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PizzaKat
01-22-2015, 09:34 PM
i got a couple of Wii Points cards can anyone suggest a few good TG16 games?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virtual_Console_games_for_Wii_%28North_Ame rica%29#TurboGrafx-16.2FTurboGrafx-CD

Thanks.

bb_hood
01-22-2015, 10:01 PM
Lords of Thunder and Castlevania

retroman
01-22-2015, 10:12 PM
Where to start? Tons of good games for the TG16. Bonk series, Legendary Axe series, New Adventure Island, Splatterhouse, Bloody Wolf, Gate of Thunder, Air Zonk, Neutopia series, Galaga 90. I could go on forever.

Tanooki
01-22-2015, 10:29 PM
A fool would buy TG16 CD type games and ignore Ys Book I&II. Gradius 2 is also excellent. I'll also agree with Castlevania Rondo of Blood as I used to own that one too. Bonk 3 is also fantastic and fantastically overpriced on a real disc. :D

If you went hucard style, there's a good spread on there with: the Bonks, the Bombermans 93 and 94, New Adventure Island, Super star Soldier, Military Madness, Splatterhouse, Bravoman (kinda like megaman), Ninja Spirit, Blazing Lazers, Alien or Devils Crush, Air Zonk, Galaga 90, and Detana Twinbee to name a few.

If the Gate of Thunder release on there is the ENTIRE CD from the TG16 that's your best buy for the money. The game was a system pack in, it came also with Bonk1 and Bonk2, and if you keyed in a few buttons on the controller, you could also unlock Bomberman (aka Dynablaster in Europe on PC and TG16 if you look it up because it's not the NES Bomberman.)

Leo_A
01-22-2015, 11:04 PM
Just so you know, Castlevania Rondo of Blood is on the PSP Castlevania release. So if you'd rather spend your points on something exclusive to the Wii where modern gaming platforms are concerned, you might want to pass on that one.

The Adventurer
01-23-2015, 12:19 AM
Isn't the PSP version a remake? The Wii version is at least accurat to the original release.

As for other recommendations; the Bonk games and Dungeon Explorer are good'ns.


Also, I recommend taking look at the Nep Geo section if you haven't already. Some real gems in there too.

celerystalker
01-23-2015, 12:53 AM
I haven't looked to see what all is up, but I'll list some I enjoy:

Last Alert
Final Soldier
War of the Dead
Valkyrie no Densetsu
Blazing Lazers
Salamander
Gradius II
Super Star Soldier
Star Parodier
Gate of Thunder
Lords of Thunder
Soldier Blade
Air Zonk
Super Air Zonk
Bonk's Adventure
Bonk's Revenge
Bonk's Big Adventure
Keith Courage in Alpha Zones
Legendary Axe
Legendary Axe II
Y's Book I&II
Exile
Cadash
Neutopia
Neutopia II
Bloody Wolf
R-Type Complete
Legend of Xanadu
Legend of Xanadu II
Dungeon Explorer
Dungeon Explorer II
Military Madness
Sidearms
Sinistron
Ninja Spirit

Also, yes, Castlevania: Rondo of Blood is on the PSP remake. Yes, the main game is a polygonal remake, but the 2D originsl and Symphony of the Night are unlockable.

SparTonberry
01-23-2015, 01:39 AM
If the Gate of Thunder release on there is the ENTIRE CD from the TG16 that's your best buy for the money.
I don't have it but I doubt it's the multi-game CD they'd give you for $8. (or else you wouldn't need to buy the two Bonk games for another $12. ;) )
(I bought Lords of Thunder, and I was convinced I wanted it physically so I bought the Sega CD version that was only slightly cheaper)

(the SMS games probably deliberately skipped the BIOS so as to not even give you the snail game for free)

Leo_A
01-23-2015, 01:59 AM
Isn't the PSP version a remake? The Wii version is at least accurat to the original release.


While Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles is a remake, the original is also included as an extra (Along with Symphony of the Night).

Edit: Celerystalker already explained, I see.

Gameguy
01-23-2015, 02:20 AM
Just so you know, Castlevania Rondo of Blood is on the PSP Castlevania release. So if you'd rather spend your points on something exclusive to the Wii where modern gaming platforms are concerned, you might want to pass on that one.
Technically any of the vintage games available for the virtual console are also available for download and emulation elsewhere, so being available elsewhere isn't that much of a reason to avoid a purchase when it comes to any virtual console games.

PizzaKat
01-23-2015, 02:53 AM
Just so you know, Castlevania Rondo of Blood is on the PSP Castlevania release. So if you'd rather spend your points on something exclusive to the Wii where modern gaming platforms are concerned, you might want to pass on that one.

Yeah I was thinking about that the exclusive games only on the Wii. I was going to get S.C.A.T. but since its on the Wii U I'd rather get games that will most likely never appear on that console. So I'd rather just get games that I most likely won't get since TurboGrafx Cd games are way too much for my blood not to mention the console itself. There is also the issue of how long these would be up as well. I'm not sure why they discontinued some games.

celerystalker
01-23-2015, 03:23 AM
Yeah, buying Turbo CD games at market value is a little out of hand these days, and with all the capacitor issues the units are prone to, snapping those up is likely a great alternative. If I hadn't gotten my stuff a long time ago when it didn't cost so much, I'd be looking at VC or all the Hudson re-release collections on PSP. They did some cool collections like Star Soldier and Tengai Makyou in Japan, and they look pretty cool.

treismac
01-23-2015, 01:55 PM
Ninja Spirit rocks.

Tanooki
01-23-2015, 02:03 PM
Going to agree with celery, buying any good TG CD game these days is not cost intelligent or effective. The last time I looked a year ago or two for Ys Book 1&2 it was disturbingly high for what that game is and how many times it has been re-released in modern formats in better shape (other than the music, love the music.) I don't have a Wii, but if I did, that list for those prices would be SUPER tempting.

Leo_A
01-23-2015, 06:09 PM
Technically any of the vintage games available for the virtual console are also available for download and emulation elsewhere, so being available elsewhere isn't that much of a reason to avoid a purchase when it comes to any virtual console games.

I was only talking about official availability, either in download or physical form, on a contemporary game console/handheld.

I didn't know if it mattered to him, but it seemed possibly pertinent (As it appears it was, judging by his response).

Sailorneorune
01-24-2015, 09:23 PM
Going to agree with celery, buying any good TG CD game these days is not cost intelligent or effective. The last time I looked a year ago or two for Ys Book 1&2 it was disturbingly high for what that game is and how many times it has been re-released in modern formats in better shape (other than the music, love the music.) I don't have a Wii, but if I did, that list for those prices would be SUPER tempting.

The Wii is a fantastic buy even if you get it just for Virtual Console games.

I actually have a story to back this up. About 7 years ago, I bought Pulseman on the Mega Drive. Original Japanese version, CIB. $60 shipped from Singapore.

7 years later... Pulseman's secondary market "value" has tripled (probably due to the few thousand Sega kids dotting the Americas who got to play it back in the day now having disposable income, and Game Freak's massive worldwide popularity from Pokémon and HarmoKnight). A legal download of Pulseman on the Wii Virtual Console is $9.

So, you can get a Wii for about $50-60, blow a $20 Wii Points card on Pulseman and something else, and still come out ahead by about $100. Plus, you'll have one more game.

FieryReign
01-27-2015, 06:24 AM
Never understood the point of Virtual Console when all of these games can be emulated for free. I'd be damned if I pay Nintendo money to play 20 year old games that they didn't even produce.

YoshiM
01-27-2015, 09:34 AM
Never understood the point of Virtual Console when all of these games can be emulated for free. I'd be damned if I pay Nintendo money to play 20 year old games that they didn't even produce.

The point? To at least be legit for having the ROM along with the knowledge that it's going to work and you didn't have to go to some virus-laden site to get it.

You filthy pirate, you ;)

Einzelherz
01-27-2015, 10:31 AM
Never understood the point of Virtual Console when all of these games can be emulated for free. I'd be damned if I pay Nintendo money to play 20 year old games that they didn't even produce.

To play it on any TV with authentic/semi authentic controllers. Not that you couldn't do that also with a hacked Wii.

Nintendo need to shore up their VC ownership policy though. It's BS that if you have more than one of any given console you have to buy the games for each one.

The Adventurer
01-27-2015, 05:50 PM
Never understood the point of Virtual Console when all of these games can be emulated for free. I'd be damned if I pay Nintendo money to play 20 year old games that they didn't even produce.

If Nintendo didn't produce them, then Nintendo is paying somebody for the rights to have them on their Virtual Console. Paying for these games shows there is still interest in these games.


Emulation is fine in certain circumstances (unreleased Japanese games, stupid expensive games). But if there's a way I can show SNK or Konami I still care about their games, I'm sure as shit going to pump a couple bucks their way.

FieryReign
01-27-2015, 06:11 PM
Virtual console is emulation. Period. I wasn't aware Konami and SNK were still producing quality games. I highly doubt Hudson Soft and NEC are getting compensated for these old games. But hey, if you like stuffing more money into Nintendos pockets for emulation, feel free to do so.

The Adventurer
01-27-2015, 07:49 PM
Virtual console is emulation.
Offical emulation with offical support.



Period. I wasn't aware Konami and SNK were still producing quality games.
I'm sorry you're missing important information?


I highly doubt Hudson Soft and NEC are getting compensated for these old games.
Hudson's catalog is owned by Konami these days. Not sure who actually owns the rights to the Turbographix hardware. I believe some Turbo catalog titles on the VC have NEC as publisher, so they might still be involved.


But hey, if you like stuffing more money into Nintendos pockets for emulation, feel free to do so.

Again. You're putting money into these company's pockets to tell them that you want more Bonk, or Earthbound, or King of Fighters, etc... and puting money into Nintendo's pockets to tell them you want them on Nintendo consoles.

In business you vote with your dollars. When you steal and emulate you tell the publishers that you don't give a shit about their product in any meaningful way.



Honestly what really sucks is how the Wii U doesn't have the same level of VC support as the Wii did. Wii VC doesn't get updated any more and you can't get Sega, TurboGraphix, or Neogeo titles on the Wii U. Sucks.

Gentlegamer
01-27-2015, 08:55 PM
To play it on any TV with authentic/semi authentic controllers.

I can use the Ootake emulator on my laptop with a USB adapter for my SNES controller. :D

OP, almost the entire list of games there is worth playing, except for the sports titles and maybe China Warrior, JJ and Jeff, Riot Zone, and Fighting Street.

The Bonk games are good, but not stand out platformers.

The must play games there are

Rondo of Blood
Gate of Thunder
Lords of Thunder
Blazing Lazers
Military Madness
Ys Book I & II
Gradius II
Neutopia
Neutopia II
Ninja Spirit

I have other favorites like Splatterhouse, Cratermaze, and Devil's Crush, but they may not appeal to you.

Gameguy
01-27-2015, 11:34 PM
I was only talking about official availability, either in download or physical form, on a contemporary game console/handheld.

I didn't know if it mattered to him, but it seemed possibly pertinent (As it appears it was, judging by his response).
Fair enough. Personally I have a Turbo Duo so I'd rather just play the games on the actual console. I got lucky and got it along with games before everything really shot up in price. It's the same reason I'm reluctant to bother searching out the PSP release for Rondo of Blood, you have to unlock the original versions instead of just being able to play them. I really should play more with the Turbo Duo, it hasn't been hooked up in a long time. There's still a bunch of games I'm hoping to find for it.


If Nintendo didn't produce them, then Nintendo is paying somebody for the rights to have them on their Virtual Console. Paying for these games shows there is still interest in these games.

Emulation is fine in certain circumstances (unreleased Japanese games, stupid expensive games). But if there's a way I can show SNK or Konami I still care about their games, I'm sure as shit going to pump a couple bucks their way.

Again. You're putting money into these company's pockets to tell them that you want more Bonk, or Earthbound, or King of Fighters, etc... and puting money into Nintendo's pockets to tell them you want them on Nintendo consoles.

In business you vote with your dollars. When you steal and emulate you tell the publishers that you don't give a shit about their product in any meaningful way.
I avoid purchasing any digital games or digital movies because I want physical copies. If people just buy digital copies why would any company bother to make physical versions later on? Most companies wouldn't. And for people who already paid for a digital copy, why would they buy a copy again if it gets a physical release later? Digital copies don't encourage companies to produce more related content, it's just a cheap easy way for them to cash in on existing products with minimal cost or effort on their end.

It's basically the same reason why the Toronto Maple Leafs suck. People pay for tickets and buy the merchandise even if they're terrible, why should they bother to try when they'll make money anyway? People just complain while still paying them their money.

The Adventurer
01-28-2015, 12:01 AM
Since I've been pretty much digital only since 2007... its not really a concern for me. I buy games, not plastic. I buy physical release games only when its more practical (like 3DS and Wii. Because of space constraints. I need more storage space for Digital only releases)