XBox One now 400, anyone getting it?

[PizzaKat]

Looks like a bitter pill to swallow for Microsoft, but it was inevitable I guess. I had a 360 but after I got the PS3 it collected dust. Sony just has more to offer me. Anyone thinking of getting it?

[Rickstilwell1]

The Xbox brand system is always the last system I buy each generation regardless. I was always into Nintendo, Sega and Sony. This newcomer on the console scene has just never impressed me beyond what the already established franchise providers could do. I actually dislike the original Xbox in the sense that it stole some once Nintendo and Sony exclusive franchises including Rare's games and Oddworld. Luckily Oddworld is going back into the multiplatform territory but Rare just hasn't been the same.

I only buy Xbox systems once they have an exclusive I really want to play. Oddworld, Morrowind, Fable, Blue Dragon etc are things that come to mind. Halo never interested me though. I'm not into shooters except the Nintendo 64 007 titles.

[DeputyMoniker]

Nah. I have a 360 and never liked the controller. I much prefer the Dual Shock, so I went PS4 this time. Further, I really don't like Microsoft as a company. I have to deal with them in my line of work and their licensing is such a pain in the ass, I just don't like giving them my money. I'd prefer to support a U.S. company but not this one. Same to be said for Google...their enterprise support is shit and I try to avoid doing business with them, too. The bad press doesn't do XBOX any favors, either. This is all too little, too late, IMO.

[Nebagram]

It's only dropping to £350 in the UK and it's not hard to find a decent quality used one with Kinect for that price so I'm skipping until it drops to under £300 or there's a true exclusive killer app for it.

[Leo_A]

Someday, Microsoft's Xbox brand has largely lost me so it will be the final addition to my collection. Will likely occur some years down the road when it's $200 or so and there are at least a half dozen exclusives around $20 or so each.

[Tanooki]

Hehe was hoping to see a thread for this. MS keeps paying for their arrogant mistakes one after another it appears. As much as the WiiU has not been moving I was surprised to find it still had outsold the One because of the crappy price combined with all the bad will they created before it came out with DRM and the rest. I also was shocked to find they had the ball to charge users for their yearly service just to use free apps like Netflix you pay those people to watch movies on, it was a double charge they've now removed.

I'm curious to see if the sales pick up. If you're not deep into Halo, Gears and Forza they have really nothing to offer you can't get on the PC already like Titanfall so they still have that against them as Sony has a heap of IPs they control.

The sad thing is, the price drop won't help I think largely at this early point. Those who have it and could care about price do, those who want it and care about price have been buying them used with games for less (the other DP thread on them selling for like 45% off retail value at $500.) There's no value in it, and MS is taking a larger hit plus also admitting the Kinect thing people may actually hate (shock!) watching them all the time.

[Flashback2012]

It looks like others share the same sentiment as I do for MS gaming products. :)

I bought my original Xbox at launch and it had to be replaced. The replacement barely got used and it too had issues. That left a bad taste in my mouth to MS gaming products which only got worse when the 360 came out. I was working in gaming retail and had to deal with numerous issues regarding the RROD and circular rings getting burned onto the discs. I would pick up games that I wanted to play because I knew I would eventually get one once they ironed out all of the problems and I finally picked up a 360 last year on Black Friday, a good 8 years after the system came out.

All of the shenanigans surrounding the Xbox One's launch regarding used games and the always-on + required Kinect really soured me to whatever they were trying to sell. They've shifted gears and disabled (not removed) those restrictions but only because they had to due to consumer outrage/slow system sales and not because they wanted to. I highly doubt we'll hear word of those restrictions for the remainder of the system's life but they attempted it and people will be quick to remember that when the One's successor comes out. The fact that they even attempted to implement those things was enough to drop MS to the bottom rung of my interest ladder.

I imagine I'll repeat the course that I did for the previous gen with this one; I'll continue to buy games I want to play for cheap and then get the system near the end of its cycle.

[Tanooki]

My distaste for them goes back to their pre-console stealing software/os, locking out useful stuff on their os/apps type days. I happened to be working in gaming at the time (june 01) before the systems launched from them and Nintendo, and I got stuck on the xbox. I learned before it was out to hate that thing from all the hardware problems on production units we had to test out stuff on along with development units. They'd re-sand circles into disks, tray jams, and the fun one was smelling something burning to have the internal power supplies smoke out if not just catch fire. The fact they lived on for a year off Halo alone magnified the issue and about that time aside from mainly WW2 shooters I got fed up with FPS games so I wrote them off other than for work. The 360 just made things 10x worse and still just mainly catered to certain types, and I don't just mean shooter buddies but gluttons for punishment who like things breaking down repeatedly and dismissing it instead of moving on. :D

All the stuff with the One just compounded the distrust even when I could have given them a chance since the hardware appeared sound this time around, but with drm, camera always on, less powerful for more cost, and again not making any unique games specific to it, not a chance in hell.

[T2KFreeker]

Well, let's not let the shoe just sit on one foot, you know? I understand that Microsoft is a shady company, like SONY isn't? I went through 7 original Playstation systems, 3 PS2's and 4 PSP's. One of those original Playstations BURST INTO FLAMES only after two weeks of owning it and even though it was well ventilated with tons of space between it and the console so air could get to it, SONY refused to replace the system because it was in an entertainment cabinet. I personally like the 360 better than my PS3, but that's a whole other argument. I just like the games better on the 360, but to each their own.

In the end, I'll probably get a ONE, but it isn't a top priority at this point. Not too wild for the PS4 either. There still isn't anhything on either system that is a "Must Play" for me yet. As a matter of fact, it seems that all we seem to get for the most part anymore are shooters. I don't care if it's 1st or 3rd person, they are still shooters and they are getting VERY stale indeed.

[Rickstilwell1]

I know the masses will tell you otherwise, but really this generation I am most interested in the Wii U so far. I just haven't bought one yet because I've been spending my money on classic games instead. Maybe that's part of the problem. Retro gamers and fans of Nintendo who would like a Wii U just haven't bought one yet because of us being fans of Nintendo and going for older stuff while it is still around in decent shape. It's going to be our own fault years later when we finally get up to the Wii U and realize there isn't as much software for it. We would have liked it now, but we Nintendo fans are stuck in the past.

[kupomogli]

While Sunset Overdrive looks like it'll be a good game, I'm more than likely not going to get an Xbox One. The PS4, which I also haven't purchase because the lack of games I can't already play on last gen consoles, is the more powerful console and it shows with each and every game being either higher resolution, framerate, or both. Resolution isn't as big of an issue to me as framerate is though, so as long as the PS4 has a stable 30fps, then I'm fine. Most games on the Xbox One are going to be on the PS4, most Japanese games that aren't multiconsole are going to be exclusive to either Nintendo or Sony consoles like they were last gen. I'm a Playstation fan but will buy other consoles if there's a lot of exclusives I'm interested in or exclusives that interest me enough to get the console, otherwise I won't get them. I'll eventually get a PS4 and Wii U, but don't see myself getting an Xbox One this gen.

[DeputyMoniker]

I went through 7 original Playstation systems, 3 PS2's and 4 PSP's.

I'm sure a couple of those were faulty units but that sounds like you're doing something wrong.

[homerhomer]

While I'm not in the market for a new console, I'd probably get a Wii U. The PS4 and Xbox just don't have enough software to interest me. And the software they do have is mostly First Person Shooters (Meh). I'm avoiding Microsoft like the plague because I'm not a fan of there used car salesman mentality with the customer. While Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are all in it for the money, Microsoft seems pushy and disconnected with the everyday gamer. Microsoft has a tendency to abandon the consumer once they own the market. Microsoft is a better company once they're in 2nd or 3rd place, otherwise they just walk all over you.

And they ruined RARE :(

[Bojay1997]

I'm sure a couple of those were faulty units but that sounds like you're doing something wrong.

Agree. I suspect he had some wiring/electrical issues in his house as the defect rate on the PS2 was fairly low and getting four defective PSPs is unheard of, unless you're talking about some bad screen pixels or you're trying to install non-standard firmware in which case there is a chance of bricking the unit.

[Leo_A]

Early PS2's had a very high rate of failure. More realistic sounding to me than 7 PS1's and 4 PSP's.

I too suspect an electrical issue unless he was logging dozens of hours week in and week out on them.

[megasdkirby]

No real incentive for me to get any of the three current generation consoles, since I have a plethora of games from the previous generation that will surely last me years. Besides, I have the Vita and 3DS, which is more than enough for me at this point in time.

[kupomogli]

Agree. I suspect he had some wiring/electrical issues in his house as the defect rate on the PS2 was fairly low and getting four defective PSPs is unheard of, unless you're talking about some bad screen pixels or you're trying to install non-standard firmware in which case there is a chance of bricking the unit.

Well, my PS2 had no problems and is still working to this day. I gave my brother my PSX after I bought my PS2, and it started having problems a couple years later not reading discs. My PSP on the other hand, while none of them stopped working, one of them stopped reading discs, the other was about to, and this is before the Vita came out. I didn't get the original PSP 1000 until I received my preordered Gundam Battle Royale, so late 2006. The system stopped reading discs, so I put custom firmware on it, emulators and such, gave it to my cousin, and bought a PSP 2000 to replace it. Before the Vita was announced, the motor for the PSP 2000 started making constant loud squeaking noises that made it literally unplayable, while also scaring me that it might scratch the UMDs. Since them I've bought a PSP 3000 and either rip the games myself or download them then play them digitally on my PSP2000(I like the color, Japanese mint green version) or on my PSP Go using a PS3 controller through my TV.

So my experience is that the PSP has had a much higher failure rate than the PSX and PS2 because both the 1000 and 2000 failed long before then gen was over.

[BHvrd]

or there's a true exclusive killer app for it.

Ah, the good ole days when we bought consoles for this reason alone, alas, now we buy them cause of their multi-purpose functionality or because like an iPhone we just must have the newest iteration....just cause.

How we have come this far is beyond me, but in general it has little to do with gaming honestly and I know alot of naysayers and predictors of this future outcome used to and still do frequent these forums and looks like alot of what they said was right and all the adopters and people that bought into all the fads regardless of "the games" are all since gone, tired of being worn down by the hype machine and adapting to what they were all along, non-gamers.

Like you, I will be awaiting the next killer app.....
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^^^^in other words, I will not be buying an Xbox One..to stay on-topic. :D

[bb_hood]

Give it a few months, it will only get cheaper.

[Tanooki]

I know the masses will tell you otherwise, but really this generation I am most interested in the Wii U so far. I just haven't bought one yet because I've been spending my money on classic games instead. Maybe that's part of the problem. Retro gamers and fans of Nintendo who would like a Wii U just haven't bought one yet because of us being fans of Nintendo and going for older stuff while it is still around in decent shape. It's going to be our own fault years later when we finally get up to the Wii U and realize there isn't as much software for it. We would have liked it now, but we Nintendo fans are stuck in the past.

Ehh you know honestly my feelings are kind of similar as WiiU is the one I have, after what my brother told me what the deal is with the WiiU going forward I know the WiiU is doomed to get almost no third party games and I'm coming to terms with it so it's not a matter of being stuck int he past, I love that controller tablet and the stuff finally in HD, but they have been slacking in their game making quality with franchises while ignoring others. When the time comes I will get a PS4 I imagine, I love their exclusives just like Nintendo's since the 80s. Ultimately though thanks to the N64 era I became a handheld gamer more(buy more games and play longer) along with buying up old stuff I never could have or missed and that stays true still.

I've never heard of a fire breaking out on a PS1, but I know a heap of the old style ones had crappy drive motors or lens issues so people would run them upside down to read discs but I only had the slim model of that and both of the ps2 (slim now.)


homer you're right about ms and their sales tactics. I'm surprised really that many who had the original xbox didnt' tell them to get fucked after what they did literally going cold turkey on it into the rushed 360. They pulled development, canceled all projects and killed it on the shelf with whatever few scraps third parties had left to get out there which they left hung high and dry which is awful. To then compound that with the entire 360 hot mess start to end it's amazing people even bother. Sony isn't run by gentlemen by any means, but at least they support their systems and customers at a little bit better level.

[WCP]

Actually, wasn't the Titanfall Bundle (with Kinect) for $449.99 a better deal if you really think about it ?


By having this $100 price difference, Microsoft is basically saying the new Kinect is worth $100. The Titanfall bundle that was on sale at Amazon and other places for $449.99 included a Kinect and Titanfall, a game that is supposed to sell for the full $59.99. So, wouldn't that Titanfall bundle actually be the better deal ? I think the savings in the $399 non Kinect bundle is more psychological than actual. While the price is the same as PS4, the PS4 is considerably more powerful, so I think Microsofts price should have been either lower than $399, or they should actually be including the Kinect at $399, and then it would at least be a competitive value against the PS4.

Right now, I still don't think it's competitive. Same price, but a much weaker system.

(by the way, I own both and bought both at launch, so I feel like I have the right to talk shit about either of them)

[Zthun]

Looks like a bitter pill to swallow for Microsoft, but it was inevitable I guess. I had a 360 but after I got the PS3 it collected dust. Sony just has more to offer me. Anyone thinking of getting it?

Sticking with PC this generation.

[Tanooki]

WCP it's entirely psychological.

The WiiU has done the same thing. The had the Deluxe and the normal to look like a deal. They killed the deal because people realized the rouse. Since then though they've not come off $300 but made the deluxe out to be worth the cash. That worked for a short short time but floundered.

The thing is people just aren't bright enough in mass to see the real deal like that Titanfall one. Again using the WiiU -- The New SMBU/Luigi U bundle that has a disc in there. Those two games retail for $90 together. That makes the WiiU just $210, but who actually does that math when you can brainlessly just see $300 and say too much if you intended to get them anyway.

[Leo_A]

I think the savings in the $399 non Kinect bundle is more psychological than actual.

Not for me, $399 without an accessory I have no interest in or $499 with it is a real savings to me.

Even the Titanfall bundle for $450 isn't too appealing. I'd be selling the redemption code and selling off Kinect, but what I'd gain by doing so above the extra $50 plus tax that I spent wouldn't be worth it. Good deal if one wants the Titanfall download and Kinect 2.0 and can't wait on buying into the system though although I'd suggest waiting and looking for a deal on the new expanded bundle that also includes Tomb Raider, extra controller, and a 12 month gold subscription.

It's already seen a pretty heavy discount at least at one retailer.

[WCP]

If anybody is thinking about buying an Xbox One now, I just wanted to give a Public Service Announcement and say to check your local Craigslist if you want to save crazy money. Remember, Tax is a factor. You buy something off Craigslist for straight up money, no tax added, so that's also part of it.

Before this whole $399.99 no Kinect thing happened, you could look on your local Craigslist, and assuming you have some patience, and can haggle a little bit, you could have gotten a totally legit Xbox One system, which would include the controller, the cheapo headset, the kinect, the power supply, the hdmi cable, etc, etc, plus a couple of extra games, or a game and an extra controller for about $350. To me, that is a much better deal, because you would also get a Kinect, you'd save $50 off the retail price, plus you'd save all the tax. If you have zero interest in Kinect, then sell it off separately and get another $70 cash back for it. That would take your total spent to $280.

All of that was BEFORE this $399 version. I'm not really sure how the aftermarket price is going to react to this whole thing. I think what you're going to see is that a lot of people are going to try to sell Kinect separately. If anybody is looking for an extra Kinect 2.0, I'm guessing right now is a good time, because I imagine there are lots of people in a panic selling mode when it comes to Kinect. Some Xbox One owners are really pissed off at this whole thing, and they are trying to sell their Kinects off.

[T2KFreeker]

I'm sure a couple of those were faulty units but that sounds like you're doing something wrong.

Nope. I have just had bad luck with Sony systems. Sorry. Like it or not, that's the deal. Two PSP's the screens were just horrid and two of them the motors died. I have had a 3000 model for some time and it's working like a champ. Playstation was a nightmare until the PSOne system. Since I bought that, I have had no issue with that particular system. PS2, all three systems were the fat system. Since I got the slim, no issues. I have a launch PS3 and it actually still works, so the first Playstation model that hasn't given me issues.

As for the comments about me doing something wrong. I have a launch Saturn that still works just fine and I played it more than the Playstation. I have a 3DO FZ1 system that works just fine. I have two XBOX systems that are working just fine. I had a launch 360, and it didn't RROD on me, but when the second model design released, I replaced it just to be sure. Launch Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Wii work just fine too. After so long with the Playstations, it was the typical thing, it would start running weird and I would have to flip it over fo9r it to work. VERY common for the system, so yeah, not something I did wrong, something Sony did wrong, sorry. Oh, and I also have a fully fu7nctional Turbografx CD system that works just fine. I haven't had to replace any of the gears, just lube them so they don't break. Like I said, just a problem with Sony crap in this house. So, unless I have to treat the Playstation units any differently than any of those other units and my PS3 and Vita work just fine without a hiccup, I don't think the problem is me.

[Gamevet]

I don't see myself getting an Xbox One anytime soon. As great as Xbox LIVE has been for some people, I think it is pretty much a broken service. If I want to log-in on LIVE with either of my Xbox 360s, I have to keep my profile on a thumb-drive to rotate between the 2 Xbox 360 consoles I have. PSN is much more user friendly, being that I can log into several different PS3s without much of a hassle. If a friend is logged into LIVE with his XB1, I can see that he is online, but I can't see what he is playing, or what games he has played. Meanwhile, I can see what my PS4 friends are playing and what trophies they have unlocked for their games.

I see my gaming PC as a replacement for the XB1, and the PS4 as an eventual replacement for my PS3. It may be several years before I even think about getting Microsoft's console.

[Daria]

I liked the xbox 360 for the most part. But a few factor's have distinguished any excitement I could feel for an upgrade console. I had two RRoD instances and one bad video card. Going through three throw away systems is just terrible. And my confidence in Microsoft at this point is shot. I'm also pretty pissed at all the dashboard updates. Every time they re-haul the dashboard they just toss up more ads. I already pay to use xbox live, do they really have to generate ad revenue on top of it? And the apps... jesus, even if I do get suckered into clicking on a "free movie" promotion xbox insists on installing yet another useless app to view it. At which point I yell "fuck it" and cancel. The more I hear about the XBone being a one stop entertainment center the more I cringe. I just want to play games. I don't give a shit about accessing pay-per-view movies and music-on-demand from my GAMING CONSOLE. If Microsoft can't get the 360 right, why would I have any confidence that they'll do better by the XBone? Finally, there's the games, which are pretty much all available on the PC for a lot less money.

I could see eventually getting a PS4 for the Japanese exclusives, but at this point I'd much rather have a Wii U.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

Nope.

Considering i just bought a ps4 a few hours ago, double nope.


Ive always owned every console per generation since the playstation 1 era, but ive never come across a console i wanted less than the xb one. Microsoft truly is in a no win situation.

Before i had planned on picking up an xbone when the 2nd or 3rd slim revision dropped in a few years and all the exclusives were out and cheap as im not really crazy about any of their games so far and no fucking way was i picking up a console for 500, fuck outta here, but now with kinect basically dead in the water, the one thing that made them unique, wtf is the point?

Yes now they have price parity but wtf do i get for that money? A console that is objectively and appreciably weaker from a company that actively tries to fuck you at every corner and doesnt have 1/30th the amount or variety in exclusives that sony does. No thanks

[WelcomeToTheNextLevel]

PS4 only this generation, at least for the time being. 10 years from now I will have an Xbone and a Wii U though.

[WelcomeToTheNextLevel]

Nope.

Considering i just bought a ps4 a few hours ago, double nope.


Ive always owned every console per generation since the playstation 1 era, but ive never come across a console i wanted less than the xb one. Microsoft truly is in a no win situation.

Before i had planned on picking up an xbone when the 2nd or 3rd slim revision dropped in a few years and all the exclusives were out and cheap as im not really crazy about any of their games so far and no fucking way was i picking up a console for 500, fuck outta here, but now with kinect basically dead in the water, the one thing that made them unique, wtf is the point?

Yes now they have price parity but wtf do i get for that money? A console that is objectively and appreciably weaker from a company that actively tries to fuck you at every corner and doesnt have 1/30th the amount or variety in exclusives that sony does. No thanks

We just got our PS4 on May 4th :)

Expensive, but we got Honda Accords in 2012 and 2013 both on May 4. The one we got on 5/4/2012 was totaled on 4/22/2013, so we got its replacement on 5/4/2013. A 2008 and a 2011. I swear by my 2008 and newer Honda Accords :)

[Tanooki]

Daria and Laughingman there pegged all my objections really to MS on the whole and their consoles. They offer nothing but pay to use online models with ad spam and a very very small roster of unique franchise games which have (if possible) less than zero appeal to me at all. Halo isn't that special, Gears is just another of the type, and Forza has been done better elsewhere and not stuck on one system. Throw in all they did horribly wrong on the 360 to the system and their loyal from xbox to the horrible shit they attempted or did pull on XB1, and now throwing their camera to the toilet showing no confidence in their own goods says more than enough for anyone who isn't some insane ms fanboy.

[buzz_n64]

Hell no. It would be the very last console I would get for this generation. I would get an Ouya 2, Wii U, PS4, 3DS and a Retron5 before I get an Xbox One.

[ProjectCamaro]

Eh, I have all the current generation consoles. They all have games I enjoy and in the end that's all that matters to me.

[WCP]

Eh, I have all the current generation consoles. They all have games I enjoy and in the end that's all that matters to me.

The Xbox One does have a couple of games that I "enjoy", per se, but I don't really feel like these games justify my purchase. I have some serious buyers remorse with the thing, but it's too late to cry over spilled milk. I can't get the toothpaste back in the tube if you know what I'm saying ? lol


It's like this... I've taken about a $200 hit on my whole XB1 experience, but it's one of those live and learn things. Had I known, what I know right now, I wouldn't be getting a Xbox One until the day Sunset Overdrive is available, and only in a special bundle that would really make sense. There is no need for me to own the thing right now. I currently have Ryse, and the game is half-way decent. Basically, it's like a modern day Altered Beast, from the standpoint that it's got some nice graphics and sounds that make you think your system has some relatively decent power under the hood. Ryse could pass as a PS4 game, heh... Forza 5 is also a pretty good game, microtransaction tomfoolery non-withstanding. Those are the two games that I could say that I "enjoyed', or is currently enjoying. I also had Dead Rising 3, and it's "ok", but nothing to write home about. I own Titanfal but never play the game. I knew it wasn't for me, but I'm a bit shocked that my kids never play it, and they love COD. At first they played Titanfall for a few days, but they haven't fired it up since.

I unfortunately bought a guy's download code for that, so that $40 is dead money that will never be recovered. That's the problem with buying something digital, it's dead money once you've spent it. You're not getting that money back. I really should have bought the physical disk, because then I would have easily been able to sell it for a halfway decent amount and cut my losses. Big mistake on my part. I bought Dead Rising 3, Forza 5 and Battlefield 4 on Xbox One, all at launch, physical disk. and I've been able to sell all 3 games without any issues at all. In fact, I pretty much broke even on those games because I had bought them on a B2G1 deal that Target was having at the time. That's the good news, I didn't actually loose too much on Xbox One Software. Titanfall is obviously $40 of dead money and I paid $24.99 plus tax for Ryse. I think it was like $28 ish total. I'll probably get $20 to $25 back when I'm done with Ryse, so I'm cool with that. I've taken a bath on the hardware, but at least I didn't get hosed on the software too bad.

[Robocop2]

It's certainly good news and really more of a smart move on their part vs stubbornly clinging to the kinect as a forced purchase. Had I not already gotten one I'd certainly be interested in the new kinect less one. The gestures and voice commands are cool but a novelty at the end of the day. I like my One but so far I've plYed my 360 more than I have it since launch. Thanks a lot World of Tanks....

[Gothic-Yoichi]

Personally it's good news. But it's not enough for me to buy the console anytime soon. I'm really excited for Microsoft's E3 though as I'm excited to see what they showcase. I currently only want two games for the system (Alien: Isolation & Dead Rising 3), but it's definitely not enough for me to want to buy it soon. At the moment, I'd only play those two games on someone else's Xbox One because the price of the system is just way too high for me to even think about buying.

[jefis]

If I'll buy the new generation console, then it'll be PS4. I'm more of a Playstation guy. Plus it's smaller, better graphics.

[Flare65]

Passing on both the Xbox One and the PS4. Current PC is still doing fine and Steam and all the Blizzard franchises keep me busy. I plan on building a new gaming PC in the fall. Got plenty of retro stuff to play too.

[rxd]

When Halo 5 and Crackdown 3 are out and there's been a few more price drops I will take a look.
until then no thanks...

[WCP]

Passing on both the Xbox One and the PS4. Current PC is still doing fine and Steam and all the Blizzard franchises keep me busy. I plan on building a new gaming PC in the fall. Got plenty of retro stuff to play too.


I wish I did what you did.


I should have skipped both the PS4 and XB1, because I think both of them didn't really step up to the plate. Remember when the Xbox 360 first game out ? The Xbox 360 versions of games like Need For Speed Most Wanted, actually looked better on the 360 than the PC version. For a very BRIEF moment in time, consoles had more power than the PC. It didn't last very long at all, because when Oblivion came out, it was definitely better on PC. Of course, Xbox 360 had Gears, and Gears was more impressive than most PC games at the same time. (Yes, I know Gears 1 eventually game to the PC).

When the PS3 first hit, I think Motorstorm was a cut above anything on the PC for that brief moment in time. The way the mud looked, and the desert canyons you were going through. Again, didn't last very long, but for a very short period in time, the PS3 was beyond the average PC.


Now, we are in the year 2014, and I can say with authority that a high end gaming PC can really murder these current consoles. The Xbox One is especially being outperformed by run of the mill gaming PC's. It's a damn shame if you really think about it. Consoles always temporarily had the power advantage over PC, yeah it didn't last very long, but it still happened. This time, it wasn't even close. I don't see how these machines are expected to last for 5 or 6 years. I think they were designed with that in mind, but I don't think it's going to happen. Not with Steam Machines lurking in the background. The PS4 and XB1 are both stuck with 2012/2013 technology for at least the next 5 years. Meanwhile, PC's will continue to get more and more powerful, and the trickle down effect means that even the bargain basement cheapo gamer PC's will eventually smoke the PS4 and XB1. Might not happen for about 4 years, in terms of truly having an affordable Steam machine that murders the current consoles, but I think it will happen assuming Sony or MS, doesn't realize they can't have another super long cycle with stagnant hardware.


I don't think Project Morpheus is really going to save the PS4 either, because I just don't think the PS4 has quite enough hardware muscle to really give VR the kind of experience you need, and I also think Sony will cheap out on the headset. I think Facebook will be willing to take a bigger loss per unit with Oculus, and because of the power of the PC, you can pay enough and have unfathomable experiences with Oculus at some point in the next 4 years. Just imagine a racing game on the Oculus, where you are sitting in the actual cockpit of a Formula One race car. PC owners could actually go all out, and assemble some type of cockpit setup, that could somehow sync with the PC for force feedback, etc, etc, and just imagine sitting in that thing and wearing the Oculus headset. It could be mind blowing.

[Tron 2.0]

Even with a,kinect less xbox-one console coming i'm still not sold on it.I still have plans to buy a PS4 in the future and that will be it nothing more.

[PreZZ]

Microsoft's shoddy business practices with DRM and all that bullshit lost me as a customer, and the fact that I had 3 xbox360 die on me even if I did play less than 10 hours per month. Yes I know they reversed their decisions on DRM and I dont care it's just too little too late, and most major third party games are released on both platforms and look and play the same. MS first party software doesnt appeal to me, dont care about Halo, gears and kinect crappy games so this will be the first time I dont buy all the major systems in a generation. Also paying for both xbox live and ps+ is a total waste of money, so I picked the ps4, more exclusive franchise and slightly better hardware. Not trying to sound like a fanboy, I am not, but this his how I feel about the Xone right now.

[WCP]

Honestly, if there is anybody out there that hasn't bought either a PS4 or a Xbox One, and you have $450 burning a hole in your pocket....

I would put that money towards a new gaming PC, or a gaming PC upgrade if you already have a mediocre gaming PC. It's what I should have done. While everybody on the PS4 and XB1 are playing Watch Dogs in 900p or 720p, you'll be playing it in a legit 1080p. While everyone on the PS4 and XB1 are playing it with 30 fps, you'll be playing with 60 fps. You'll miss out on the huge exclusives that aren't translated to PC right away, but here's the thing, there really aren't any huge games coming till at least November 2015. That's when Halo 5 and Uncharted and all the big hitters will hit. It's a long time between now and then. I think a gaming PC would provide the most bang for the buck until those legit exclusives really come to fruition. Now, if you don't have any PC at all that you can upgrade, and have to pretty much start from scratch with a PC build, then yeah, it could get pretty damn expensive. You'd need to spend about a strong $700 on the tower, maybe $800, and then provide your own mouse / keyboard / wired 360 controller / monitor or TV . If you already have a PC, and have a decent power supply and case and hard drive, with windows and stuff, then it's just a matter of upgrading the motherboard / CPU / memory and Video Card.

Remember if 4K ever becomes a thing, the PC will be able to do it WAY before the PS4 or XB1 can do it. So, that could be an additional bonus in the future.

[josekortez]

I bought one when Microsoft was giving away a free game with the system. I went to Best Buy so I could get the Gamer's Club Unlocked discount card for 2 years with it for free. They only had vanilla systems so I didn't get the one that had Madden, but that was fine since I don't particularly enjoy sports games. I chose Diablo III as my free game, and I already had a copy of Dead Rising 3 that I had picked up and held onto until I got the system. Dead Rising 3 is really fun since they got rid of the time countdown and let you play the game at its own pace.

I like Xbox One although I wish I had more to play on the system. I've got Games with Gold, so I already own Super Time Force, Crimson Dragon and Chariot on the system. Super Time Force is pretty fun, although I haven't figured out the mechanics (it's kind of like Contra with a time rewind button), and Crimson Dragon is very similar to Panzer Dragoon Orta with beautiful graphics. I haven't booted Chariot yet.

I put down $5 on a Sunset Overdrive pre-order, so I'm looking forward to that one. Not a big fan of Insomniac Games, the developer, but it looks so over the top, that I just wanted to own it.

Oh, and I was one of the few people on the planet who didn't know that the system required a Day One update to run at all. So people who don't have Wi-Fi at home are screwed if they buy one because the system is a $400 brick without it. Dead Rising 3 also required a 16 gb update before the game would even boot.

[Oldskool]

Already got it. I love it.. I am having a lot of fun with it. I did get a great deal on it though - had this deal not come around - I probably would have waited.

Kinect Console with Titanfall, Dead Rising, Assasin's Creed, Forza, a titanfall controller, regular controller, and two usb charging packs for $200. I just couldn't pass it up and I am glad that I didn't because I have played on it a lot.

I was never a big fan of the original XBOX.. I was always a PS1 and PS2 gamer. But I did pick up the 360 when the slim came out (waited because I didn't want to deal with the RROD but I did realize that the online and game selection was excellent). The 360 I enjoy highly.

[dcware]

I'm having trouble understanding why, but this is the first generation which I'm not particularly desperate to jump head first into. The Wii U is definitely first on my list for when I do finally get around to buying one, then the PS4, and lastly the Xbox One.

Once the games I want to play are cheaper, I'll get one. I think that's what it boils down to. I'm becoming super frugal in my old age :)

[ProjectCamaro]

I think that's what it boils down to. I'm becoming super frugal in my old age :)

Nothing wrong with that.

It's funny as this is the first generation that I bought all the consoles at launch. In the past I always waited until they had a couple price drops and I could pick up a bunch of games on the cheap.