Mega Man Legacy Collection (PlayStation 4, XBOX One, Windows, 3DS)

[sfchakan]

Sound issues were fine with fan-made emulators back in the 90s.

In an officially licensed product you're charging for long after free fan-made emulators were released that do it better? Shameful.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Okay, I've got my video done for the sound issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XWGV4YINGs

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I've finally finished my exhaustive review of Mega Man Legacy Collection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAelRWDWAdw

[sfchakan]

I don't take too kindly to people defending this cashgrab, but at the same time, a bullshit review (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mega-man-legacy-collection-review/1900-6416229/) is a bullshit review. GameSpot's Don Sass deserves to be publicly shamed for this horseshit.

[bb_hood]

Okay, I've got my video done for the sound issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XWGV4YINGs

Why was Action 52 in the pile of 'favorite NES games'? Was that supposed to be a joke?

[Tanooki]

Wait Gamespot does cash grab?! You don't say. Kane and Lynch wave hi-zies! (as does Gerstmann from the unemployment line for honesty.) Capcom knows they have a f'd up emulator emulating another engine to run the game on the various systems and you need a AAA media sell out to help deflect some of the honest complaining going on in and outside of review sites.

I've never heard of the complaining about MM4 being bad because it wasn't on SNES. Seems like crybaby behavior of the period, or later era complainers of now just looking at dates. It makes a LOT of sense for 4 and 5 to be on the NES as they had a solid usable engine and with those years next to no system sales yet on the SNES while the NES was still kicking some ass despite gains by the Genesis. The only one that surprised me was MM6, even Capcom USA decided to be jerks about that and tried to kill it but NOA wouldn't have it. I wish NOA still had those testicles now given the A games they throw under the bus or halfass release digitally to minimal sales.

I think complaining about the Japanese MM rereleases on the PS1 is fairly petty whoever does the review. I get the mental track on going there, but it still is petty. Digs at the emulation, now that 100% I could get into, and even perhaps tweaking the emulator like some on PC do that will get rid of the flicker/sprite drop out issues of the NES would have been wise too. Those Complete Works are on an entirely different tier. Those were physical releases, and it would have been some HUGE balls even in Japan to charge a full price game there to just have a cute menu and the old 8bit game. Clearly they'd throw everything they could in there seeing they had to justify the price since they didn't take the easy route and put all the games on one disc, but they did 6 instead. This modern collection is all on one download, card(3ds), or disc (sony/ms) when they're all released and done between now and winter.

Sad truth is I'm hooked. I'll buy this despite owning the carts still just because I'd like a physical version of it for my 3DS so Winter I shall wait for. Given the bitching online and the added months to refine the game, I feel that unless Capcom really does live up to its perceived don't give a crap behavior, the bugs in all versions digital and not will be ironed out by the time the 3ds cards and discs are printed as that would be a real mess.

...and if someone wants to gift me it on steam I'm more than willing to try these bugs out (tanooki_suit) and yeah I know original.

[Leo_A]

Reviews like that just come with the territory. The mainstream press and reviews for classic compilations rarely has made for a good combination.

And GameStop also has a reputation for wanting to be different. If they know they're "supposed" to like something, they like to do the exact opposite from time to time just to stir the fanboys up and boost their traffic.


Given the bitching online and the added months to refine the game, I feel that unless Capcom really does live up to its perceived don't give a crap behavior, the bugs in all versions digital and not will be ironed out by the time the 3ds cards and discs are printed as that would be a real mess.


I don't think there's much worry that they won't fix this. It largely works fine and just needs a bit of a tuneup.

Going to be pretty shameful if they let these audio irregularities stand though...


I've never heard of the complaining about MM4 being bad because it wasn't on SNES.

I imagine its biggest sales impediment is the usual issue when an excellent but late release occurs. So much of your customer base has moved on and is preoccupied with looking forward, that it's all but ignored and inadvertently falls through the cracks despite not deserving such a fate.

Mega Man 4 couldn't of done too badly though, as evidenced by two more follow-ups appearing here for the Famicom/NES (Although Europe missed out on the final game and it took Nintendo of America to get it published here; Something that could never happen with today's NOA...).


I think complaining about the Japanese MM rereleases on the PS1 is fairly petty whoever does the review.

While I think that it's much more important to him than for Capcom's average prospective customer here, I still think it's valid to point it out. Despite everything that's well done here (And it sure seems to be fine beyond an audio quirk that almost certainly will be patched out and a few minor nitpicks like a single song that's oddly absent in the music player), it's still a step backwards in some areas.

I don't see the harm in defending this since it's focused on what's arguably Mega Man's finest hour and does justice to it. But I equally don't see the harm in pointing out that it's far from the definitive package one might've hoped after those PS1 rereleases, Mega Man Anniversary Collection and the creation of Mega Man 9 & 10 a half decade or so ago.

Would've been nice to see something that except for the purists, could've made everything obsolete and included all the main entries in the main Mega Man franchise (Including the Game Boy classics and if we're really dreaming, a port of the PSP remake).

[sfchakan]

Tanooki, go read that review I linked.

[Tanooki]

I did read it, my part of the post to start was sarcasm. GS still sucks. That reviewer was a mega man noob and was crying about some petty junk and overlooked the bug issues in the game too that others have been pointing out.


I see we agree on MM though Leo, more could have been done like the full line of numbered games including gameboy, but for what is there and that price its good and I dont really think needs to be dumped on for it when there are clearly problems that do need to be nitpicked and hung over capcom until theyre fixed.

[bb_hood]

I dont see what the big deal about this is. This aint the first time the mega man games have been re-released and it certainly wont be the last.
If you want to call it a 'cash grab' I guess thats fair but these game companies have been doing it forever. I dont see the point in getting upset or even dissecting the game to such an extent. Its just 6 emulated nes games. Why would anyone expect this collection to be better than playing the original NES carts?

Capcom could have made something great here by simply editing the level designs making some kind of offical hack but no, just the original 6 mega man games. It just seems kinda boring.. like re-releasing Sonic or Super Mario bros. as downloads again.

And yeah that article is really stupid. The writer must have gotten paid or something

[theclaw]

I dont see what the big deal about this is. This aint the first time the mega man games have been re-released and it certainly wont be the last.
If you want to call it a 'cash grab' I guess thats fair but these game companies have been doing it forever. I dont see the point in getting upset or even dissecting the game to such an extent. Its just 6 emulated nes games. Why would anyone expect this collection to be better than playing the original NES carts?

Capcom could have made something great here by simply editing the level designs making some kind of offical hack but no, just the original 6 mega man games. It just seems kinda boring.. like re-releasing Sonic or Super Mario bros. as downloads again.

And yeah that article is really stupid. The writer must have gotten paid or something

If you ask me, troll logic is at play here. They want to downplay the actual facts. Such as:
People whose sole gaming devices are PS4 or Xbox One, can't play any previous collections.
Anniversary Collection never released for PAL users
That rom files can and have been used for purposes other than emulating them

Not to mention insisting this is conventional emulation despite what the developers said, then painting them as dishonest.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Why was Action 52 in the pile of 'favorite NES games'? Was that supposed to be a joke?

I'm glad someone caught that in-joke. It's a reference to this article I wrote on the top 100 Famicom/NES games of all time.

https://satoshimatrix.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/top-100-nesfamicom-games-list-1/




I've never heard of the complaining about MM4 being bad because it wasn't on SNES. Seems like crybaby behavior of the period, or later era complainers of now just looking at dates. It makes a LOT of sense for 4 and 5 to be on the NES as they had a solid usable engine and with those years next to no system sales yet on the SNES while the NES was still kicking some ass despite gains by the Genesis. The only one that surprised me was MM6, even Capcom USA decided to be jerks about that and tried to kill it but NOA wouldn't have it. I wish NOA still had those testicles now given the A games they throw under the bus or halfass release digitally to minimal sales.


Magazines, the internet, even people like Jeremy Parish have mentioned it. I'm not saying that I believe any of that, but the fact that 4-6 were NES games is a big reason a lot of people think of the game as not being worth playing. Which is simply wrong.




I think complaining about the Japanese MM rereleases on the PS1 is fairly petty whoever does the review. I get the mental track on going there, but it still is petty.

Not complaining about the Japanese PS1 set, complaiming how Legacy Collection is inferior to the Japanese PS1 set. That collection was and is simply better than the Legacy Collection for numerous reasons, not least of which is the fact that they provide superior emulation, optional means of enhancing the games, and tons of bonus extra features the Legacy Collection mostly lacks.




Digs at the emulation, now that 100% I could get into, and even perhaps tweaking the emulator like some on PC do that will get rid of the flicker/sprite drop out issues of the NES would have been wise too. Those Complete Works are on an entirely different tier. Those were physical releases, and it would have been some HUGE balls even in Japan to charge a full price game there to just have a cute menu and the old 8bit game. Clearly they'd throw everything they could in there seeing they had to justify the price since they didn't take the easy route and put all the games on one disc, but they did 6 instead. This modern collection is all on one download, card(3ds), or disc (sony/ms) when they're all released and done between now and winter.

Capcom has the source code for the Rockman Complete Works on file. They could've simply ported their previous work, did a minimal amount of work required to create a new interface and translation for the menus and called it a day. They could have done less work by recycling their old material and it would have offered more and better results.




Sad truth is I'm hooked. I'll buy this despite owning the carts still just because I'd like a physical version of it for my 3DS so Winter I shall wait for. Given the bitching online and the added months to refine the game, I feel that unless Capcom really does live up to its perceived don't give a crap behavior, the bugs in all versions digital and not will be ironed out by the time the 3ds cards and discs are printed as that would be a real mess.

...and if someone wants to gift me it on steam I'm more than willing to try these bugs out (tanooki_suit) and yeah I know original.

I should also mention that I wasn't given a download code by Capcom or any outlet. I paid for this collection myself. This, despite the fact that I own the original games for NES, Famicom, Genesis, PS1, PS2, Xbox GameCube and PS3 previously. This is the ninth time I've bought these games. The challege mode is cool and I like Megaman so much I'm willing to have even an inferior collection on my PS4. My assesstment isn't that the collection is bad, it's just disappointing. It could've been so much better had Capcom just re-used their work from 16 years ago rather than hand it off to Digital Eclipse to start fresh.

[Nz17]

Does anyone know if these problems are present in the Steam Windows PC version?

[Tanooki]

Ahhh multiquote... I don't hold much interest in any online reviewer or so called expert (like Parish) when it comes to this stuff. I go by what I know, my experiences, and others I've known with a game when I want to dig into it. Other than I've heard some wonder why MM never hit the SNES earlier, and I did agree by the time MM6 dropped, I never heard of them being hated which is so childish. The only magazines I had experience with in that era was NP and off and on EGM which loved to make up crap about Nintendo so I ignored it best I could since they sucked up to Sega, then Sony when they bought the favor.

The legacy collection here I'm not sure what to make of it. I know what Digital Eclipse is doing with the games, so it's hard to say if it's converted or double emulated. It's just weird. You can an original game, and then you run it through this tool to make it become a game for that tool. Then you take the retooled game and run it through yet another tool (or emulator?) which then allows the game to run on whatever hardware they like. It's confusing.

I have no idea if that's true or not with the collection you said and the source, but if you're correct, then I think the truth of it here is Capcom may have had little to no interest in the project at all. Perhaps it was all Code Monkeys/Digital Eclipse that approached Capcom to use that conversion tool and then throw those basics at it just to get it out there as a cash grab. There's some probability to that especially considering it wasn't even going to be physical to start, then the demand for it got it made, many months later, and now we're seeing this guinea pig beta test mess now with the bad audio and things.

I think they need to fix the bugs but it's a great collection for what it is and at that price. Sure they could have and maybe should have put the 7-8 (if not 9+10) and the 2 arcade titles like the Gamecube had on there, but I think they were going for a budget package and Capcom greedily probably figured with MM9+10 still for sale and the others they'd probably have to up it to $50 or more and catch crap from reviewers and arm chair online fanboys giving them crap for that instead.

I don't have it, I'd like to on PC, but I can not justify buying it twice since I'll get it on 3DS. I put it on my Steam wishlist and flashed it on facebook to family as a non-subtle hint as I NEVER did this before ever, but I have to admit I'm curious and motivated. Truth be told I owned 2-5 as a kid/teen, but 1 I got a couple years later used at a local shop, 6 too, and I've NEVER finished 6. Not really sure why but I have not.

[sfchakan]

Parish fancies himself a gaming historian but needs to hit the books for a few more years. His knowledge of many, many, many things outside of his comfort zone is severely lacking.

Re: Dgitial Eclipse doing something interest with ROMs as source files.

That's really neat for a fan project or an experiment.

They should still deliver a higher quality product if they want people to pay for it.

Nz17: The best part is that if it's not to your liking on Steam, you can just get a refund. Give it a shot, I guess?

[FieryReign]

Who is Parish?

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Does anyone know if these problems are present in the Steam Windows PC version?

The audio problems don't appear to occur on the PC version, but the video is washed out, and it is extremely fussy about controller inputs. Many generic HID controllers simply won't be recognized by the game. Compatibility is shot to hell.


Who is Parish?

Jeremy Parish. Gaming Journalist. Former host of the excellent Retronauts podcast. Dude knows his stuff and carries usually the correct opinions on stuff. Respectable guy. ALthough there are times when I am directly at odds with the conclusions he reaches. This is one of them.

[Leo_A]

Does anyone know if these problems are present in the Steam Windows PC version?

Similar audio issues are also present in the PC version.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCcQUB1X-iQ

Doesn't look washed out to me, but maybe you have to do a side-by-side comparison to really see it.

[Nz17]

Source: http://www.rockman-corner.com/2015/08/mega-man-legacy-collection-fixes-are.html


Capcom USA's Ray Jimenez sounds off on the Steam forums:

Hi all,

First off, I would like to apologize on behalf of Capcom and Digital Eclipse on the issues that some of you are having with Mega Man Legacy Collection. Both Capcom and Digital Eclipse have been watching the forums and are aware of the issues that are going on. We are currently collating data and in the process of coming up with fixes. The team at Digital Eclipse are extremely hard working, but they are a small indie team and it will take a while for fixes to be made and sent through QA.

So, please bear with us. I hope some of the work arounds your fellow Steam users have found can help for now, but we strive to have these fixed naturally. Please check in on this thread from time to time as I’ll use it to update you on our timeline and what fixes are going up.

***

The game's producer, Frank Cifaldi, adds [on Twitter]:

Hey, MMLC players: We're monitoring threads and are aware of issues. As Capcom says, fixes are coming. I can't get more specific than that.

@Omaewamo there are two separate audio issues, the crackly distortion is mostly exclusive to ps4. we suspect the popping is related too.

@Omaewamo the incorrect notes are exclusive to xbox one and pc, and we have a fix already

@Omaewamo yep, that specific issue has to do with the particular way ps4 handles audio vs. microsoft.

[Tanooki]

Well at least they're on it, but at the same time vague enough you're looking at least at probably nearly a month for a fix to be submitted for acceptance if not baking in a queue for being pushed live, but likely longer. I hope that fits with what I said about them using the downloads as a guinea pig test for that weird program DE is using so by the time the retail versions are good to go the bugs are gone.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I hope they'll also address the oversaturated dull colors. The sound issue is intermittent, but the games are CONSTANTLY the wrong colors.

[Nz17]

I'm reviving this thread because others seem intent on changing the "Mega Man Anniversary Collection" thread into the "Mega Man Legacy Collection, Take 2" thread. You know who you are, so please keep all discussion of Anniversary Collection in its thread, and all discussion of Legacy Collection in this thread. Thanks.

*ahem*

So, that 2016 physical release of Mega Man Legacy Collection - will it be on just 3DS, or will it be on PlayStation 4, XBOX One, Windows, and/or 3DS? And speaking of which, as it will include all the bug fixes released by then, do you think those fixes will be enough to bump up its "review score" by a full point on the 1 to 10 scale?

(Please, for the love of all that is good, don't mention anything about Rockman Complete Works or any other Mega Man game releases other than the originals and MMLC.)

[Tanooki]

(Please, for the love of all that is good, don't mention anything about Rockman Complete Works or any other Mega Man game releases other than the originals and MMLC.)

Ugh yes agreed. As to your question I read that the console makers versions (nintendo, sony, ms) would be a physical release. I think Steam is just it for PC since Capcom doesn't seem to care much for GoG (only SF Alpha 2 there) which writes off a do it yourself physical version.

I think if the reviewers were honest and it did have any add-on DLC and bug fixes at that point they should do a second review, or at the least, re-post and re-edit the original one changing the parts of the article damning it for bugs, noting the physical release, and re-scoring it based upon the true 'final' packaged up release. We don't need anymore poor sounding reviews that are dull and oversaturated by rambling on about other compilation packages as justification to not review the game on its own merits.

[JSoup]

I've finally finished my exhaustive review of Mega Man Legacy Collection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAelRWDWAdw

Gonna sneak those videos into any thread you can outside of the video forum, ain't ya?

[Satoshi_Matrix]

It isn't to shoehorn anything in -- the video review is very relevant here. None of the major review sites or even other forums even bring up the shortcomings of Legacy Collection when compared to the Rockman Complete Works. They act like this is the first and only time the Megaman classic series has been collected, or if they do compare, they bring up the shotty Megaman Anniversary Collection.

[Tanooki]

They don't bring it up because they're doing their job reviewing the actual game. That you seem to continually fail to understand. Most of the review you've done for the game is bitching how it isn't like a Japanese exclusive and how it even lacks stuff from another panned collection we did get a decade ago while also mini-reviewing tearing into that too in the same space which comes off as whiny, amateurish, and with a smidgen of entitlement complex to it too. And the reason they would bring up the shoddy MM AC package is because it was a US release found at retail anyone could buy off the shelf, Rockman never will be, and even now is barely 1/2 there to get without going through international hoops.

He is right though, you're video trolling and that was made rule of law here. One person, one thread, video thread. The non-review review of yours belongs there and hopefully a moderator will move that post to the right space as it's not fair to others like Daria who are actively using that area with her video reviews.

[Nz17]

It isn't to shoehorn anything in -- the video review is very relevant here.

I agree with this.


None of the major review sites or even other forums even bring up the shortcomings of Legacy Collection when compared to the Rockman Complete Works.

Aaaaauuuuuuuuuuuggggghhhhh!


They bring up the shotty Megaman Anniversary Collection.

UUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggggghhhhhhh!

[Leo_A]

Anyone heard anything about a patch yet?

If this new iteration of Digital Eclipse wants to reinvigorate this concept, I sure hope they fix it. Or perhaps more appropriately, I hope Capcom lets them fix it. I wouldn't put it past Capcom to just not care.



Rockman Complete Works... Megaman Anniversary Collection...

Aaaaauuuuuuuuuuuggggghhhhh!


UUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggggghhhhhhh!

So for someone not interested in importing Rockman Complete Works, what version of Mega Man Anniversary Collection does everyone recommend?

;)

[Tanooki]

That question is an argument wrapped in both personal taste and some subjective facts.

The Gamecube one overall would be fantastic, but it was intentionally gimped not allowing button re-assignment so B/A are reversed causing so many stupid mega buster walking deaths into pits/spikes, or jumping into a spike roof or something that makes you go ouchie when you want to shoot instead. The PS2 version is solid, but some will whine about not being able to use some controllers, but it has the least going for it. Supposedly the xbox one is the nicest but it has some shortcomings as well. XB or GC(if you can adapt to the button problem) are the most ideal.


...and you're right. The DE I once knew back in the GBC-early GBA era (had a couple friends on staff) would care much to fix something like the problems this Legacy collection has, but Capcom would very much be arrogant and cheap enough not to want to even bother pushing a patch even if DE already made it and wanted it done as it's more time and some money I imagine to pay for the pushed fix.

[Leo_A]

That question is an argument wrapped in both personal taste and some subjective facts.

I actually was just kidding around with Nz17. I didn't really want an answer since I've formed my own opinion on Mega Man Anniversary Collection and settled on the Xbox version back when it released, but thanks for trying to be helpful. :)

He was annoyed that discussion about MMAC and the Rockman Complete releases was seeping into this thread while Mega Man Legacy Collection was seeing a lot of discussion in the old Mega Man Anniversary Collection thread.

So I was attempting to be funny, although it apparently didn't quite have the effect that I was after.

[Leo_A]

So, two months and counting yet no sign of a patch?

I don't think this one is getting fixed.

[sfchakan]

Meanwhile, back in non-sucker land, several compilations of some of the best Mega Man games already existed and didn't have severe issues.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Hopefully it will be fixed soon, but even with the occasional sound issues, Legacy Collection is still significantly better than the butchered port Atomic Planet did with Anniversary Collection.

That being said,no amount of patching will ever make it superior to Rockman Complete Works.

[Tanooki]

Which is irrelevant being both a download only thing that's partial on the US and if you did import them all it really adds up.

Perhaps the patch would be something they'd be sheisty enough to hold off not doing until they ship the physical game to bring it up to snuff, or they suck and those will be flawed too but I'd like to think Digital Eclipse sucked a bit less than that, but I wouldn't put it passed Capcom though at all anymore.

[Leo_A]

I'd like to think Digital Eclipse sucked a bit less than that, but I wouldn't put it passed Capcom though at all anymore.

I imagine that Digital Eclipse would love nothing more than to fix it.

[Tanooki]

I do too. Years ago when I was in college (gameboy color era) I had a couple friends who were programmers on their staff so I'm familiar with the people of that period and if some of them are still there or the owner/pres of it then I'd lay any bs down on Capcom most likely. They were a really chill company that could really work up some coding magic to pull off incredible stuff in limited hardware and in their emulator/conversion packages too.

[Nz17]

Physical copies of this compilation released today for PS4, XBone, and 3DS. Who got Mega Man Legacy Collection? Whaddya think of it? Did you pick up one of the special editions?

[Tanooki]

I got it today from amazon. Seems nice. Did one boss per mm1-3 so far and amiibo unlocked the extras with my old toy I've had for months. Not seeing the digital rental bugs so far. Behaves just like NES down to the frame rate changes and flicker spots. The 18 mp3s and 4 stickers are cool too. I'd write more but hate using a touch screen as I goof a lot.

[Leo_A]

Any 3D support? Haven't seen it been mentioned, so I assume this 3DS release is 100% in 2D.

No patch for the console versions thanks to Capcom not allowing Digital Eclipse to tackle the problem. :(

Was hoping to see it all be rectified before this release.

[PrimordialHelios]

Physical copies of this compilation released today for PS4, XBone, and 3DS. Who got Mega Man Legacy Collection? Whaddya think of it? Did you pick up one of the special editions?

Are they releasing a physical PC version? Because if so, I might just have to get that!

[shadowman]

Any 3D support? Haven't seen it been mentioned, so I assume this 3DS release is 100% in 2D.

No patch for the console versions thanks to Capcom not allowing Digital Eclipse to tackle the problem. :(

Was hoping to see it all be rectified before this release.

No 3D support on the 3DS unfortunately. Well, you get 3D "borders" to the games but no actual 3D on the games themselves.


Are they releasing a physical PC version? Because if so, I might just have to get that!

No physical PC release either unfortunately. Its only getting a physical release on the PS4, Xbox One and 3DS and even then only in America. Japan seems to only get a physical release for the 3DS but an Asian PS4 release also exists. Oh and as for Europe. Capcom has aimed for total nostalgia in that regard and not bothered at all! Just like so many missed Mega Man releases over the years! (so in other words, digital only in Europe).

I am glad its got a physical release though, as its finally something I can actually purchase for my MM collection - I've ended up grabbing the PS4 and Xbox One normal releases, the USA 3DS Special Edition with the Gold Amiibo and the Japanese 3DS Special Edition. I'm mostly looking forward to giving the exclusive Amiibo challenges a try, as getting gold medals in all the challenges was easily the highlight of the collection for me.

[PrimordialHelios]

No 3D support on the 3DS unfortunately. Well, you get 3D "borders" to the games but no actual 3D on the games themselves.



No physical PC release either unfortunately. Its only getting a physical release on the PS4, Xbox One and 3DS and even then only in America. Japan seems to only get a physical release for the 3DS but an Asian PS4 release also exists. Oh and as for Europe. Capcom has aimed for total nostalgia in that regard and not bothered at all! Just like so many missed Mega Man releases over the years! (so in other words, digital only in Europe).

I am glad its got a physical release though, as its finally something I can actually purchase for my MM collection - I've ended up grabbing the PS4 and Xbox One normal releases, the USA 3DS Special Edition with the Gold Amiibo and the Japanese 3DS Special Edition. I'm mostly looking forward to giving the exclusive Amiibo challenges a try, as getting gold medals in all the challenges was easily the highlight of the collection for me.

Thanks for the info. I'm trying to move away from digital and DRM as much as possible, but I still might have to get this.
Dammit Capcom, stop screwing us over, just release the physical copies everywhere.

[NeoVenom]

Physical copies of this compilation released today for PS4, XBone, and 3DS. Who got Mega Man Legacy Collection? Whaddya think of it? Did you pick up one of the special editions?

I bought this and to be honest this game is not worth getting because it doesn't include all the Mega Man games. You're better off getting Mega Man Anniversary Collection for Gamecube/PS2. Only interesting thing is the bonus content you get from Mega Man 1 - 6.

[Tanooki]

That's just whining dude, it has them all as far as the NES goes, which is what this package was about. I'm tired of all the bitching by fanboys how it lacks all those SNES/Saturn/PSX releases. Boohoo. It's a physical release, well made, or your choice is to buy all those individual expensive carts and disc(MM8) to get the selection of titles, or you go the PSN route which Capcom cut off around MM3 or 4 anyway outside of Japan. It's a solid package, and it's only $30 ($5 a game) so that's hardly asking too much.

It's the Legacy Collection, not the Library Collection, and MM's existence and legacy are greatly and almost entirely thanks to the NES. That's what this package is all about 100%.

[NeoVenom]

That's just whining dude, it has them all as far as the NES goes, which is what this package was about. I'm tired of all the bitching by fanboys how it lacks all those SNES/Saturn/PSX releases. Boohoo. It's a physical release, well made, or your choice is to buy all those individual expensive carts and disc(MM8) to get the selection of titles, or you go the PSN route which Capcom cut off around MM3 or 4 anyway outside of Japan. It's a solid package, and it's only $30 ($5 a game) so that's hardly asking too much.

It's the Legacy Collection, not the Library Collection, and MM's existence and legacy are greatly and almost entirely thanks to the NES. That's what this package is all about 100%.

Whoa there, relax. I am simply just voicing my opinion on the matter. Plus, I never said Legacy was a terrible collection. I am just saying that if anyone still has a PS2/Gamecube or a Wii that plays Gamecube games, you can get more out of Anniversary Collection than Legacy Collection and it's half the price.

[FieryReign]

That's just whining dude, it has them all as far as the NES goes, which is what this package was about. I'm tired of all the bitching by fanboys how it lacks all those SNES/Saturn/PSX releases. Boohoo. It's a physical release, well made, or your choice is to buy all those individual expensive carts and disc(MM8) to get the selection of titles, or you go the PSN route which Capcom cut off around MM3 or 4 anyway outside of Japan. It's a solid package, and it's only $30 ($5 a game) so that's hardly asking too much.

It's the Legacy Collection, not the Library Collection, and MM's existence and legacy are greatly and almost entirely thanks to the NES. That's what this package is all about 100%.

It's lazy. It's greedy. It makes no sense. Maybe make a new game and stop rereleasing the same shit over and over 20+ years later? They must be incapable. Mega9+10 could've easily been included since they're NES inspired. There's nothing "Legacy" at ALL about this, I'll call it the Megaman NES Collection.

Don't know why people want multiple copies of the same games? Capcom doesn't deserve pats on the rearend for simply putting out a physical release of crusty old games. They can be played on like a dozen different other platforms.

[NeoVenom]

It's lazy. It's greedy. It makes no sense. Maybe make a new game and stop rereleasing the same shit over and over 20+ years later? They must be incapable. Mega9+10 could've easily been included since they're NES inspired. There's nothing "Legacy" at ALL about this, I'll call it the Megaman NES Collection.

Don't know why people want multiple copies of the same games? Capcom doesn't deserve pats on the rearend for simply putting out a physical release of crusty old games. They can be played on like a dozen different other platforms.

When I bought Legacy, I thought it was going to include all the Mega Man games, 1 - 10, as well as Mega Man & Bass. I mean if it is going to be a Legacy, in my opinion, it should have included all the games that involve the original Mega Man.

[Tanooki]

Isn't that kind of your fault for not researching a game before buying it? I mean the box itself clearly explains on the back with each of the pictures, one for each game, with the name of the game next to it, that's all you're getting.

[Tanooki]

It's lazy. It's greedy. It makes no sense. Maybe make a new game and stop rereleasing the same shit over and over 20+ years later? They must be incapable. Mega9+10 could've easily been included since they're NES inspired. There's nothing "Legacy" at ALL about this, I'll call it the Megaman NES Collection.

Don't know why people want multiple copies of the same games? Capcom doesn't deserve pats on the rearend for simply putting out a physical release of crusty old games. They can be played on like a dozen different other platforms.

Disagree and agree on parts. Lazy, yeah, greedy, not really given they cost $5/ea to download anyway. Capcom is clearly incapable of making MM games anymore given their track record over the last few years. MM9 and 10 debatable but they're also not legacy titles, they're fairly new and they're not going to run on an old NES emulator either. Perhaps branding it the Mega Man NES collection would have been smarter, but it's still its legacy.

[bb_hood]

As much as I love megaman I really think this is a weak compilation.. they really should have included more megaman games.
The thing that bothers me the most is that the Collectors Edition with the Gold amiibo is just for the 3ds, they should have included download codes for the WiiU as well. I just have no interest in playing anything on a small handheld screen, then to package the 3ds game with the amiibo is annoying because Im not going to play the game but I want the amiibo.

[shadowman]

I bought this and to be honest this game is not worth getting because it doesn't include all the Mega Man games. You're better off getting Mega Man Anniversary Collection for Gamecube/PS2. Only interesting thing is the bonus content you get from Mega Man 1 - 6.

In terms of content the older collection is better for sure. But I don't really like the old collection either, the port of 7 has really annoying audio issues and they butchered the awesome end credits. 8 is a pretty crappy port as well, the voices are all ruined, it also has its share of other audio issues (audio is either too quiet or too loud) plus Capcom were lazy in porting 8 to the collection and went with the inferior Playstation port and not the Saturn port so several graphical touches (lighting and awesome water ripple effects) are not in, and Cut Man and Wood Man boss battles are also absent.
Plus the first 6 games on the Gamecube/Xbox/PS2 have muddy/blurry graphics compared to the originals and was very noticeable to me personally, while the one thing the new collection got right was having sharper, more clear graphics closer (but not quite perfect) akin to playing the games on CRT via an RGB modded NES.

Oh, and the Gamecube port screwed the controls up, jump and shoot being reversed. That was something I adapted to but it should still never have happened.

The new collection though has sound issues on the PS4, plus that weird scrolling/judder issue on the 3DS port - the latter of which is really strange considering the VC ports on the 3DS run fine. The VC releases don't look as good as the 3DS Legacy Collection though (they look pretty dark/washed out in comparison).

Bottom line, I'd have loved a real complete collection, though my idea of complete would include all the games in the classic universe including stuff like the Wonderswan game, the Wily Tower portion of Wily Wars, Mega Man Soccer, even stuff like the Taiwan/Chinese release Rockman Strategy. The best way of playing the games is still the original games in my opinion, I grabbed this release just to add it to my Mega Man collection, alongside the excellent challenge mode and fun trophies/achievements. This collection is worth grabbing if you want the games legally on the PC or want to play them on a modern console but otherwise its not exactly something to run out and buy.

[Tanooki]

The new collection though has sound issues on the PS4, plus that weird scrolling/judder issue on the 3DS port - the latter of which is really strange considering the VC ports on the 3DS run fine. The VC releases don't look as good as the 3DS Legacy Collection though (they look pretty dark/washed out in comparison).


That was the much earlier released download version, I've not seen a scrolling and jittering issue with the 3DS version on the physical copy I have. I know I cut it, but the GC port I couldn't get used to the reversed controls, and you're right they created problems with the ports of 7-8 and the earlier games while generally right were with the issue you said as well. There is no winner, unless you're speaking of total content even if it's not right. If you want less but more (works/looks right) the 3DS port so far I can vouch for from memory. I'd only hope the same fixes were applied to the PS4 physical version too.

[Niku-Sama]

I just got this on 3ds as well, physical copy, and i'll let you know if I get scrolling problems too. I haven't updated my 3ds in months. its a Zelda 3ds XL (black/gold)

edit:

notice some slight stutter in the transition when it pans to the next section but overall game play I don't notice any thing odd

[shadowman]

I've now received my 3DS version and tried Mega Man 5 and can indeed confirm that it runs really badly unless you go into the options menu and change the game type from "Mega Man" to "Rockman". When set to Mega Man - 5 feels really choppy, almost as if it runs at half the frame rate. However when set to Rockman - 5 is very smooth, I'd say its on par with the NES original.

Otherwise the collection seems decent, I gave a couple of other games (1, 2 and 3) quick tries and didn't notice any frame rate issues on those. Plus the games look so much better (image quality wise) compared to the virtual console versions on the 3DS/Wii U.