My biggest pickup in seven years collecting

[needler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iny0YFeYmok

[bb_hood]

congrats, welcome back

[RP2A03]

Dude, your like not even trying to hide the fact that you have been and are still presently banned.

[Tanooki]

If he behaves, if he is still banned, who cares. If he acts up again, hit the eject button and don't bother with the parachute. :)

[needler]

The guy who gave me all the complete genesis games in the video is purposing a third trade to me later today where I think he's offering his entire sega saturn collection for trade of my walking dead comic books.

If he has games anything like his sega genesis collection was then I'm sure we will trade. He told me he was a X sega fanboy not sure if he knew the current value of his games or not. So not sure if he was hooking me up with a deal being nice or if he didn't know what he had.

Either way I AM HAPPY.

[Tanooki]

Goddamn dude, definitely. Walking Dead is a flash in the pan, it'll dry up in interest and fall into the cult level of more who don't care than do. Due to how overprinted it is now due to all the zombie buzz I don't see them retaining a lot of value while the Saturn stuff due to all the video game scalping will probably hold up better.

[Nz17]

A banned account is a banned user. No alt. accounts are allowed. Now the "needler" account is joining the "needler420" account in being banned. If you had wanted back onto the message board, you should have PM'd a mod/admin and made your case for reversing the ban. Then it would be up to the mods on whether to allow you back into the fold or not.

[Emperor Megas]

Why was this user banned before? Was he a spammer or scammer or something?

[FieryReign]

Needler420, huh? Sounds like he's into other "hobbies" besides games. My kinda fellow. I like his posting style, I'm curious too.

[Tanooki]

Take FieryReigns attitude that pisses some people off, magnify it quite a bit, add some legitimate trolling (not just raging on Nintendo) and you'll start to get close to why he was shown the door. That or just try and use a site search on his original user name. If the search on here doesn't want to cooperate, google using the site:forum.digitpress.com tag and his name to get more as I think that would work.

[RP2A03]

Why was this user banned before? Was he a spammer or scammer or something?

He was a troll. Either that, or he was into his other "hobbies" a little too much.

Cases in point:



http://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?168345-NES-Reproduction-Ethics
http://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?168446-What-of-rubbing-alcohol-is-best-for-electronics-and-cleaning-games



When he finally got banned:



http://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?157392-Name-a-system-you-have-no-desire-to-play-again&p=1973703&viewfull=1#post1973703



Why you should not let him service any of your stuff



http://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?165689-Needp-advice-and-help-with-changing-batteries-in-games

[FieryReign]

I found the women driving joke to be pretty funny, I got a good chuckle out of it. That must be when there were still women floating around here?

[Aussie2B]

I found the women driving joke to be pretty funny, I got a good chuckle out of it.

Why am I not surprised?

Also *waves* hello, we're still here, and we're still not in the mood to put up with any childish bullshit. With all the offensive things you've posted in your history here, somebody please explain why you're not hanging out with Needler right now.

[Niku-Sama]

This isn't a thread for who should join who. So none off that

Wasn't this the guy that pissed wiggy off. Which reminds me i want my wiggy back.
Wiggy did cool shit, i just wish the game boy shells were in stock. I have some I. desperate need of them

[Aussie2B]

Well, it shouldn't be a thread for defending the sexist comment that got a user banned either, should it? If it's enough to get somebody banned, then surely showing appreciation for the comment isn't welcome around here either, I would assume.

Or has this board gotten so desperate for members that even sexist, homophobic trolls get a free pass?

[sfchakan]

... That comment was really what got him banned?

It's sexist, but for fuck's sake, this forum and site has seen much worse in it's time.

[FieryReign]

Why am I not surprised?

Also *waves* hello, we're still here, and we're still not in the mood to put up with any childish bullshit. With all the offensive things you've posted in your history here, somebody please explain why you're not hanging out with Needler right now.

You're hilarious. Unless you work for Nintendo I don't post offensive things. I post what's on my mind, don't sugarcoat shit, and I post as if you were standing directly in front of my face. Grab a pair of reading glasses while you're at it. I don't defend people, they can defend themselves.

Step down from your high horse. And don't put words in my mouth either. You're the only one posting offensively by calling me names. Go back to lurking, at least I tried starting discussions. Randomly banning me for finding a comment funny isn't going to do anything but make you feel like you accomplished something, your life must be more pathetic than my own. Someone else laughed at it in that thread too, did you ban him? No back-peddling from me neither.

[Emperor Megas]

I can't lie, I thought the 'teaching a woman to drive' comment was funny as hell. I didn't think something like that would be a banning offense here, though. That's like playground level ribbing, really mild stuff. It's not like he was being antisemitic, or dropping N-bombs or anything.

That whole thread about soldering the batteries was also hilarious. People couldn't have taken it seriously.

[Niku-Sama]

Well, it shouldn't be a thread for defending the sexist comment that got a user banned either, should it? If it's enough to get somebody banned, then surely showing appreciation for the comment isn't welcome around here either, I would assume.

Or has this board gotten so desperate for members that even sexist, homophobic trolls get a free pass?

not getting dragged into your crap, nor was I defending or promoting what ever said "comment" was. I was just stating a fact that here and now is not the time to be playing the blame game.
if you got a problem, report it or pm the person.

speaking of I am waiting for the lock

[RP2A03]

What hath my post wrought?





I can't lie, I thought the 'teaching a woman to drive' comment was funny as hell.

I found it funny because of its irony; however, as far as I can tell he sounded like he meant it. This, combined with all his other shit is was got him banned.



That whole thread about soldering the batteries was also hilarious. People couldn't have taken it seriously.

With the internet you can never really be sure, especially when the person has 420 in his name.

[Daria]

Oh hey it's that guy that kept hitting on me. Bye again!

[Aussie2B]

I can't lie, I thought the 'teaching a woman to drive' comment was funny as hell. I didn't think something like that would be a banning offense here, though. That's like playground level ribbing, really mild stuff. It's not like he was being antisemitic, or dropping N-bombs or anything.

So it would be bad if it was "teaching a Jew to drive" but sexism is just playful "ribbing". Gotcha.


not getting dragged into your crap, nor was I defending or promoting what ever said "comment" was. I was just stating a fact that here and now is not the time to be playing the blame game.
if you got a problem, report it or pm the person.

speaking of I am waiting for the lock

I'm sorry if I gave the impression, but I wasn't claiming that you were promoting or defending anything. I was saying that FieryReign was.

[Emperor Megas]

So it would be bad if it was "teaching a Jew to drive" but sexism is just playful "ribbing". Gotcha.No, that would be kosher as well (no pun intended), but it would be far less funny since there's no stereotype about Jews being bad drivers (that I'm aware of). Now if he said something like "trying to use the N64 controller for the first time is like trying to wrestle a nickle from a k*ke" or something ugly like that, that's crossing the line IMO and is borderline hate speech. Gender jokes like 'women being bad drivers' and 'men being pigs' is lighthearted water cooler smack talk though.

...or maybe I'm just a 40 year old trog and completely out of touch.

[Aussie2B]

Bigoted speech is bigoted speech. Just because the tone is softer than it could be doesn't mean it ceases to be bigoted. What if it was "teaching an Asian to drive"? In that case, there are racist stereotypes about Asian drivers. Would you say that is okay? Because I sure as hell bet there are Asian members on this board who wouldn't appreciate reading that.

Water cooler bigotry is a relic of the past (that sadly still happens, though), and the only people who find it "lighthearted" and funny are typically the ones who aren't the butts of the jokes. But those in minority positions in the workplace are generally taught to play it off, to act like they're enjoying it, to put on a fake smile or force out a fake laugh, because if you don't, if you complain, then you're "difficult" and "not a team player".

[bb_hood]

The problem with these stereotype-based jokes is that they lead to heated, pointless arguments.
Everyone should just forget it.

[Gameguy]

If you had wanted back onto the message board, you should have PM'd a mod/admin and made your case for reversing the ban. Then it would be up to the mods on whether to allow you back into the fold or not.
I wasn't aware that banned accounts could still send PMs, I learned something new.


Even after he's banned again he's still stirring shit up, without even posting anything offensive in this thread. It takes a master for this.

[Emperor Megas]

Bigoted speech is bigoted speech. Just because the tone is softer than it could be doesn't mean it ceases to be bigoted. What if it was "teaching an Asian to drive"? In that case, there are racist stereotypes about Asian drivers. Would you say that is okay? Because I sure as hell bet there are Asian members on this board who wouldn't appreciate reading that.

Water cooler bigotry is a relic of the past (that sadly still happens, though), and the only people who find it "lighthearted" and funny are typically the ones who aren't the butts of the jokes.

"Water cooler bigotry"? I didn't say anything about that. I said water cooler smack talk. I don't get the over-the-top reactions to the mildest jab these days. There are so many social justice warriors now who take extreme offense at the slightest mention of any barb targeted at anyone besides cisgender white males, no matter how lighthearted. As for equating Asians with women in the driving joke, you can do that is you want I suppose, but the reality is gender jabs don't carry the same weight and controversy as racial ones. I certainly didn't make it that way, it's just the way it is. Perhaps it's changing though, I don't know. Regardless it's extreme to accuse someone of being a bigot based on a humorous stab that was meant in jest.

If simply making a joke about women drivers makes someone a bigot, every sitcom ever made in the history of life is a vile, hate spewing piece of propaganda. But people don't REALLY think that, do that?


But those in minority positions in the workplace are generally taught to play it off, to act like they're enjoying it, to put on a fake smile or force out a fake laugh, because if you don't, if you complain, then you're "difficult" and "not a team player".I'm a black man from the American South and most of my peers from back home are the same, and among them I don't know any who don't or wouldn't speak up if and when someone says something offensive and inappropriate in the workplace. Likewise, I don't think I know any minorities personally who don't know the difference between light-heated humor and actual bigotry, but that's just my circle.

I'm not going to crusade against political correctness since I really only like to talk about video games here, but I hope you can appreciate that not every joke about gender (or race, or age, or nationality) is bigotry, and not everyone who makes cracks about gender or race are bigots.

[retroguy]

I'm a black man from the American South and most of my peers from back home are the same.

Simply put, I don't believe you. The crack about "social justice warriors" puts you firmly in the camp of people who think casual bigotry ought to be acceptable and are whining that it no longer is. No self respecting black person I've ever met would be in that group. That leads me to believe you are either trying to deflect criticism by claiming to be part of an oppressed minority knowing that no one here can disprove such, or else you actually are and after years of living in a place where bigotry is a part of everyday life, you have managed to somehow convince yourself that bigotry is okay, even going so far as to defend those who would just as casually make cracks about you behind your back. So which is it?

[kai123]

Can we get a lock on this thread? It has nothing to do with Classic Gaming, or move it to Off Topic please.

[wizardofwor1975]

The problem with these stereotype-based jokes is that they lead to heated, pointless arguments.
Everyone should just forget it.

They certainly can. Nice call.

[Emperor Megas]

Simply put, I don't believe you. The crack about "social justice warriors" puts you firmly in the camp of people who think casual bigotry ought to be acceptable and are whining that it no longer is. No self respecting black person I've ever met would be in that group. That leads me to believe you are either trying to deflect criticism by claiming to be part of an oppressed minority knowing that no one here can disprove such, or else you actually are and after years of living in a place where bigotry is a part of everyday life, you have managed to somehow convince yourself that bigotry is okay, even going so far as to defend those who would just as casually make cracks about you behind your back. So which is it?It's troubling that we're to a point where someone is accused of being something they're not because they don't fit someone esle's idea what and how they 'should' think, act, and feel based on their colour, and it's also ironic that a challenge to stereotyping in jest is met with ACTUAL stereotyping. What you're saying isn't far off from 'I'm not a black man because I don't eat fried chicken and watermelon' (which I don't, since I'm a vegetarian and hate fruit...but that's neither here nor there).

I'll grant you that you're genuine in your impassioned reply and not just trolling, respectfully, but I assure that I'm not in any camp that thinks casual bigotry ought to be tolerated. I'm in the camp who knows that someone making a silly, vanilla joke like "men are pigs", or "women can't drive as well as men" doesn't in itself qualify as bigotry. If you want to talk about bigotry, REAL bigotry, we can talk about blacks getting executed by cops on the news every week like it's open reason, or Islamophobia still running rampant from people who turn a blind eye to Christian extremists, or gay Americans being denied the same rights as straight Americans and the people who give that stuff a pass (which I don't as I'm actually an uber-liberal).

This foolishness of equating a vanilla joke ripped from virtually ANY WHOLESOME FAMILY SITCOM that's ever aired o American television, to the acts and thoughts of someone who genuinely spews REAL hatred is just silly to me.

Look, say what you will, but the bottom line here is that some of you are making a mountain out of an anthill. Some of you didn't like the guy's joke, fine. I can appreciate that, truly. But to say that it makes someone a "bigot" to make such a joke, or simply to find it funny, is just plain extreme and is political correctness run amuck, and you don't have to be a white, Western, cisgendered Christian male to realize it. You can be as black as (you don't believe) I am, as female as my mother, or as gay as a Log Cabin Republican and STILL feel that way.

I've never been involved in any sort of discussion like this at Digital Press, and honestly, it's really not something I enjoy (here). I just like to talk about video games. I respect your thoughts and the thoughts of others who have chimed in as well, and would appreciate if you could respect mine, too, and give me the benefit of the doubt when I say that I'm genuine. I'm not trolling, and I'm not a trog (I don't think I am, anyway). I don't want to 'win' an argument, or to bash women, or spout misogynistic rhetoric -- I just want to express my thoughts and to understand where others are coming from, that's it.

I apologize for any feathers getting ruffled. I don't claim to be the most articulate but I try to be fair and respectful.

[Tanooki]

Well said and then some Megas. Don't be put in a box due to that social justice warrior blow back. This topic got horribly side tracked with PC crap, and that in itself not just here but in general needs to stop.

[bb_hood]

This topic got horribly side tracked with PC crap,

I see no mention of pc-engine at all in the entire thread. What you talkin bout willis?

[Guru of Time and Space]

Complaining about "Political Correctness" is the boogie man for people who see treating others with the respect and dignity that they'd want to be a great inconvenience.

Also, just because a form of bigotry (in this case, bigotry towards those that identify as women) is more socially acceptable than another form of bigotry doesn't make it not bigotry. If you're dissing the sisters you ain't fighting the power.

-GoTaS

[retroguy]

Complaining about "Political Correctness" is the boogie man for people who see treating others with the respect and dignity that they'd want to be a great inconvenience.

Also, just because a form of bigotry (in this case, bigotry towards those that identify as women) is more socially acceptable than another form of bigotry doesn't make it not bigotry. If you're dissing the sisters you ain't fighting the power.

-GoTaS

This.

Virtual fist bump!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaRcYQoLd9c

[sfchakan]

Where is the lock, btw? I think it should have been enforced once needle was banned (again).

Well said, Magus. Some people have very cushy lives and make mountains out of ant hills.

[mercuryshadow09]

With the internet you can never really be sure, especially when the person has 420 in his name.


Is alcohol treated the same around here? I'm just curious because marijuana is legal in some states and some people are prescribed for medical reasons, it's really kind of offensive the stance people take against people for the mere mention of it, that guy got banned for a sexist comment but this comment is really not much different!

[mercuryshadow09]

It's troubling that we're to a point where someone is accused of being something they're not because they don't fit someone esle's idea what and how they 'should' think, act, and feel based on their colour, and it's also ironic that a challenge to stereotyping in jest is met with ACTUAL stereotyping. What you're saying isn't far off from 'I'm not a black man because I don't eat fried chicken and watermelon' (which I don't, since I'm a vegetarian and hate fruit...but that's neither here nor there).


I suspect that Retroguy might be right about you considering we spell it as C-O-L-O-R.

Edit: Ha ha didn't realize this was the thread I just posted in, could a mod possibly fix my oops here?

[sfchakan]

Why does it matter what race, gender, or sexual orientation Megas is if his points are still valid?

[Emperor Megas]

Complaining about "Political Correctness" is the boogie man for people who see treating others with the respect and dignity that they'd want to be a great inconvenience.Until one takes off the binary glasses and realize that there are DEGREES and NUANCE in the real world. It's not all black and white, 1s and 0s. Complaining about "political correctness" (period) and complaining about "political correctness run amuck" are not the same thing. It's disingenuous and a disservice to productive conversation and honest discourse to pretend that everything is either 'all' or 'nothing'.

[Emperor Megas]

Why does it matter what race, gender, or sexual orientation Megas is if his points are still valid?I don't know whose point your talking about. This conversation has a lot of participants, and not everyone has the same angle or motivations.

Oops, nevermind, I thought you were asking ME what different does those things make. I stayed up all night playing Uncharted. I'm half out of it. :p

[mercuryshadow09]

Why does it matter what race, gender, or sexual orientation Megas is if his points are still valid?

It doesn't but when somebody takes a moral stance while lying....I think you know where I'm going! Megas claims to be an American black man from the south but we don't spell it colour like they do in the UK! I have no dog in this fight, just pointing out a discrepancy!

[sfchakan]

What if he just likes that spelling of the word?

I've adopted some UK-originated terms over the years into my casual vocabulary. What's to say he doesn't find that spelling more appealing?

[Emperor Megas]

It doesn't but when somebody takes a moral stance while lying....I think you know where I'm going! Megas claims to be an American black man from the south but we don't spell it colour like they do in the UK! I have no dog in this fight, just pointing out a discrepancy!I also spell theater 'theatre', and armor 'armour' too. I always have. FWIW, I'm from New Orleans, born and raised. I've talked about losing most of my original game collection in Katrina several times.

[Daria]

It doesn't but when somebody takes a moral stance while lying....I think you know where I'm going! Megas claims to be an American black man from the south but we don't spell it colour like they do in the UK! I have no dog in this fight, just pointing out a discrepancy!

What just because he's southern black he can't be well-read, or educated else-where, or have had a British influence in his life?

[mercuryshadow09]

What if he just likes that spelling of the word?

I've adopted some UK-originated terms over the years into my casual vocabulary. What's to say he doesn't find that spelling more appealing?

Like I said, discrepancy! Maybe he should put his ducks in a row so he doesn't get called out for lying? You know, because like what, 99.999% of what people claim on the webz is true?

[sfchakan]

Yeah, come on, Megas, growing up on RPGs and nerd culture using Olde English could have in no way shaped your use of the language.

Obviously, you're lying. Black people don't talk like that.

edit: I'm leaving my inadvertent pun in.

[Emperor Megas]

Like I said, discrepancy! Maybe he should put his ducks in a row so he doesn't get called out for lying? You know, because like what, 99.999% of what people claim on the webz is true?I know this topic has pretty much dissolved into drama, but I understand where mercury is coming from since, you know...'the Internet'. It's probably silly, but I always opted from the euro-centric spelling of words. I never thought that it was something that was work against me in a discussion about tolerance and bigotry though.:|

[mercuryshadow09]

Like I said, I have no dog in this fight but find it hard to believe somebodies moral stance when their syntax doesn't match the claim! And it's funny that I'mm 44 years old, grew up in the US and yet have never learned this Olde Englsh, where do they teach this, in the south?


I know this topic has pretty much dissolved into drama, but I understand where mercury is coming from since, you know...'the Internet'. It's probably silly, but I always opted from the euro-centric spelling of words. I never thought that it was something that was work against me in a discussion about tolerance and bigotry though.:|

Understand though I'm not in any way calling you a liar, I actually agree with everything you've said here so far!

[RP2A03]

Is alcohol treated the same around here? I'm just curious because marijuana is legal in some states and some people are prescribed for medical reasons, it's really kind of offensive the stance people take against people for the mere mention of it, that guy got banned for a sexist comment but this comment is really not much different!

To be clear, I don't care if someone partakes in drugs recreationally; it is none of my concern as long as they don't cause harm to others. I made that comment because needler is a stoner and when you are stoned you are prone to do stupid things like think it is a good idea to solder batteries even after being told multiple times why that is a really bad idea.

[mercuryshadow09]

when you are stoned you are prone to do stupid things


This is pretty offensive as well, but I digress!

[RP2A03]

This is pretty offensive as well, but I digress!

Are you suggesting that being stoned does not impair ones judgment?

[mercuryshadow09]

Are you suggesting that being stoned does not impair ones judgment?

Not at all, what I am suggesting is that when people use in moderation there shouldn't be a problem, there is a big difference between having a couple of drinks socially and getting completely wasted, same with anything, just because somebody gets "stoned" doesn't men they are an addict or can't function and will harm or maim or kill themselves!

[Emperor Megas]

Like I said, I have no dog in this fight but find it hard to believe somebodies moral stance when their syntax doesn't match the claim!I'll speak in ebonics when it serves the discussion from here on out. ;)


And it's funny that I'mm 44 years old, grew up in the US and yet have never learned this Olde Englsh, where do they teach this, in the south English/British spellings are used and found a lot stateside in literature and popular culture. They're also in the same Webster's dictionaries you had growing up right next to the American version. And while it wasn't a South thing, we had to learn French alongside English in New Orleans when I was a kid. It wasn't even an elective, it was required. It's not anymore now though.

[Tupin]

What does all of this have to do with video games, exactly? Shouldn't OP be banned and the thread closed, end of story?

[mercuryshadow09]

Shouldn't ... the thread closed, end of story?

Yeah probably so.

[Emperor Megas]

Meh, it's been a slow year for posting. At least we're talking about something here.

[RP2A03]

Not at all, what I am suggesting is that when people use in moderation there shouldn't be a problem, there is a big difference between having a couple of drinks socially and getting completely wasted, same with anything, just because somebody gets "stoned" doesn't men they are an addict or can't function and will harm or maim or kill themselves!

I don't think you understand what I was saying. I will attempt to clarify:



Needler is a stoner.
Being stoned impairs one's judgment.
Despite being told it was really bad idea, needler remained insistent on soldering batteries.



This leads to three possibilities:



Needler was stoned, and thus mentally impaired, during the course of the battery soldering thread.
Needler is just plain stupid.
Needler was not actually serious.


For his sake, I hope it is not the second possibility and choose to rule it out for now. This leaves use with possibilities one and three, and since we know him to be a stoner; I consider the first possibility to be the most likely.


Additionally, I never said that those who toke are addicts, can't function; or will harm, maim, or kill themselves.





What does all of this have to do with video games, exactly? Shouldn't OP be banned and the thread closed, end of story?

Or moved to Off Topic. This is the liveliest thread we've had in a long time!

[mercuryshadow09]

I don't think you understand what I was saying. I will attempt to clarify:



Needler is a stoner.
Being stoned impairs one's judgment.
Despite being told it was really bad idea, needler remained insistent on soldering batteries.



This leads to three possibilities:



Needler was stoned, and thus mentally impaired, during the course of the battery soldering thread.
Needler is just plain stupid.
Needler was not actually serious.


For his sake, I hope it is not the second possibility and choose to rule it out for now. This leaves use with possibilities one and three, and since we know him to be a stoner; I consider the first possibility to be the most likely.


Additionally, I never said that those who toke are addicts, can't function; or will harm, maim, or kill themselves.






Or moved to Off Topic. This is the liveliest thread we've had in a long time!

*facepalm* One offensive comment after the other, so people who use marijuana are mentally impaired? Listen I can agree with you on the stupidity, but to say the stupidity came from marijuana is just plain ignorant, I have been on medical marijuana since 2007, I work and think and function just fine everyday of my life, in fact most of my job requires the use of power saws and other power tools, you know how many accidents I've had? Not one!


Meh, it's been a slow year for posting. At least we're talking about something here.

And it's civil.

[Nz17]

It's locking time. This thread should have been closed hours ago or more, but the few other mods and I were busy with our lives outside of the forum.

Needler420 wasn't banned due to one comment. He was banned due to his many irrelevant/irreverent posts. His final post was just "the straw that broke the camel's back." And his newest account was banned for breaking the rule about alternative accounts and because he had already been banned.

As to the rest of the thread, we all have our own preferences, biases, and prejudices, but that doesn't mean we have to share them. And should we share them, that doesn't mean other people have to agree with them nor even listen to them. So sometimes, it is better to keep them to ourselves rather than say them or write them. After all, discretion is the better part of valor.

If we are to have a productive, active forum with lots of posts about this place's chosen topic (collecting and playing classic games), then we need this forum to be a place where everyone feels comfortable sharing their relevant thoughts on the topic. So play nice and play on.

*thread over*