Xbox One, PS4 And Wii U Owners--How Much Hard Drive Space Do You Have Left?

[The 1 2 P]

We are roughly a month away from the two year anniversary of the Xbox One and PS4 launches and the three year anniversary for the Wii U. As most owners of one or more of these systems have noticed the initial hard drive space offered to us sucked. 500 gb's isn't even 500 gb's after you take into account the amount of space needed for the console's various operations.

I started out with a 500 gb Xbox One I bought last year during the week they gave away any retail game up to $60 for free. It was the Madden bundle and I bought it from Best Buy the week they were giving away a two year gamer's club unlocked membership(which cost $99 back then but today only cost $30 and makes all new games 20% off as well as many other discounts and benefits). So $300 for a new system, two free games and gamer's club unlocked was a really good deal but I quickly learned that 500 gb was an insufficient amount of storage when you factor in monthly free games and an average of 40-50 gbs for the AAA releases. So a few months later I upgraded to the 1 tb Call Of Duty system.

It's now been roughly a year that I've had my 1 tb system and I have less than 200 gb's left. I'm currently eyeing up some 5 tb and larger external hard drives to purchase. So how much hard drive space does everyone else have left?

[Tanooki]

I've used up around 1/3 of my drive, but in all fairness I haven't paid for any Pinball Arcade packs, removed all the free PS+ games since I didn't pay to keep that up. If i had PS+ it would be beyond overloaded and I'd be choosing stuff as mine is 500GB. When I had PS+ I got close to rationing space and that was a year ago with the freebies. The installs on these new systems are just so bloated it's ridiculous.

I'd love to know the excuse for it too given I've installed some modern PC games and they take up far less space and they're not running off the disc either. Seems almost intentionally sloppy.

[kai123]

Well the install size is around the same for most pc games as well. The disc is just the DRM check to play the game. GTA V is around the same size as the PC version installed on the PS4. I need to upgrade my HDD. I just wish Sony would let me use an external drive to install games and make it easier like the XBONE does.

[Gamevet]

I've only had my PS4 for 10 months. I only have about 6 games for it, including digital only versions of Killzone and NBA2K14. I don't have PSN+, so the only games I have installed are the 4 physical games, the 2 digital games and Pinball. I have maybe 240 GB left on my HDD.




Well the install size is around the same for most pc games as well. The disc is just the DRM check to play the game. GTA V is around the same size as the PC version installed on the PS4. I need to upgrade my HDD. I just wish Sony would let me use an external drive to install games and make it easier like the XBONE does.

I've heard that MS does not make it easy to put in an larger internal HDD, just like they did with the 360. The PS4 is just like the PS3, in that you can upgrade the internal HDD.

[The 1 2 P]

I've heard that MS does not make it easy to put in an larger internal HDD, just like they did with the 360. The PS4 is just like the PS3, in that you can upgrade the internal HDD.

You missed the point of what he said. Microsoft doesn't allow you to put larger internal hard drives in your Xbox One, they allow you to use any external hard drive that's at least 256 gb. All you do is plug it into a usb port, it gets recognized and you can start saving. That's what he meant by Microsoft making it easier to upgrade to a larger hard drive.

[Gamevet]

You missed the point of what he said. Microsoft doesn't allow you to put larger internal hard drives in your Xbox One, they allow you to use any external hard drive that's at least 256 gb. All you do is plug it into a usb port, it gets recognized and you can start saving. That's what he meant by Microsoft making it easier to upgrade to a larger hard drive.

I didn't miss the point. MS is pretty much doing what they did with the 360, by allowing an external HDD, while Sony is pretty much doing what they did with the PS3, by offering an easy transition to upgrading the internal HDD.

The internal HDD is going to have a higher bandwidth (SATA) than what you can get with a HDD connected to a USB port.

[The 1 2 P]

I didn't miss the point.

Yes you did but we'll get to that in a minute.


MS is pretty much doing what they did with the 360, by allowing an external HDD,

Wrong. The 360 has been out since 2005 and up until a few months ago you could not use an external hard drive. You instead had to use internal hard drives, starting from the 20 gb one's from the first version of the 360 all the way up to the 500 gb max hard drives of the slim 360's. So Microsoft's approach to storage between those two systems is vastly different as they've already said that you'll never be able to switch out the internal hard drive of the Xbox One.


Sony is pretty much doing what they did with the PS3, by offering an easy transition to upgrading the internal HDD.

Taking a quick glance of youtube video's and how-to guide's on google it looks like it takes a person anywhere from 10 minutes to a half hour on average to change out a PS4 hard drive. Easy? Seems like it but in the 15 minutes(I'm using the medium time for the sake of argument) it takes you to upgrade your PS4 hard drive I could upgrade both my 360 and Xbox One hard drives......ten times each. Which goes back to the point you missed.

The point kai123 was making that went over your head completely is that upgrading your Xbox One hard drive is faster and easier than doing the same thing on the PS4. Doesn't mean the PS4 method is difficult, it's just not as quick or easy as the Xbox One's plug and play method. And this was made even more relevant by the fact that he's a PS4 owner and is telling you that it would be easier to simply plug in a larger external hard drive the way you can on an Xbox One as opposed to what he has to do now. Pretty simple to understand.

[kai123]

My point was instead of me buying another internal HDD for my PS4 I could just plug any of my external drives in there and be rocking out in no time at all. I would literally have to do no backups of my current HDD or even grab a screw driver. This isn't something that should be that hard to do and I am surprised MS and Nintendo are the ones to be doing it and not Sony.

All their updates are for social apps and things I don't care about at all. The interface still doesn't let me organize my games the way I want or any of that. This is what happens when you think you are number 1. You stop trying. I mean MS is going to have actual backwards compatibility soon. It's like bizzaro world.

[Gamevet]

Yes you did but we'll get to that in a minute.



Wrong. The 360 has been out since 2005 and up until a few months ago you could not use an external hard drive. You instead had to use internal hard drives, starting from the 20 gb one's from the first version of the 360 all the way up to the 500 gb max hard drives of the slim 360's. So Microsoft's approach to storage between those two systems is vastly different as they've already said that you'll never be able to switch out the internal hard drive of the Xbox One.

That is where you kind of wrong.

I've been using a thumb drive between my two 360 consoles for years! You could use 2 thumb drives up to 32GB each, which was much larger than the 20GB HDD in the older 360s.

http://www.supercheats.com/xbox-360/how-to/how-to-use-a-usb-flash-drive-on-the-xbox-360




Taking a quick glance of youtube video's and how-to guide's on google it looks like it takes a person anywhere from 10 minutes to a half hour on average to change out a PS4 hard drive. Easy? Seems like it but in the 15 minutes(I'm using the medium time for the sake of argument) it takes you to upgrade your PS4 hard drive I could upgrade both my 360 and Xbox One hard drives......ten times each. Which goes back to the point you missed.

Technically, you're just upgrading your storage capacity. The external HDD is easier to do, but not as convenient as having a faster internal HDD, or SSD.

I was pointing out that MS makes it easier with the external HDD, but are kind of being a dick when it comes to having a more permanent internal solution.



The point kai123 was making that went over your head completely is that upgrading your Xbox One hard drive is faster and easier than doing the same thing on the PS4. Doesn't mean the PS4 method is difficult, it's just not as quick or easy as the Xbox One's plug and play method. And this was made even more relevant by the fact that he's a PS4 owner and is telling you that it would be easier to simply plug in a larger external hard drive the way you can on an Xbox One as opposed to what he has to do now. Pretty simple to understand.

Yes, from a convenience standpoint, the external HDD is the better option and it would have been cool if Sony had offered that option with the PS4. Still, it is so easy to replace the internal HDD of the PS4 (much like the PS3) that it's not really an issue, unless you are afraid to turn a few screws and run a firmware update from a thumb drive.

[The 1 2 P]

That is where you kind of wrong.

I've been using a thumb drive between my two 360 consoles for years! You could use 2 thumb drives up to 32GB each, which was much larger than the 20GB HDD in the older 360s.

No I wasn't. Your exact words were:


allowing an external hdd

Like I already mentioned this feature only became available on the 360 a few months ago, which pretty much killed your point about Microsoft doing on the Xbox One what they did on the 360. Furthermore, usb/thumb drives are not hard drives but external storage sources. On the original 360 you could use memory cards and when they took those slots away on the slims they made usb usage available, eventually maxing out the storage at 32gb a slot. Obviously being a 360 owner I knew this but that doesn't change the fact that the usb's you are allowed to use on the 360 are not external hard drives.


The external HDD is easier to do

Come on you can do better than that...


Yes, from a convenience standpoint, the external HDD is the better option

Exactly. All kidding aside I tried not to use the term "better" but instead wanted to focus on the speed, easiness and convenience of using the external hard drive option while trying to emphasize kai123's original post. Speaking of which...


My point was instead of me buying another internal HDD for my PS4 I could just plug any of my external drives in there and be rocking out in no time at all. I would literally have to do no backups of my current HDD or even grab a screw driver. This isn't something that should be that hard to do and I am surprised MS and Nintendo are the ones to be doing it and not Sony.

That's pretty much what I said....kind of. But yeah Sony should have that option as well.


This is what happens when you think you are number 1. You stop trying. I mean MS is going to have actual backwards compatibility soon. It's like bizzaro world.

That's the great thing about competition. It forces everyone to step their game up, especially when they are behind.

[Gamevet]

No I wasn't. Your exact words were:



Like I already mentioned this feature only became available on the 360 a few months ago, which pretty much killed your point about Microsoft doing on the Xbox One what they did on the 360. Furthermore, usb/thumb drives are not hard drives but external storage sources. On the original 360 you could use memory cards and when they took those slots away on the slims they made usb usage available, eventually maxing out the storage at 32gb a slot. Obviously being a 360 owner I knew this but that doesn't change the fact that the usb's you are allowed to use on the 360 are not external hard drives.

It's still external storage. You can replace HDD with SSD, but it's still external storage. Hey, if you want to be semantic about it, you could have used a 32GB external HDD.









Exactly. All kidding aside I tried not to use the term "better" but instead wanted to focus on the speed, easiness and convenience of using the external hard drive option while trying to emphasize kai123's original post. Speaking of which...


It's a better option for convenience, which is what I was saying. My original post was pointing out that it's not that big of a deal with the PS4, because replacing the internal storage drive is really quick (much faster than downloading a game) and easy.

[kupomogli]

My Wii U should have came with physical copies of Super Mario 3D Land and Nintendo Land, but what I ordered and what was shipped wasn't the same, so I have both games installed on the 32GB that Nintendo so graciously included on the system. That being said, I shouldn't ever run out of space on the system.

On PS4, I have The Last of Us, Far Cry 4, Diablo 3, MGS5, Nobunaga's Ambition, Bloodborne, LBP3, Watch Dogs, DMC4 SE, MLB15 The Show, and Sleeping Dogs installed at retail. Digital games, all but two are either from PS+ or free. Towerfall Ascension, Velocity 2X, Stick it to the Man, Resogun, Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate, Pix the Cat, Dust An Elysian Tail, Escape Plan, Contrast, Doki Doki Universe, Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare, Hotline Miami, Hotline Miami 2, Mercenary Kings, Dead Nation, Guacamelee, Payday 2, Outlast, and Spelunky. I also have a lot of the video and music apps. I have 90-100GB left. I have had other retail and digital games installed, but I'm leaving the ones that I'm going to eventually play or the games I play more often. If it doesn't cost much space I'll probably still keep it up there anyway. Even though it reduced the cost of my PS4, I deleted P.T. because I've already finished it and it's not named correctly. It should be named P.O.S. Most of the PS+ games that I have up there and most of my PS+ games I haven't touched. Last months PS+ even though few of indie games interested me, so I'll probably go and download some of those right now.

I have a 32GB card for my Vita and that's always full. I delete stuff and add other stuff, but it's a real hassle not having enough space or not wanting to play anything you have loaded on the system.

[The 1 2 P]

It's still external storage. You can replace HDD with SSD, but it's still external storage. Hey, if you want to be semantic about it, you could have used a 32GB external HDD.

Changing some words around still won't make you right. What you initially said about the Xbox One doing what the 360 did and that the usb's allowed on 360 slims were hard drives was wrong. Period. Just accept it.


replacing the internal storage drive is really quick (much faster than downloading a game)

That would depend on the game. All the F2P games I've downloaded(Smite, Neverwinter, World Of Tanks, etc) have only taken roughly five to ten minutes or so to download. Same thing for some of the other download only games that are not F2P and weigh in at less than 15 gb.

[Gamevet]

Changing some words around still won't make you right. What you initially said about the Xbox One doing what the 360 did and that the usb's allowed on 360 slims were hard drives was wrong. Period. Just accept it.

I linked you to the thumb drive storage story. A 30 GB external HDD would function the same. You're trying to dummy it down, when in fact an HDD, SSD and thumb-drive would all function the same using the USB port on the 360.




That would depend on the game. All the F2P games I've downloaded(Smite, Neverwinter, World Of Tanks, etc) have only taken roughly five to ten minutes or so to download. Same thing for some of the other download only games that are not F2P and weigh in at less than 15 gb.

I'm talking about real games that would fill up your hard drive and make it so you would have to upgrade your storage. A 35GB game will take over a half an hour to download on my 90 meg connection.

[The 1 2 P]

I linked you to the thumb drive storage story. A 30 GB external HDD would function the same. You're trying to dummy it down, when in fact an HDD, SSD and thumb-drive would all function the same using the USB port on the 360.

It's not about them functioning the same way, it's about what you said being wrong. 360's couldn't use external hard drives until after the Xbox One's could(you said it was the other way around=wrong) and initially they were only allowed to use up to 32 gb of flash memory vie a usb(you have some how tried to first say this was equivalent to an external hard drive, which is wrong, and now you are trying to say you really meant to say a 32 hard drive which wouldn't have even worked when they first used usb's because the limit was 16 gb, so wrong again) for years before the other update. What you said(which I already quoted several times) was the complete opposite of what was correct which is the definition of being wrong. Saying "but, but, if you blah blah blah" doesn't change that. You were wrong with both of those statements and everything you've said since while failing to admit you were wrong is only making you embarrass yourself more.

[Gamevet]

It's not about them functioning the same way, it's about what you said being wrong. 360's couldn't use external hard drives until after the Xbox One's could(you said it was the other way around=wrong) and initially they were only allowed to use up to 32 gb of flash memory vie a usb(you have some how tried to first say this was equivalent to an external hard drive, which is wrong, and now you are trying to say you really meant to say a 32 hard drive which wouldn't have even worked when they first used usb's because the limit was 16 gb, so wrong again) for years before the other update. What you said(which I already quoted several times) was the complete opposite of what was correct which is the definition of being wrong. Saying "but, but, if you blah blah blah" doesn't change that. You were wrong with both of those statements and everything you've said since while failing to admit you were wrong is only making you embarrass yourself more.

Bullshit!

You could use up to a 32GB thumb drive (or any other USB drive formatted to Fat-32) as external storage long before the recently released update that allowed for much larger external storage. You can focus on the thumb drive part of it all you want. The fact is still there, that you could use external storage for game files and games. You could never do that on the PS3, except for creating a backup file of your internal hard drive. This conversation is stupid!

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_support/xbox_360_support/f/7/t/534857.aspx

[JSoup]

Not even half of my drive on the PS4. I don't like keeping a bunch of games kicking around if I don't need them, so tend to install one or two games at a time max, deleting either what I'm not playing or have finished.

[The 1 2 P]

Bullshit!

You could use up to a 32GB thumb drive (or any other USB drive formatted to Fat-32) as external storage long before the recently released update that allowed for much larger external storage.

I never said you couldn't. If you actually look at what I said:


which wouldn't have even worked when they first used usb's because the limit was 16 gb


Reading really is FUNdamental. So you go from saying 360's could use external hard drives all along(before Xbox One's did) and, upon learning you were wrong, change that to 32 gb usb's, which they can use but are not hard drives. So upon being pointed out you were wrong again you once again change your argument to 32 gb hard drives. You know you wouldn't have had to flip flop so much if what you said was correct from the start.


You can focus on the thumb drive part of it all you want.

I was focusing on all the things you said from the beginning that were incorrect and usb's was only one aspect of that.


The fact is still there, that you could use external storage for game files and games. You could never do that on the PS3, except for creating a backup file of your internal hard drive.

You could use memory cards on the originals and usb's on the slims. Had you said external storage from the beginning then what you said could have been correct but that's not what you said. And I'm pretty sure the PS3 has nothing to do with this conversation but I'll come back to it anyway.


This conversation is stupid!

I feel the same way about having conversations with people who bring up incorrect info and instead of admitting they are wrong they constantly edit their post, post random links and try and change their entire argument around in an attempt to make themselves seem less wrong. But in the end it just makes them even less reliable than before.

I'd suggest that you should only have these kind of conversations when discussing Sony's systems. At least then you might have a clue as to what you are actually talking about but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Gamevet]

I never said you couldn't. If you actually look at what I said:

I did. This is what you had said.


Wrong. The 360 has been out since 2005 and up until a few months ago you could not use an external hard drive.

The link I had provided, clearly shows that you could use an external HDD, as long as it was formatted to FAT32. I could take the 60GB HDD that I had replaced on my PS3, put it in an external HDD case and use it as an external 32 GB HDD for my 360.





Reading really is FUNdamental. So you go from saying 360's could use external hard drives all along(before Xbox One's did) and, upon learning you were wrong, change that to 32 gb usb's, which they can use but are not hard drives. So upon being pointed out you were wrong again you once again change your argument to 32 gb hard drives. You know you wouldn't have had to flip flop so much if what you said was correct from the start.

I was nowhere near wrong, yet you tried to point back to me saying that I was using a thumb drive for external storage. The link I had provided above clearly shows that an HDD formatted to FAT32 could be used as an external 32GB HDD.

Since you obviously didn't bother to read that link, here you go!

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_support/xbox_360_support/f/7/t/534857.aspx




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You can use any size external HDD with your Xbox 360 but it will format the HDD and only use 32Gb of the total space of the HDD. When you plug in the HDD you will have two options under the "System Settings" menu under "My Xbox." From there, you need to select the appropriate configuration option for your drive. One option erases all data on the drive before formatting it. The other option configures only a limited amount of space for Xbox 360 use, leaving any data on the drive untouched.


The Xbox 360 console can only support up to 2 USB keys with 32 GB capacity each.

[The 1 2 P]

The link I had provided....

Do you think I would click on some shady link from someone so delusional that instead of admitting he's wrong goes and backtracks a dozen times while constantly changing his story to try and make it appear like he knows what he's talking about? That was rhetorical and I know all there is to know about the 360's storage history. You'll the one that has no idea what you are talking about, made even more apparent with each thing you post.


I was nowhere near wrong

Really? Let's see how this all started.


MS is pretty much doing what they did with the 360, by allowing an external HDD

So before the update earlier this year Microsoft "allowed"(using your very own words for emphasis) 360 owners to use external hard drives? No they did not. That's not just near wrong that's infinitely wrong. I could have quoted more examples but since that was your first reply to me it was only fitting. Because that reply was wrong and every reply after was more wrong than the one before it as you kept flip flopping to change your story. You must really love that edit button.

[Tron 2.0]

Wii-U i have no idea though i haven't played any thing on it in months.Though i've heard xenoblade chronicles x will use allot of memory,probably that game will fill up it's memory usage.Maybe half on the PS4 given how much the games,console have a update.

[Gamevet]

Do you think I would click on some shady link from someone so delusional that instead of admitting he's wrong goes and backtracks a dozen times while constantly changing his story to try and make it appear like he knows what he's talking about?



I'm not changing my story at all dumbass.

The link I had provided was the official Xbox 360 forums of Microsoft.

If you can't understand how external storage works, that's on you. Don't pretend like you know something that everyone else doesn't know and then get all pissy when you're proven wrong from the beginning. MS introduced the external storage option when they had released the 4 GB Xbox 360. It doesn't matter that it was only up to 32 GB, it was external storage loooooooong before MS did the update that offered much larger external storage options.

[BetaWolf]

I've got zero hard drive space left on my Wii U. True story. My Wii U doesn't have any hard drive space. It has flash memory.

[Leo_A]

Once I delete some demos, I'll have approximately 18 gigs free on my Wii U. Then when Fatal Frame 5 appears, I'll have about two gigs to play with.

Since I foresee difficulties with that small amount, I'd like to try to see about an external SSD solution to give me at least 25 gigs of additional space. That will undoubtedly provide me with plenty of space for any future uses on this platform thanks to buying retail instead of digital.

[dendawg]

I've got zero hard drive space left on my Wii U. True story. My Wii U doesn't have any hard drive space. It has flash memory.

Then that makes it a solid state hard drive, since they use flash memory also.

[The 1 2 P]

I'm not changing my story at all

You have at least half a dozen post and at least a dozen edits that prove otherwise. Saying something different from post to post(external hard drive, thumb drive, generic external storage) to try and cover your tracks equals changing your story. Most people with basic levels of common sense understand this pretty clearly.


when you're proven wrong

The only thing you've proven is A) you don't know what you are talking about and B) you can't accept when you are wrong. Not even multiple google searches can cure you of that.

[Tanooki]

Been seeing this topic still go, I think another viable thing to add to the main topic would be Android device. My shield tablet (as does their microconsole and others too) will take a micro SD card up to like 128 or 256GB. Space is a premium as many of them that come out these days since they're packing more oomph they're not all offering the larger 32GB option anymore, usually capped at 16GB with the option to slot a card in for more. I can't afford to buy one right now and I'm sure I'm running up against my 16GB cap.

[The 1 2 P]

Now that you bought that up I hadn't thought of the limits to the actual storage you can use. From what I've read the Wii U can only use up to 2 tb of maximum external storage and the Xbox One need's a minimum of 256 GB but I didn't see a maximum limit so perhaps it can go as high as the largest external hard drives available. As for what I read on the PS4 I've seen most people say they use either a 2, 3, or 4 tb hard drive upgrade but there was one thread where someone said he used up to 6 tb in his PS4. The Wii U's limit is obviously smaller but it probably doesn't matter much since the game sizes are most likely smaller than those found on Xbox One and PS4.

[Gamevet]

You have at least half a dozen post and at least a dozen edits that prove otherwise. Saying something different from post to post(external hard drive, thumb drive, generic external storage) to try and cover your tracks equals changing your story. Most people with basic levels of common sense understand this pretty clearly.

My edits had nothing to do with changing my story. I didn't edit those posts, after you had replied. I edited them before you did.




The only thing you've proven is A) you don't know what you are talking about and B) you can't accept when you are wrong. Not even multiple google searches can cure you of that.

No, you've proven that you are too stupid to use the internet. A quick google search of Xbox 360 external HDD(storage)will give you 100s of sources that were posted looooong before the recent update by Microsoft that allowed the 360 to have much larger external storage; That is why I called the conversation stupid. You didn't even bother to look before you posted, were totally wrong and then tried to belittle me by calling my post silly. The ignorance is on you, not me.

[JSoup]

A quick google search of Xbox 360 external HDD(storage)will give you 100s of sources that were posted looooong before the recent update by Microsoft that allowed the 360 to have much larger external storage

That's not what I'm finding when I use that exact search term. All the results are either Microsoft site help articles, tech blogs repeating what the help articles are saying or posts to various forums from the last five months (this makes up the majority of the results I'm seeing), with one first page exception being from last year that only appears as a result because it was responded to recently. This is discounting the results that are actually about the XBox One.

I'm not finding any sources that implicitly indicate that the 360 could use external HDs from earlier September of this year. All the results from earlier this year are all about them rolling it out in beta test form (http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_360_is_getting_external_hard_drive_support.ht ml).

How about we stop this wall of text fight and get to the point. Gamevet, you say The 1 2 P is wrong. Show us the proof. Don't say "it's there, just look stupid" like you've been doing, link it here or drop it.

Edit: And before you point out your link from earlier in the topic, that's about official 360 thumb drives, not external HDs.

[Gamevet]

That's not what I'm finding when I use that exact search term. All the results are either Microsoft site help articles, tech blogs repeating what the help articles are saying or posts to various forums from the last five months (this makes up the majority of the results I'm seeing), with one first page exception being from last year that only appears as a result because it was responded to recently. This is discounting the results that are actually about the XBox One.

I'm not finding any sources that implicitly indicate that the 360 could use external HDs from earlier September of this year. All the results from earlier this year are all about them rolling it out in beta test form (http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_360_is_getting_external_hard_drive_support.ht ml).

How about we stop this wall of text fight and get to the point. Gamevet, you say The 1 2 P is wrong. Show us the proof. Don't say "it's there, just look stupid" like you've been doing, link it here or drop it.

Edit: And before you point out your link from earlier in the topic, that's about official 360 thumb drives, not external HDs.

I had already provided a link to a forum discussion from 2013, that was posted on Microsoft's official Xbox 360 forums. He totally ignored it and went on about thumb drives.

You could pretty much create a 32 GB partition on an external HDD, format it to FAT32 and use that a storage on the Xbox 360. The other partition can be formatted to NTFS and you can use it for storage with another device. It wasn't that difficult, was it?

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_support/xbox_360_support/f/7/t/534857.aspx

[Niku-Sama]

20 some gigs on my 32 GB Wii u

[JSoup]

I had already provided a link to a forum discussion from 2013, that was posted on Microsoft's official Xbox 360 forums. He totally ignored it and went on about thumb drives.

That topic you linked to is about thumb drives, which is why it keeps being said.
Thumb drives are not hard drives, which is the point you just refuse to acknowledge.
You are the wrong one here.

[Gamevet]

That topic you linked to is about thumb drives, which is why it keeps being said.
Thumb drives are not hard drives, which is the point you just refuse to acknowledge.
You are the wrong one here.

The heading of that forum thread was external HDDs. The guy was asking about using an external HDD with his Xbox 360. He was not asking about using a thumb drive.

Here's part of the discussion.


This will work, but there are some caveats.



The 360 requires whatever USB storage device you plan to use for a USB Memory Unit to be partitioned/formatted as FAT32. While the 360 can do this, it's not very smart about it. You'll end up with one gigantic FAT32 volume. It will then carve out a 32GB USB Memory Unit and leave the rest untouched.



FAT32 as a file system is limited to creating files no larger than 4GB, so if you're manually dragging and dropping files onto the free space of the drive you're limited to files of 4GB or less. The upside is that since the drive is FAT32, the 360 can read whatever media you put on it using the appropriate media player (video, music, pictures).



An alternative is to partition the drive into two volumes, one primary FAT32 partition, and one NTFS partition. If you use Windows to do this, you'll end up with a USB Memory Unit of around 31.5GB. This is because Windows is limited to creating FAT32 partitions of no larger than 32GB. The 360 will reserve some space for system usage. That will cut down on available user capacity. There will also be no free space on the partition afterward. If you use a third party utility to create the FAT32 partition and make it, say, 40GB, you'll have some extra space for storage of some media files, system updates, and still have a full 32GB USB Memory Unit. The rest of the drive can be partitioned/formatted as NTFS, which has a maximum file size in the TB range.

[JSoup]

The heading of that forum thread was external HDDs. The guy was asking about using an external HDD with his Xbox 360. He was not asking about using a thumb drive.

If you actually read the entire thread, he's corrected that no, HDDs can't be used, but thumb drives can.

[Gamevet]

If you actually read the entire thread, he's corrected that no, HDDs can't be used, but thumb drives can.

He wasn't corrected. He was pointing out that only one 32 GB partition can be used for game storage. You could use much larger external HDDs for media like movies and music.


You can play media off of larger drives, but you can't use them to store Xbox content like games and profiles. Using it for that purpose is limited to 32GB formatted sections.

So, you could pretty much use the external HDD for gamer profiles and downloadable games that do not exceed the 4GB limit of the FAT32 format. If you were a 360 owner that had an internal 20GB or 60GB HDD and were running out of HDD space, you could move your downloadable games like Pinball Arcade, Pac-Man CE and REZ HD over to your external HDD to free up space. While a PS3 owner could not use an external HDD to do that, and would have to upgrade the internal HDD instead.

[JSoup]

Edit: Ok, you know what, no, I'm not playing this 'no u' troll game. Gamevet wants to pretend he's right, let him.

[Gamevet]

Edit: Ok, you know what, no, I'm not playing this 'no u' troll game. Gamevet wants to pretend he's right, let him.


How am I pretending to be right?

The thread clearly shows that the guy was asking about using an external HDD and he was given an answer. There was no mention of a thumb drive in that thread.

The answer was to create a partition (32 GB) so that he could use it as an external storage device for his 360. This is not complicated.

[Mayhem]

I'm gonna do a "calm down calm down" here, and restrain from locking the thread yet unless people refuse to behave.

[The 1 2 P]

My edits had nothing to do with changing my story.

You knew you were wrong so you constantly went back and changed what you posted. Those weren't spelling edits, they were "Gamevet is wrong" edits. How many times do I need to remind you of your first reply to me? You were wrong....period.



No, you've proven that you are too stupid to use the internet.

Says the fucktard who even after using the internet still can't prove he's right. If you were athletic I bet you'd jog backwards as well while telling people that they are just looking in the wrong direction.



Edit: Ok, you know what, no, I'm not playing this 'no u' troll game. Gamevet wants to pretend he's right, let him.

Tell me about it. He thinks that if he keeps changing what he originally said with his constant edits that he'll somehow be proven right. If he had any common sense, which he has thus proven otherwise, he'd know that's not how things work.



How am I pretending to be right?

If you could read(and I am in serious doubt at this point) you have two pages of this thread and probably most of your DP post to answer that question.

[BlastProcessing402]

When USB drives were enabled on the 360, they had two ways to do it, either wipe a whole drive and use it entirely for 360 saving OR take an existing FAT drive and create some proprietary files on it to use as 360 storage while retaining your existing non-MS data on the drive. The 1st option was obviously wasteful if your drive was over 16GB (the original limit) but you could still do it if you wanted. The 2nd option, which was admittedly slightly hidden and not intuitive to figure out was much better, and absolutely could be used on any FAT drive using a USB interface.

I've been using the 2nd option on my 1TB USB hard drive ever since the USB option became available, YEARS before anyone had even started PLANNING XBone, let alone released it. I still use it, and I haven't even updated my 360 since they removed the 32GB limit.

There's never been a time when you could use thumbdrives but not hard drives, that's ludicrous, the 360 can't even tell the difference since the USB interface just obfuscates all that stuff so a thumb drive looks like an external hard drive looks like an sd card in a usb adapter to the system.


ETA: http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/system/system-update-operating-system

OS version: 2.0.17349.0

DASHBOARD: 2.0.17349.0

Release date

4/30/2015

New or updated features

Larger external USB hard drives

Plug in any external USB hard drive up to 2 TB to store your Xbox 360 downloads, profile, saved games and other data.
If you previously set up an external USB hard drive that’s larger than 32 GB, you’ll need to reformat the drive to use the additional space.

Bolding mine. Now how could you have previously set up an external USB hard drive if those couldn't be used? Witchcraft, that must be it.

[The 1 2 P]

I'm gonna do a "calm down calm down" here, and restrain from locking the thread yet unless people refuse to behave.

Or you can kick Gameamateur out and let the thread go back to what it was before he derailed it: how much hard drive space do current gen console users have. The choice is your's but I'd prefer that over outright locking it.

[Mayhem]

Well, too late, use of the word "fucktard" means a ten yard penalty, fourth down.