Fuck You, Nintendo

[FieryReign]

So I see they're cracking down on rom sites. Removing videos on Youtube of games they didn't even fucking produce. I even hear rumblings of them getting emulators removed from Android/iOS. You must really be desperate with poor sales of your current console? So you try and pull your monopolizing garbage from the 80s? You really think people are going to buy your POS console now? No. You're just driving people away and pissing people off.

I'm done with you and will never buy anything with your name on it again. I will be selling off my entire 3DS collection with a huge smile on my face. Good riddance, Nintendo. You really fucked up this time. I spit on your grave because you will be irrelevant in the future. Good luck with everybody and buying mobile shit from this garbage company in the future. That's where they are headed and I hope they fail hard. Pussies...

[The Adventurer]

That's nice? I'm going to keep liking Nintendo for making fantastic games if its all the same.

[Dashopepper]

What jerks! Game stealers unite!

[FieryReign]

What jerks! Game stealers unite!

None of my 3DS stuff is stolen, including the dozens of eshop games I paid for. You can't even put up a youtube video of their games without them getting it removed. They're only doing this because they have their own mobile emulators in the pipeline. And they are desperate. They just can't compete with the big boys anymore so they're going after the small fries. Like true pussies.

People can continue to kiss their ass all they want. I won't be one of them.

[retroguy]

What jerks! Game stealers unite!

If it's for a platform that's no longer supported and from which they are no longer making any money, it doesn't count. I can see an argument for first and second party games because there's always a slim chance they might rerelease something, but the vast majority of older third party games will never be directly sold by their respective publishers again and if the only way to purchase them is secondhand, they're not making any money from those sales anyway so there is quite literally zero harm to their bottom line. Besides, a supreme court ruling which has never been rolled back categorically stated that sharing a copy of something is not theft so all arguments to the contrary are invalid.

[FieryReign]

Let's not forget about them purposefully shortaging those dumb amiibo things, just to get fanboys acting like nutcases. Or the whole NWC debacle.

[The Adventurer]

Let's not forget about them purposefully shortaging those dumb amiibo things, just to get fanboys acting like nutcases. Or the whole NWC debacle.

You mean those things that aren't actually malicious at all? No company creates purposeful shortages when there is money to be made. Nintendo underestimated demand of Amibos worldwide. Period. Nintendo regularly plays it safe with units they distribute because there is so much money to lose if they overestimate demand on X product. Nintendo makes 0 Dollars from eBay flippers, they are not their allies.

[bb_hood]

You mean those things that aren't actually malicious at all? No company creates purposeful shortages when there is money to be made. Nintendo underestimated demand of Amibos worldwide. Period. Nintendo regularly plays it safe with units they distribute because there is so much money to lose if they overestimate demand on X product. Nintendo makes 0 Dollars from eBay flippers, they are not their allies.

Yeah, they did underestimate the demand in the US. Any figure can be had for retail prices in europe and japan.
They are also going to re-release many of the 'harder to find' figures.
Amiibo prices on the 'rarer' figures are slowly dropping as people who hoarded many figures are dumping what they have.

[FieryReign]

You mean those things that aren't actually malicious at all? No company creates purposeful shortages when there is money to be made. Nintendo underestimated demand of Amibos worldwide. Period. Nintendo regularly plays it safe with units they distribute because there is so much money to lose if they overestimate demand on X product. Nintendo makes 0 Dollars from eBay flippers, they are not their allies.

You actually believe that? Fanboys are simply blind and would suck on a Mario-shaped dildo if they released such a thing. Now the demand is there, because they released them in small quantities. And now Nintendo is producing more. You proved my point for me. People will buy them straight from Nintendo where they will make money, instead of scalpers. It was all calculated. Companies have been doing this for years with console launches. Remove the Zelda sunglasses.

[The Adventurer]

You actually believe that?

You mean facts? Absolutely. I'm not a knee jerk conspiracy nutter.

[FieryReign]

Let's dig deeper. Nintendo produces a shoddily made and blatantly faulty console(NES). And continue production on the thing for YEARS knowing the pin connectors were shit. People consider it nostalgia when remembering blowing into their cartridges. It's not. It was their favorite company selling them shit and somehow it turns into fond memories trying to get games to work?

They strongarmed 3rd party companies into making games for them AND ONLY THEM. And only allowed them to produce about 3 games a year, while they could release as much software as they wanted. Thus you had Konami and such making fake companies like Ultra. Seal of Quality, my ass. That's called a monopoly and foul business tactics. They were rightfully taken down for it. It's no wonder they get very little 3rd party support these days.

They effectively pissed off Sony and Phillips, secretly making backdoor deals with both of them. Ruining any hopes, while promising a SNES CD addon that never happened because of their shady business practices. Then when it came to releasing their "project reality" they had nobody to help them with a CD drive. Which was the current future of technology and gamers were already mesmerized by the possibilities. And Sony had already proved with a machine that started out as Nintendo tech. They just stuck their nose up in the air and said fuck it. We'll stick with ancient cartridge technology and go forward with non-existent 3rd party support.

Now they have a portable machine with download capabilities. But when you pay for them, they force you to keep it on a single 3DS. Instead of tying them to an account LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING COMPANY DOES. Asinine.

I don't give a fuck if they produce quality games. Other companies do too. It doesn't hide the fact they've been a notoriously shady company for over 30 years and never apologized for it. They've been giving fans the middle finger all this time, it's time for me to flip my birds up right back at them... fanboys included.

[bb_hood]

So is all this rage because of the rom site thing?
You do realize you can, via torrent download like every nes,famicom,snes,superfamicom game in like 2 files in 15 minutes.. knowing this why would you even deal with rom sites???????
These rom packs have been available for like 10 years now. If you dont already have them downloaded you are a noob. Complaining about rom sites makes you look retarded.

[Peonpiate]

Im not condoning piracy here, but imo Romsites have not been reliable since the early 2000's...Your more likely to get a virus than a legit rom nowadays. Torrent is the way to go for that stuff, and even then there is no reason to get mad at a Company trying to protect its copywritten material.

[ccovell]

Hell hath no fury like a suburban teenager scorned.

[sloan]

..there is no reason to get mad at a Company trying to protect its copywritten material.

Except that 3rd party NES titles are not Nintendo's "copywritten material". Those would belong to companies like Konami, Ultra, Bandai, Capcom, etc.

[The Adventurer]

Except that 3rd party NES titles are not Nintendo's "copywritten material". Those would belong to companies like Konami, Ultra, Bandai, Capcom, etc.

And Nintendo isn't necessarily pulling down those copyrighted claims. They're exclusively pulling their own. The others do get caught in the crossfire when Nintendo goes after emulators themselves, and when their actions shut down an entire ROM site. But Nintendo doesn't have any control other other company IPs. Though I'm sure those companies are happy to see ROM sits getting knocked out without any extra effort.

[Tanooki]

Normally I agree with you, but ehh no (to the original post.) Just because people got used to using and abusing property right son youtube doesn't make it any more right. Sure it's kind of a dick looking move not being consistent with it all along, but it is their right to manage their IP as it is for any of them who either choose to or not. At least they're offering a profit sharing thing on the videos up there instead of just outright pulling them in every case.

I've never heard of nor seen proof of them shutting down emulators on any mobile device, let alone computer based emulators in a good long while. They have better things to do than harass an emulator, as long as it hasn't used copyrighted and protected information to develop it which would then give them the right to do so.

They definitely are desperate with the money they're bleeding out thanks to their arrogance with the WiiU biting them in the ass. I haven't wrote about it in a long stretch, but they were given the choice of having the right specs to get the games the others do this generation, and Nintendo told third parties to collectively eat a dick and use what they have or not....clearly they went with NOT. Nintendo got what they deserved on that one. They definitely are driving people away. I going forward will no longer buy a console of theirs unless it is properly supported. The Wii soured me, and the WiiU they plumped up publicly lying out of their asses that they'd have the games and I fell for that shit as did many others. I now longer own nothing with the Wii name on it and I have no interest in ever again.

I'm not done with them, they're solid on the handheld front and do great work there at least. If you're selling your 3DS stuff off, let me know what you got, maybe I'd take one of your discount dumpster games since you just want to be finished with them.


You're somewhat delusional on how the NES was handled, also misinformed. It was 6 games a year, not 3. They did make them for much of the NES (pre-snes) life only make games for them, and that was a crap stunt. The NES pin connector was not trash, the design was sound. Back when it was the only NIntendo out there, I didn't have to consistently blow in my games to make them work and I put 1000s of hours on that console. TO bitch and moan about a shitty design 20 years after that fact is fucking petty. Nintendo's 8bit era tactics has little to nothing to do with their current situation, so stop trying to conveniently tying that crap to the present. They don't have support because they were offered it and said NO THANKS by making another underpowered system. They were offered games if they brought a system that was up to specs and refused.

Do you have no fucking clue what you're talking about with the Sony and Phillips bit? Do you? Sony fucked Nintendo in the ass on the deal before Nintendo stabbed them in the back going to Philips who couldn't make a system that would properly handle things and buried it. Sony made a shitty contractual deal with them that Nintendo terminated because it stated that Sony would get ALL licensing fees for every game produced for the CD system and Nintendo wouldn't get anything except on their cartidge based stuff. Nintendo basically would have been a brand name on a plastic box with a disc in it that really was a Sony device that they'd get all the money for. Nintendo would create, manufacture, and retail the things at their cost with minimal profit over the cost of parts/retailing it vs MSRP. The money in consoles is the license fees, and Sony stipulated they'd get it all. Philips just made a terrible system that wouldn't do what Nintendo wanted and by that time they just gave up on them and stuck ignorantly with carts. If the CDi is any taste of what their SNES CD would have been, good riddance.

I'm not going to argue with you over their NIntendo Network stuff, they're assholes locking games to any system of theirs (3ds/wiiu) which is why I don't buy games digitally from them unless it's a stupid cheap deal like the current humble bundle. Nintendo has been shady, but to single them out is a laugh. Sony has been MORE shady than Nintendo has been in their 20 year history of making games and if you get beyond games they're even worse if you read up. Microsoft, do we really need to get into their existence being based upon stealing operating systems and apps from Apple, IBM, Corel(Word Perfect), and various others then burying their asses in the grave after the fact? And that doesn't even bring in their shady ass tactics on their own consumers with the xbox and systems since. They're all fairly equally awful, technically MS makes the other two look kind of saint like at times.

[FieryReign]

So is all this rage because of the rom site thing?
You do realize you can, via torrent download like every nes,famicom,snes,superfamicom game in like 2 files in 15 minutes.. knowing this why would you even deal with rom sites???????
These rom packs have been available for like 10 years now. If you dont already have them downloaded you are a noob. Complaining about rom sites makes you look retarded.

Read. I had every rom I ever needed. The history speaks for itself. I'm done wasting words on a company that will be irrelevant in a few years. Besides producing figurines for retarded fanboys and mobile games/emulators for nostalgia tingles. Put the flowers on the grave. I'm just trying to figure out how to sell this 3DS collection.

[The Adventurer]

'm done wasting words on a company that will be irrelevant in a few years.

Microsoft?

[ZeroCool]

Your a kid now! Your a squid now!....sorry I got that lame song in my head. They've pissed me off about the whole amiibo thing. Utter bullshit, I really wanted those Fire Emblem characters

[bb_hood]

They've pissed me off about the whole amiibo thing. Utter bullshit, I really wanted those Fire Emblem characters

Lucina and Robin? I think these two will be obtainable. They actually hit store shelves everywhere tomorrow morning. Or today..morning.
I think nintendo is gonna supply alot more product this wave. They know people want them and they wont just discontinue them. The preorders for lucina and robin sold out super-fast but they arent store exclusives like Ness or Greninja.

[Pikkon]

Nintendo has a net worth of 22.2 billion,so you saying nintendo will be irrelevant in a few years is obviously irrelevant.

It's fun to hear people bitch about there first world problems.

[JSoup]

So I see they're cracking down on rom sites. Removing videos on Youtube of games they didn't even fucking produce. I even hear rumblings of them getting emulators removed from Android/iOS.

I wouldn't worry about this. They've been knocking down ROM sites for the better part of the last 15 years, then caught on around 2007 that it was a loosing battle, and so switched to only attacking sites hosting just released IOS's and WADs. There has been a recent resurgence of DMCA's and such in the last few months, but they'll learn again that it's not a battle they can win. Same goes for mobile emulators, especially now that more and more people are using private installs.

The video thing will be coming to a head eventually, I think. I'm thinking Nintendo might win that battle.

[evildead2099]

So is all this rage because of the rom site thing?
You do realize you can, via torrent download like every nes,famicom,snes,superfamicom game in like 2 files in 15 minutes.. knowing this why would you even deal with rom sites???????
These rom packs have been available for like 10 years now. If you dont already have them downloaded you are a noob. Complaining about rom sites makes you look retarded.

1) Calling him 'retarded' is a very immature thing to do. There is no need to act like a troll and flamebait people.

2) You only chose to focus on his criticism of Nintendo targeting ROM sites and literally failed to acknowledge every other (valid) criticisms he made.

[Tanooki]

It's hit and miss on being valid, more hit if you want to ignore the obvious of singling out Nintendo when the other 2 are equally if not worse guilty parties past and present. If you read the other thread going about finding the magic, it's not even a Nintendo problem, it's a personal one.

[Jorpho]

Let's dig deeper. Nintendo produces a shoddily made and blatantly faulty console(NES). And continue production on the thing for YEARS knowing the pin connectors were shit. People consider it nostalgia when remembering blowing into their cartridges. It's not. It was their favorite company selling them shit and somehow it turns into fond memories trying to get games to work?

They strongarmed 3rd party companies into making games for them AND ONLY THEM. And only allowed them to produce about 3 games a year, while they could release as much software as they wanted. Thus you had Konami and such making fake companies like Ultra. Seal of Quality, my ass. That's called a monopoly and foul business tactics. They were rightfully taken down for it. It's no wonder they get very little 3rd party support these days.

They effectively pissed off Sony and Phillips, secretly making backdoor deals with both of them. Ruining any hopes, while promising a SNES CD addon that never happened because of their shady business practices. Then when it came to releasing their "project reality" they had nobody to help them with a CD drive. Which was the current future of technology and gamers were already mesmerized by the possibilities. And Sony had already proved with a machine that started out as Nintendo tech. They just stuck their nose up in the air and said fuck it. We'll stick with ancient cartridge technology and go forward with non-existent 3rd party support.

Now they have a portable machine with download capabilities. But when you pay for them, they force you to keep it on a single 3DS. Instead of tying them to an account LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING COMPANY DOES. Asinine.

I don't give a fuck if they produce quality games. Other companies do too. It doesn't hide the fact they've been a notoriously shady company for over 30 years and never apologized for it. They've been giving fans the middle finger all this time, it's time for me to flip my birds up right back at them... fanboys included.And yet, knowing all this, you bought a 3DS and an "entire collection" in the first place. Gee.

[Az]

Yeah, they did underestimate the demand in the US. Any figure can be had for retail prices in europe and japan.

Regarding the Amiibo thing, I don't see it as some type of grand conspiracy by Nintendo. They made some products that sold better than they expected....I can't call them a bunch of dicks due to that. They don't make any money when flippers resell them for stupid amounts of cash and nobody I've seen buy them in stores had pistol barrel imprints on their head. If a trinket is flying off the shelf and buyers have more money than sense when dealing with eBay flippers then Nintendo can't be held accountable for poor consumer taste.

[T]

I'm gonna keep buying the Nintendo games I like. (there are many each year)

I really don't care about ROMs and youtube. They have nothing to do with
buying, playing, and enjoying great games.

[bb_hood]

Regarding the Amiibo thing, I don't see it as some type of grand conspiracy by Nintendo. They made some products that sold better than they expected....I can't call them a bunch of dicks due to that. They don't make any money when flippers resell them for stupid amounts of cash and nobody I've seen buy them in stores had pistol barrel imprints on their head. If a trinket is flying off the shelf and buyers have more money than sense when dealing with eBay flippers then Nintendo can't be held accountable for poor consumer taste.

The problem arises when the second person in line at Target buys every wave 4 amiibo they have in stock. Thousands of dollars worth of amiibos going straight to ebay to be resold. That really happened this morning, then the guy who bought them all showed up at Toys-R-Us to buy more. He was second or first in line at Toys-R-Us, but of course Toys-R-Us has a limit of one character per customer. No worries though, I was at Toys-R-Us at 10 and was able to get the 4 I wanted (greninja, Lucina, Robin, and Silver Mario) all for 15$ each.



1) Calling him 'retarded' is a very immature thing to do. There is no need to act like a troll and flamebait people.

2) You only chose to focus on his criticism of Nintendo targeting ROM sites and literally failed to acknowledge every other (valid) criticisms he made.

1. So sue me. I aint the one who started the 'Fuck Nintendo' thread. Talk about immature.
2. I diddnt notice any valid criticisms at all. It just sounded like alot of rage-venting unfairly directed at Nintendo.

[JSoup]

1) Calling him 'retarded' is a very immature thing to do. There is no need to act like a troll and flamebait people.

To be fair, one good turn deserves another. FieryReign has made a pretty big point of conducting himself like an asshole around here since he registered, more active users who see this are more apt to be short. This response isn't exclusive to FieryReign or even this forum.

[SparTonberry]

This thread is ridiculous IMO.
Yelling at Nintendo for shutting down ROM sites. They've been doing that as long as there have been ROM sites. Whatever, they shut down one and five more will pop up. I know of one where the admin even admitted its been shut down multiple times, and yet he keeps going. Its like repro sites, they just move their hosting to countries that don't really care about copyright law.

And then abruptly deciding to boycott Nintendo for stuff they did 20-25 years ago. Is this a joke?

[Rickstilwell1]

Can you even provide an example of a rom site that was shut down for hosting Nintendo roms? They haven't even touched two of the best rom sites that have no download limits. Even a site hosting hacks is still up.

[The Adventurer]

Indeed, all the major ROM sites I've used on and off for nearly 15 years are still right where I left them.

[Flojomojo]

I like Nintendo, and I like buying from them when they offer up old games on Virtual Console.

ROMs aren't exactly hard to find if you really want them.

They're completely within their rights to protect their IP. If you don't like them, you should have no problem ignoring that they exist at all. I guess I hope you feel better after writing sweary rants on video game forums.

[PapaStu]

I'm going to put a buck out on the table and say that this lovely rant thread may have some other ties to personal stuff hitting in your life. That said, being pissed because you can't get roms and videos are being pulled on YouTube is pretty damn petty assuming Nintendo is the sole cause of all your internet woes. Even if they were, they've got a right to protect their IPs. The pure hate doesn't help your cause either.

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