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Nophix
02-12-2015, 06:09 AM
The wife and I got our taxes back. Our normal course of action is to throw a chunk in savings, catch up on vehicle maintenance and stock up on kid stuff during the sales, then take a chunk and throw it towards our gaming hobby.

This year, we were all set to buy either 1 or both of the new consoles. We already have a WiiU, which we love.

When the 360 came out, I had to have one. I got a launch unit, and it goes down as probably my favorite console ever. I picked up a PS3 a couple years later, wife and kids love it, me, not so much.

Well, I went to visit my parents over Xmas, and was watching the ordeal my brother had to go through just to play a new X1 game. My god, what happened to just sticking the disc in and playing? Also, I can download and install AAA titles off Steam and be playing in a couple minutes. This thing was pulling from a disc and it took an hour!

Add to that it doesn't seem worlds better than my 360, and I'm all in for waiting for them to get cheaper. Same thing with the PS4.

I must be getting old or something. I love my Vita and 3ds. The WiiU is getting a good amount of play time. My 360 is still hands down my favorite console. I just can't seem to fork over the cash for either of the new consoles.

Tron 2.0
02-12-2015, 06:29 AM
Not interested in the XB1 in the least bit even for KI.Though last year i got a PS4 mostly for bloodborne which comes out in march.Still exclusive for the PS4 have really trickle out,sony really needs to step up on that.

Cornelius
02-12-2015, 08:54 AM
I'm not jumping on board either. Last gen I only got a Wii because after a more than a year I actually saw them in a store, and my father-in-law really wanted me to get one (he was with me at the time). And I only really got a PS3 initially because it had a blu-ray player.

This gen I have a WiiU because, well, Zelda edition (I'm hopeless). It is great for the reasons that Nintendo is great (zelda, mario, pikmin, 1st party etc.). And the other two? Well, same as you, I have a nice gaming PC and prices drop so damn fast on Steam. Between that and my backlog going back to NES and SMS, well the shine on the newest stuff just doesn't seem as bright. I dunno, this is probably an old story by now.

retroguy
02-12-2015, 08:59 AM
I guess I should say I'm not currently interested, but if Rockstar ever makes a sequel to Bully (which they've been hinting for several years they want to), that alone would be enough for me to get either a WiiU or PS4, whichever.

Tanooki
02-12-2015, 09:37 AM
I am kind of interested in the PS4 and happened to get one last year when I was able to pull some magic and score it for 1/2 off. There are 6 games on the shelf, have had a couple other turds like Destiny I've sold off and it mainly gets used for movies and other stuff as of late because of my new laptop for PC gaming and a few other odds and ends including the 3DS.

I'd never touch the X1 and for the reasons you wrote, not that the PS4 doesn't have some of that too but handles it in a somewhat less annoying way more often than not. I've never been a fan of the console era of storage devices, it's a horse shit period now that allows unfinished product to come to the stores and use your full price paying consumers as final beta testers which is reprehensible. People don't seem to mind, probably also don't realize one day that those patches won't be around anymore and you'll have a broken disc to screw with if you even care anymore. When the PS3 got put out to pasture here as a bluray/netflix box on the main TV I got rid of the games and that's entirely why -- patches, slow bitchy installs, and all the other bloat and harassment which won't age well once support ceases so I saw no reason to bother. It's sad that at least with an android device (nexus, phone, mad cats mojo tv thing, etc) you can always update and still use what you ahve and carry it over painlessly and these consoles since the last generation won't get the same respect. I find it quite the turn off. Maybe it's age, but I think it's a lot more having some general sense of value and self respect but I'd rather buy something that's a finished product I won't have to worry about as soon as it's opened or a bit later about it working right in the future.

ProjectCamaro
02-12-2015, 11:24 AM
I have all three current generation consoles and they all have their pros and cons. As for graphics they are better than last generation but yes the jump currently isn't huge but we had the same thing last generation too. Look at the late XBox games and then look at the launch XBox 360 games and they don't look that different. Then look at the late XBox 360 games and that looks like it's on a completely different console, the same thing will happen this generation.

The PS4 and XBox One both have their issues but they play some really fun games and in the end that's all the matters. I actually haven't even turned on my PS3 or Xbox 360 since I picked up the current generation games in late 2013.

Zthun
02-12-2015, 11:36 AM
Once NIS releases Disgaea 5 on the PS4, then I will show interest. Until then, there's no point in a new console. Exclusives are all that matter to me now. If anything, I would say the WiiU is the best of the current gen.

sfchakan
02-12-2015, 12:48 PM
Bulking up our PCs in our house and likely skipping this console generation until much, much later. We'll re-examine some of the exclusives and see if we care enough to try them out.

Just don't see the point in bothering.

Nophix
02-12-2015, 08:47 PM
I'm sure I'll buy both, but I'm guessing I'll be waiting a couple years for the libraries to bulk up and prices to come down.

In the mean time, looks like PS3 titles are getting cheap!

megasdkirby
02-12-2015, 08:54 PM
No interest, many factors:

-Extremely tight income, barely enough for the bills and food
-Many...MANY games I have yet to play from past consoles. Can last me forever, basically.
-Price not attractive. Reduce to at least $250 to consider.
-Fearful of shoddy hardware. Will wait at least two years to make sure all or at least most kinks are taken care off.
-Little games of interest.
-Quite a considerable loss of interest in gaming. Just not the same as before/in the past.
-Other worries/priorities in life, mostly involving self improvement and finding inner purpose.

I bet there is more...can't think of any at the moment, though.

Niku-Sama
02-12-2015, 10:07 PM
PS4 yes, but only for a grey version or unless something more gooder comes out for it.

xbone no. done with xbox consoles

kupomogli
02-12-2015, 10:20 PM
I've owned a PS4 since November and I'm pretty disappointed for right now. The exclusives on the system aren't very good, while everything else is just a port of a last gen game. Hotline Miami, a digital title, is probably one of my most played games on the system, a game I've already finished on the PS3, Vita, and PC prior to downloading it and playing it on my PS4. Next to that is Diablo 3, yet another port. The only exclusive I've played, and thought would be amazing, is Infamous Second Son, but that game is garbage compared to even the very first Infamous.

So right now I'm not really happy with my PS4. I'm not happy with my Vita and 3DS either though to be honest. Most of the Vita games are unplayable ports of PS3 games, with the very rare exclusive, and the 3DS actually has some exclusives, but even those are few and far between, atleast those that are worthwhile. I can say I'm currently enjoying the 3DS right now with Fantasy Life, 40 hours and still going strong, but before that it, except for the two times I played a little bit of Fire Emblem, it was when Bravely Default came out since I even touched it for a 3DS game.

A few things I'm disappointed with the PS4 especially are the features. Sending messages on the PS4 aren't instant like they were on the PS3. Sure they'll send instantly, but if you go to look at them when the person just sends them, you might be waiting a few minutes. Sometimes the messages might even delete themselves somehow. It's just really poorly done. I don't record too often, but the PS4 also seems to record at 25fps instead of 30, it just seems really janky, and it's got a max resolution of 720p, and even during that resolution it looks like it washes out the color a bit. You also can't cut it by frames, you can only cut it by seconds. Here's the playlist I made from it though. I love Hotline Miami.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG_Xdunrofg

kai123
02-13-2015, 12:09 AM
I just got an XBONE off of Amazon for $230 brand new and I still haven't opened it. I am not sure I am going to or not. I only bought it because it was so cheap. IDK

WCP
02-13-2015, 01:18 AM
Yeah, both systems really haven't gotten any super, super amazing games yet. The 360 already had Oblivion and Gears by this time, I think. The PS3 already had Motorstorm and the first Uncharted by this time. Seems like these systems are kinda lagging in getting any really huge games for them.


Forza Horizon 2 for the Xbox One is an amazing game though. I mean, it's like fun on a stick. Seriously... If you like racing games, ones that aren't super serious, it's awesome.

Daria
02-13-2015, 01:24 AM
Last generation I favored the 360, but Microsoft lost me towards the end: I'm sick of having ads plastered all over my console, and I'm uninterested in the games coming out in general. As the market shifts to digital distribution I'm shifting to PC gaming. Eventually I can see myself getting a WiiU (for Nintendo franchises) and PS4 (for the RPGs), but not for a few years I'd imagine. I'll spend my time down picking up inexpensive wii and PS3 titles instead.

Gameguy
02-13-2015, 02:56 AM
I have no interest in modern consoles at this time. I have enough games to play through as it is, I see no reason to start buying a new console unless I find it cheap under $30. I just got a Wii maybe a month ago so I'll see if there's any games worth playing on it. Sold off my 3DS just last week, I'll maybe buy another one when it's cheaper like a GBA SP and the games are in the $5-$10 range. There's really nothing I'm desperate to play on modern consoles.

retroguy
02-13-2015, 08:39 AM
I just got a Wii maybe a month ago so I'll see if there's any games worth playing on it.

I primarily got one so I could install the Homebrew Channel and let it be my emulation machine. I don't have many actual Wii games yet, but among the ones I do have, I'd recommend Sin And Punishment Star Successor and Mad World. If you remember Smash TV, Mad World is like Smash TV on steroids.

Tanooki
02-13-2015, 09:33 AM
I think an article probably could be written up against the entire run of all 3 systems this go around in how all three have been partly to entirely mismanaged and it is the root cause of their crappier than expected sales. Price isn't as much of an issue seeing Sony didn't play the $600 is cheap angle and MS behind it with a buggy box that's just a hundred less (hell they role reversed.) Nintendo I think the WiiU is explanatory everything that went and does go wrong there as long as you're not just oblivious and caught up in the first party magic.

The reason I have a PS4 right now that I got mid last year was sheer luck. I found one go up on ebay for $300 shipped, no picture, nothing, risked it as it was new. It ended up being a $500 costco bundle with 3 games they threw in the box and taped back up, of which all sucked (Killzone, NBA2K14, and Knack which could have been good if they didn't screw up the mechanics.) I ended up also having this left over gift card, so between selling those and the card I got it for just under $200 shipped. Then this local dude had a 3 new games for 100 sale here in town so when they were all still full price titles I ended up with Lego Movie, Wolfenstein and Tomb Raider. I basically put very little at all into getting into it or i wouldn't have at all. Since then I got rid of shitty Destiny and Last of Us which is a huge let down, and have Pinball, LBP3, and Retro City Rampage DX -- that's it. The next game I grab will be Final Fantasy Type0. I don't give a crap about the lame online features for making movies, gloating, the share button or the rest. I just play the discs, watch blu rays, and it gets used when I feel the need or it sits, but it sits far less than the WiiU ever did. The 3DS still gets the most use and it's spotty because it has had a general lack of things to care about out for it for quite awhile aside from what Nintendo puts out for some sad reason....hopefully the new 3DS.

I think it's not as much a problem of a lack of interest in the PS4/X1, but a lack of anything special released on them you can't get in better form on the PC if you have a semi-modern decent one with an average video card and at least 8GB of ram in the system. As this year rolls though that will change entirely, more looking at what's coming by far for PS4 over the X1. MS seems to lack the exclusives because even when they get one like Titanfall a superior version hits the PC. At least the uniques that Sony gets stay stuck on their system justifying a purchase.

In a way I guess I'm starting to go in the direction Daria said, as things go digital I'm more going towards the PC. At least on the computer even when it's digital you can back that junk up and keep a copy around for a lot of stuff, but on a console you're stuck on their unique hardware, network, and really self serving terms of service which is not appealing. I think long term I may just keep one if that modern system around for the unique games and otherwise let it sit as the computer will suffice and handhelds we'll just see how they go. There's so many fools out there who don't care if they own what they pay for it's killing the market for a dedicated handheld under that and crap IAP, freemiums and dollar to five buck quick play instant gratification garbage.

Nophix
02-13-2015, 03:02 PM
I've been doing more Steam stuff, but I run a MacBook, so I have to use my wife's for a lot of them. Honestly, hers does play better anyhow, since it's an Asus republic of Gamers machine. But, it's set up for her.

I also wind up playing portable quite a bit. I love my 3ds dearly, as well as my PSP. I also just picked up a Vita, which is awesome.

The 1 2 P
02-13-2015, 04:17 PM
I was much less interested this gen than I was last gen but eventually got an Xbox One for Halo: The Masterchief Collection. During launch you were better off playing the campaign but luckily the majority of multiplayer issues were fixed by mid December. I've picked up a few cheap games for it as well but have mostly been playing Halo:MCC and Call of Duty: AW when solo and when my girlfriend comes over I'll play all the various free games they give you each month for being a gold member.

I have zero interest in either the PS4 or Wii U. The Wii U did finally get some decent games last year but the PS4 has nothing on it that would make me drop any amount of money on it. I was one of those people that had every system the last few gens but I realized I just don't have time to play everything anymore with work, my girlfriend and my social life so this gen will be Xbox One and 3DS only, although I still pick up Wii U and PS4 games for cheap to use for trades or to sell.

Having said that, I have been somewhat underwhelmed by this whole gen so far when it comes to all the systems. I know it's still very early but the 360 was such a classic system last gen that it's difficult for any of the newer systems to compare to that. I would have picked up an Xbox One eventually(preferably when the hard drives were larger than 1 TB as my Call of Duty system is) but I wouldn't have minded waiting another year or two before doing so. If theres another generation after this one I might pass on that entirely.

buzz_n64
02-13-2015, 05:23 PM
So far there are no exclusive games I want for either system. The only exception might be Killer Instinct for Xbox One, but I will NEVER buy an Xbox One. For this generation I'll stick with PC, maybe at some point get a Wii U, and hope that PS3 ports of current games are still made.

Tanooki
02-13-2015, 06:48 PM
I find myself surprised when I see someone only ok having the One given that MS has few exclusives that stay system bound, it's kind of in a way even more depressing than just buying a Nintendo system for just their games. When you throw in all the hell they caused in the run up with their DRM shenanigans, charging $100 more to start and other garbage I'm surprised they've moved as many as they have.

The thing is what's harming these systems is the asinine developers who dumb down with minimal improvement games for PS4 and the one, then have them also on the old established systems in very good shape with their massive bases of players. You do that, you have no motivation to bother upgrading at all.

Gameguy
02-13-2015, 11:57 PM
I primarily got one so I could install the Homebrew Channel and let it be my emulation machine. I don't have many actual Wii games yet, but among the ones I do have, I'd recommend Sin And Punishment Star Successor and Mad World. If you remember Smash TV, Mad World is like Smash TV on steroids.
I'll see what I do with it, I haven't even hooked it up to a TV to fully test it out yet. Got it cheap because it wouldn't power on, I got a new power adapter and it powers on fine. The main game I was interested in getting for the Wii only came out in Europe, it's like Nintendo just didn't want me to want their system. I never modded one before so I'll have to look into it, I just don't want to ruin it.

retroman
02-13-2015, 11:58 PM
I am not in a hurry to get a PS4 or XB1 anytime soon either. Right now I just think the price is still to high and not enough of a reason for me to pick either one of them up. I also am very happy right no with my Wii U, and 3DS. Plenty to keep me busy with what little extra time I do have.

WCP
02-14-2015, 12:20 AM
if Bethesda announces Fallout 4, I imagine that game will get a bunch of people either to buy a gaming PC or one of these consoles. That game is going to be a big freaking deal... (at least I hope so.. I loved Fallout 3 :) )

wizardofwor
02-14-2015, 04:13 AM
I like the XBox One.....I started on the 2600 and it seems to have the 'type' of game I want. It has a ways to go, but I haven't been disappointed.

Tron 2.0
02-14-2015, 05:21 AM
I'm sure I'll buy both, but I'm guessing I'll be waiting a couple years for the libraries to bulk up and prices to come down.

In the mean time, looks like PS3 titles are getting cheap!
There's no rush heck liked i said before the release have really trickle out,very slowly.I know i'm waiting on xenoblade chronicles x for the wii u.Though who knows how long it will take for xenoblade chroinicles-x to get localize.

Nophix
02-14-2015, 06:19 AM
if Bethesda announces Fallout 4, I imagine that game will get a bunch of people either to buy a gaming PC or one of these consoles. That game is going to be a big freaking deal... (at least I hope so.. I loved Fallout 3 :) )

If Fallout 4 hits them, I'm a in! I love the Fallout franchise! I honestly have more time in F3 than any game ever.

And oddly enough, as much of an Cbox guy as I was last gen, I'm leaning slightly towards a PS4 first.

I'll eventually buy both, I always do. There just isn't a reason I can see right now. I'm just surprised because usually I'm chomping at the bit for new consoles.

We did buy a WiiU. We waited for the Zelda edition. It was actually a gift for my wife who's a huge Zelda fan. I love that system, but it's Nintendo, and they're in their own category. I wasn't a major fan of the Wii, even though it has some stellar titles. The WiiU just feels like what the Wii should have been to me. I'm not all about the motion control business. Too lazy.

BHvrd
02-14-2015, 01:32 PM
My 8 year old PC runs games and looks better than PS4/X1, so it would purely be for exclusives which is why I have a WiiU as there are no exclusives I desire on either other console other than possibly Killer Instinct or the upcoming Quantum Break but that's gonna be on PC also, so yeah, no interest.

Also have to say the WiiU gamepad is a perfect PC companion as I can game on the PC and use the gamepad to surf gamefaqs/internet or watch Twitch, sure I could use a laptop or tablet but it's just an added benefit to consider and has a nice charge stand and really helps with watching Netflix bedside. :p

Add to that streaming games to the WiiU gamepad while chillaxing in different areas of the house which adds gaming flexibility and you can start to see why it's a bit more next level. Really enjoy taking Hyrule Warriors to the toilet with me, though I hope I never drop it in, and hygiene, hygiene is important, so need lots of anti-bacterial soap. ;)

duffmanth
02-20-2015, 09:54 AM
I got a PS4 a few months ago only because I bought it off a friend who won it in a golf tournament for $350 lol. I wouldn't pay $450-500 for one in a store yet, as there's just not enough AAA games that interest me yet. The PS4 will be worth owning by the fall though, Metal Gear Solid 5, Uncharted 4, and Bloodborne, will be out amongst other big games. There might even be a good price drop by then? I don't really have an opinion on the Xbox One as I've never really been an Xbox fan. If you enjoyed your 360 though, I would imagine the Xbox One will be worth your while at some point.

Tanooki
02-20-2015, 10:54 AM
Neither of them, hell any of the 3 new consoles out now are worth the asking price. All of them have failings that would make one want to hold out unless the asking price is chump change or they get a hell of a deal on it. PS4 has future promise, but what's there now is nothing unique worth getting much at all. MS had (not now) the higher price and even less unique for it, and the unique game Titanfall got a superior PC version which made it irrelevant. Then you have the WiiU which got abandoned by third parties so you buy it for their games or basically nothing.

I had a WiiU, probably won't again unless magic happens and it gets good all around support. PS4 I have, but only because I got it after some twists and turns for $200. As it is the (new)3DS and PC are all that mainly drives my gaming at this rate. I will be gifted FF Type0 shortly so that PS4 will be fired up again in a month for something other than movies.

slip81
02-20-2015, 09:17 PM
Neither one at the moment, but I always wait a while for the next gen anyway. Even though I always want to get a system on launch day, I always stop myself because I realize there aren't enough games I want for it to justify the price tag.

Though I'll probably eventually go with a PS4, mainly because I tend to like PS exclusives better than Xbox ones.

Nz17
02-26-2015, 03:56 AM
I will be skipping PS4 and XB1.

I already have a huge backlog of games as is, and I haven't even begun on PS2, PS3, Xbox, and XB360. And I have a lot of catching-up to do with GameCube and Dreamcast.

Plus I H-A-T-E the evil, hardware-based and software-based DRM of the latest game consoles and their frequent firmware updates. These updates can radically worsen the user interface and remove features or delete content. No thanks. I prefer "finished" consoles like the Wii and PSP where there are no more firmware updates (or even better, older hardware which never had to deal with the things). What is "pried open" by the homebrew community will stay available on these older consoles, unlike the "living" consoles where things like that can be zapped remotely on a whim or during an update.

Tanooki
02-26-2015, 08:55 AM
The problem with the whole HD gen of consoles is the fact they decided to take advantage of internal storage and the internet to basically make a closed (other than HDD swap out) PC setup of a console basically with all the downers that come with it, and then some. The negatives with owning a PC for gaming is that for years some companies would rush a game out it wouldn't be done due to deadlines or poor testing and you'd get patches. Sometimes they were a few MB, others they'd be 100s of them or even over 1GB in size which is ridiculous but it was expected and being that it's a PC you're not stuck waiting.

On the console it's far worse. They're a closed box with security issues since hackers try and get their warez or other kicks out of it, so you have this endless stream of firmware updates with justifiable additions which sometimes add great new stuff, but often it's under the hood patches/fixes and when that whole update runs you're locked out of the system. Then you magnify that complaint with all the unfinished games which seems to be MOST console games these days where it's patch after patch at times and you're just stuck waiting for it to download (slowly) then patch and wait some more. They're basically taking what the PC did but making you sit and wait with nothing to do while it does this garbage and it happens often, too often. Nintendo has some blame to share a little too even on the handheld side as does Sony, but the updates there seem far fewer and small in size so it's not much of a deal, and thankfully I rarely have had to run a game update on either the 3DS or the Vita when I had it, and those were quick too because it appears at least on handhelds people try and bug test the stuff completely before release probably due to the lack of mass storage. It's easier not to give a damn about your customer with patches when you have 500GB or whatever in storage, but a handheld will have a few GB or whatever so they kind of have to care a bit more.

CDiablo
02-26-2015, 12:14 PM
I got my Wii U cause they have some killer exclusives. I got my next gen systems cause none of my friends are on PC. They have exclusives as well but "AAA" gaming is less and less for me as the days go by.

Guntz
02-26-2015, 12:43 PM
Completely and utterly not interested. They're expensive like the last new launch go around and this time there's practically nothing worth playing. Neither the PS4 or X1 interests me in any way, I feel like the game industry is going somewhere my preferences and tastes won't let me go. There's more stuff worth playing on obsolete consoles now anyway.

The one exception is the Wii U, at the very least, Nintendo's games are still worth playing. The 3DS is also very good. These days it feels like only Nintendo still makes just video game consoles. Sony and Microsoft sell what are essentially full realized Phillips CD-i consoles. You know, multimedia boxes. That impossible dream of the 90s is perfected on the PS4/X1 today (also on the PS3/360).

Daria
02-26-2015, 02:40 PM
I was waiting on the PS4 but they just announced Dragon Quest Heroes for a US release. So I'm looking at picking up the console around the Holidays. Hopefully I can hit a good sale on it.

Tanooki
02-26-2015, 03:12 PM
Good point about Nintendo systems. Nintendo staunchly will flip the bird to going media box and still just makes hardware to push games and games alone. That in itself is commendable.

The 1 2 P
02-26-2015, 03:18 PM
Sony and Microsoft sell what are essentially full realized Phillips CD-i consoles. You know, multimedia boxes. That impossible dream of the 90s is perfected on the PS4/X1 today (also on the PS3/360).

Welcome to evolution. You may have also noticed that your phone is no longer just for making calls and some television's can do alittle more than show you the latest episode of Arrow. I understand what you're saying about the Wii U focusing on strictly gaming more than Microsoft or Sony but the fact that the Wii U has sold the least amount of systems(despite releasing a full year ahead of the other two systems) lends some credit to the argument that the majority of consumers want their consoles to do more than just play video games. And speaking for myself theres not a day that goes by when I'm on my 360 or Xbox One where atleast a third of my friends online are in some kind of non-gaming app such as Netflix or Hula. But if your needs are strictly gaming than yes I'd recommend a 3DS or Wii U if you're ok with mostly Nintendo first party games and very little third party major releases.

Guntz
02-26-2015, 03:42 PM
Welcome to evolution. You may have also noticed that your phone is no longer just for making calls and some television's can do alittle more than show you the latest episode of Arrow. I understand what you're saying about the Wii U focusing on strictly gaming more than Microsoft or Sony but the fact that the Wii U has sold the least amount of systems(despite releasing a full year ahead of the other two systems) lends some credit to the argument that the majority of consumers want their consoles to do more than just play video games. And speaking for myself theres not a day that goes by when I'm on my 360 or Xbox One where atleast a third of my friends online are in some kind of non-gaming app such as Netflix or Hula. But if your needs are strictly gaming than yes I'd recommend a 3DS or Wii U if you're ok with mostly Nintendo first party games and very little third party major releases.

You would have a point if I wanted all those things, which I don't. There's next to nothing on TV currently airing that appeals to me. If I want to watch a movie, I'll just do it at a desktop or laptop PC, or I can also connect the laptop to a TV. I don't like my video game consoles being multimedia boxes, all they do is remind me of the terrible direction gaming is going. Everyone, consumers and the industry, take video games for granted. Apparently games aren't good enough to stand alone, so they have to be bundled with movies, TV, music and all other kinds of media to be marketable. That does not appeal to me, thus I am not a consumer of those products. The fact that the PS4 and X1 have sold more units than the older Wii U says that most people only see video games as a casual interest. Those people are really buying a PS4 or X1 to watch movies or TV shows on, with the occasional Call of Duty or Madden game. That's not really comparable to a dedicated game console.

I will say that over the years, the 360 has had a great selection of couch co-op and local multiplayer games. Not a fan of online gaming. I think my favorite Xbox is the first one though, it had several classics that worked better than on the sluggish PS2.

The 1 2 P
02-26-2015, 03:58 PM
You would have a point if I wanted all those things, which I don't. There's next to nothing on TV currently airing that appeals to me.

This is why I said it appears thats what "most consumers" want, not specifically you.


Everyone, consumers and the industry, take video games for granted. Apparently games aren't good enough to stand alone, so they have to be bundled with movies, TV, music and all other kinds of media to be marketable.

I think it has more to do with the fact that as we get older we have less time to enjoy entertainment in comparison to when we were younger. So being able to have multiple forms of entertainment in one box(gaming, tv, music, internet, etc.) is more of a great convience instead of having to use four or more different devices for all those different forms of entertainment. But if it's not your thing then it's not your thing.



The fact that the PS4 and X1 have sold more units than the older Wii U says that most people only see video games as a casual interest. Those people are really buying a PS4 or X1 to watch movies or TV shows on, with the occasional Call of Duty or Madden game. That's not really comparable to a dedicated game console.

My previous answer already touched on this but it's also probably because the XBO and PS4 simply do more than the Wii U does with the built in bluray players being another example. But even when you are talking about strictly gaming, if you throw out all of Microsoft's, Sony's and Nintendo's first party exclusives you are still left with alot of third party games(COD, Battlefield, UFC, Destiny, Batman: Arkham Knight, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, the next Elderscrolls, next Fallout and dozens more) that the Wii U will never see releases for. Some people complain about the Wii U sucks for whatever reasons but it basically just doesn't do as much as the other systems do. But as you already said, you could care less about the multimedia features, which is why I recommended the 3DS(which I own) or Wii U because you seem to be a big fan of Nintendo's first party games. So you should be ok with either system.

Tanooki
02-26-2015, 06:07 PM
But if your needs are strictly gaming than yes I'd recommend a 3DS or Wii U if you're ok with mostly Nintendo first party games and very little third party major releases.

You know that's not entirely fair considering you just pointed out a 1/3 of the time or more those you find online with your friends lists on other systems are just using netflix, hulu, etc or some browsing service. The WiiU and 3DS have those, and I'd argue in better form too, at least Netflix and stuff on WiiU since it'll cast half the junk to the touch panel on the big controller which makes things a hell of a lot more convenient than popping up a menu or remembering button commands. The failing on the WiiU end of it is that they went with a blu-ray style disc, but they again like the Wii didn't want to pay for the branding or licensing files to allow the movie discs to run to cut costs and that's the problem, you can't do movies. I'll straight up admit now if that WiiU would have run DVDs and BluRays I would have kept it because just how damn nicely it handled the likes of Netflix and the rest. The fact I could have taken it a step further and put a movie in while the kid is on Disney Junior I could pop it on my desk with the stand and watch a movie or tv series disc would have been an instant keeper for me. Nintendo and their infinite cheapness and corner cutting be damned.

The 3DS though, you can't make that argument as it doesn't use discs, Vita doesn't either. Sony learned that didn't work so well with their UMDs. THat said if you want a solid gaming box that also runs movie services and a fairly solid speedy browser the beefed up New 3DS really does it well. In a way on that one you get the best of both worlds where it's a Nintendo box made for gaming, but it also has the streaming features you expect from a mobile device for movies and browsing with an HTML5 webkit browser and gets third party games.

The 1 2 P
02-27-2015, 07:44 PM
You know that's not entirely fair considering you just pointed out a 1/3 of the time or more those you find online with your friends lists on other systems are just using netflix, hulu, etc or some browsing service.

How is telling the truth not fair? People on my friends list(myself as well) using non-gaming apps points to the example I was making that the majority of people I know that have an Xbox One or PS4(or 360 or PS3) use the system for more than just games because thats the way those systems were designed.


The WiiU and 3DS have those

Yes but apparently you missed the main focal point of his post. He doesn't care about non-gaming applications or any of the things that make a console a media box, he just wants a console to play games. The Wii U and 3DS do have some non-gaming apps but they have far less on offer than the other four systems. And considering he prefers Nintendo games that should suit his needs just fine.

kai123
02-27-2015, 08:52 PM
I would also like to add that the XBONE and PS4 are also being used by the non gamers of households as well. It makes sense to have things that appeal to people outside of gaming. Most people do not live alone and having those extra services added in makes financial sense to Sony and Microsoft. It just means there is another revenue stream for them if someone wants their music or movie services. Sure I have Netflix on everything that has a screen but I would never see that as a negative aspect and it is one of the reasons why it is so popular. No matter what device you are using you have access to it and the interface is more or less the same across devices.


I am glad that my systems have more than one use. If I get tired of playing games I can immediately switch to watching a movie. There really isn't a negative to that.

FUZZY PICKLES!!!
02-28-2015, 02:20 PM
I'm not interested in either the PS4 or Xbox One. This will almost certainly be the last generation of gaming I participate in and I can't see myself forking over money for a console this generation other than the Wii U (which I got back in December, 2013). There are a few games on the PS4 that I'm interested in, but none I feel would justify paying to invest in one.

I could go on a tangent about how much I despise what the video game industry has turned into and not feeling the slightest bit ashamed about it, but at this point what good is it going to do? Recently I've accepted that the modern video game industry doesn't want my money because my tastes in gaming doesn't fit with what's put on on the market. Even if it did, I still have hundreds of games from previous consoles that I want to get my hands on someday and a huge backlog that I want to work through. Both of these will easily take years, if not decades to complete and even if I actually do complete what I feel would be a satisfying collection of games to play through, that will probably be it for me and gaming. If it weren't for Smash 3DS/Wii U being a thing, I probably would have already finished my collection already and be merely be playing through them.

The 1 2 P
02-28-2015, 03:20 PM
I am glad that my systems have more than one use. If I get tired of playing games I can immediately switch to watching a movie. There really isn't a negative to that.

Correct. If someone were planning on buying a system anyway then theres really nothing negative about having all those extra features regardless of if they use them or not. They just need to make sure the price is right for them.

Aussie2B
02-28-2015, 06:27 PM
Not at this point in time. There's just no compelling reason for me to buy either. Same goes for the Wii U. I do like my Vita a lot, though, it's a nice follow-up to the PSP (although the Vita is in a pretty sorry state in the US; half of my Vita games are Japanese imports). I'm glad I have a 3DS too. I guess this is a repeat of the previous generation for me, when I was way more into the DS and PSP than any of the home consoles. As someone who prefers games developed in Japan and more traditional genres (as in, the kind of stuff that was popular in the 80s and 90s), seems like handhelds are the way to go for me.

Although I am getting more into PC games, which is a surprising twist for me. I thought I'd never get into PC gaming. I still hold that I don't particularly like to play games on a PC, but as I got more into visual novels, my hands were sort of tied. Either got to suck it up or not play at all. But it hasn't been too bad really. Steam is a heck of a lot better of a service than, say, PSN, and with the types of games I'm interested on PC, I don't have to worry about specs or setting up controls (visual novels obviously have low system requirements, and I don't have to do anything but click to progress through them). So some of my modern gaming is on that front. Like I'm really looking forward to playing Clannad when the localization of that is done (granted, the game itself is like a decade old, but this will be its first ever official English release).

The Clonus Horror
03-26-2015, 08:52 PM
I'm "somewhat" interested, but finances and the huge backlog of Xbox, PS2, and 360 titles are what is keeping me from justifying a purchase. I also picked up a Last of Us PS3 Bundle new for $179 last year, and am just starting to get into it, soooo...I think it will be quite a while.

BetaWolf47
03-30-2015, 09:54 PM
I'm not getting an Xbox 1 or PS4 either. That boils down to me just not being interested in the games. I have a gaming PC that I use as a console with Steam Big Picture, and like others said, Steam is a lot less bullshit than consoles. 90% of the stuff I'd want on X1 and PS4 come out on PC, and I can't justify spending that much just to play the other 10%, especially with what little interest I have in western titles.

Rickstilwell1
04-01-2015, 04:43 AM
My main problem is that I bought a bunch of Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 games that I haven't even played yet. And my excuse for not playing them was that I haven't finished my Dreamcast, Playstation 2, Gamecube and Xbox games. Well guess what? I still haven't finished all of those because I still haven't finished all of my Playstation, Nintendo 64 and Saturn games. Well guess what? I still haven't finished all of those because I haven't finished all of my Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis games and I keep wanting to try out all those other odd and end systems of that era. Well guess what? I haven't finished all of those games either because I still haven't finished all of my NES and Sega Master System games... etc etc etc. Ugh. At least the era before NES doesn't have as many games you actually "finish." But with 5 generations of unfinished games and 6-7 generations of unfinished collections still growing slowly it makes it harder to jump into yet another one too except for when it comes to that must-have title which is a continuation of your favorite series or game style. Mario was enough to get me into 3DS and Wii U.

If Oddworld: New N' Tasty had been a physical release it might have talked me into getting a PS4 already because I love that game in its original form but because it is a digital download only and it was announced for PS3 I decided to just wait for the PS3 version and download it there. Maybe Final Fantasy XV will talk me into it when that game goes down in price as a used copy. I'll probably be buying games I want before I buy the systems to play them on this generation. I already bought the one Vita game I wanted near the beginning of the system's life yet don't have the system yet..

celerystalker
04-01-2015, 10:53 AM
I'm currently uninterested in these systems. Like a lot of people have said, there's not much of anything I want to play at all yet on Xbox One or PS4, and the kinds of games that have come out aren't even close to what I play. I hate all of the DRM and necessitating online connection for validation and such. I want to be able to play my games with or without servers, and I want them complete out of the box... and I want a physical copy in that box. I want games that are accessible without ridiculous tutorials that care less about how many hours long they are and more about just being a well-designed game to serve its creative purpose. Most of all, I want games that don't give a shit whether or not they're considered art, because they're confident that what they are is engaging, engrossing, and entertaining, and time will bear out that they were awesome.

I like a game like music. If it's short, sweet, and catchy, awesome. If it takes a little time to digest but really gets in your head, great.... I just want an honest game without pretense, and I get that more from older games.

All that said, if some good games come out that resonate with me like that, I'm sure I could be convinced to love these systems one day, but right now my calendar doesn't have "stop sucking day" circled on it.

Nophix
04-03-2015, 01:03 PM
I guess, here is how I look at games today.

I like my RPG long, shooters short, everything else somewhere between.

6-8 hours is plenty for a COD single player, keeps the action moving and ends before it gets too repetitive. I don't even bother with multiplayer anymore.

On the flip side, I want hours and hours in a game like Fallout or Skyrim. I'm an absolute Fallout nut!

I don't need something to fit a mold just to call itself art. It's an arbitrary word. I want an engaging story, and an interesting game world. I want to be distracted from reality.

That said, if Fallout 4 is only on new Gen consoles, I'll have to buy one of them.

otaku
04-08-2015, 10:18 PM
I was the same way had to have a 360 dropped $500 on one. Don't feel that way about either of the new consoles I'll hold out till they drop to low price points and have big libraries of cheap games. This is also largely because I work a lot and have very little spending money though