardware to fill the gap until I can buy a PS4 without spending too much. I already have dual shock 3 controllers, so for 99 usd: I'M IN !

[WCP]

Has anybody seen the Japanese commercial that shows this thing off ? Well, an interesting side note, is that it shows this girl with a Vita, and she is like at her school or something, and she's in the school cafeteria, and she connects to her PS4 via her Vita and starts playing Knack.

Is Sony trying to suggest that a person will actually be able to play PS4 games remotely over a typical wi-fi network ? I'm sorry, but as amazing as something like that would be, I just can't imagine it working worth a damn. Not like the way this girl was playing Knack in real time. It looked perfect. If it can actually work like that, I would think the attatch rate for Vita's to PS4 owners would be like every 3rd PS4 owner would buy one.

Seriously, if you can be on vacation, and you can actually be playing a PS4 remotely, how freaking amazing would that be ?


You guys gotta check out the commercial if you haven't seen it already... hold on, I'll find a link :

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/3roara/playstation-4-a-day-with-playstation-trailer--stream-

[Bojay1997]

Has anybody seen the Japanese commercial that shows this thing off ? Well, an interesting side note, is that it shows this girl with a Vita, and she is like at her school or something, and she's in the school cafeteria, and she connects to her PS4 via her Vita and starts playing Knack.

Is Sony trying to suggest that a person will actually be able to play PS4 games remotely over a typical wi-fi network ? I'm sorry, but as amazing as something like that would be, I just can't imagine it working worth a damn. Not like the way this girl was playing Knack in real time. It looked perfect. If it can actually work like that, I would think the attatch rate for Vita's to PS4 owners would be like every 3rd PS4 owner would buy one.

Seriously, if you can be on vacation, and you can actually be playing a PS4 remotely, how freaking amazing would that be ?


You guys gotta check out the commercial if you haven't seen it already... hold on, I'll find a link :

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/3roara/playstation-4-a-day-with-playstation-trailer--stream-

Yeah, the technology actually exists already to do this (it's what OnLive and Gaikai are designed around), but having a reliable high speed Internet connection from your home to a server and then from your mobile device or your streaming device is really tough to do. I live in a fairly connected area with some pretty high end infrastructure and even OnLive was virtually completely unplayable most of the time. I can't imagine that most areas in the US will be any better unless you have something like FIOS and you're paying for the very highest end premium connection pipeline. Even then, you'd need it at your remote location as well.

[kupomogli]

^Yeah. You can already do it with the PS3. Doing the same with the PS3 introduces a little bit of input lag though. As minimal as it may be, it's noticeable on games where precise timing is required. On Shadow of the Colossus, it wasn't an issue at all, but on Castlevania Chronicles and Crash Bandicoot it interfered with gameplay.

Sony has already stated that with the PS4 being more powerful, they've been able to reduce the input lag between it and the Vita to zero. While I don't believe this, there's got to be some, atleast it's not noticeable.

PS Vita TV should have no difference with remote play between both PS3/PS4, except like the Vita right now, PS3 is limited to very few games that work while all PS4 games will work except for those that require the PS4 Eye or PS Move. PS Vita TV should actually be able to do remote play better since it uses ethernet and there'd be less graphics degradation since it's 720p.

Read this how to manual if you're interested. It tells how to turn remote start on your PS3 on so you can use remote play through the internet.

https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/445/~/how-to-use-remote-start

[c0ldb33r]

I am excited about this. Will definitely buy it :)

[goob47]

I already have a PS Vita, but just the sheer ability to be able to use a Dualshock controller makes me really want to get one. ROFL Plus, this will probably open a whole new world of finally being able to record Vita gameplay in HD. Watch out Youtube, here we come.

[Tupin]

Apparently, there's no plans to release this in North America or Europe yet:

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20130912/302940/?P=2

Maybe sometime in 2014.

[otaku]

this has to come state side it will sell the price is low there is a market for it-one it can dominate

[Guyra]

Yeah, I've had no interest in buying a Vita until I heard about this. This is what I've wanted to see! Now, let's hope Nintendo does something similar about the DS and 3DS ... :p

[kupomogli]

Yeah, I've had no interest in buying a Vita until I heard about this. This is what I've wanted to see! Now, let's hope Nintendo does something similar about the DS and 3DS ... :p

I don't think it'll happen until the Wii U starts selling better, but I'd like Nintendo to copy this idea. With the 3DS TV, it would require you to own a Wii U touch pad so the bottom screen shows on the touch pad while the top screen shows on your TV. For people interested it'd give more of a reason to buy the Wii U since it in includes a touch pad. In the west you can't even buy the touch pad by itself so you'd pretty much be required to purchase the Wii U.

I'd buy a 3DS TV.

[Guyra]

I don't think it'll happen until the Wii U starts selling better, but I'd like Nintendo to copy this idea. With the 3DS TV, it would require you to own a Wii U touch pad so the bottom screen shows on the touch pad while the top screen shows on your TV. For people interested it'd give more of a reason to buy the Wii U since it in includes a touch pad. In the west you can't even buy the touch pad by itself so you'd pretty much be required to purchase the Wii U.

I'd buy a 3DS TV.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well! The Wii U is perfect for it!

They did have the Super Gameboy(which allowed you to play all GB games, and some GBC games) for the SNES, and the Gameboy Player(which allowed you to play all GB, GBC, and GBA games) for the Gamecube. So the only Nintendo handheld systems that can't be played on a TV are the NDS and 3DS.

[ReaXan]

I def like this idea for some reason. I want one but I do not know why exactly lol

[DiEsmitty]

Theres already a waiting list over for them. If you can't wait for a stateside release pm me. That commercial is more than likely BS. Simply put while internet speeds here are fast, there is a lack of free wifi.

[Leo_A]

While I think a standalone Vita TV makes the most sense thanks to its media capabilities and remote play with the PS4 and select PS3 software, I think a Game Boy Player style Wii U add-on would be better for a 3DS tv solution.

It would connect via USB and the Wii U could gain some benefit from the popularity of the 3DS since tv play would surely sell some Wii U's. And most of all, Nintendo wouldn't have to include a lot of extra hardware like a Wii U gamepad and it would tap into the Wii U's own hardware for things like video post processing like upscaling, wireless communications, etc.

The fact that there's 4 USB ports very well might mean I'm not too far out there with this idea. Most Wii U owners likely have 2, 3, or even all 4 of them unused. They're not including them there just for the heck of it and there's enough here where even if two USB 2.0 ports had to be occupied to provide adequate bandwidth to handle the video stream, controller inputs, and WiFi, it wouldn't be an issue for most of their customers.