Trying to find another way to finance a Panzer Dragoon Saga purchase

[LINK398]

Also a question....when a game gets released on a new console lets say Chrono Trigger for example does anyone think its smart to sell the SNES original. It seems some games prices have gone down and some have gone up. Final Fantasy III for the SNES seems to have gone down to around $40 but games like Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG have gone up to around $60 or even $70 maybe I should sell my SNES games since I have newer copies on newer consoles. The only ones I could see keeping are Secret of Evermore and Secret of Mana because they havent been released on newer consoles except by download. But those other 2 and even Final Fantasy II for the SNES could bring in a nice little chunk of change towards the Saturn game

[Arkanoid_Katamari]

It's ur call, bro. Personally, I prefer to play the original versions on the original systems, but I'm a purist.

[Tanooki]

Considering the later releases are poorer versions, though I'd think perhaps the DS-Chrono Trigger being an exception on that one, it would be a bad idea.

I have no idea if you're 12 or 32 so find another source. Mow lawns, wash cars, donate fluids? Or perhaps you have duplicates or games you DON'T care about and those can go first.

[SparTonberry]

I thought the DS version was a fairly good port. It solved the two complaints I had about the PS1 version: load times and poorly-emulated sound.

[Arkanoid_Katamari]

Personally, I'm not into getting the super-priced games. At least at this point. I haven't got the budget, and I'd rather pay 1/10th the price for a different game that's also fantastic. Luckily, RPG's aren't my number one genre of games, so it makes collecting way easier. But then again, Im totally for someone attaining a rare and valuable game like Panzer Dragoon Saga. That's why I collect a lot of Ps1 and PS2 games, cuz 90% of them r only a few bucks. Even the best ones. I got Shadow of the Colossus for $10 boxed and complete on Amazon. And I can guarantee u it's up there with the best of the best.

[Rickstilwell1]

You could buy a modchipped + unibios Saturn and burn a copy of every game including that one for the same price as that game alone if all you want to do is play it. Being willing to sell your SNES originals for the PS1 versions makes it sound like you're more into gaming than collecting after all.

[Tron 2.0]

Put in a mod chip to play burns or buy the japanese version of pds since in price it's cheaper.

[Edmond Dantes]

Also a question....when a game gets released on a new console lets say Chrono Trigger for example does anyone think its smart to sell the SNES original.

It depends on the specific game, and whether there's changes, and if those changes improve the experience or worsen it. In Chrono Trigger's case I never thought the ports were as good as the original. In any case, think about it: You're selling a game... so you can buy the same game again on a different platform? What sense does THAT make? Just keep the game you already have.

But selling one game to afford another, completely different game (IE selling SNES RPGs to afford Panzer Dragoon Saga)? That's totally up to you.


Put in a mod chip to play burns or buy the japanese version of pds since in price it's cheaper.

Of course, if he doesn't speak or read Japanese then that won't help him much.

[Rickstilwell1]

It depends on the specific game, and whether there's changes, and if those changes improve the experience or worsen it. In Chrono Trigger's case I never thought the ports were as good as the original. In any case, think about it: You're selling a game... so you can buy the same game again on a different platform? What sense does THAT make? Just keep the game you already have.

But selling one game to afford another, completely different game (IE selling SNES RPGs to afford Panzer Dragoon Saga)? That's totally up to you.



Of course, if he doesn't speak or read Japanese then that won't help him much.

Unibios Saturn systems coupled with a modchip it can read Legit USA games, USA CD-r's, legit Japanese games and CD-r's of Japanese games. No Action Replay even needed. He wouldn't even need to play the Japanese version because he could find an ISO of the English version on the internet.

[davidbrit2]

I vote mod chip. The Saturn ones are pretty easy to install. I only had to solder one or two wires. You'll still need a 4-in-1 Action Replay if you want to play imports, but they do enough other things that they're worth having anyway.

[Rickstilwell1]

I vote mod chip. The Saturn ones are pretty easy to install. I only had to solder one or two wires. You'll still need a 4-in-1 Action Replay if you want to play imports, but they do enough other things that they're worth having anyway.

You don't need it to play imports if you take out the USA Bios and install a unibios. A member here does that mod.

[bb_hood]

I vote mod chip. The Saturn ones are pretty easy to install. I only had to solder one or two wires. You'll still need a 4-in-1 Action Replay if you want to play imports, but they do enough other things that they're worth having anyway.

Pretty Easy? Try super easy. Yeah I remember soldering 2 very easy points and that was it.
Ive heard people say that the ProAction will wear out the cart port, but I dont know. Ive never come across this problem and Ive delt with very many used saturns. There is no reason to remove the cart once its in. Also, the pro action has the extra ram needed for Capcom fighting games, and has save data backup.
Strictly speaking a mod chip and pro action cart is the cheapest/easiest way to start playing burned games.

If I were you I would not be willing to drop so much cash on Panzer saga. Its not that good of a game. Sure its really rare but Final Fantasy II, FFIII, Secret of Mana, and Chrono are all much, much better games IMO. If you want some really good saturn games get Magic Knight Rayearth or Guardian Heroes.

[davidbrit2]

You don't need it to play imports if you take out the USA Bios and install a unibios. A member here does that mod.

Is it a socketed chip, or do you have to desolder the old chip to replace it? AR is a lot less work, plus you get save backup storage and RAM expansion.

[Rickstilwell1]

Is it a socketed chip, or do you have to desolder the old chip to replace it? AR is a lot less work, plus you get save backup storage and RAM expansion.

I heard the Action Replay ruins your cartridge port over time due to having thicker pins than the official Sega brand ram and memory cartridges.

I'm not sure how the BIOS mod works. Ask APE992 as he knows quite a bit about console mods. He usually sells premodded Playstation 1's and 2's but occasionally has a Saturn in stock or will take an order on doing a mod if you send in a console.

[ggallegos1]

I would go mod chip if you're just into playing the game. If you're that into getting a CIB copy, then you could reevaluate some of the games you do have and see exactly what it is you are actually going to play and enjoy and sell what you cannot justify having. If anything, I'd donate fluids on my spare time, or save some money each paycheck for just that game so that, by the time you have the necessary funds, you're good to go

[bb_hood]

I heard the Action Replay ruins your cartridge port over time due to having thicker pins than the official Sega brand ram and memory cartridges.



It might wear it out somewhat, but straight out ruin I highly doubt. Ive had the same pro action in my saturn for maybe 10 years or so. Works fine, Ive taken it out and put it back in numerous times.
I think statements that it will straight out ruin the port are exaggerated.

[LINK398]

I ended up just buying the game and deciding what to about selling other games for later. Im getting a bit of money that is extra and I also got some at the beginning of the year but didnt really do anything special with it kinda just spent it on garbage. So I dont want to let the same thing happen again. The seller said the first disc had a deep scratch on both sides towards the center of the disc where the CD drive holds the disc and that it didnt effect gameplay. Then it turned out that it was probably a crack not a scratch which made me a little more nervous because even though the game plays fine and doesnt read that part of the game thats still holding the disc in place while its playing and it'll just get worse. The seller said he had another copy and just replaced that disc with another one. So I should get the game soon. As far as the discussion on SNES games the first and foremost problem is the age of the games and the condition of the battery. If they are still good they can still go whenever and I'm not looking forward to replacing the batteries or sending them out for a repair. I know its relatively quick and simple but I just dont want to be bothered unless I have to. Also I dont really use my SNES anymore in fact its not even plugged in and all of the games are kinda put away. I also look at a newer console and a newer version of the game as being more reliable and dont mind for example the loading screens in the playstation version of Chrono Trigger at all. I dont really mind selling the original copies if I have the newer copies as I tend to prefer to play those anyway. Like Final Fantasy VI on the Game Boy Advance instead of playing the SNES versions. The only reason of keeping them is really nostalgia because I bought a lot of those games as a kid and they were some of my first RPG's even though I didnt get them right when they came out it was still a while ago though. One old game that hasnt been remade that I might consider buying is Earthbound as its only available on a cartridge for the SNES but I would want to buy one with a brand new battery and what would be even better is one that had a battery clip installed so the battery could be taken out and replaced if need be later on. Plus it would look good displaying it next to Suikoden II Lunar Silver Star Story Complete Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Complete and Panzer Dragoon Saga when it gets there. I know Earthbound is available as a download on Wii U but I don t have that console and I havent really been too interested in the game so that can wait. Also does anyone know of any game battery replacement services except retrogamecave.com maybe one that also installs a battery clip in the game

[SparTonberry]

I'm a bit mixed on whether I'd consider the GBA version over the SNES version of FF6.
The extra content and newer translation is nice (though they took out the Woolsey quotes) as was fixing most of the famous bugs, but the downgraded music is a big minus as well as, I recall, there was quite a bit of slowdown in the game, especially spell animation.

[ggallegos1]

I'm a bit mixed on whether I'd consider the GBA version over the SNES version of FF6.
The extra content and newer translation is nice (though they took out the Woolsey quotes) as was fixing most of the famous bugs, but the downgraded music is a big minus as well as, I recall, there was quite a bit of slowdown in the game, especially spell animation.

They also cut out Celes' getting a beat down in jail. unfortunate, but it happens.

As far as selling older games go, they are very reliable, and with a modicum of soldering skills the batteries can be replaced. Nowadays, as collectors we (or at least I) understand that games may or may not save anymore due to the battery, and if it does save now wthout a replacement it will need one in a very short time span. If youre so concerned for the resale value, get some batteries online and solder them up to the carts youre going to sell so they are guaranteed to sell.

[SparTonberry]

I know. The text is pretty much identical to the SNES version (the translator mentioned in an RPGamer interviewed they censored it to get an A rating in Japan, but he didn't mention why the text was thus left sounding weird).

[Tron 2.0]

Of course, if he doesn't speak or read Japanese then that won't help him much.
I know but since the u.s version of panzer dragoon saga cost a fortune now i thought it was the best option.

[courtesi1]

I wish the games I were interested in were only $60-$70..

[wiggyx]

^^^ you and everyone else, hence the price.

[Rickstilwell1]

Hence the modchip recommendation. Everyone should just do that for a while then maybe the prices will just go down.