Which Company has the worst fan boys?

[PizzaKat]

Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo? I haven't been following the pages of Sony or Microsoft but there are sure a lot of apologists for Nintendo. Although after E3 that might have change. The Microsoft and Sony war has been amusing these past couple of years.

[Niku-Sama]

Microsoft.

the home of jock gamers that seem to think that you replace the same console because it "wears out", and replace it like a burnt out light bulb. not because it was a shoddily built system or any thing. but COD only cause jock gamers

[retroguy]

Microsoft.

the home of jock gamers that seem to think that you replace the same console because it "wears out", and replace it like a burnt out light bulb. not because it was a shoddily built system or any thing. but COD only cause jock gamers

Exactly! I actually got my 360 that way. He's not a jock, but when my friend's console started having problems, he bought another one, gave his old one to me and said if I could fix it, I could keep it. It turned out to be an embarrassingly easy fix once I figured out what the problem was and I haven't had any problems with it since.

I try to ignore the COD crowd and just enjoy all the other good games on the system (Watchmen, Fable, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Fallout, LA Noire, etc. etc.).

[Tanooki]

It's a mix.

Microsoft because they were key in making single player and couch multiplayer a bad thing, taboo. They made it ok to screw gamers out of a fee to have full access (multiplayer) to the games they pay for. They made it somehow mind numbingly ok to ship broken ass systems in mass, then just offer up extended free warranties so they can go back 2...3...a half dozen times and they'll smile and eat the sandwich of the turd to keep going. The trendy thing of the modern FPS, sports, and few other genres being the go to they had a massive hand in as well.

Inwardly to the destruction of the value of the company as a gaming platform - Nintendo. Their f'ng fanboys have created a stupidity vortex. They've created a world where it is toxic to be a third party company trying to peddle a console game. The asshole fans keep saying release IT, then they don't buy IT. Yet they'll eat up anything published and specifically developed by Nintendo no matter what it is or how far off the reservation in quality the game may be too because the god Nintendo released it. Look at the Wii. 3rd partys fairly well shunned it, and those who didn't put out on rails shooter junk and some other campy stuff not releasing the meat of the generation. The WiiU got the big finger entirely after its first year. Again, Nintendo underpowering a system and the gamers only wanting their games...sales figures don't lie, it was a Nintendo and Nintendo fanboy driveby.

[PizzaKat]

I've posted on other sites that the next Nintendo console has to be at minimum as powerful as PS4, that is unless the PS5 is only be a 5 year system. In that case it should be much more powerful and what I get sometimes is "I don't want Nintendo be like the other systems." How the hell does having a strong console coincide with being what Microsoft and Sony do game wise? Stupidity like that is just baffling. Nintendo makes great games and they always have been different. Games would obviously look better since I guess were in the age of frames per second and resolution etc. Hopefully they stop being dicks to third parties and get the big name franchises on there and maybe even exclusives. "I don't care for third parties." Yes because the world revolves around you. I don't see the Wii U hitting 15 million at this point. No third parties is obviously a huge part.

[Tanooki]

The dickery you refer to is their choice. They set a budget for a system to retail for and will not exceed that meaning they make inappropriate cuts to the hardware. Because the tablet controller is quite expensive the parts inside suffered for it in this go around. Earlier in development third parties made a list of needs on new hardware to basically get their support, Nintendo said we have this, you will use this or not. They chose to not. I'm sure they'd think a bit differently if it wasn't for their unintelligent legions of fans who just buy their games that embolden such stupid tactics along with the comment you quoted with their usual excuse of not wanting Nintendo like the other guys. Sad reality is they do NEED to be like them in hardware performance level, but they can do that and still be 100% unique in making some quality games but with Nintendo it's like this one or the other approach they got lucky with on Wii and bit hard in the ass with the WiiU (and the N64 years earlier with carts over CDs.)

[celerystalker]

I think you have to be a little goofy to be a company fanboy in this day and age. No company is looking out for consumers here. As far as who's worst...

Probably Microsoft. A company with almost directly anti-consumer vision, their company has produced consistently flaky hardware, pushed harder than anyone for DRM, DLC, and forced online connectivity. They internally do almost no first party development, as they do more purchasing and licensing than creating, and they charge the most for their online services. How any of this creates brand loyalty is utterly baffling to me, and to be a fanboy for the company would make me question a person's comprehension skills. Maybe I should say skillz instead. It'd make more sense to that demographic.

Nintendo... even though I generally prefer them as a company in that they make their own games, build consoles solely for gaming, and have a legacy that runs through my childhood, their fanboys kill me, even though I admit to having been one in the SNES vs Genesis days. I grew up, though, and while I still prefer their ideas, the kind of fanboys that get into prolonged arguements about whether Ridley should be in Smash Bros. and treat Zelda and Mario games like they can do no wrong are impossible to talk to about games with at length. There's probably a better reason to be a Nintendo fan if you're going to latch onto a company, but the ones that call themselves fanboys for Nintendo seem to be needlessly passionate and perpetuate Nintendo's stagnant creativity of just rehashing Mario and Zelda over and over, dangling a new release in 2 years out there while stringing their audience along with spinoffs.

Sony is the least offensive group of fanboys to me, but only by default. As a company, Sony has never blown me away with anything enough to get excited about the Sony brand, but it also seems to generate a less dedicated and more objective fanbase and less fanboys overall. They at least have created their own IPs and had a more consumer-friendly approach to online play, DRM, and public relations, even if their network has been less reliable. It's more consumer friendly than Microsoft, but aside from first party games, I don't get the need for fervent brand loyalty. The fanboys for Sony seem to mainly just hate Microsoft, so while I don't get it, they bother me the least.

[sfchakan]

ITT: It's 2015 and people are still acting like the PS3 isn't an equally shoddy machine. The BluRay drives wear out way too damn fast and stop reading discs. There's also the YLOD.

This past generation of hardware was fucking terrible and people need to be honest about it. It's damn near a decade later, ffs...

[celerystalker]

ITT: It's 2015 and people are still acting like the PS3 isn't an equally shoddy machine. The BluRay drives wear out way too damn fast and stop reading discs. There's also the YLOD.

This past generation of hardware was fucking terrible and people need to be honest about it. It's damn near a decade later, ffs...

Truth. My first PS2 was the only console I've had to re-purchase after repairing it several times. Their hardware is equally crap.

[Emperor Megas]

ITT: It's 2015 and people are still acting like the PS3 isn't an equally shoddy machine. The BluRay drives wear out way too damn fast and stop reading discs. There's also the YLOD.

This past generation of hardware was fucking terrible and people need to be honest about it. It's damn near a decade later, ffs...My early model backward compatible PS3's Blu Ray drive flaked out. I still plays PS2 games, but crashes or doesn't load PS3 games. I also had a RROD 360. My green HALO Edition one.

[kupomogli]

It's a mix.

Microsoft because they were key in making single player and couch multiplayer a bad thing, taboo. They made it ok to screw gamers out of a fee to have full access (multiplayer) to the games they pay for. They made it somehow mind numbingly ok to ship broken ass systems in mass, then just offer up extended free warranties so they can go back 2...3...a half dozen times and they'll smile and eat the sandwich of the turd to keep going. The trendy thing of the modern FPS, sports, and few other genres being the go to they had a massive hand in as well.

Inwardly to the destruction of the value of the company as a gaming platform - Nintendo. Their f'ng fanboys have created a stupidity vortex. They've created a world where it is toxic to be a third party company trying to peddle a console game. The asshole fans keep saying release IT, then they don't buy IT. Yet they'll eat up anything published and specifically developed by Nintendo no matter what it is or how far off the reservation in quality the game may be too because the god Nintendo released it. Look at the Wii. 3rd partys fairly well shunned it, and those who didn't put out on rails shooter junk and some other campy stuff not releasing the meat of the generation. The WiiU got the big finger entirely after its first year. Again, Nintendo underpowering a system and the gamers only wanting their games...sales figures don't lie, it was a Nintendo and Nintendo fanboy driveby.

What Tanooki said word for word. Nintendo fans are worse though because they killed the Wii U long before it should have died off. I really want to buy a Wii U and was planning on it, but after watching this years E3, now even Nintendo isn't supporting the console. It's clear that they're pushing everything off towards next year towards the unveiling of the NX. Now I honestly don't know. Do I want a system that has less than 10 exclusives that I'm actually interested in playing? I especially want Super Smash Bros, Super Mario Maker, and Super Mario 3D World, but is it really worth it paying ~$400 for just those and the Wii U(and that's if I get them all at a deal.)

[CDiablo]

Sony fanboys(not normal fans) by a mile. They both make up the largest and most vocal group of gamers yet still complain of being oppressed and constantly harassed by other gamers. It's like Christians in this country(USA), they make up 70-80% of the population and will scream that there is a war on them if anything rubs them the wrong way. Sony fanboys are quick to mob anyone that has criticism against nearly anything Sony. Sony fanboys feel they are part of an elite club of god like gamers that LOVE every genre of game unless the game isn't coming to Playstation. They do double standards year round to protect their favorite company. Their lack of sense and elite mental gymnastics make for a lot of funny message board jabber. Sony fanboys are a cancer in many online gaming communities and make most message boards unusable for me.

Nintendo fanboys are an odd group. They, in my opinion, are so blinded by fanboyism that they don't see they are on a fast sinking ship. They are pleasant for the most part and aren't big on attacking but sometimes blindly defend. They seem to be a large, but positive group, so message boards seem to be filled with a lot of redundant discussion because Ninty doesn't have much to talk about now a days. I love Nintendo and all but they need to make some major changes.

If I have ever seen more than a dozen MS fanboys in the wild I would be shocked. Their XBOX userbase is mostly made up of casual gamers that are usually into a handful of franchises in a big way, thus niche games don't fair well on the consoles. If the company has fanboys, they are probably deep in MS only messageboards.

[CDiablo]

Probably Microsoft. A company with almost directly anti-consumer vision, their company has produced consistently flaky hardware, pushed harder than anyone for DRM, DLC, and forced online connectivity.

Anti consumer: the big 3 are all guilty.

Consistantly flaky hardware: By that you only mean early gen Xbox 360s. Early Gen PS1's, 2's and 3's all have well known and documented hardware issues. The OG XBOX is a tank.

pushed harder than anyone for DRM: That would likely be entirely on Steam who successfully killed physical PC gaming. The original X1 "vision" was a middle ground between Steam gaming, retail and user control(reselling, sharing). They tried to bring in the digital age before it's time.

DLC:Would have happened with or without MS existing. Blame the EA's, UBI's, Activisions,WB's and other bloated game budgeters of the world. If you think Call Of Duty 4 would have not been just as big without MS you are kidding yourself.

[Tupin]

Not one mention of Valve fanboys? PC gamers as a whole are too big to quanitify, but a lot of Valve fanboys would (and do) excuse stuff Valve does because they are Valve even if they would hate if another company did it. I'm surprised paid more got the backlash they did.

[Tanooki]

Perhaps the value suck ups are ignored, despite what Steam has pulled off for better or worse. It's hard to hate them totally when you get weekly/daily steam sales, then the period of super cuts. Sure it killed the boxed PC game almost entirely and also ownership right since you're stuck on Steam DRM, but it has also caused a backlash when you look at the slowly but steadily increasing amount of dual or shortly there after releases on DRM free GoG.com which does all the cuts too.

KUPO--My comments, your follow up, it's why I don't have the Wii U anymore. It was a hell of a fun system, it is on par if not a hair better than the last gen, but Nintendo tanked it by telling third parties to use the tablet or bug off while making a more confusing trick to develop(properly for) code base making ports a pain in the ass to do. Coupling that with fanboy stupidity and being out of date out of the box with the tablet not taking off like the motion controller years earlier and they pooched it entirely. I took a hit on my games, but I was able to basically break even on my system thankfully. I didn't loose more than a couple hundred or so maybe and I had at least a dozen games or so while I had it. I'm happy I got out when I did because the flip price on them fell and the games are mostly a dry well and getting more thirsty going forward as E3 is showing. Nintendo is putting their money moreso on the 3DS for now as a lifeboat until NX can drop in 2016 late or 2017. Of which, I am fairly positive I will NOT buy until I know more and if it is a dedicated console only device until it has enough games to justify the price along with proper support by outsiders. If they ditch the handheld and console being alone and make it one device for use on both mediums I'd be more inclined since they seem to be able to get people to make games on their cheaper handhelds still.

[Tupin]

Nah, man. If anything Valve suckups and PC fans as a whole have pushed the idea that you can sell a license to a game and people will be fine with it as long as it is cheap enough.

[CDiablo]

Not one mention of Valve fanboys? PC gamers as a whole are too big to quanitify, but a lot of Valve fanboys would (and do) excuse stuff Valve does because they are Valve even if they would hate if another company did it. I'm surprised paid more got the backlash they did.

Valve fanboys are pretty bad. They get extremely defensive and vile when I show them that Steam no longer is that great on deals compared to console. I think I butt heads with Valve supporters cause we have different values when it comes to ownership. They have trouble understanding why someone would possibly want to own a physical copy if you can just downloading it. Valve killed PC gaming for me for the most part. I can't justify buying anything digital until it floats around the $5 range. I use GOG a bit but still miss games with boxes, cd keys and install disks.

To this day I remember when Valve updated their terms of service to have users sign off on never joining/filing/etc a class action lawsuit. When asked if we don't agree to those terms Valve replied that "We can delete your account for you." People have hundreds-thousands of dollars they spent on games and you corner them like this. Absolute shit and is the thing that pretty much has kept me from buying a Steam game for 3-5 years now.

[Hep038]

Easily Nintendo.
They tendency to look down their noses at anything that is not Nintendo. They like to give gamers labels like "hardcore" and then explain how they are ruining the gaming industry. They go on and on about how greedy Microsoft and Sony are , but then rush to the message board to post Nintendo profit numbers. They just seem like very desperate gamers who think they are on some humanitarian mission to save the world because they support Nintendo. They always talk about how they are in the hobby for the games but then take joy in seeing other systems have launch problems , or the company stocks drop , or any other bad PR they can run to message boards and post. Yeah Microsoft and Sony fan boys can be very immature but you always hope they can grow out of it. It seems Nintendo fans seem to get more desperate and hatefull the older the get.

[Tupin]

Valve fanboys are pretty bad. They get extremely defensive and vile when I show them that Steam no longer is that great on deals compared to console. I think I butt heads with Valve supporters cause we have different values when it comes to ownership. They have trouble understanding why someone would possibly want to own a physical copy if you can just downloading it. Valve killed PC gaming for me for the most part. I can't justify buying anything digital until it floats around the $5 range. I use GOG a bit but still miss games with boxes, cd keys and install disks.

To this day I remember when Valve updated their terms of service to have users sign off on never joining/filing/etc a class action lawsuit. When asked if we don't agree to those terms Valve replied that "We can delete your account for you." People have hundreds-thousands of dollars they spent on games and you corner them like this. Absolute shit and is the thing that pretty much has kept me from buying a Steam game for 3-5 years now.
Valve pretty much proved that people will sign away a lot of things and give up ownership and consumer stuff if you make things cheap and craft a "renegade" image when in reality you do the same stuff as all of your competitors. No one cares when you can buy a game for $5.

[Gentlegamer]

I think you have to be a little goofy to be a company fanboy in this day and age. No company is looking out for consumers here. As far as who's worst...

Probably Microsoft. A company with almost directly anti-consumer vision, their company has produced consistently flaky hardware, pushed harder than anyone for DRM, DLC, and forced online connectivity. They internally do almost no first party development, as they do more purchasing and licensing than creating, and they charge the most for their online services. How any of this creates brand loyalty is utterly baffling to me, and to be a fanboy for the company would make me question a person's comprehension skills. Maybe I should say skillz instead. It'd make more sense to that demographic.

Nintendo... even though I generally prefer them as a company in that they make their own games, build consoles solely for gaming, and have a legacy that runs through my childhood, their fanboys kill me, even though I admit to having been one in the SNES vs Genesis days. I grew up, though, and while I still prefer their ideas, the kind of fanboys that get into prolonged arguements about whether Ridley should be in Smash Bros. and treat Zelda and Mario games like they can do no wrong are impossible to talk to about games with at length. There's probably a better reason to be a Nintendo fan if you're going to latch onto a company, but the ones that call themselves fanboys for Nintendo seem to be needlessly passionate and perpetuate Nintendo's stagnant creativity of just rehashing Mario and Zelda over and over, dangling a new release in 2 years out there while stringing their audience along with spinoffs.

Sony is the least offensive group of fanboys to me, but only by default. As a company, Sony has never blown me away with anything enough to get excited about the Sony brand, but it also seems to generate a less dedicated and more objective fanbase and less fanboys overall. They at least have created their own IPs and had a more consumer-friendly approach to online play, DRM, and public relations, even if their network has been less reliable. It's more consumer friendly than Microsoft, but aside from first party games, I don't get the need for fervent brand loyalty. The fanboys for Sony seem to mainly just hate Microsoft, so while I don't get it, they bother me the least.

I claim your post as my answer, as well.

[Emperor Megas]

The OG XBOX is a tank.Unless you had one with a Thomson drive that takes a shit (I had one), or your disc tray doors is prone to getting stuck and you have to rap it on top when you press the eject button (2 of mine). :(

[The 1 2 P]

Sony fanboys(not normal fans) by a mile. They both make up the largest and most vocal group of gamers yet still complain of being oppressed and constantly harassed by other gamers. It's like Christians in this country(USA), they make up 70-80% of the population and will scream that there is a war on them if anything rubs them the wrong way. Sony fanboys are quick to mob anyone that has criticism against nearly anything Sony. Sony fanboys feel they are part of an elite club of god like gamers that LOVE every genre of game unless the game isn't coming to Playstation. They do double standards year round to protect their favorite company. Their lack of sense and elite mental gymnastics make for a lot of funny message board jabber. Sony fanboys are a cancer in many online gaming communities and make most message boards unusable for me.

Agree with this 1000%. Sony fanboys are the worst for one simple reason(among the many others): they complain about stuff that Microsoft does but makes excuses when Sony does the same thing. Sony fanboys love bringing up the rrod(and they should because that's inexcusable) but purposely forget that the PS1 had overheating issues, PS2 had disc read issues and all launch PS3's are destined to YLOD. Sony fanboys complain that Microsoft paid to have Titanfall and Rise of The Tomb Raider(timed) exclusive to XBO but act like Sony is a hero when they do the same thing for Street Fighter V, Silent Hills(before it got canceled) and the upcoming remake of FFVII(among many other games they have done this for since the PS1 released). Sony fanboys constantly complain about Microsoft focusing too much on tv but then they act like the Powers tv show was some kind of break thru on consoles(it wasn't) and the new PS Vue announcement was special(it also wasn't).

Also, Sony fanboys love throwing around how Microsoft is all about anti-consumer practices and policies. You mean like making people buy system specific memory cards for the Vita in this day and age? Like telling people that the PS3 isn't really expensive and if you think it is then you need to go get a second job? Like telling people that if they are tired of waiting for long ass PS3 mandatory installs that they should go make a sandwich? Or how about this more recent example: instead of treating your fans/console owners like adults why not basically tell them "no we are not going to allow EA Access on our console because it doesn't represent good value and our console fans aren't mature enough or intelligent enough to make that decision(rather to spend $5 a month or not) on their own". Are those the kind of anti-consumer practices Sony fanboys hate?

I'm not saying that some Nintendo and Microsoft fanboys aren't bad but Sony fanboys have the distinction of not only being blindly loyal sheep but delusional muppets as well. I've always said that fans of any console/company are ok but when you get to the point where you are not only refusing to say/admit anything negative about your preferred company but also blatantly go out of your way to attack their competitors(as Sony fanboys love to do to Microsoft specifically) than you are way past a normal fan and well into loony fanboy territory.

[Tanooki]

Valve fanboys are pretty bad. They get extremely defensive and vile when I show them that Steam no longer is that great on deals compared to console. I think I butt heads with Valve supporters cause we have different values when it comes to ownership. They have trouble understanding why someone would possibly want to own a physical copy if you can just downloading it. Valve killed PC gaming for me for the most part. I can't justify buying anything digital until it floats around the $5 range. I use GOG a bit but still miss games with boxes, cd keys and install disks.

To this day I remember when Valve updated their terms of service to have users sign off on never joining/filing/etc a class action lawsuit. When asked if we don't agree to those terms Valve replied that "We can delete your account for you." People have hundreds-thousands of dollars they spent on games and you corner them like this. Absolute shit and is the thing that pretty much has kept me from buying a Steam game for 3-5 years now.

Good points just like Tupin followed up with the $5 rule for many and their renegade look they have and do tout yet have more and more lost as GoG seems to kick em in the nuts with releases. I treat Steam (and to a lesser degree GoG) like android and ios gaming. $5 is my price cap for maybe 90-95% of the stuff I'll grab, the other all but 1% fall under the $10 level, and the last 1% may eek north towards or to $15 but over that they can eat me.

I guess I've avoided Valve fanboys if they're all that awful and terrible as I haven't seen it. But I have seen the obvious part, the silent part, or rolling over and taking it in the keister duping a generation and future ones into believing games are unique and you should never own them, you just long term rent them until they pull the rug out from under you. I quit buying on Steam for years, recently I did pick up a few things but they were in the 75-90% off deals on stuff AND they were NOT on GoG. GoG I'll buy from because I do own them, I can save them, back them up wherever I like as many times as I want, and if they do upgrade the files you can get it again or usually the added download file to do it. Painless ownership, but I do too greatly miss the box and especially the manual.

Basically screw you to the console guys too with their digital manuals, I forget they are even there it sucks so bad as you have to jump out and slowly muddle around a digital book. It's faster to just fire up gamefaqs and Ctrl+F the control/tactics selection in a damned faq file.

[Gamevet]

I think fanboys in general suck. Name a console, or franchise, and you'll find at least a couple of nuts that will jump in to complain about game X on console Y getting a good review, while their stuff got didn't get the same treatment.

There was some fool on youtube that started bitching about IGN giving The Last of US remastered a 10, while Pokémon Heartgold didn't get the 10 that Pokémon Gold got some 10 years earlier. His claim was that TLOU on the PS4 was a remake and should get the same kind of score as the Pokémon game got, even though one is a remake and one is a remaster. It's been 5 years dude, it's time to stop clutching your Pikachu and gettimg on with life.

[Flojomojo]

All "fanboys" are insufferable, but only PC gamers have the disgusting catchphrase "PC master race." Ugh.

[Tupin]

All "fanboys" are insufferable, but only PC gamers have the disgusting catchphrase "PC master race." Ugh.
You realize people complaining about this only makes them want to say it more, right?

[Tanooki]

Until this thread I don't think I've ever heard of the PC Master Race, must be some niche of douchebaggery? I mean I've seen over time people knock (and rightly so) dual sticks over mouse and a keyboard for FPS games, or pointing out even having a mouse on SNES doesn't make Civ and Lemmings 2 better on there, but I've never seen some huge trail of arrogance and blind stupidity I've seen that dedicate game systems get with their fans.

[Gentlegamer]

Until this thread I don't think I've ever heard of the PC Master Race, must be some niche of douchebaggery? I mean I've seen over time people knock (and rightly so) dual sticks over mouse and a keyboard for FPS games, or pointing out even having a mouse on SNES doesn't make Civ and Lemmings 2 better on there, but I've never seen some huge trail of arrogance and blind stupidity I've seen that dedicate game systems get with their fans.

"PC Master Race" was a joke used by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw in his Zero Punctuation series. A number of people adapted it both facetiously tongue-in-cheek and seriously.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-glorious-pc-gaming-master-race

[kupomogli]

PC master race is more of a funny joke than fanboys. I'm not a fan of Pokemon, but I like the PC master race image being spun off into this.

http://orig07.deviantart.net/323c/f/2013/220/e/b/glorious_mega_evolution_master_race_by_neopolis-d6ha3uj.png

[Tanooki]

Well if Yahtzee said it, you can't take it seriously as it's 100% joke. Anyone using it as a weapon is pretty sad.

[RARusk]

This is the Internet. Anything and everything can be used as a weapon. And anything and everything can be also be used as a sex toy but that is another discussion.

[bb_hood]

And anything and everything can be also be used as a sex toy but that is another discussion.

What about a cactus? No way a cactus can ever be used as a sex toy.

[Tanooki]

If you're determined enough to remove the spines...

[Gamevet]

The console youtube videos are loaded with PC master race comments. They've been increasing ever since the release of the Xbox One and PS4, because those consoles are pretty close to being a PC in a box.

[sfchakan]

They're more like slightly older PCs in a box. A $400 PC built by someone with a head on their shoulders will blow away either console, honestly.

[Melf]

Fanboys in general are horrible, but Nintendo fanboys irritate me the most. The level of revisionist history they spout makes research much harder than it should be, since most people take it at face value and never bothers to fact check, and no matter what facts you present, they refuse to believe anything that doesn't put Nintendo as the shining savior of all gaming worldwide. They puff their chests about how much better Nintendo is than everything else, but often admit that they haven't really played anything not made by Nintendo. Nintendo always had the best ports, the best hardware - the best EVERYTHING, because... Nintendo.

My eyes simply can't roll back enough.

[Gentlegamer]

What about a cactus? No way a cactus can ever be used as a sex toy.

There's parts of the internet you don't ever want to find . . .

[sfchakan]

Fanboys in general are horrible, but Nintendo fanboys irritate me the most. The level of revisionist history they spout makes research much harder than it should be, since most people take it at face value and never bothers to fact check, and no matter what facts you present, they refuse to believe anything that doesn't put Nintendo as the shining savior of all gaming worldwide. They puff their chests about how much better Nintendo is than everything else, but often admit that they haven't really played anything not made by Nintendo. Nintendo always had the best ports, the best hardware - the best EVERYTHING, because... Nintendo.

My eyes simply can't roll back enough.

FUN FACTS: Mario saved the gaming industry. More people know Mario than Mickey Mouse. Fire Emblem is the only SRPG worth knowing. Having a complete licensed NES collection makes you super 1337. Smash Bros is the best fighting game ever and only serious strategists can master it's intricacies. Nintendo completely dominated the market from 1985 until Sony threw money at the market and brainwashed the peasantry into buying their consoles. Miyamoto is the only game designer anyone needs to even interview or know anything about. Miyamoto is GOD. The Nintendo 64 is one of the greatest gaming machines of ALL TIME. Rock over London, rock on Chicago. Mario is love. Mario is life.

[RP2A03]

FUN FACTS: Mario saved the gaming industry. More people know Mario than Mickey Mouse. Fire Emblem is the only SRPG worth knowing. Having a complete licensed NES collection makes you super 1337. Smash Bros is the best fighting game ever and only serious strategists can master it's intricacies. Nintendo completely dominated the market from 1985 until Sony threw money at the market and brainwashed the peasantry into buying their consoles. Miyamoto is the only game designer anyone needs to even interview or know anything about. Miyamoto is GOD. The Nintendo 64 is one of the greatest gaming machines of ALL TIME. Rock over London, rock on Chicago. Mario is love. Mario is life.

Quoted for truth.

[Tron 2.0]

I think fanboys in general suck. Name a console, or franchise, and you'll find at least a couple of nuts that will jump in to complain about game X on console Y getting a good review, while their stuff got didn't get the same treatment.

There was some fool on youtube that started bitching about IGN giving The Last of US remastered a 10, while Pokémon Heartgold didn't get the 10 that Pokémon Gold got some 10 years earlier. His claim was that TLOU on the PS4 was a remake and should get the same kind of score as the Pokémon game got, even though one is a remake and one is a remaster. It's been 5 years dude, it's time to stop clutching your Pikachu and gettimg on with life.
This,it can be for any group it doesn't matter if the person is into pc or console gaming.Beside how ugly it get's on any video for youtube.It's comment section is all ways filled with fanboys that have defend there system of choice.Even when said company screws up fanboys will try to be ignorant about it.

[retroguy]

Fanboys in general are horrible, but Nintendo fanboys irritate me the most. The level of revisionist history they spout makes research much harder than it should be, since most people take it at face value and never bothers to fact check, and no matter what facts you present, they refuse to believe anything that doesn't put Nintendo as the shining savior of all gaming worldwide. They puff their chests about how much better Nintendo is than everything else, but often admit that they haven't really played anything not made by Nintendo. Nintendo always had the best ports, the best hardware - the best EVERYTHING, because... Nintendo.

My eyes simply can't roll back enough.

I'll grant you that some people take it too far, but Nintendo really did save the gaming industry singlehandedly after the crash of 83 and without Nintendo there would be no Xbox or Playstation. We need to remember that.

[Gamevet]

I'll grant you that some people take it too far, but Nintendo really did save the gaming industry singlehandedly after the crash of 83 and without Nintendo there would be no Xbox or Playstation. We need to remember that.


That's Nintendo BS!

I was more than happy with playing games on my C-64 and Amiga. Nintendo did not save gaming; they brought back the console market that was killed off by the sudden consumer interest in home computers. Most of the early titles on the NES were ports of C-64 and Atari 8-bit computer games.

Toys R' Us was still promoting the C-64 in 1986, as it was their best selling item for the holidays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVUZsm7q9IU

[WCP]

I would say that the most hardcore Nintendo fans leave me the most frustrated from a fanboyism standpoint.


Nintendo will do some of the dumbest shit possible, yet the most hardcore Nintendo fanboys will spin anything dumb Nintendo is doing into a positive.

[Tupin]

That's Nintendo BS!

I was more than happy with playing games on my C-64 and Amiga. Nintendo did not save gaming; they brought back the console market that was killed off by the sudden consumer interest in home computers. Most of the early titles on the NES were ports of C-64 and Atari 8-bit computer games.

Toys R' Us was still promoting the C-64 in 1986, as it was their best selling item for the holidays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVUZsm7q9IU
This is something that PC gamers are quick to mention, too. A lot of console fanboys completely forget or discount the impact of computers from the very beginning.

[Sailorneorune]

I would say that the most hardcore Nintendo fans leave me the most frustrated from a fanboyism standpoint.


Nintendo will do some of the dumbest shit possible, yet the most hardcore Nintendo fanboys will spin anything dumb Nintendo is doing into a positive.

Like, "amiibo being unavailable is what makes it exciting when you DO find one!". :bullshit:Looking forward to cracking the Splatoon paywall in a few weeks thanks to someone wanting my Marth.

[The 1 2 P]

without Nintendo there would be no Xbox or Playstation. We need to remember that.

I really hate when people say stuff like that because it's never true. There's "without Goldeneye 64 there would be no Halo" which is assinine at worse and idiotic at best. Then there's "without Super Mario 64 there would be no 3D games". And the list goes on and on. I'm all for acknowledging small influences but 3D games(platform or otherwise) would have still come into existence without Super Mario 64 and Halo doesn't owe a thing to Goldeneye because A) there were console fps games before it and B) Halo's game mechanics are light years beyond anything Goldeneye did.

I don't see many PC master race comments on here but they are all over small non-dedicated sites comments sections like yahoo and of course on youtube. It may have started as a joke but a lot of people really do take it seriously. It doesn't really bother me though and I consider it one of the least annoying things fanboys say or do compared to their console brethren.

[sfchakan]

Anyone who doesn't believe a multiplatform game generally looks and runs better on a PC is being willfully ignorant, though. There are exceptions and lazy ports, just like with anything. However, the majority of the time the PC versions are better.

[Zthun]

I don't understand why people are so anti-CoD. I used to jump on that bandwagon when I was ignorant..but then I played a CoD game and thought...."hmmm...this is actually really good. If more FPS games were like this, I would be way more interested in the genre." Saying you don't like the people that play CoD is one thing, but to knock the game because of it...that's just a logical fallacy.


Valve fanboys are pretty bad. They get extremely defensive and vile when I show them that Steam no longer is that great on deals compared to console. I think I butt heads with Valve supporters cause we have different values when it comes to ownership. They have trouble understanding why someone would possibly want to own a physical copy if you can just downloading it. Valve killed PC gaming for me for the most part. I can't justify buying anything digital until it floats around the $5 range. I use GOG a bit but still miss games with boxes, cd keys and install disks.

It kind of works both ways. Those of us that have jumped on the digital bandwagon are viewed as idiots because Microsoft/Valve/Sony are part of a massive conspiracy to fuck us out of our games. It's only a matter of time before the the big suits finish wanking and blow the shut down jizz all over there servers, throwing all those bits into the void of non-existence and costing the gaming community billions in the process. Or you can come back to reality and realize that even if that did happen, another company would buy out the service, or pirates would remove the DRM.


To this day I remember when Valve updated their terms of service to have users sign off on never joining/filing/etc a class action lawsuit. When asked if we don't agree to those terms Valve replied that "We can delete your account for you." People have hundreds-thousands of dollars they spent on games and you corner them like this. Absolute shit and is the thing that pretty much has kept me from buying a Steam game for 3-5 years now.

Yeah, I don't actually think that would hold up. I know that us peasants think that companies can do whatever they want, but in reality, companies cannot just put whatever they feel in their ToS and have it enforced as law. Companies cannot just create laws that easily.

And after all that ranting, I'm going to go ahead and cop out and say that all fanboy's are terrible. The entire point of competition is options. If there was a best, then everyone would flock to it; the other services would shut down; and you would only have one option. At this point, that option would start to suck because said owner would quickly learn that their service can charge any value desired and people would pay. Look at Comcast/TWC/Chater/Cox. Not a whole lot of competition between regions, and the quality suffers because of it.

[Tanooki]

FUN FACTS: Mario saved the gaming industry. More people know Mario than Mickey Mouse. Fire Emblem is the only SRPG worth knowing. Having a complete licensed NES collection makes you super 1337. Smash Bros is the best fighting game ever and only serious strategists can master it's intricacies. Nintendo completely dominated the market from 1985 until Sony threw money at the market and brainwashed the peasantry into buying their consoles. Miyamoto is the only game designer anyone needs to even interview or know anything about. Miyamoto is GOD. The Nintendo 64 is one of the greatest gaming machines of ALL TIME. Rock over London, rock on Chicago. Mario is love. Mario is life.

Very true on the sarcasm, but to be fair depending how you want to look at things your two bits on Mario have a good bit of truth to them. Mario was the big kicker for Nintendo that got a lot of awareness going and Nintendo did not save but did revitalize the home gaming market. And one year, and I don't recall which, Mario actually was under a certain age group of kids more popular/known than Mickey Mouse. But in all fairness Disney was in that huge slump in the 80s before the Little Mermaid bailed their asses out of them imploding themselves on poorly received movies and other funk so that's got to be the factor to it because that's when the Nintendo commercial and media blitzes were at their highest.



Zthun maybe I'm off on this, but the anti-COD thing is a fair thing to have an opinion towards. COD made it very ok to put up nearly to yearly reshashed FPS games to rake in the money, it became the Madden of shooters. Full price, not much different between some years, and people would just gobble it up. Others saw what they were doing it, and more and more FPS me-toos came out, it was the safe thing. Other games that could have been done weren't or got relegated to download services or other dark corners, or even just thrown on a handheld because it's cheap. CoD in how it is setup and managed is a problem, not the content of the game itself so much because if it was bad no one would buy it and re-buy it every year. But it's not really CODs fault, it's third parties in their bad way they manage their assets, bank books and talent going with crazy budgets and dumb ideas on how many millions a game has to sell so it's not a failure that costs them dough (like the famous 4M was poor sales for Square-Enix on Tomb Raider.) Unrealistic budgets with unfair costs put into them going crazy on stuff or hollywood with a game is as much if not more at fault than COD. At least with the cash they rake in with their yearly drivel they could easily afford Kevin Spacey.

[Gamevet]

Very true on the sarcasm, but to be fair depending how you want to look at things your two bits on Mario have a good bit of truth to them. Mario was the big kicker for Nintendo that got a lot of awareness going and Nintendo did not save but did revitalize the home gaming market.


The whole videogame crash was a North American thing. It wasn't some world-wide event. The NES was not a big selling system in Europe, where home computers were the platform of choice for their video gaming needs, and continued to be their #1 gaming platform until the 90s. The NES did not become an overnight success in North America either. It really didn't take over the market until late 1987, when the 8-bit computer craze was starting to wind down.

I had put together a list of developers/publishers that got their start on the 8-bit computers between 1980-1984. The list would have been much larger, if I had included companies that got their start after 1984, and included companies (like Interplay) that were under the umbrella of publishers like EA. There were also companies like Sega and Atari that were releasing their titles on various 8-bit computers and PC.

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?27395-Computer-publishers-and-developers-of-the-80s

[Gentlegamer]

Before PlayStation, there was no mass market for video games in Europe.

[Tanooki]

The whole videogame crash was a North American thing. It wasn't some world-wide event. The NES was not a big selling system in Europe, where home computers were the platform of choice for their video gaming needs, and continued to be their #1 gaming platform until the 90s. The NES did not become an overnight success in North America either. It really didn't take over the market until late 1987, when the 8-bit computer craze was starting to wind down.

I had put together a list of developers/publishers that got their start on the 8-bit computers between 1980-1984. The list would have been much larger, if I had included companies that got their start after 1984, and included companies (like Interplay) that were under the umbrella of publishers like EA. There were also companies like Sega and Atari that were releasing their titles on various 8-bit computers and PC.

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?27395-Computer-publishers-and-developers-of-the-80s

I'm aware of that, but I also don't care in the slightest either as I'm not from Europe or the rest so the argument was meant for the NA console market. I know Sega had the bigger grab of the European market though as I caught up on plenty once I got online 20 years ago (ugh it's been that long.) The NES didn't take off for awhile, it grew, then exploded in the later part of the 80s which was around the time the whole Mickey vs Mario awareness thing did happen. The source of that was 1990 when Nintendo was at its biggest and some Q Score survey found more kids recognized Mario than Mickey, and qscore is still around now, and I don't have the book any longer but David Sheff who did the big paperback book on old Nintendo history sourced it somewhere. Here's an old article from 1993 referencing it in detail - http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-05-18/features/1993138174_1_mario-nintendo-mickey-mouse Game Over by him is a fantastic resource of non-bs stories that Nintendo fanboys probably would love to stick their fingers in their ears and ignore but it's there for better and worse. Either way it's well enough known at least in the US that Nintendo did what it did, but the fanboys at large would shove the needle back closer to 1985 than 1990, and before that point PCs, C64s and so on while understated were a good go to for such things after all those consoles started to fold up in the earlier 80s.

[Gamevet]

I've read both books. They are a very good read.


I believe I had 1st heard about the Mickey Mouse thing while reading Game Pro, or EG&CE.

[Gamevet]

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