Sad but true.

[8-Bit Archeology]

I was checking around my games and wanted to finally try out
Jurassic Park Genesis Operation for the Xbox.
Put the game in and.....nothing.
So sadly I noticed two little cracks in the disk. (I am extremely careful with my games). I said oh well I guess its time to get a disk for it since I have it complete in mint. (I would do this for cheap games too) and on that note. I nearly freaked when I saw the $150.00 price tags on ebay. I know you cant fix cracks but damn. This one may have to wait a while.

:(

[Satoshi_Matrix]

well you could always softmod your xbox if you haven't already do so, find the .iso online and then either burn it to a dvd-r or extract it to the hdd if you have the space. Since you already own a copy that backup isn't a legal question either.

[8-Bit Archeology]

Are there guides to doing this?
I am ignorant to most mods and softwares.

[wiggyx]

well you could always softmod your xbox if you haven't already do so, find the .iso online and then either burn it to a dvd-r or extract it to the hdd if you have the space. Since you already own a copy that backup isn't a legal question either.

Ugh, such a misunderstood law that is. The legality of what you're suggesting is quite questionable, not that it matters in the least.

[8-Bit Archeology]

I thought you could make a single back-up for personal use. This is why i dont like mods. Theres a lot of questionable things we need to avoid. We have certain company that comes over that work with my wife. If any bootleg stuff happens to be seen she could lose her clearance and job. I get really cautious about mods.

[Leo_A]

It's my understanding that this backup stuff is oftentimes a justification for piracy (Like that old line from a few years ago where this is legal as long as you delete it within 24 hours of downloading if you don't own a original copy nonsense) rather than an accurate reflection of the often confusing and ambiguous laws that govern this stuff. And isn't some of what's actually allowed only cover you making your own personal backups rather than downloading a copy from an outside source?

Despite questionable legality, for it's worth, I think 99% of us would agree that morally he's in the clear beyond a shadow of a doubt if he owns the physical product.

[Greg2600]

Soft modding is pretty easy. However, you need to have the initial software either on an Xbox Memory card, or get a controller port to USB female adapter (ebay). Then you can load it from a flash drive, although the Xbox is picky about which flash drives it will see. That being said, if you only mod (no emulators/roms), you're not going to have room for more than 2-3 games at most, at a time, on the 8GB HDD.

It's really only worth it to change the harddrive. Granted this could up the price you're paying almost past the Jurassic Park game. If you are interested in going full on, the original Xbox can emulate tons of systems and arcade games. Check this guy out (www.gameovary.com), he's a regular on Atari Age.

[Pete Rittwage]

Technically, I don't think you have the right to make a backup copy anymore since the DMCA.

"The moment you crack DRM (Digital Rights Managemnt) to copy a game or DVD, you've violated Title I of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. 17 U.S.C. 1201 which prohibits circumvention of DRM. Some courts have tried to leaven this rather harsh rule, but most have not. While it's typically hard to detect small-scale circumvention, the question is whether bypassing DRM is legal. The statute sets up some minor exceptions, but most don't fall into any of them. So, the moment a studio protects the DVD with DRM, or a game disc or console with copy protection, it gains both a technical and a legal advantage—copying is almost certainly unlawful."

Remember, whether you believe it is "fair" does not affect the court. You agreed to this when you purchased, opened, and played the game.

[mercuryshadow09]

Soft modding is pretty easy. However, you need to have the initial software either on an Xbox Memory card, or get a controller port to USB female adapter (ebay). Then you can load it from a flash drive, although the Xbox is picky about which flash drives it will see. That being said, if you only mod (no emulators/roms), you're not going to have room for more than 2-3 games at most, at a time, on the 8GB HDD.

It's really only worth it to change the harddrive. Granted this could up the price you're paying almost past the Jurassic Park game. If you are interested in going full on, the original Xbox can emulate tons of systems and arcade games. Check this guy out (www.gameovary.com), he's a regular on Atari Age.

That guy charges a lot, you can get a soft-mod kit on Isozone for $30.

[Tanooki]

Technically, I don't think you have the right to make a backup copy anymore since the DMCA.

"The moment you crack DRM (Digital Rights Managemnt) to copy a game or DVD, you've violated Title I of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. 17 U.S.C. 1201 which prohibits circumvention of DRM. Some courts have tried to leaven this rather harsh rule, but most have not. While it's typically hard to detect small-scale circumvention, the question is whether bypassing DRM is legal. The statute sets up some minor exceptions, but most don't fall into any of them. So, the moment a studio protects the DVD with DRM, or a game disc or console with copy protection, it gains both a technical and a legal advantage—copying is almost certainly unlawful."

Remember, whether you believe it is "fair" does not affect the court. You agreed to this when you purchased, opened, and played the game.

That only affects something after the point that law was put into effect, and there are exemptions to it as well so you need to look into the finer details. Because it doesn't back date to older tech is why places around such as retrousb gets away with those CIC chips they created to get around the NES with their homebrew carts because those same carts along with what infinite lives does openly selling copiers and boards with their CIC on it get around the lockout and are legit.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

The exact legality of it aside, I see no problem with someone wanting to play a backup of a game they already own but can't play for whatever reason - scratched/damaged disc, or maybe they lack the original hardware to play those games on, or want to enhance their experience. For example, I play Sega CD games on my Ouya as they run better and load much much faster than using a real Sega CD.

In this situation, its more than justified IMO.

[Tanooki]

I agree from an emotional standpoint but legally you own the specific license you paid for under that asinine law so despite owning it, if youre caught downloading youre screwed which sucks of course unless you ISOd your own CDs then youre cool.

I also saw a beefier double storage size Ouya is out now with repairs to the pad so theres no longer lag. Im very tempted but the rumored ouya 2 bugs me. I dont like the idea they could do yearly or biyearly update making it useless due to new games using better parts.

[kupomogli]

Something as new as an Xbox 360 game you could have your internet suspended for DMCA violations, depending on whether they're tracking it or not, but the legality of downloaded software, etc, is that no one is pushing too hard on making sure it doesn't happen and the average person that does download will more than likely never see a lawsuit no matter how much they download. Same with an MP3, same with a movie, etc. Only stuff that they put up and they're specifically tracking as well.

Downloading and playing software is really in a moral grey area. I doubt most people wouldn't care and wouldn't show any disrespect towards you if it's an older game of a previous gen and I doubt most people would care if it's current gen if you owned a copy. If you have good intentions, then ignore what people on the internet think.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I also believe in the moral component where you should first consider if there are other means of obtaining your game that would directly benefit the creators. By buying a game new, you support the developer, and that's their livelihood.

But with games as old as anything on the original Xbox, that just isn't true anymore. Even if you were to buy the game brand new now, the money would just go to a third party who has had horded it for the past bunch of years.

When you download retro games -especially those you own but can't play for one reason or another- it's very much a victimless "crime".

It's a totally different story for anything that's still viable though.

[Tanooki]

I agree it's victimless really, problem is the stupid gov't here doesn't agree. Sure odds are nothing will ever happen short of making a notice of yourself running GB of data daily of MP3s or some other modern computer games/apps that eventually they sniff out proof and records to knock on your door, it just won't happen.

[mercuryshadow09]

Something as new as an Xbox 360 game you could have your internet suspended for DMCA violations, depending on whether they're tracking it or not, but the legality of downloaded software, etc, is that no one is pushing too hard on making sure it doesn't happen

I think this is the case, I back up every disc I buy, movie or game and I've received about six mailed threats for copyright infringement since 2007, never anything more than threats to throttle my connection or suspend me altogether!

[Ed Oscuro]

I was checking around my games and wanted to finally try out
This response is in a totally different direction from most of the others in the thread - did you know there's a PC version? It's reportedly very easy to use mods with (no DRM cracking required).

[8-Bit Archeology]

Is there a site that has a digital copy for sale?

[Jorpho]

For $150 you could probably get a used PS2 and a copy of the PS2 version, and still have plenty of money left over.