Favorite digital downloads you wish weren't

[Tanooki]

I'm sure if you have seen my posts enough here before you know I don't buy digital downloads really much at all and if they are they're cheap and few and farther between. The fact is at the end of the day they're long term rentals, you have NO rights and once they decide to drop support you're stuck and out your money if your system eats it. That said, are there any games in the digital only format in you region or worldwide you'd love to own if they'd just man up and stick on a card (3DS/Vita) or a disc (WiiU/PS3-4/360-1)?

I know looking at stuff there have been some neat releases with some quality to them like the Trine titles and that Unepic game on WiiU I'd love to own. Looking at the 3DS there have been those Kagura Burst combat(final fight style) and Umi's Odd Odyssey (Umihara Kawase) that I'd love to have on a card as well. Those two 3DS games all the more infuriating as they are on cards in the PAL and Japanese regions...ugh.

How about you all, any particular games you wish were on a tangible format that you would buy if it would come out that way? I wish I could import the 3DS games but of course thanks to online Nintendo used that as a sorry excuse to region lock the handhelds which they never did up until the DSi which sucks!

[Jorpho]

Man, you start a lot of threads.

Phoenix Wright 3DS would be the big one, with Yumi's Odd Odyssey a close second. Of course, I haven't bought either of them yet, as I have more than enough to play at the moment and I'm hoping there will be a sale eventually. (Or may I can just get a cheap eShop points card somewhere or another.)

Not sure why you would overpay for Unepic or Trine on a console when they've practically given away the PC versions, which probably look nicer anyway.

[Daria]

I think I paid $2.50 for UnEpic on Steam's Summer Sale.

That said I don't buy downloads for consoles or handhelds, and I only buy Steam titles if they're cheap enough.

[LiquidPolicenaut]

The biggest one for me that I would've liked on disc would be Scott Pilgrim Vs The World. Beyond that, I guess would've liked the arcade titles (X-Men, The Simpsons, etc.) maybe thrown onto a compilation disc too...

[megasdkirby]

Man, you start a lot of threads.



Agreed. :)

Anyway, I wish ALL digital downloads were made available in physical format.

If not, at least be able to backup the data/games for later use. I love the Vita because I can make a complete backup on a PC and, a few years later, upload the backup back on the Vita and play the games, even if said games are no longer available on the PSN store. I wish the same can be done on both the PS3 and PS4. Microsoft and Nintendo consoles as well.

[Tanooki]

I did it on purpose. I don't like to make a lot of new ones, rather reply, but there's not that many things getting responded to and I was hoping to stir up some conversation or a few new registrations or some others dusting off old accounts fed up maybe with another stick in the butt type sites.

Unepic and Trine if I could get them on a physical copy without any DRM or Steam front end garbage attached I would, like if GoGames had a nice sale, but I would pay more to get a real traditional full legit copy like when I bought a lightly used slip cover and all complete Cave Story 3DS game for $25 versus the cheap digital alternatives. I like to own what a pay for, not just live for a ticking clock and the only digital exception would be on PC because I can jam it onto a backup drive.

Sony even seems to get this concept as they've put out a few packages of their PSN and even PS2(download on PS3) games up on discs for a lower price from stuff like the Journey Collection, Fat Princess package on PSP, and even those God of War and Ico/Colossus packages on PS3.

[kupomogli]

Breath of Death 7 and Cthulu Saves the World. Very cheap when they were released and just a few weeks ago you could have found them both bundled for $.97. Worth it imo. Some of the best RPGs I've played in awhile. I haven't played Penny Arcade On the Rain Slicked Precipice of Darkness 3 and 4(the first two suck, but 3 and 4 were developed by the devs of these two games)

I wouldn't mind the devs ported these games over to the 3DS or Vita. Both games on a single card.

Dead Nation on the PS3/PS4/Vita.

Hotline Miami 1 and 2. Hotline Miami wasn't amazing, but for an indie game it was pretty good. Imo, most indie games haven't been very good.

[Leo_A]

At least you used some paragraphs this time. ;)

Here's a list of my favorites off the top of my head and sorted by system.

Xbox
-Project Gotham Racing 2's Paris & Long Beach booster packs (DLC expansions)

PSP
-Vanguard, Burnin' Rubber, & Lock N' Chase (PSP Minis)

Vita
-TxK (I don't yet own a Vita, but I've played and enjoyed this Tempest inspired release from Jeff Minter)

PS3
-House of the Dead 4

360
-Juno First (Game Room arcade download)
-Perfect Dark (XBLA; Been hoping for a Rare XBLA compilation disc, but no such luck.)
-Outrun Online Arcade (XBLA)
-Sega Rally Online Arcade (XBLA)
-Daytona USA (XBLA)
-Hydro Thunder Hurricane (XBLA)

Wii
-Super Hang-On (Virtual Console Arcade)
-Wave Race 64 & Super Mario 64 (Virtual Console; I love how nice they look on the Wii compared to the original hardware.)

Wii U
-NES Remix 1 & 2

DS
-Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Anniversary Edition

3DS
-Galaxy Force II (3D Classic)


Sony even seems to get this concept as they've put out a few packages of their PSN and even PS2(download on PS3) games up on discs for a lower price from stuff like ... and even those God of War and Ico/Colossus packages on PS3.

Those actually were retail releases first on the PS3 and came to PSN as downloads later on (With Ico and Shadow of the Colossus split back apart, I believe).

[WCP]

I did it on purpose. I was hoping to stir up some conversation or a few new registrations or some others dusting off old accounts fed up maybe with another stick in the butt type sites.




This is a totally off-topic question, but what retro forums have the most active positing going on ?

[Leo_A]

Favorite digital downloads you wish weren'tNES Remix 1 & 2

http://www.joystiq.com/2014/07/26/nes-remix-pack-coming-to-stores-this-holiday/

That was quick, thanks Nintendo.

Really glad that I didn't pick NES Remix as my Club Nintendo reward last night. Almost was tempted to not wait it out.

[Tanooki]

WCP other than the two shitholes of NA and neogaf both loaded with immature people, cliques, and snobs drowning out some good people, I really don't know, gamefaqs? This place used to be a lot more jumping when I'd read but never registered so that's what came to mind when I wrote that side comment.

Leo! Sweet! You're right that was damn quick on an announcement. I was stubbornly refusing to buy it on the WiiU after seeing Japan get that package. I was either never going to play remix 2 outside of a gift card situation, or they'd release it here and well they are so that's good. Also a good list of games there I agree with a lot, well most of it anyways since I've used much of those listed and they're good stuff.

[Leo_A]

AtariAge is mostly where I hang out.

[Jorpho]

The biggest one for me that I would've liked on disc would be Scott Pilgrim Vs The World.I just wish it wasn't PS3-exclusive. Same goes for Shadow Complex.

[SpaceHarrier]

Mega Man 9 + 10 (Wiiware) I'd have loved a disc that contained one or both of these plus the DLC.
Castlevania: Adventure Rebirth (Wiiware) Early 3DS title, late PSP release? Maybe on a physical compilation cart/disc with some other random Castlevanias (like Circle of the Moon)?
Daytona USA (the version that released on PS3/360) Surely, this could have supported decent budget-price sales for a physical copy..

[Leo_A]

Mega Man 9 + 10 (Wiiware) I'd have loved a disc that contained one or both of these plus the DLC.

I forgot about Mega Man 9 & 10. Their absence on disc is a major oversight. Bionic Commando Rearmed is another one.

Capcom put out a compilation disc of their underperformers like Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 several years ago, but the good stuff like Okami HD (Which Japan did get on disc at least) sadly remains absent.

[Tron 2.0]

The recent,Shovel Knight the game is such a throw back to the days of the nes.

[kupomogli]

I just wish it wasn't PS3-exclusive. Same goes for Shadow Complex.

Shadow Complex is 360 exclusive and Scott Pilgrim vs the World is on PS360.

[frogofdeath]

Mega Man 10 is available on disc for both PS3 and 360.

http://www.amazon.com/Capcom-Essentials-Playstation-3/dp/B00DT55P94

[Vinnysdad]

Mega Man 10 is available on disc for both PS3 and 360.

http://www.amazon.com/Capcom-Essentials-Playstation-3/dp/B00DT55P94



You get a download code for Mega Man in that compilation.

[Tanooki]

Does it say that on the box somewhere as I'd be furious and demand a return on it if I bought that cold at the store to find a piece of paper for MM10.

[frogofdeath]

You get a download code for Mega Man in that compilation.

Really? I was thinking the same thing, but the description on Amazon made it seem like it was on disc. Oh well, maybe one day they'll release another Mega Man compilation disc and 9 and 10 will make the cut.

[Leo_A]

They've talked in a recent interview or two like they're more than welcome to the idea with how old Mega Man Anniversary Collection is getting.

Would make for a heck of a compilation even if it was only Mega Man 1-10 (Although I would hope we'd get all the cartridge releases including handhelds and the X franchise as well). Sadly though, I doubt it would release on the system with the best d-pad for the job. Soon, only Mega Man 8 will be absent on the Wii U's Virtual Console if we include Mega Man 9 & 10 which can still be found in the Wii Shop in Wii mode. So I suspect Wii U fans will have to be content with those.

Putting the horse really ahead of the cart here, but if it ever happens, I hope the DLC is packed in by default like SpaceHarrier said. Most of it looked like a waste of money that I skipped over, but I've enjoyed the special downloadable stages for both Mega Man 9 & 10. Was a nice way to spend the odd dollar here and there to keep my Wii Shop balance at 0.

[fahlim003]

After Burner Climax & Raiden 4 - both PS3.

[Leo_A]

Can't believe I forgot Afterburner Climax as I was listing other Sega XBLA/PSN downloads.

I know you're talking specifically about the PS3 version, but for the uninitiated, there is a retail version of Raiden IV on the Xbox 360.

[fahlim003]

Can't believe I forgot Afterburner Climax as I was listing other Sega XBLA/PSN downloads.

I know you're talking specifically about the PS3 version, but for the uninitiated, there is a retail version of Raiden IV on the Xbox 360.

Yeah, at least Raiden 4 isn't lost to download only. I don't have a 360 so it was win/lose when I heard it was coming to PS3 but only on PSN.

[Nz17]

Ace Attorney 5 (Phoenix Wright) (Dang cheap-ass CAPCOM. I had to buy a new, larger memory card just to download this game because CAPCOM was too cheap to put some money into a physical release. *Grr* And give us Mega Man Legends 3!)

Azure Striker Gunvolt ("Mega Man Zero"-esque game due out this summer in Japan, not too long afterward for the rest of the world.)

Guild 01 (A collection of four Japanese games which eventually all got localized.)

Guild 02 (So nice they made another. ;) Seriously though, at least check out Weapon Shop de Omasse - it's the best of them all.)

Rusty's Real Deal Baseball (They could have left the haggling in, just have the players haggle with in-game virtual currency instead of real-world money. It's a great action game that distills baseball down to its essentials and it's well worth a physical release in full.)

Mighty No. 9 (This will be available for a lot of platforms when it is released, but not a single one of them will be getting a physical release. What's the deal, Inafune? I know the last-minute USB and DVD add-ons were offered for the Kickstarter, but I wasn't able to pick one up at the time and you should as least allow backers to get some more physical copies ordered while we wait for the game to finish development. And even better, give us retail releases for every format where it is practical. For example, a DVD or USB disk with all three PC versions (Win/Mac/Lin), plus physical copies on 3DS, Wii U, Vita, PS3, PS4, XBone, and XB360.)

Yumi's Odd Odyssey (Umihara Kawase) (It's worth importing the physical PSP version of this as it is basically exactly the same minus the stereoscopic 3D visuals from the 3DS version.)

Mega Man 9 (Why not?! Include all the DLC too.)

Mega Man 10 (Seriously, CAPCOM, stop being so cheap! It would be perfect to release both of these as a 2-pack!)

Mega Man I - V & Mega Man Xtreme 1 - 2 (CAPCOM should put these together as a collection like they promised for the GBA. Now I understand CAPCOM is too cheap to put some real work into these like remastering the audio and video for modern standards like the company was planning to do back in the day, but a simple compilation of all these games emulated and on a 3DS and/or Vita game card would be good. Toss in some character & concept art and I'd be sold on it.)

Plants vs. Zombies 2: It's About Time (I would have liked this so much more if it were to have utilized the traditional business model that PopCap used to employ for its games rather than what EA (which acquired PopCap) turned this sequel into - a micro-transcation'ed, buy your way portable game for iOS and Android. All of the challenge and a lot of the charm are sadly gone. :bawling:)

Shadowgate (2014 remake) (I pledged to the Kickstarter; I'm in the beta; it is FANTASTIC, so worth it for old fans and new players too. Strangely, despite all the other physical Kickstarter rewards (posters, maps, staves, collector's boxes, card games, shirts, softcover art book, hardcover art book, soundtrack CD), there is no physical game release. Buh-wah? I realize we are living in modern times, but seriously, they could have gotten much more money for not much more effort if they'd pressed some DVD's.)

Shovel Knight (I would really DIG a physical copy of this with Shovel Knight's classic-CAPCOM-style box art.)

Most PC releases, particularly of console game ports, from the last 5+ years (You used to be able to import physical copies of these from Europe, but even there it is now rare to get a physical PC release on CD-ROM/DVD-ROM.)

NES Remix 1 & NES Remix 2 (It would also be perfect to bundle both of these as a 2-pack. Good thing Big N has seen the light!)

And on a different note: I think "The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Anniversary Edition" should be a built-in game for 3DS's. I believe it would help to sell hardware. And why not? It's not like it was ever a charge-for game, unlike its predecessors.

[Jorpho]

People keep telling me that connectivity with older DS and DSi-ware titles like Four Swords doesn't work very well on the 3DS – connections are slow and likely to be dropped, or something.

[Rickstilwell1]

Joe Santulli has a facebook page called "I Am A Classic Videogamer" and it seems to get much more activity than the forum.

[Leo_A]

And on a different note: I think "The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Anniversary Edition" should be a built-in game for 3DS's. I believe it would help to sell hardware. And why not? It's not like it was ever a charge-for game, unlike its predecessors.

It makes too much sense to probably happen, but I'm hoping it's bundled in with Majora's Mask 3D.

Of course that one remains just a rumor at this point, but if it happens next year like many hope, I hope Grezzo (The developer likely behind it as they developed Ocarina of Time 3D), tosses it in as a bonus. They also were responsible for porting Four Swords from the GBA over to the DS/3DS and enhancing it with additional levels and a single player mode, so that would seem to only help its chances.

I wonder though if DS code can be ran off a 3DS game card or if they'd have to port it and break multiplayer compatibility with the existing download (It's a DSiWare download).

[Tanooki]

People keep telling me that connectivity with older DS and DSi-ware titles like Four Swords doesn't work very well on the 3DS – connections are slow and likely to be dropped, or something.

You're talking like same room connections right? They did kill the network this year for the Wii and DS so anything online is dead.

[Jorpho]

You're talking like same room connections right?Yes, that is what I am referring to. (Four Swords never had WFC capability.)

[drtomoe123]

Even though I totally understand why it's a DD only title (it's a three hour adventure game), I'd love to own a physical copy of Attack of the Friday Monsters for the 3DS. It's so charming, fresh, and Japanese--it deserves one!

[Tanooki]

Isn't that one of those 'Guild' games? Perhaps if they had(did?) sell into the tens or hundreds of thousands of copies overall(between them) it would be cool if they did a bundle package much like how Sony did the Journey collection for PS3 with it, flow, and flower on there.

[VG_Maniac]

Mega Man 9 + 10 (Wiiware) I'd have loved a disc that contained one or both of these plus the DLC.

I'd love to see someone put those games on reproduction NES carts, playable on the NES. Although I've read that's impossible...despite looking just like NES games, they are actually too complex to work on the NES.

[Tanooki]

I know for a fact someone is/was slowly working to hack an existing later Mega Man cart for NES to be turned into MM9 but I remember there was some technical issues popping up because the game while looking NES does more in the background or something to that effect I think the NES couldn't handle. I wouldn't be surprised if a google search popped something up.

[Leo_A]

They're not NES games despite the impression some fans had of them. They natively run on the hardware they were released on, they're not NES code running via a NES emulator.

It would take a homebrewer to code replicas from scratch on the NES (And making downgrades here and there since as you said, they apparently didn't stay 100% faithful to the limitations of the NES hardware).

[Nz17]

People keep telling me that connectivity with older DS and DSi-ware titles like Four Swords doesn't work very well on the 3DS – connections are slow and likely to be dropped, or something.

I don't know what crack they are smoking, but I'd advise them to put down the pipe. :p

Four Swords works fine on my 3DS and those 3DS's of the people with which I've played the game. Similarly, Club House games has worked perfectly every time I've used Download Play on it, and that was mixing a 3DS and a DS while playing it. I have quite the library of DS & DSi games, and every one which supports local wireless has worked flawlessly on my launch 3DS. I notice no difference in performance between running a game wirelessly on a DS Lite versus a 3DS.

[Nz17]

To get back on topic...

I wish Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Episode 1, 2, etc. were all collected on one disc.

I know that's an unlikely scenario at best. The first episode sold well due to the hype from SEGA about this being the true next chronological game in the series after Sonic & Knuckles and "OMG YOu only play as Sonic.super cool rite?!" But the game itself was a mess. Level design was bunk, tons of lives lost due to poor game design, bad music, wonky physics by real-world or Sonic game standards, a "we will put you out of your protective furl whenever we can (like when you hit a spring) to make you look cool while putting you at risk of instant ring loss when you would normally have destroyed an enemy in any other Sonic game" kind of mentality. And many cases of using enemies as platforms which you needed to attack to continue and if you did it in the wrong direction or out-of-order you were FUBAR and had to just die to have another go at the section as now it was rendered impassible without the enemies to attack.

Then with Episode 2 SEGA tried to hype that by saying, "Oh yeah what we really meant before was that the 16bit games went 1 2 3 Knuckles Eps. 1 CD 'cause release order doesnt count and OMG LOOK its Metal Sonic he's back from SONIC CD cuz this gaem is the sequel to SONIC CD isnt Metal cool and baadass? oh also tails." But ironically, even though Eps. 2 was better than Eps. 1 in all ways (though still not that good, probably a 7/10), it got a lower rating on Metacritic and the like because of the bad aftertaste Eps. 1 left for people. Plus many folks were unhappy that you couldn't play as Tails solo. And don't forget, players who bought the Wii version of Eps. 1 got cheated out of Episode Metal, the special 4 level remix of Eps. 1 starring Metal Sonic, as Eps. 2 wasn't available for the Wii and you needed both Eps. on the same console to unlock Episode Metal. So Episode 2 sold poorly.

As Episode 1 only really sold on hype and Episode 2 had bad sales, these add up to there likely never being an Episode 3. The plan SEGA had, as I understand it, was to copy Nintendo's New Super Mario Bros. series with Sonic 4. But the company didn't want to pay out the money to develop a full-sized game like Nintendo had, so it decided to just release it episodically with each part funding the next. However with Episode 1's quality catching up to SEGA and ruining Episode 2's sales, there probably will never be an Eps. 3. And SEGA's silence about another entry in this sub-series all but confirms that.

So I say, gather Episodes 1, Metal, and 2 all on one disc and sell it at retail. For those who don't buy downloads it would be a good way to get to experience these games (or even be made aware of them in the first place), Sonic sells well to parents who often only shop in retail stores, and for Sonic collectors, this compilation would be a must-have addition for their collections. The games might not be great, but they are worth a once-through play-through and occasionally going back to Episode 2.

[drtomoe123]

Isn't that one of those 'Guild' games? Perhaps if they had(did?) sell into the tens or hundreds of thousands of copies overall(between them) it would be cool if they did a bundle package much like how Sony did the Journey collection for PS3 with it, flow, and flower on there.

That would have been fantastic! The only other game I bought from the Guild series was Crimson Shroud, the one done by Matsuno. I feel like the entire collection between Guild01 and Guild02 would be more than enough content for a meaty compilation cart. It's a shame though because it's really unlikely that the games sold well at all. :(

On a side note, Attack of the Friday Monsters was developed by the same guy who created the Boku no Natsuyasumi series that's been on every PS platform aside from the Vita and PS4. They're all really unique titles that center around a young boy on his summer vacation and they sadly never made it to America. I'd honestly love to have any of these games over here.

[Tanooki]

Good suggestion on Sonic, also proves still Sega in all these years have learned nothing from their bad decision making.

I've never bought a guild game, but have invested time watching a lot of them and the shooter and airport game really grabbed me, just not the price is all on the Nintendo systems since they're stuck on it. I'd probably snap them up on Android since you can strip APKs from those or a PC version if it wasn't steam crippled.