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Greg2600
09-16-2013, 09:44 PM
http://gaminrealm.com/2013/09/10/capcom-152-mil-bank/

This good, bad?

JakeM
09-16-2013, 10:17 PM
Its horrible! They rushed out SF 4 too soon, and the since it was crap they kept updating it so people who arent hardcore into fighters were like "what is this?" Then they released MVC 3 and months later they released Ultimate and people again who arent into tournaments were like "why are you doing this???" Then came the DLC fiasco with SFXT and then people had enough and dropped that game. Meanwhile RE RC was crap, then RE 6 was bad. Then they remade DMC with the emo boy in it.......Talk about a bunch of bad moves.
USF4 is coming out and I doubt itll save them they way theyve been handling stuff. They need to learn from LOL and DOTA 2 and really invest in the fighting game tournaments like they did last year with the SF 25th anniversary tournament series and make it so everyone will want to win a million dollars playing their games.

DreamTR
09-16-2013, 10:58 PM
Its horrible! They rushed out SF 4 too soon, and the since it was crap they kept updating it so people who arent hardcore into fighters were like "what is this?" Then they released MVC 3 and months later they released Ultimate and people again who arent into tournaments were like "why are you doing this???" Then came the DLC fiasco with SFXT and then people had enough and dropped that game. Meanwhile RE RC was crap, then RE 6 was bad. Then they remade DMC with the emo boy in it.......Talk about a bunch of bad moves.
USF4 is coming out and I doubt itll save them they way theyve been handling stuff. They need to learn from LOL and DOTA 2 and really invest in the fighting game tournaments like they did last year with the SF 25th anniversary tournament series and make it so everyone will want to win a million dollars playing their games.

Wait what?

SF4 sold like hotcakes. They update the games to keep them fresh. Most of the games they have lost money on are the non main franchises.

TonyTheTiger
09-16-2013, 11:01 PM
Isn't this standard practice at this point? Based on all the available information, most major publishers appear to be conducting business in such a way that they're constantly one major flop away from total collapse.

Opti
09-16-2013, 11:02 PM
Used to be one of my favorite game companies with squaresoft. But they havent really made anything that interests me in a long time. If they go down as long as someone picks up the Breath of Fire IP with plans to utilize it ill be happy.

kupomogli
09-16-2013, 11:13 PM
Good. They were easily one of the best publishers and has an amazingn amount of great franchises in their library, but Capcom is a shell of its former self. No longer do they care about good games at all. Back then they released a constant stream of Street Fighter and fighting games, but they also released a lot of games in between them, even though they didn't sell amazingly well. Last gen as great as some of the games were, you heard nothing but how the game didn't sell well or as much as Capcom would have liked so people were leaving Capcom left and right, fired or otherwise. They practically threw away all their talent just to rehash the same games over and over, or games like Remember Me, Lost Planet, or what the Resident Evil series has turned into as of late.

This may be one step closer to all digital, but Capcom, once an innovator to the industry is nothing more than an old relic in it for the quick buck.

So Sega doesn't give a crap about releasing Yakuza in the west, but what if they bought the Final Fight franchise and turned it into an western story Yakuza game, with US culture, etc. Or Namco Bandai could pick Final Fight up and make a good next gen like beat em up with similar gameplay to Urban Reign's.

Breath of Fire might go to a develop that cares.

Dragon's Dogma was good, but the game was far too grindy. You couldn't actually do what you wanted unless you were high enough level. The trolls you get to when you're around level 5. You'll be running past them until you hit around level 20 unless you have an overpowered pawn from a friend. But what if you don't want to use a friends OP pawn. I didn't considering everyone on my friends list had end game level pawns when I purchased the game. Maybe someone will balance it out to allow different weapons and such, but more Shadow of the Colossus like where the game had no leveling system where it was pretty much balanced start to end. Or maybe someone like FromSoftware will pick it up and have a leveling system, but balanced like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were fairly balanced.

Resident Evil could be bought up by someone who will let Shinji Mikami or Sony for Keiichiro Toyama(Silent Hill/Siren) to work on.

Although I bashed the game before playing it because of emo Dante, Ninja Theory did an excellent job with DmC Devil May Cry and debatably the best in the series.

Mega Man should go to someone who would care for the IP.

Kitsune Sniper
09-16-2013, 11:15 PM
Used to be one of my favorite game companies with squaresoft. But they havent really made anything that interests me in a long time. If they go down as long as someone picks up the Breath of Fire IP with plans to utilize it ill be happy.

If Squeenix goes down, the management will make sure all their franchises go with them. It's that stupid.

Jorpho
09-17-2013, 01:07 AM
Good. They were easily one of the best publishers and has an amazingn amount of great franchises in their library, but Capcom is a shell of its former self. No longer do they care about good games at all. Back then they released a constant stream of Street Fighter and fighting games, but they also released a lot of games in between them, even though they didn't sell amazingly well. Last gen as great as some of the games were, you heard nothing but how the game didn't sell well or as much as Capcom would have liked so people were leaving Capcom left and right, fired or otherwise. They practically threw away all their talent just to rehash the same games over and over, or games like Remember Me, Lost Planet, or what the Resident Evil series has turned into as of late.They still made Phoenix Wright V, at least. And they released Chronicles of Mystara, if that counts for anything.


So Sega doesn't give a crap about releasing Yakuza in the west, but what if they bought the Final Fight franchise and turned it into an western story Yakuza game, with US culture, etc.They made a Final Fight game for the PS2 game. It didn't sell.

"That's because they made it wrong!" is the obvious response. To which one might as well reply, "I guess they should make the greatest game ever then that everyone will want to buy! Yeah!"

The Adventurer
09-17-2013, 01:16 AM
If that money in the bank equates to actual profits on the books, rather then just liquid assets offset by a mountain of debts... They're doing better then some other publishers.

PreZZ
09-17-2013, 01:23 AM
If publishers like Capcom, Square and Sega eventually go down, we can't be too far off of a new video game crash. Even if they had so-so games lately, they were still top notch a gen ago?!

Gameguy
09-17-2013, 03:55 AM
Maybe they need to use kickstarter?

Bojay1997
09-17-2013, 02:09 PM
If that money in the bank equates to actual profits on the books, rather then just liquid assets offset by a mountain of debts... They're doing better then some other publishers.

It's simply their total cash on hand. That really doesn't tell us much, especially since we don't know their total assets and liabilities, nor do we know how much capital they have access to including lines of credit and other means of financing. Is $152 million insufficient? I don't really know and the article where it's discussed doesn't really provide enough information to make a rational judgment.

Atarileaf
09-17-2013, 05:55 PM
Wish I had 152 million in the bank. I guess its all perspective ;)

Kitsune Sniper
09-17-2013, 10:13 PM
They made a Final Fight game for the PS2 game. It didn't sell.

"That's because they made it wrong!" is the obvious response. To which one might as well reply, "I guess they should make the greatest game ever then that everyone will want to buy! Yeah!"

It didn't sell because Capcom Japan corporate fucked with the game from the start. What could've been a decent game was made worse because they wanted to make the game "more American."

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/finalfight/finalfight2.htm

I'm not saying the game would've sold millions if they hadn't intervened, but maybe, just maybe, we could've had a decent followup to the original games instead of... this. Which was okay but not that good.

Gamevet
09-17-2013, 10:26 PM
I blame it on Tekken vs. Street Fighter. It was Capcom's version of jumping the shark. :p

goob47
09-19-2013, 10:00 PM
Sigh... I have a bad feeling about this. First Atlus, then Capcom. The video game industry is going down the drain. Why couldn't I have grown up during the 16 bit wars?! :( Back when a game company simply had to have good games to win over the market, not just a shooter with the best graphics... Screw MLG, screw COD and Battlefield fanboys. I know there's still a large amount of people who love the unique genre Capcom is best at, but they've been hogging the spotlight for too long. Quit being so greedy, you assholes. :|

GhostDog
09-21-2013, 07:00 PM
I don't want Capcom to go. They had some of the best games for every major system starting with the NES. Some of my best arcade memories involved Capcom games and if you were there to experience the Street Fighter II craze then you will always have a soft spot for Capcom.

ACiD
09-21-2013, 07:30 PM
I don't want Capcom to go. They had some of the best games for every major system starting with the NES. Some of my best arcade memories involved Capcom games and if you were there to experience the Street Fighter II craze then you will always have a soft spot for Capcom.

I know this Soft Spot you're speaking of. They've made tons of quality games in the past it's sure one Publisher that I really cannot imagine the gaming culture of tomorrow doing without. Yeah, they've been making a lot of dumb moves lately but I don't believe they're hurting that much as the buzz is making it sound. Just a rumor if you ask me.

I imagine if Capcom does go under, Konami will eventually too. if both were to happen, the Industry is just about ready to flop over as a whole.

Edit: GhostDog, sure you'll appreciate this documentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gZBITO5GwI

GhostDog
09-21-2013, 09:51 PM
I know this Soft Spot you're speaking of. They've made tons of quality games in the past it's sure one Publisher that I really cannot imagine the gaming culture of tomorrow doing without. Yeah, they've been making a lot of dumb moves lately but I don't believe they're hurting that much as the buzz is making it sound. Just a rumor if you ask me.

I imagine if Capcom does go under, Konami will eventually too. if both were to happen, the Industry is just about ready to flop over as a whole.

Edit: GhostDog, sure you'll appreciate this documentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gZBITO5GwI

Thanks for the link. I have a huge stack of EGMs from the 90s mostly with some Gamepros in the mix and the Street Fighter II craze was insane as it seems that every issue from the early 90s and up dealt with Street Fighter II. I like Capcom generally more than Konami but Konami is still one hell of a company and if both of these companies went under then it will be a sad day for gamers who grew up with the companies. I'm amazed SEGA is still going despite making huge mistakes throughout the 90s.

Jorpho
09-22-2013, 10:35 AM
I'm amazed SEGA is still going despite making huge mistakes throughout the 90s.Sega is now owned by Sammy, which has a profitable business making pachinko machines, I understand.

Niku-Sama
09-22-2013, 07:36 PM
its what they get for shunning megman / rockman and their fans

PizzaKat
09-22-2013, 09:10 PM
If there was a video game crash, which I highly doubt. What would be the repercussions?

Niku-Sama
09-23-2013, 02:26 AM
not a whole lot of new games. if something huge failed this close to the launch of 2 new consoles they would probably fail and M$ and sony would try and push the previous generation or just close up their gaming divisions.

it would probably be like that for a few years until PC gamimg picked up because that's not going any where any time soon even if the market comes down, or some one pulls a Nintendo from the 80's move and resurrects it, my bet is that sega would pull such a move if it were to happen

Jorpho
09-23-2013, 10:48 PM
its what they get for shunning megman / rockman and their fansThey've made a bazillion Mega Man games at this point. Someone clearly ran the numbers and decided that another Mega Man game would not sell sufficiently well. It's not like someone decided "Mega Man sucks, we'll never make another one, screw the fans".

(Yes, Inafune's Kickstarter is making millions. So did the Double Fine Advenutre game.)

Niku-Sama
09-23-2013, 11:00 PM
they have actually done just that.
mega man legends 3 is done but got cancelled because of something done one said, basically.

they are saying screw the fans

The Adventurer
09-23-2013, 11:50 PM
Monster Hunter 4 appears to be selling gang busters (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/09/monster_hunter_4_launch_sales_estimated_to_be_a_se ries_high)

So I'm not sure why people are that worried about Capcom.




Also believing Mega Man Legends 3 is completed, sitting on a shelf somewhere, and being withheld by Capcom out of spite to its fans IS PURE INSANITY.

Griking
09-28-2013, 02:22 AM
If publishers like Capcom, Square and Sega eventually go down, we can't be too far off of a new video game crash. Even if they had so-so games lately, they were still top notch a gen ago?!

There will never be another crash like the one in the 80s. Then again, I really only care about PC gaming. Some large companies may fall but there are always new ones coming out regularly to replace them.