PS2 through component - worth bothering with?

[Az]

For years I had 2 TV's set up for gaming: a 25 inch CRT SDTV in the game room and a 52 inch projection HDTV in the living room. The HDTV was bought in '02 when HDTV was just rearing its' head so it only does 480p/1080i through component (no HDMI) and being the room it's located in I kept only my Wii and 360 hooked up to it. Through the magic of daisy chained switchers and surge protectors I managed to hook up every other system I owned to the CRT (which was about 9 or 10).

I moved a few years ago and came across a cheap 22 inch LCD and set it up right next to the ol' CRT. I've got 4 or 5 consoles hooked up to it but still have the PS2 hooked to the CRT via composite. Am I better off leaving that as is, or is it worth the change to component cables on the HDTV? Hardly any games at all take advantage of it, and those I've seen that do all require some unique hidden code on bootup to run in 480p. I mostly play fighters and other 2d centric stuff and very rarely play some PS2 exclusive 3d games.

[celerystalker]

I tried it a bit, but I prefer PS2 on a CRT.

[Niku-Sama]

yea PS2 is better on the crt.
theres only a handful of games that support any thing more than 480 and if I remember correctly none of them were anything special
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_games_with_alternate_display _modes

[Aussie2B]

Versus composite? Hell yes, definitely go with component. Now, if we were talking s-video on a CRT, then it's a toss-up. The PS2 kind of annoyingly straddles that line where some games I prefer how they look on my HDTV with component and some I prefer on my CRT with s-video.

[davidbrit2]

There is a HUGE difference between composite and component, even without HDTV resolutions. The difference between s-video and component isn't as drastic as composite to s-video, but there's still an improvement in color.

That said, it's hard to say what it'll look like on the LCD. My experience with NTSC component signals on LCD HDTVs has been that they tend to look muddy, and you've also got input lag to deal with. I say at least give it a shot and see what you think, and worst case scenario, now you've got the component cables on hand in case you find a good CRT with component inputs, which will definitely be a massive improvement.

[lendelin]

The answer is: Component on a CRT!!

The vast majority of PS2 games look just better on a standard TV, but by all means use a crt TV with component video input. Even compared with s-video (not to mention composite) the picture quality (in particular color saturation, but also sharpness and contrast) is much better.

I have a PS2 connected to the HDTV, but also a second one to a CRT (both via component), and for almost all the games I use the CRT. I'll get even a second Xbox to connect to a CRT (again: with component cables). These consoles fall in the transition phase CRTs-HDTVs, so some games look just fantastic (Quantum Redshift) and some games look awful (Colin McRae 3 for the Xbox) on a HDTV. The best console for HDTVs is the Xbox, then comes the GameCube, and then the PS2. However, if you have component cables for the GC (in the meantime around $200, unfortunately) and use the little B-button trick, the GC is fantastic on a HDTV! Almost all great games play in 480p, even on bigger HDTVs the picture quality is first class.

Component input is not just for HDTVs, it was used for CRTs before HDTVs were on the market. So...buy some cheap component cables for the PS2 and connect it to your CRT, your eyes and game brain will be very thankful. :)

[Leo_A]

Like was just said, component on a PS2 doesn't mean that you're not playing on a CRT. The topic isn't even asking what type of tv you prefer to play PS2 titles on.

Component inputs were virtually standard to such a degree that they were easily found on even the smallest budget sets from generic sounding firms during the final years of CRT production. In fact, try finding a CRT with a 2000's manufacturing date that doesn't offer the option. You'll quickly see just how universal component video was on late model CRT's.

For me playing PS2 titles on a standard definition Trinitron from 2005 or so, I see a noticeable improvement over S-Video. While I don't see the improved color saturation that others apparently experience, I see noticeably less color bleeding, annoying moire patterns go from greatly reduced over S-Video to being completely extinct over component, text is sharper, etc.

And if you're upgrading from composite, it's certainly well worth the $10.

[theclaw]

For the most consistent experience, forget widescreen. Few PS2 games use it effectively.

Try seeking a component CRT that does not accept 480p. You don't need image processing on traditional 2D games with a set the correct size relative to viewing distance.

[eskobar]

If you play fighters and 2D games the difference is huge ... much less compression and better color rendering with component inputs on crt or lcd. The ability to use 480p is great but even for 240p or 480i it is very noticeable when you have component video.

[Aussie2B]

Component inputs were virtually standard to such a degree that they were easily found on even the smallest budget sets from generic sounding firms during the final years of CRT production. In fact, try finding a CRT with a 2000's manufacturing date that doesn't offer the option. You'll quickly see just how universal component video was on late model CRT's.

Are we talking US TVs here? Because I don't think component inputs on CRTs are as commonplace as you're making them out to be. I have a large CRT from 2003 that wasn't the cheapest possible set you can get back then either, and it offers nothing better than s-video. Never knew any family or friends who had a set with component input either until everybody switched over to HDTVs.

And if Az isn't even using s-video on his CRT, I doubt it supports component. The question at hand isn't if he should go out and buy an entirely new CRT.

[WCP]

You know, if you have a PS1 rgb cable it will work just fine with a PS2. I would mostly play PS2 games via RGB, but there are a handful of PS2 games that legitimately have progressive scan 480p output. Not very many of them, but a few...

For those games, I would use component and take advantage of the progressive scan..

[Leo_A]

What does RGB offer that component doesn't?


Are we talking US TVs here?

Yes

I've yet to have seen one without component capabilities. I bought several new mid-range sets since something like a Trinitron was much too expensive when they were new, including spending a lot of time researching my options back then at my local Wal-Mart each time and checking reviews and forums online to learn about each model in my price range. Component video capabilities were extremely commonplace.

And during the 2000's I also purchased 3 or 4 of whatever the cheapest 13" CRT's were at Wal-Mart, several from cheap sounding names like Qazar, Daewoo, and so on for bedroom tv's and the kitchen (Including the last CRT that I ever saw there new back around 2012). Every last one to a tee had component video capabilities despite me not even bothering to check to see if they had that option each time.

I hardly think it was luck of the draw that my experiences over a half dozen purchases over a 10 year span in the 2000's worked out this way. It was very much unlike in the 1990's, such as my first new tv of my own in 1995 that was a 13" Emerson model that didn't even offer composite video (let alone anything superior like S-Video or component).

What model tv is it that you got stuck with from 2003 without this feature?


And if Az isn't even using s-video on his CRT, I doubt it supports component. The question at hand isn't if he should go out and buy an entirely new CRT.

I don't know and it's besides the point.

The entire purpose of my post was that component doesn't equal HDTV. Just because someone expressed the thought that component video cables for the PS2 are worth their cheap price doesn't mean that they're advocating that the original poster should leave standard definition CRT's behind. And while we can debate how common this feature was on such sets, it was still a feature that wasn't difficult to locate.

So they're not mutually exclusive and if one has the option to utilize component video capabilities for their PS2 on whatever their tv may be, I say spend the $10 for the cables. The only reason one might not want to is if it's a HDTV and they regularly play PS1 titles on their PS2. While the issue doesn't seem nearly as commonplace now. many people haven't been able to display 240p sources through component on their HDTV (Something that a fair number of Ico purchases discovered to their dismay).

In that instance and if it was me, I'd personally save myself the hassle of cable switching and just use S-Video to maximize compatibility (Or better yet, utilize a standalone PS1 for older software or just play them on a PS3).

[kainemaxwell]

Definitely go for it.

[Graham Mitchell]

Component's gonna be the best choice either way you go, but I find that because of the interlacing a lot of games look smeary on my LED for some reason. It's mostly with PS2 games, PS1 games look fine. If the game has a progressive scan mode it's better.

[Bratwurst]

What model tv is it that you got stuck with from 2003 without this feature?

I have a Sharp 25 inch CRT (25C340) that was manufactured sometime in 2005 / 2006, lacks component, only has S-video and composite inputs. They exist, but they're uncommon.

I decased it and use it as the monitor for my arcade cabinet. Feeding a de-interlaced 240p signal into it, even with just S-Video, the image looks great.

Incidentally do you remember the general MSRP of Trinitrons back then?

[Leo_A]

Well past $500 as I recall, for modest sizes like 20" CRT's that once were the norm in people's living rooms. For the giants, you'd be looking well into the 4 digits just like with today's top of the line HDTV's. There's still review sources online where you could input a popular model and likely see the original MSRP quoted, which I've successfully done a few times to research potential Craigslist purchases now that Trinitrons are a viable choice for someone on a budget.

Either way with component on SD CRT's, it at the very least wasn't difficult to find and was/is definitely an option for the purists that believes a non-HD game console looks best on such technology but wants to take advantage of the best video quality option for systems like the PS2.

[CRTGAMER]

Well past $500 as I recall, for modest sizes like 20" CRT's that once were the norm in people's living rooms. For the giants, you'd be looking well into the 4 digits just like with today's top of the line HDTV's. There's still review sources online where you could input a popular model and likely see the original MSRP quoted, which I've successfully done a few times to research potential Craigslist purchases now that Trinitrons are a viable choice for someone on a budget.

Either way with component on SD CRT's, it at the very least wasn't difficult to find and was/is definitely an option for the purists that believes a non-HD game console looks best on such technology but wants to take advantage of the best video quality option for systems like the PS2.

True definitely go component. The best picture of course will be on an HD CRT (such as the WEGA series with 1080i tubes) to get 480p for select PS2 games. God Of War on the PS2 looks so much better utilizing the console 480p mode on the HD CRT. There are even a PS2 few games that offer 1080i mode, no upscaler needed.

[Gameguy]

Well past $500 as I recall, for modest sizes like 20" CRT's that once were the norm in people's living rooms. For the giants, you'd be looking well into the 4 digits just like with today's top of the line HDTV's. There's still review sources online where you could input a popular model and likely see the original MSRP quoted, which I've successfully done a few times to research potential Craigslist purchases now that Trinitrons are a viable choice for someone on a budget.
If you went for a Sony or Toshiba TV from that time period, there would be component inputs pretty much guaranteed. I have a Toshiba 13" TV from about then that has component inputs. I agree that they were common at that time period.

If anyone is reading other threads I've replied to and wondering why I'm not using this 13" TV with component inputs as my main set currently, it's partly because there's a scratch in the glass on the tube, and that I don't like flat tube CRTs much as images look slightly distorted to me. We're using the same 13" TV we've been using regularly since 1997, with just coaxial inputs.

[Gamevet]

I have a Sharp 25 inch CRT (25C340) that was manufactured sometime in 2005 / 2006, lacks component, only has S-video and composite inputs. They exist, but they're uncommon.

I decased it and use it as the monitor for my arcade cabinet. Feeding a de-interlaced 240p signal into it, even with just S-Video, the image looks great.

Incidentally do you remember the general MSRP of Trinitrons back then?

I believe the Trinitron name was retired around that time. My 27" Trinitron in 1995 was $500. I picked up a 27" Wega in 2004 for @ $400, and it had component.

[Leo_A]

Were those on sale or a model that had been replaced in their line? Not as expensive sounding as I recall for decent size Trinitrons.

[Niku-Sama]

wega I think is what your looking for if I am understanding you correctly

[Gameguy]

Sony started making Trinitrons, then when they started making flat CRTs the names were changed to Trinitron Wega, and when they started making flat panel TVs that weren't CRTs they were just Wegas. Eventually the Wega name was replaced with Bravia in 2005. This is as best as I understand it.

The Trinitron name didn't disappear until CRTs were discontinued, there were a few different names for Trinitron flat CRTs besides Wega too.

Trinitron Super Fine Pitch---------1440x1080i
Trinitron Hi-Scan------------------853x1080i
Trinitron WEGA 16:9 Enhanced--480i
Trinitron WEGA--------------------480i

Several Trinitron Super Fine Pitch models were made 4:3 aspect ratios too, not just 16:9.

[Niku-Sama]

don't forget HR Trinitron on monitors and some oddball displays
and not all Trinitron were completely flat either.
older ones stull had a curve in them but it peaked from top to bottom in the center instead of peaking at one point right in the middle like most CRTs

[Bratwurst]

older ones stull had a curve in them but it peaked from top to bottom in the center instead of peaking at one point right in the middle like most CRTs

Which is why most of them are so ridiculously heavy for their display size.

[Gamevet]

There is a HUGE difference between composite and component, even without HDTV resolutions. The difference between s-video and component isn't as drastic as composite to s-video, but there's still an improvement in color.

That said, it's hard to say what it'll look like on the LCD. My experience with NTSC component signals on LCD HDTVs has been that they tend to look muddy, and you've also got input lag to deal with. I say at least give it a shot and see what you think, and worst case scenario, now you've got the component cables on hand in case you find a good CRT with component inputs, which will definitely be a massive improvement.


Sony started making Trinitrons, then when they started making flat CRTs the names were changed to Trinitron Wega, and when they started making flat panel TVs that weren't CRTs they were just Wegas. Eventually the Wega name was replaced with Bravia in 2005. This is as best as I understand it.

The Trinitron name didn't disappear until CRTs were discontinued, there were a few different names for Trinitron flat CRTs besides Wega too.

Trinitron Super Fine Pitch---------1440x1080i
Trinitron Hi-Scan------------------853x1080i
Trinitron WEGA 16:9 Enhanced--480i
Trinitron WEGA--------------------480i

Several Trinitron Super Fine Pitch models were made 4:3 aspect ratios too, not just 16:9.

Yeah, they were Trinitrons, but the name was dropped from the front of the televisions and the color was changed from black to silver. My 32" Hi-scan CRT just has Wega on the top left corner. Edit* My 27" Wega does have Trinitron written in the lower left corner, along with SRS and BRB.*

The 1st true flat television from Sony, that I recall, was refered to as FD Trinitron and then Sony used the name Wega the following year to represent their true-flat lineup of CRTs.

[CRTGAMER]

The Trinitron name has been around since the 70s, I remember seeing the Sony TVs back then when I was a kid way before flat CRTs came out. Here is the Wiki info:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitron

Trinitron is Sony's brand name for its line of aperture-grille-based CRTs used in television sets and computer displays. One of the first truly new television systems to enter the market since the 1950s, the Trinitron was announced in 1968 to wide acclaim for its bright images, about 25% brighter than common shadow mask televisions of the same era. Constant improvement in the basic technology and attention to overall quality allowed Sony to charge a premium for Trinitron devices into the 1990s.[citation needed]

Patent protection on the basic Trinitron design ran out in 1996, and it quickly faced a number of competitors at much lower prices. Sony responded by introducing their flat-screen FD Trinitron designs (WEGA), which maintained their premier position in the market into the early 2000s. However, these designs were surpassed relatively quickly by plasma and LCD designs. Sony removed the last Trinitron televisions from their product catalogs in 2006, and ceased production in early 2008. Video monitors are the only remaining Trinitron products being produced by Sony, at a low production rate, although the basic technology can still be found in downmarket televisions from third parties.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Trinitron.jpg/640px-Trinitron.jpg


Yeah, they were Trinitrons, but the name was dropped from the front of the televisions and the color was changed from black to silver. My 32" Hi-scan CRT just has Wega on the top left corner. Edit* My 27" Wega does have Trinitron written in the lower left corner, along with SRS and BRB.
As to the Trinitron logo drop, the later model WEGAs do have Trinitron on them. I own two WEGA HD KV-32HS500 CRTs and one of the very last of the Sony Flat Tubes, a KD-27FS170. All have the Trinitron logo. The KD flat tube series built in 2006 are very unique SD TVs with 1080i tube and separate analog and digital broadcast tuners! Even though a 1080i tube, it only supports a 480i signal. However, everything looks so crisp as if in a higher resolution, no scanlines whatsoever. The digital broadcast and component input really look HD quality! 8-)

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[Gamevet]

The Trinitron name has been around since the 70s, I remember seeing the Sony TVs back then when I was a kid way before flat CRTs came out. Here is the Wiki info:




As to the Trinitron logo drop, the later model WEGAs do have Trinitron on them. I own two WEGA HD KV-32HS500 CRTs and one of the very last of the Sony Flat Tubes, a KD-27FS170. All have the Trinitron logo. The KD flat tube series built in 2006 are very unique SD TVs with 1080i tube and separate analog and digital broadcast tuners! Even though a 1080i tube, it only supports a 480i signal. However, everything looks so crisp as if in a higher resolution, no scanlines whatsoever. The digital broadcast and component input really look HD quality! 8-)


Yeah, I remember seeing those old wood grained Sony Trinitrons in the early 80s.

I have a Sony Wega KV-27FS120 that was built in June 0f 2004. It has the small Trinitron logo on the bottom left corner, along with SRS and BRB. The Wega badge is in the upper left corner, where the word Trinitron would be on the older sets. My 1995 set is a KV-27S15; it has the Trinitron moniker in the upper left corner. My 32" set is the Sony KV-32HS420; it just has the Wega moniker in the upper left hand corner and an Energy Star sticker in the lower left corner. Man, I really love that Hi-scan set. Playing Xbox and Gamecube games in 480p on it is the ideal way to go.

Speaking of the old KV-27S15. Do you know if Sony, or any other 3rd party manufacturer, still sells parts for those sets? I need to replace the tuner board on it.

[Bratwurst]

Speaking of the old KV-27S15. Do you know if Sony, or any other 3rd party manufacturer, still sells parts for those sets? I need to replace the tuner board on it.

I think your best bet is going to be eBay. A lot of defunct electronic supply shops have thrown their old stock up for sale. Stock up on spare flybacks while you can, also anything tied to the horizontal supply line of the flyback (transistors, etc) as those tend to get taken out when the transformer dies.

[Niku-Sama]

You guys are reminding me i gotta pop a tube TV i bought recently open and fix the "flyback lines". They aren't any one color and over all brightness is way too high so it seems like it's just high on the crt voltage.

Should probably get insulated drivers before tackling that eh?

[Az]

Thanks for everyone's input on this. I decided to leave the PS2 hooked up to the CRT but upgrade from composite to component cables to hopefully improve the picture.

The TV I'm using has both component and s-video besides composite inputs but I never switched over to either due to laziness. I had recently swapped out from a previous RCA 25 inch that only had composite inputs. Although this new TV had component and s-video inputs everything shared the same audio input jacks, plus the A/V switchboxes I were using were composite only, so I basically just unplugged everything when changing TV's and plugged it back in as-is.

I have some extra switchboxes that use both s-video and component so this weekend I'm going to wade through this rats nest of wires and redo the hookups for everything. When it's all said and done I'll be upgrading the PS2 to composite and the PS1, SNES, and 3DO to s-video. Got looking into alternatives for the Dreamcast and ordered a VGA cable to move it to the HDTV. After some quick research I realized that only a tiny fraction of DC games aren't VGA compatible (I thought it was much larger) and found that while VGA boxes are still expensive just VGA cables are dirt cheap.

Regarding a previous mention of GC hookup, I was truly amazed how great Mario Kart Double Dash looked in 480p with my Wii on this little HDTV.

Some questions about PS2 component hookup: will PS1 games still output video over them? If I need some Guncon action can I hook it into one of the component jacks or will I need to swap back to composite?

[davidbrit2]

Yup, PS1 games will display in component on a PS2. For GunCon games, plug the gun into the green lead (that's where the sync signal lives).

Also, make sure you configure the PS2 for Y/Pb/Pr and not RGB in the system settings. The picture will be all kinds of screwed up if you set it to RGB.

[CRTGAMER]

The TV I'm using has both component and s-video besides composite inputs but I never switched over to either due to laziness. I had recently swapped out from a previous RCA 25 inch that only had composite inputs. Although this new TV had component and s-video inputs everything shared the same audio input jacks, plus the A/V switchboxes I were using were composite only, so I basically just unplugged everything when changing TV's and plugged it back in as-is.

I have some extra switchboxes that use both s-video and component so this weekend I'm going to wade through this rats nest of wires and redo the hookups for everything. When it's all said and done I'll be upgrading the PS2 to composite and the PS1, SNES, and 3DO to s-video.

Some questions about PS2 component hookup: will PS1 games still output video over them? If I need some Guncon action can I hook it into one of the component jacks or will I need to swap back to composite?
Make and Model Number of CRT?

PS1 Games will display thru the PS2 for any of the cable hookups. Best to play the PS1 games thru a PS1 console if you want the PS2 to last. The first thing that fails in a PS2 disc drive is losing capability of reading CDs such as the blue PS2 game discs and PS1 discs. This leads me to believe those discs put the most strain on the reader tracking.

Once you hookup the PS2 with Component, try the 480p mode (for supported games see Wiki list) by holding the TRIANGLE and X buttons on bootup. I doubt your TV supports 480p (especially if the lightgun works), but does not hurt to try. Even at 480i mode, the Component will look much better then Composite.

If your switchbox has Composite, SVideo and Component you can run all the cables matched for each console and TV input. If not, just get a second switchbox for the Composite leads. Even though the TV with the separate inputs are shared, you can make it work by only turning on one console at a time and switched "on" at the switch box. This beats unplugging/plugging cables in risking damaging the jacks, especially the fragile SVideo connection.

[Bratwurst]

I recommend the Philips SWS2821T17 as a switchbox. Component, s-vid, composite, can be set to automatically switch between four separate devices or you can set it to manual selection. Relatively inexpensive now if you're patient.

[Az]

Make and Model Number of CRT?

Sansui 27' DVT2798, made Sept 2008, I picked it up that December as a gift for my stepson. When we put a flatscreen in his room two or three years ago I got this and swapped it out for my old RCA CRT that had my older consoles hooked to it. Since I already had all the switchboxes and everything hooked up using composite only I never bothered to upgrade any connections until now. I managed to get everything hooked up last night.

PS2 + component - Gigantic difference. Everything is much, much more sharp and crisp, colors seem more vibrant and defined with a significant amount of color bleed now gone.

PS1 + S-Video - Colors seem more crisp and defined, less color bleed especially on 2D graphics and text. I was able to still use the Guncon on this since the cable I'm using is a combination S-Video/composite cable, and I just stuck the Guncon cord into the unused composite out (which is hooked to nothing). Alternatively I could use this cord with my 1001 console and stick the Guncon video cord directly into the composite out on the back of the console and use the A/V out for the S-Video cable.

SNES + S-Video - Not as big a leap as the two Playstation consoles, but I could instantly see that pixels are more defined and less blurry than they were before.

3DO + S-Video - Notice a subtle amount of pixel definition gained, but being that I only play three games on this (all 2D fighters) and haven't had this hooked up long I really couldn't form an educated opinion on the difference.

Wish that Dreamcast VGA cable would hurry and arrive as I'm chomping at the bit to test it out.

[Niku-Sama]

Wow that's a pretty recent CRT. Probably one of the last few on mass market. Being sansui i am guessing you bought it a Walmart?

Any way I'm wondering if you have VGA if hooking up the ps1 with the ps2 component cable to a rca to VGA adapter and then pulled h and v sync out of the system if it would look good.

Also look into component mods for the SNES. They are pretty darn good

[Greg2600]

I have a Samsung 27" CRT from the early 2000's. Not a Sony but does the job.

[CRTGAMER]

Sansui 27' DVT2798, made Sept 2008.

Wish that Dreamcast VGA cable would hurry and arrive as I'm chomping at the bit to test it out.

http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-c948/k2-_aaee502f-0b74-4486-bf20-f4905353951b.v1.jpg

Looks like a good SD CRT. Has a digital tuner off off the air broadcast, give it a try!

Try the Dreamcast with SVideo on the Sansui. You can then play House of the Dead with Lightguns. Another option (though would be a smaller screen) is to pick up a VGA CRT monitor. yes the Lightguns will work!

[SparTonberry]

As to component being on low-end CRTs in the 2000s... eh.

My current CRT is a Samsung. I want to say about 20" and I want to say I bought it new for like $150 in 2003.
Only has composite input... and mono at that.

[Leo_A]

I got lucky with a half dozen tv sets of different brands and all bought new for $200 or less, including several sub $100 13" sets from manufacturers that one definitely doesn't think of when they hear Sony, Samsung, etc.

It happens I suppose and my experiences definitely doesn't mean that the feature was commonplace since it's hardly a scientific survey of the state of CRT production during its final stages earlier this century. So I apologize for essentially saying so and potentially misleading Digital Press, in light of subsequent responses since my original post from other members that had very different experiences and impressions of that time.

I shouldn't of spoken about my experience in that way and made the assumption that it was likely indicative of the state of the CRT market during that time period. Particularly when the sole purpose of my post was to state my preference for component output out of my PS2 to my SD CRT and didn't even need that observation added to it.

[Greg2600]

As to component being on low-end CRTs in the 2000s... eh.

My current CRT is a Samsung. I want to say about 20" and I want to say I bought it new for like $150 in 2003.
Only has composite input... and mono at that.

20 inch probably too small for component to be included. 25/27 and up.

[CRTGAMER]

20 inch probably too small for component to be included. 25/27 and up.

My 20" Samsung SD CRT TX-T2042X has Component hookup, have DVD, BluRay, Video Player, Digital Broadcast Tuner and Cox Box all hooked up. There is also a Samsung 16" CRT and certain Sony 20" CRTs that have Component as well.

An older picture, I have since went in the Service menu and adjusted the Horizontal Shift, the entire CNN Logo can now be seen.

[The Clonus Horror]

"And during the 2000's I also purchased 3 or 4 of whatever the cheapest 13" CRT's were at Wal-Mart, several from cheap sounding names like Qazar, Daewoo, and so on for bedroom tv's and the kitchen (Including the last CRT that I ever saw there new back around 2012). Every last one to a tee had component video capabilities despite me not even bothering to check to see if they had that option each time."

When our local Pamida was going out of business, they had a 13" Floor Model HAIER (same brand as my microwave?O) CRT on a table for sale on clearance for $15. I totally snagged it up and was pleasantly surprised that it had analog coax, digital coax, 1 composite, and 1 component/composite shared inputs! The sound on it is pretty weak, but, still, for $15, I got quite a deal. TV still works fine.

[MeTmKnice]

Xwhatever on using component, if you have or can get a set for a reasonable price.

[BlastProcessing402]

Apparently some TV's don't support 240p over component, so on those TV's playing PSX games on a PS2 over component is a problem. There can also be some minor issues on games like Chrono Cross where the game is mostly 240p but menus are in 480i, leading to the screen going out for a second as it changes resolution. It's still my preferred way to play PSX games, though.