High-Priced Ghouls n' Ghosts Ebay Listing

[The Clonus Horror]

Are you $%^&-ing KIDDING ME?!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghouls-n-Ghosts-Factory-Sealed-NES-SNES-N64-Genesis-1989-/201051591694?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2ecf9bd40e

[The Clonus Horror]

I also love how the lister has NES, SNES, and N64 in the heading. Give. Me. A. Break.

[Gatucaman]

Are you $%^&-ing KIDDING ME?!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ghouls-n-Ghosts-Factory-Sealed-NES-SNES-N64-Genesis-1989-/201051591694?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2ecf9bd40e

Too Fuckin bad Ebay doesnt have an option for Reporting Price Abuse.

Only 2 things could happen, the jackass will not relist it to gave teh impression that it sold to most people who dont bother to check the original list.
Or some hipster will buy it and post it on Facebook claiming to be a Deal and then re-seller for even more.

[pocketgamer]

actually, there is an option for reporting the seller at the bottom corner, I doubt there is much ebay would do about the price gauging though.@_@

[RP2A03]

Too Fuckin bad Ebay doesnt have an option for Reporting Price Abuse.

Yes, because instead of ignoring it and moving on it is far more sensible to rage about it and demand that eBay remove the listing.

[ggallegos1]

not even VGA graded. I'll pay $40 shipped, but that's being generous

[T2KFreeker]

Yay! Go for it. That's a steal of a price man! Stupid...

[YoshiM]

That doesn't look like a factory seal, though it's been ages.

[ggallegos1]

someone make an offer to see how low he'll go

[Tanooki]

Wow pretty ballsy considering the majority of the assholes who sullied the Nintendo market are hands off when it comes to Sega. He's just greed, stupid, or both. It's a good game, but really, that much? I doubt he could get that for a stack of GnG prototypes of the NES, SNES, SMS and Genesis combined.

[Scissors]

That doesn't look like a factory seal, though it's been ages.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. The pictures aren't too great, but it doesn't look like it has the hangtab either.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

This pisses me off, but for not the reason it does for you guys.

My question is, why does this sort of thing bother you people so much?

It's a free market. People are entitled to sell their own property for whatever amount they want. He could ask for one dollar or a trillion dollars, and it wouldn't make any difference. You guys are even going to the extreme by saying that it's too bad you can't report him for doing this. Doing what, selling an item he owns for a price he has hopes it will sell for?

Most likely it won't sell, but even if it does, why would any of you care? It's OBVIOUS that this isn't worth $5000 to 99.9% of people, but if this guy wants to aim for that .1%, why would that bother any of you? Just passive aggressiveness?

[bigbacon]

even if you reported it for search pratices, they would never remove the item.

I have reported SO many items for things and I have never seen one taken down.

[Rickstilwell1]

I think it pisses people off most of the time, because in the occasion an item does sell for a crazy price, that price gets eyeballed by others and becomes the expected new high price that everyone thinks they can sell their item for. Then it tricks people into thinking they can only get the item on demand for that high of a price when it used to be had for lower.

And then when you post wanted ads, you get a ton of idiots sending you emails that you'll never find a broken NES to repair yourself for $10 because they're worth "thousands or dollars", and they'll have your craigslist want ad removed because of it.

With this Sega Genesis game I think that would be less of a worry as long as there are plenty other sealed copies to buy on ebay from time to time. This one also isn't being attempted to sell on some reality TV show.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

but again, its a free market. market value fluctuates and is depends on what people are willing to spend. lets say that this does somehow sell for $5000. Are other sellers really going to start trying to sell to that .1% by copying that? There are overpriced listings all over the place, but those listings just sit there. And its not exclusive to online. In my town there's a cart-only EarthBound for SNES that's priced at $350. Its the seller's decision if they want to see that much, but as a result its sat there on that shelf for the last six months, unsold.

This kind of thing I think is is silly and should be ignored. By discussing this listing, we're giving this guy free advertising, and publicity.

[PizzaKat]

Im gonna offer him 10 bucks

[Tanooki]

Satoshi you're right, he has a right to do it and try and cater to that 0.1% who have that kind of dough and lack the common sense to research the real value. The problem is all it takes is one dick to screw up the values for weeks, months, or permanently depending how high they shoot for the stars and that's what's offensive.

I'm looking for Ogre Battle right now. Up until a week ago you could bag one with no label damage for about $60 shipped, lucky up to $10 less but usually with minor label problems. Some douche put one up for $110 on a BIN and a fool rapidly clicked to buy it. Ever since that point all the stuff going up now wants like $75 for damaged and $90-110 BIN (or start with higher bin) for the same game loose. It just fucks up the averages for people. I'm sure it'll come down eventually as the newest posts in the last day that are reposts have a lower value, but it's just a damned inconvenience, and odds are someone perhaps WILL pay when it hits $70-80 and that'll help create a newer higher average price which sucks all traced back to one assholes greed and another with no common sense clicking BINs in a panic to be first. It's a vicious cycle of asshole behavior between predatory resellers consistently viewing the highest price and adding like 5 bucks and the toolbox newbies who buy into it or the panicked buyer who thinks it will continue to escalate quickly. Sometimes they fall back (Firepower 2000), sometimes they drop some but maintain a new high often (Run Saber 10->30), and other shit just rises to a stupid height and stays there give or take a little wiggle.

Yes it's the market, but it's market manipulation as the basest greediest level using the sucker uninformed fringe to hose the masses over time.

[Gatucaman]

but again, its a free market.

Really?, you think that still holds up today?, do you realize that you are kinda, you know, helping the problem?.

Look at Magical Pop on Ebay, the game used to be cheap, and how it has skyrocketed

http://i.imgur.com/CcO2PWn.jpg (http://imgur.com/CcO2PWn)

Do you think this is Fair to YOU?

[BlastProcessing402]

This pisses me off, but for not the reason it does for you guys.

My question is, why does this sort of thing bother you people so much?

It's a free market. People are entitled to sell their own property for whatever amount they want. He could ask for one dollar or a trillion dollars, and it wouldn't make any difference. You guys are even going to the extreme by saying that it's too bad you can't report him for doing this. Doing what, selling an item he owns for a price he has hopes it will sell for?

Most likely it won't sell, but even if it does, why would any of you care? It's OBVIOUS that this isn't worth $5000 to 99.9% of people, but if this guy wants to aim for that .1%, why would that bother any of you? Just passive aggressiveness?

He can charge what he wants, I don't care, if some sucker has that kinda dough to waste on something marked up hundreds of times over what it's worth, oh well.

BUT... it appears this seller is actually lying about the item. It looks suspiciously like a reseal, not a factory seal as he claims, I mean, the lack of a hang tab, that's a big glaring problem.

Put whatever you want up on sale for whatever price you want but once you lie about what you're actually selling, that's worth getting bothered about.

[SparTonberry]

Really?, you think that still holds up today?, do you realize that you are kinda, you know, helping the problem?.

Look at Magical Pop on Ebay, the game used to be cheap, and how it has skyrocketed

Do you think this is Fair to YOU?

What is your definition of "cheap" and how long ago was it.
Even when I was mass-purchasing SFC games the last couple years, Magical Pop'n was at least $100 loose anywhere.

[StoneAgeGamer]

Really?, you think that still holds up today?, do you realize that you are kinda, you know, helping the problem?.

Look at Magical Pop on Ebay, the game used to be cheap, and how it has skyrocketed

Do you think this is Fair to YOU?

Last time I checked sellers do not owe it to you to sell you video games at a price you want. You also don't owe it to the seller to buy it at the price they asked. I am not understanding the issue.

Also its is a bit hypocritical. People seems to think its only fair for them to demand a lower price from a seller, but if the seller asks for a higher price than the buyer want to pay then somehow the seller is a greedy . However you could technically say the same thing about the buyer demanding a lower price, they are also being greedy. This is the eternal struggle of the free market and greed is the biggest driver. Sellers want to sell something for the highest price they can, buyers want to buy it for the lowest price they can. If no compromise can be met then both the seller and buyer walk away empty handed. If the seller never compromises on price and can't sell their goods then they will go out of business, that's their problem.

Sure there are cases where someone can attempt to corner the market on rare items, but this is a huge risk they are taking. If I went and bought all the Nintendo World Championships I could. Basically just offered a ton of money to everyone known to have one so I basically corner the market on them. What if no one buys them at the ridiculous asking price I would have to ask to make it worth my while? Well I am royally screwed most likely. Unless I am just that rich where that money means nothing to me and if that's the case why the hell am I buying NWC to re-sell? Seems like a pretty piss-poor strategy to make money I don't even really need.

Right now the retro gaming market is sky high, no doubt about that. However this happens with any kind of collector's market, prices rise and fall. These prices will eventually fall. If the prices are too high for you right now then I would just wait. Give it a few years and try again.

[wayultratech]

Damn that price is steep as hell. Location of seller is near Los Angeles, and over the years i have had many instances of walking into retro game stores in the LA area and seeing "factory sealed" or "brand new never opened" games with worn cardboard visible on the edges and elsewhere among many other inconsistencies when compared to genuine factory seals. This particular listing may be somebody believing they have a sealed game (although price is still brutal!!) or simply somebody who is not necessarily really into gaming/retro-gaming but who has a plastic-wrapped game & is sittin' there thinking "People pay hella for sealed, old-ass games right?"

This is all speculation, but overall i think these type of listings provided a much needed comedic relief to the ever-daunting ebay scene

[Satoshi_Matrix]

again, you guys do realize the only thing this thread accomplishes is publicly promoting this guy right?

I honestly think the best way of addressing this "problem" is to ignore it. As stoneagegamer said, sellers do not owe it to you to sell at a price you want and you also don't owe it to the seller to buy at the price asked.

Also, you guys are acting like this is a unique thing that never occurs on free market auction sites. News flash: this happens ALL THE TIME with EVERYTHING. Ever walk into an antique shop looking at vintage furniture? The same overly optimistic sellers can be found in every town the world over with everything of any value, or otherwise.

[fairyland]

even if you reported it for search pratices, they would never remove the item.

I have reported SO many items for things and I have never seen one taken down.

I've had many items taken down because people reported me, but I've not had anything removed in at least 8 years or so. I like to believe it's because I've learned my lessons about how not to keyword spam, but I think it's because they went cheap and removed most of the staff that used to over look this stuff.

In the old days, it really depended on who sees the request and if they have any clue about the item. I had one item removed that was something like "Neon Genesis Evangelion Japan Anime UFO Catcher Plush Rei in Plugsuit". The spam notice I got said although it's a catcher, it's not a UFO (or the other way around) which made no sense at all. They had no clue what a UFO Catcher was!

That is assuming that even a human looked at it. I think they use programs to do all of this now and they are just programmed badly. Go check out doujinshi for just about any anime title and you can easily find a lot of obviously highly illegal pronographic covers. In the old days people used to rat sellers out for that stuff and the item was taken down in in a few hours. Now days it you just cannot get one of them removed.


Really?, you think that still holds up today?, do you realize that you are kinda, you know, helping the problem?.

Look at Magical Pop on Ebay, the game used to be cheap, and how it has skyrocketed

Do you think this is Fair to YOU?

I checked Amazon Japan and the cheapest one is about $125 US. I couldn't find a single one on Yahoo Japan auctions. All one really needs to do is know where shop around to find the lowest price. I don't know what's considered fair on this cart but if it's hard to get then around $200 is probably really fair if you are not going to get one anywhere else EASILY for cheaper.

The thing with ebay as a seller you must start insanely high if there is no one else selling one. Then you go about $10 lower than the other guy if you have one. This repeats over and over again until the market is flooded and everyone is trying to sell theirs for next to nothing.

What happens then is that rare stuff or stuff with high demand will always have high prices and the market equals itself. Either people eventually cave in and pay the high prices or it'll never sell and it'll keep going lower until it does. Smart dealers like myself always keep lowering the price every few weeks until it does sell. This is the method to best optimize your profits on collectibles as quite honestly a lot of sellers has no clue what things are fairly worth, all they know is what ebay currently has to say about it, so they use that a guide to sell their stuff by.

Also, think about this situation moralistically. Isn't it hypercritical of us to say that a seller is taking advantage of us and the "system", yet no one finds it just as morally wrong when another seller is selling something too cheaply? Wouldn't it be right to tell him that it's too cheap and for you to offer to pay a fair price? One that the market is bearing instead of snapping the item, throwing him the money and running like hell before you get caught and the item taken away from you?

Of course this rarely happens, but it's the same morality. As I take constant advantage of people selling stuff too cheaply for my business, I never worry about those that sell stuff too high, nor do I ask for a discount. What's important is the KNOWLEDGE behind your buying and selling and the EFFORT you put into it. There is never going to be a fair world where everyone has a set fair price and everyone gets what they want. Rarity and demand assures us of that. Prices are high on ebay because it's the easiest way to get something. If you work hard at learning and trying to get stuff and can wait to get the best deal, you will probably get what you want cheaply someday. But if you want the convenience of having it now, then you will pay, usually though the nose. That's how buying collectibles is like.

So the mature thing to do whenever you see something over priced is to just move on to the next seller and hope you can take advantage of him. Do not worry about his business and mind your own affairs. Unless you really do want to be moralistically correct thing and offer to pay the fair going rates and etc. You probably won't ever get a seller to come down, but you'd make someone feel really good by offering to pay more.

[wiggyx]

This pisses me off, but for not the reason it does for you guys.

My question is, why does this sort of thing bother you people so much?

It's a free market. People are entitled to sell their own property for whatever amount they want. He could ask for one dollar or a trillion dollars, and it wouldn't make any difference. You guys are even going to the extreme by saying that it's too bad you can't report him for doing this. Doing what, selling an item he owns for a price he has hopes it will sell for?

Most likely it won't sell, but even if it does, why would any of you care? It's OBVIOUS that this isn't worth $5000 to 99.9% of people, but if this guy wants to aim for that .1%, why would that bother any of you? Just passive aggressiveness?

Why did you make a post to complain about other people complaining? :P

People like to complain. It's a thing.

[Niku-Sama]

I'm going to complain about you saying people complaining is a thing.

....I have no ammo to complain

Just like most of you guys don't really have much to complain about here. Don't buy it, call the dude a dumb ass, go on with life.

Rinse, repeat when necessary...

[wiggyx]

Yeah, it's lame, but pretty easy to ignore for me.

[bigbacon]

I'm going to complain about you saying people complaining is a thing.

....I have no ammo to complain

Just like most of you guys don't really have much to complain about here. Don't buy it, call the dude a dumb ass, go on with life.

Rinse, repeat when necessary...


exactly....a few of the gaming facebook pages I belong to have some threads going where people are like angry at sellers who price their stuff WAY high and don't seem to get it at all....It is amazing, like they expect those people to do as the please because they are some know it all collector...

If they'd just get over it and move on with life...don't like prices, you don't buy, and that concept is difficult for some.

[Tanooki]

I think some of the buyer anger is when you have a history up to date of a sales range X game goes for, then you get a few people who will try and mark it another 10-20% higher and religiously just leave it up there, some may even have a ebay-offer option and not come down more than 1-5% off it firmly. The stuff can and will sit for months, but as with any hobby newbies pop up who don't think or research and they may just buy that copy. When that copy is bought precedent is made and others will see that and make a similar move against the prices copying the 'victor' of that high one while others will try another escalation. And the dog just keeps chasing the tail, biting it, feeling the pain, and then stupidly goes back to it again. The hate isn't totally justified on the behavior of the seller but also the tool who bought it at an overly high price helping to move the needle northward.

I'm still watching Ogre Battle for SNES and ever since that one jackass paid $110 for a loose cart on a BIN the new listings aren't still starting around $50~ but around $75-100 instead. The stuff thankfully isn't being purchased other than one copy in a lot of 8 other titles where the fair value of it all had the guy paying $80 on the game which is up from the $60~ sales rate of history. It will be interesting to see if this is the stupid moment, or it falls back to where it was. It's this kind of stuff I think is what gets the pissed off entitled sounding buyers because it just takes potentially one higher paid item by a fool to ruin it for everyone else.

[Hwj_Chim]

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. The pictures aren't too great, but it doesn't look like it has the hangtab either.

I am with you that really looks like a reseal. You can report him for that.

[Flashback2012]

Where's the hang tab? :?

I have access to a shrinkwrapping machine and could do a better job than this guy's reseal. :D

[FoxNtd]

That's nice, did he make that yesterday? PAL back cover with the Genesis logo covering the PAL Mega Drive logo, who is that fooling? All the text in the various European languages is still there.

http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?cover_id=11848

For easy comparison. Looks like the US cover otherwise but that back cover's content is from the PAL cover.

I'm shocked nobody else picked up on this. US Genesis games don't have text in French, German, etc. on the back.

[Scissors]

That's nice, did he make that yesterday? PAL back cover with the Genesis logo covering the PAL Mega Drive logo, who is that fooling? All the text in the various European languages is still there.

http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?cover_id=11848

For easy comparison. Looks like the US cover otherwise but that back cover's content is from the PAL cover.

I'm shocked nobody else picked up on this. US Genesis games don't have text in French, German, etc. on the back.

It's the Canadian version.

[FoxNtd]

It's the Canadian version.

Are you serious? There's no EN/FR version, they just slap the EU back cover on there with six languages? The thought was so absurd I figured it was fake >_>

[Scissors]

Are you serious? There's no EN/FR version, they just slap the EU back cover on there with six languages? The thought was so absurd I figured it was fake >_>

I'm serious. Not many people seem to know or care about the Canadian versions. Here's another Canadian Ghouls 'N Ghosts:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251388409523

Castle of Illusion is another one with the European back art (also note the European style manual):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251423713511

Not all of them are like that though. Altered Beast has only English and French:

www.ebay.com/itm/231181303784

[FoxNtd]

Canadian versions are horrible. Documentation practically forgets they exist, and they often look like they could be fake. (For instance, The Cover Project, do they even have CAN covers?!) Apparently it's completely random if they do a proper EN/FR only redesign or just merge in a portion of the PAL packaging which has half a dozen languages. So lazy!! /facepalm

[Edmond Dantes]

Thing of interest to me because of this thread:

WTF is Magical Pop'n?

If I only had the title to go on I'd think it was a porn game, but since I know its for the SFC and its got a cutesy cover art... I'm guessing platformer or puzzle game?

[JSoup]

Thing of interest to me because of this thread:

WTF is Magical Pop'n?

If I only had the title to go on I'd think it was a porn game, but since I know its for the SFC and its got a cutesy cover art... I'm guessing platformer or puzzle game?

Let me Google that for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Magical+Pop%27n

[SparTonberry]

Thing of interest to me because of this thread:

WTF is Magical Pop'n?

If I only had the title to go on I'd think it was a porn game, but since I know its for the SFC and its got a cutesy cover art... I'm guessing platformer or puzzle game?

Well, according to Gideon, who made the translation patch, the main character was voiced by a porn star.

[Bloodreign]

Played Magical Pop' N via emulation, was quite impressed, but the impression of the value then left me flat. It's a great game, very fun to play with the magic items and the one item that lets you swing from things.

As for GnG, I bow out, I got a boxed copy years ago for $10. :)

[BlastProcessing402]

exactly....a few of the gaming facebook pages I belong to have some threads going where people are like angry at sellers who price their stuff WAY high and don't seem to get it at all....It is amazing, like they expect those people to do as the please because they are some know it all collector...

If they'd just get over it and move on with life...don't like prices, you don't buy, and that concept is difficult for some.

I wish people would get that about GameStop too. Oh they buy it from you for less than half what you paid but sell it for just a few bucks less than new. So? Don't like their prices, don't sell/buy with them, but there's nothing evil about "buy low sell high".