The official Nintendo Switch thread

[Zap!]

There have been a few off-topic Nintendo NX threads, but no specific ones that I could find. With a March, 2017 release date still on track, the announcement is likely imminent. There have been several rumors so far, such as those that continuously come up, like that it won't use disk media, it will be a hybrid handheld/system, etc.

So, when will the announcement come? I'd say mid October at the latest. How powerful will it be? Under-powered? Will Nintendo shock us and include 4k compatibility? What games would you like to see for it? What will it be called? If I were Nintendo, I'd strongly consider sticking to the NX name, IMO it actually sounds pretty cool.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Greg2600]

I've yet to see anything close to definitive on what this really is.

[calthaer]

So why should I get it?

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[lendelin]

The detailed speculations about the hardware don't make sense. It is enough if we know that the new console will be a hybrid console/handheld. This makes a lot of sense because Nintendo cannot compete (since 2006) with MS and Sony when it comes to hardware. Therefore they look since the Wii-times for something (wii mote, wii u gamepad) to distinguish themselves in the market to compensate for the underpowered hardware. The NX will be another effort in this regard, and even more; it might be, that this is the first step out of the traditional console market into the handheld market only.

I'm very mistrustful about speculations when it comes to hardware, what it can do and how the games will be. We will know when the NX is on the shelves and we play the games. I'm jaded. I saw the Genesis and SNES pics in mags, I watched the 64 Marios for the N64 running around (STUNNING graphics quality which was achieved with the GC five years later), the harware specs of the Dreamcast and the PS2, some were fulfilled, others not, but it was always different, positive or negative, when the games were finally played.

So far we know almost nothing about it, and even when the first reliable specs and the official pics will be released then we still won't know what this machine can do and if the games are good or not. Lots of speculations months ahead of the release don't make a lot of sense.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Niku-Sama]

carts carts carts it all about dem carts!

[Zap!]

The latest rumor is that it'll be called the Nintendo Duo. Not bad at all, although I prefer them sticking to the code name.

[Az]

Nintendo Switch? Just let me know about some backwards compatibility then I'm in.

[Gentlegamer]

Nintendo Dom/Sub

[Zap!]

Nintendo Switch? Just let me know about some backwards compatibility then I'm in.

Going to be hard without an optical drive. Unless you are hoping for DS compatibility?

[Daltone]

So is it basically a tablet with a dock?

[buzz_n64]

Welcome to the Wii U 1.5, I mean Nintendo Switch! When I first saw the trailer I thought it was a commercial for a new Wii U tablet accessory. Unimpressed, but it has Mario on it, so I'll check it out. Are you guys impressed by this?


https://youtu.be/f5uik5fgIaI

[Zap!]

I'm extremely impressed. I'll pre-order the second it's up.

[bb_hood]

Looks pretty kewl.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Greg2600]

Pretty much expected this. Nintendo knows Japan is all about mobile. I think it this should be cheap enough, and quite interesting how they angled this video towards "millenials" like they did the Wii 10 years ago. Has my attention.

[Az]

Going to be hard without an optical drive. Unless you are hoping for DS compatibility?

Specifically digital purchases already tied to your e-shop account.

[lendelin]

Finally Nintendo released an official announcement. Slowly the rumor-mill hurt the system. Pretty late compared to new systems of the past.

I'm not so impressed. I never was impressed by trailers showcasing actors giving us relatively little information. The trailer confirms in general the speculations, and I think this is (out of necessity) the right direction for Nintendo. A first step out of the console business towards handheld/mobile. The little 'joy-con controllers' seem to be very small for adult hands. A standard controller is available, and it seems the nonsensical and gimmicky Wii-controls and WiiU-controls are thank goodness a thing of the past.

But the most important Qs for a success of the new system remain unanswered. Besides hardware specs:

1. The price point?
2. Launch titles? (new Zelda and Mario, any other necessary first- or 3rd party-killer game?)
3. Third party support in the future? (intended support doesn't count, for the N64 a lot of publishers were counted before the launch)
4. Is programming for the system easy? (see third party support)

I just wait. I only judge a sytem when it's on the market and I can play the games, and even then the fate of a new system is decided one year after launch.

In short: It's way too early to get excited.

[Gentlegamer]

I think it looks great, I look forward to the unified one platform output from Nintendo's internal devs.

I hope Nintendo has a sweetheart deal with NVidia or this thing will come out expensive and never go down in price.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Gentlegamer]

Maybe Nintendo bought the exclusive rights to Tegra 2 for Switch manufacturing and got a discount that will be paid for by a sort of "co-marketing" relationship between Nintendo and Nvidia to raise the profile of Nvidia's future Shield offerings.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Zap!]

Thread title changed from NX to Switch.

[lendelin]

I read on a German website, that the Switch is more 'powerful' than the PS3 and the Xbox360 when it comes to hardware. But both systems are 11 and 10 years old. How powerful will the Switch indeed be? Better than the WiiU?

One prospect gets me a bit excited about the new system. Maybe the Switch will get Japanese RPGs which so far only handhelds get. As a notorious anti-handheld-gamer it would be fantastic if the new system would have RPGs like the 3DS. THEN I'm all over it. We'll see.

[Zap!]

I read on a German website, that the Switch is more 'powerful' than the PS3 and the Xbox360 when it comes to hardware.

So is the Wii U, and the Switch will be more powerful than that, so I don't really understand the website's point. It's like saying the Switch is more powerful than the Genesis. While true, it's supposed to be.

[Ryudo]

With Shin Megami Tensei Likely,Monster Hunter,Pokemon and Dragon Quest this thing will dominate Japan.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Bojay1997]

As I have been told, it is on the level of the PS4/one more or less, not of their now and upcoming 4K and VR ready boxes. Fear not its not the PS3 again with the thing being totally in the dark. But also keep in mind that theyre not competing with the other two clown car shows out there now as theyre in the microconsole space with this.

I think that's very unlikely. It will probably be more along the lines of an enhanced NVIDIA Shield as it shares a lot in common with that architecture.

[parallaxscroll]

IMHO, it will make a big difference in Nintendo Switch if the custom Nvidia Tegra chip is based on the new Tegra "Parker" (aka X2) with Pascal architecture, rather than the nearly 2 year old Tegra X1 based on Maxwell architecture, which is reportedly being used in Switch dev-kits.

Tegra X1 debuted in early 2015 and is used in Nvidia's Android Shield TV micro-console, and Google's Pixel C tablet. By the time Switch comes out in March 2017, Tegra X1 will be two years old.

Tegra X1 uses a 64-bit memory bus, allowing 25 GB/s bandwidth. Performance wise, it does 512 GFlops of normal FP32, and 1 TFlop of half-precision FP16. Overall, Tegra X1 is somewhere around 1/4th to 1/3rd as powerful as XBone (and obviously even less compared to og PS4).

Tegra Parker, aka X2, has a 128-bit bus, providing 50 GB/s bandwidth. We don't know much about Tegra Parker / X2 aside from being fabbed on 16nm FinFET process and using Pascal architecture. It would be a lot more power-efficient than Tegra X1 which used the 20nm process.

As far as graphics performance, power efficiency and thus, battery life, I'm keeping my fingers crossed Nintendo is getting a custom Tegra Parker / X2 for Switch.

[kupomogli]

Richard from Digital Foundry pretty much showed an identical design to what the system looked like and functioned like and stated it's going to be a custom Tegra X1, so according to that, the system is going to be more like half the power of the Xbox One instead of as powerful as the Xbox One or PS4, so this is the Gamecube 1.5, I mean, the Wii all over again in terms of power. Now hopefully I'm wrong, because I've already said to a friend if the NX is as powerful as the Xbox One or PS4 and a multiconsole game releases that's identical in performance between the PS4 and the NX, then I'm going to get the NX version for the reason that I'll be paying once and getting both a console and portable version of said game. Despite me being pro Sony and wanting the PS4 to be my main, if the NX will be the main on any game that has the same performance, so indie games will more than likely be on my NX system since a high powered console isn't much of a factor, small possibility of any larger budget games depending on the power difference.

That being said, I actually think the NX handheld looks really nice and has a sleek design. The controls while on the handheld look really comfortable, except for the inverted analog(I know why though, I'll get to that in a bit,) and then with the center piece they form the console version of the controller, and based on my experience with the Wii U pro controller, these things will probably last 80+ hours off a single charge. Pretty cool how the thing can be stood up so you can still be played using the controller on the go as well. Additionally, depending on the game, it was really cool that they could break off into two NES like controller with more buttons to allow for two people to play and the system has wifi capability to play these games alongside other NX consoles.

3DS games have to go somewhere, because Nintendo will probably stop allowing for them to be printed soon to force devs to move over to the NX, so I think the support the 3DS is getting with go to the NX. Additionally, I think the NX may also reinvigorate the Vita. The NX is more powerful than the Vita, but depending on the game, since they're both now a single screen and the two portables being mostly identical except for the power difference, there's a potential that the games may be developed multiconsole between Vita and NX. Might never happen but always a possibility since fans are really supportive of the Vita and I'm sure the niche devs still see that. That being said, I'd buy the NX version anyways if the Vita did get support, but there's still those Vita owners that would support it and get potentially more games released on the Vita that I won't be able to get on NX.

So anyways, I'm interested, but I'm going to wait on it. I really love the 3D effect on the 3DS so disappointed that the NX is a hybrid on that aspect, but it's the best thing Nintendo could have did, and while it's not revolutionary, it's the best idea a console can have to get support from both markets. PS4 is getting so much support, potentially the NX now? We've got two consoles in one gen that might be considered the PS2.5 if it does.

Finally. I just want to say that the Nintendo Switch is one of the worst console names in the history of consoles, so I'll leave you with some jokes I made up. The Nintendo Switch name is such a..... turn off. They should have.... switched names. Not too great probably, but I like them.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Bojay1997]

Look no offence but I'll take my brothers word on it who works at a company with devkits for it and knows on that end what it is and isn't capable of compared to some blowhard at digital foundry or other analyst taking heads speculating online. Bojay the tegra in shield and the tefra2 Parker have much in common but also much enhanced. If wrong and before they start making the hardware in mass and they cheap out and dumb it down that would be a really criminally stupid move on their part.

The problem is that Nvidia has already made these same boasts for the earlier gen of Tegra and while they technically told the truth that the Tegra had the "same graphical features as the PS4/Xbox One" (i.e. not the same performance, but the same basic capabilities), they also stated that the processor in that earlier generation was only on par with Xbox 360/PS3. You're not going to get equivalent performance on a mobile SOC to what are essentially desktop PC processors and GPUs like you find on the PS4 and Xbox One. You're also losing performance because you'll be pushing the built in screen using some of the processor cycles. It's the same reason that various tablets have great specs on paper, but in practical use, they aren't anywhere close to what consoles can deliver with similar specs. Nintendo's plan is not to compete head to head with current gen consoles. What they are offering is something a little unusual in the hope that great games will make up for a significant performance gap.

[PreZZ]

Looks promising, but knowing Nintendo this will probably still use friend codes, no wi-fi on tablet, weak ass specs barely on par with wii u, re-release all wii u games I already own, no tracking of past purchases with nintendo id meaning i have to buy the same shit all over again, no analogue triggers, mii's everywhere and miiverse censorship, poor battery life, and the list goes on and on. I'll wait after launch this time, last systems i bought i regret

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Gentlegamer]

You're not going to get equivalent performance on a mobile SOC to what are essentially desktop PC processors and GPUs like you find on the PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4/Xbone have laptop spec GPUs.

[Bojay1997]

PS4/Xbone have laptop spec GPUs.

That's not my understanding. They may share some features with laptop GPUs (power consumption and size), but my understanding is that both have what are essentially versions of the standard AMD Radeon series and not the "M" version of those GPUs.

[Bojay1997]

I see sharing info I know of is making no difference in this thread so I'll stop. Kind of slowly realizing more how this place is going ghost town. When opinion clouds fact why bother.

What, are you 12? You are taking your toys and going home because you claim your brother broke an NDA and provided information about a system so you could win an argument and when people question the information, you storm off like a child? Frankly, if that's the level of discussion you want to see around here, I think we're better off without your inarticulate contributions.

[Graham Mitchell]

Thoroughly unimpressed with the design and the knowing that the Tegra architecture was designed for tablets feels icky. My personal issue is that I feel that mobile gaming is "lesser" [not 3DS or Vita, mind you. And let's exclude the Nvida Sheild from this conversation...] and as someone that owns a gaming laptop, I've just got no need for this.

That said, if there's a Metroid game, I'll buy it.

[theclaw]

I see sharing info I know of is making no difference in this thread so I'll stop. Kind of slowly realizing more how this place is going ghost town. When opinion clouds fact why bother.

It's that "anonymous sources" are untrustworthy by their very nature. If people just go with it, anybody can claim whatever they want about anything and not be held accountable.

[PreZZ]

I see sharing info I know of is making no difference in this thread so I'll stop. Kind of slowly realizing more how this place is going ghost town. When opinion clouds fact why bother.
Geez sorry for giving my opinion!! Didnt know your speculations were facts, would you like me to make a statue of you and pray to it too!? I always find your posts interesting here tanooki but get of your high horse lol nobody knows shit yet about switch

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[theclaw]

My problem is I dont feel like arguing with someone who lacks the information I do yet claims Im wrong. Theres no point in arguing with someone like that or trying to mount a defense since one cant be made with someone grinding their heels in. Thats why I wrote that and I dont feel like going back and forward anymore as its a pointless waste of time.

The only one acting like a child is the one name calling to try and bait an ongoing battle of words to get a further rise out of it which I dont feel a need to play into. The general lack of maturity by some of the regulars left here who still post dont help things either so why make things worse off?

Don't mind it, the immature users have difficulty expressing themselves. They most likely feel the claims in question are not backed by sufficient evidence.

[Zap!]

I see sharing info I know of is making no difference in this thread so I'll stop. Kind of slowly realizing more how this place is going ghost town. When opinion clouds fact why bother.

Don't let them get to you. I hope the system is a tremendous success. I'm rooting for Nintendo, and will pre-order the system first chance I get.

[eskobar]

Every new console generation I am more away from the target of the console makers. I didn't like the way it was marketed and I didn't like the system ... but it was much better introduction of the new console compared to the Wii U, which still many casual consumers don't get, the message now is more clear.

I'm going to support Nintendo because we need a company like them alive in the game industry, everyday the way things were are dying slowly and I want to have something old fashioned as much as it's possible. I have tried to avoid information on the new Xelda because I want to purchase it and experience it with no hype and have no false expectations, Nintendo, hope you succeed with this console and hope you still can finance smaller projects and have a bit of good old gaming in the next gen. ;)

[Graham Mitchell]

Every new console generation I am more away from the target of the console makers. I didn't like the way it was marketed and I didn't like the system ... but it was much better introduction of the new console compared to the Wii U, which still many casual consumers don't get, the message now is more clear.

I'm going to support Nintendo because we need a company like them alive in the game industry, everyday the way things were are dying slowly and I want to have something old fashioned as much as it's possible. I have tried to avoid information on the new Xelda because I want to purchase it and experience it with no hype and have no false expectations, Nintendo, hope you succeed with this console and hope you still can finance smaller projects and have a bit of good old gaming in the next gen. ;)

My feeling is that Nintendo has aimed their consoles more and more at the casual demographic with each generation, leaving me less and less interested in the process.

The last 2 consoles (as well as the 3DS) are LOADED with shovelware, most of it child-oriented. Look in the online markets. You'll find WAY more pony training games than anything on the Virtual Console or major releases. Now the usual retort to this is "every console has shovelware. Even the NES had shovelware." This is true, but the ratio of garbage to something playable has been much higher than other machines on the market.

Even the first-party Nintendo games are less enjoyable to me these days (except Pikmin 3, which I adored). The 2-D and 3-D Mario games are so easy they practically play themselves. The levels are a breeze to zoom through, and the only challenge is collecting the star coins, which gets old fast. They're great for children, and can be a great game for families to en, but they don't challenge me at all, and the aesthetics are generally uninspired.

I have a deep love for many Zelda games, but the last few have been so similar (and quite frankly, uninteresting to me) that I don't have excitement for them anymore. Look at the ad for the Switch and the footage of Zelda it's showing on there. It's Link fighting dudes on horseback. We've had 4 or 5 games use this exact same premise since 1998, and it's getting old. And making it open world doesn't help much when the setting and core gameplay are the same.

Splatoon is child-friendly Call of Duty. True, the paint mechanic is original and fun for awhile, and I love the setting/language and little touches like the Famicom game when it's loading, but in general it's offering the same online competitive multiplayer that has been done to death. There's really not much innovation there. Competitive online multiplayer is big in the gaming zeitgeist right now. Making a game like this is like low-hanging fruit.

As far as you're hope for "smaller projects", don't count on it. Nintendo takes risks on hardware, not on games. Most of their cheaper titles suck or are rehashes of 30+ year old games. I've felt that Sony consoles have had the most varied and unique libraries since PS2. Sony was way more willing to take a risk on licensing odd stuff. In the PS2 era we had brilliant innovations like the Ico/SOTC games and Katamari Demacy. Gravity Rush is a commercial failure but is and amazing game (if you haven't played it, you should!) Sony Backed Rezogun, and the arcade series on PS4 is quite eclectic. They have City Connection and, Exerion, and now they're releasing obscure Nichibitsu games.

In the end, though, I find the best gaming on the PC. Steam and GOG are a goldmine of unique stuff. Momodoro is an amazing Metroidvania game, and Princess Maker 2 for the PC-98 just got remastered and put on Steam. The Umihare Kawase games are all on there too. There are very few console exclusives anymore. Even the games I bought a PS4 to play ended up on Steam eventually, and with some tweaking run much better.

PC gaming can be frustrating when shit doesn't work, but the end results for your investment are fantastic. My advice to anyone would be to build yourself a midrange PC. It'll probably still perform better than the consoles (especially since you can adjust settings depending on your taste for hi-res effects or a higher frame rate) and you'll have access to so much more.

In short, not only am I unimpressed with the switch hardware, I'm not even confident that Nintendo will be producing compelling software. They are so risk-averse that they've just been shoveling out rehashes (or remakes) of the same 5 or so franchises for the past 10 years.

Edit: These are my opinions and impressions, and I am not peddling them as facts. Also, sorry for the long post. But if Tanooki can do it, I can too ;)

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Bojay1997]

My feeling is that Nintendo has aimed their consoles more and more at the casual demographic with each generation, leaving me less and less interested in the process.

The last 2 consoles (as well as the 3DS) are LOADED with shovelware, most of it child-oriented. Look in the online markets. You'll find WAY more pony training games than anything on the Virtual Console or major releases. Now the usual retort to this is "every console has shovelware. Even the NES had shovelware." This is true, but the ratio of garbage to something playable has been much higher than other machines on the market.

Even the first-party Nintendo games are less enjoyable to me these days (except Pikmin 3, which I adored). The 2-D and 3-D Mario games are so easy they practically play themselves. The levels are a breeze to zoom through, and the only challenge is collecting the star coins, which gets old fast. They're great for children, and can be a great game for families to en, but they don't challenge me at all, and the aesthetics are generally uninspired.

I have a deep love for many Zelda games, but the last few have been so similar (and quite frankly, uninteresting to me) that I don't have excitement for them anymore. Look at the ad for the Switch and the footage of Zelda it's showing on there. It's Link fighting dudes on horseback. We've had 4 or 5 games use this exact same premise since 1998, and it's getting old. And making it open world doesn't help much when the setting and core gameplay are the same.

Splatoon is child-friendly Call of Duty. True, the paint mechanic is original and fun for awhile, and I love the setting/language and little touches like the Famicom game when it's loading, but in general it's offering the same online competitive multiplayer that has been done to death. There's really not much innovation there. Competitive online multiplayer is big in the gaming zeitgeist right now. Making a game like this is like low-hanging fruit.

As far as you're hope for "smaller projects", don't count on it. Nintendo takes risks on hardware, not on games. Most of their cheaper titles suck or are rehashes of 30+ year old games. I've felt that Sony consoles have had the most varied and unique libraries since PS2. Sony was way more willing to take a risk on licensing odd stuff. In the PS2 era we had brilliant innovations like the Ico/SOTC games and Katamari Demacy. Gravity Rush is a commercial failure but is and amazing game (if you haven't played it, you should!) Sony Backed Rezogun, and the arcade series on PS4 is quite eclectic. They have City Connection and, Exerion, and now they're releasing obscure Nichibitsu games.

In the end, though, I find the best gaming on the PC. Steam and GOG are a goldmine of unique stuff. Momodoro is an amazing Metroidvania game, and Princess Maker 2 for the PC-98 just got remastered and put on Steam. The Umihare Kawase games are all on there too. There are very few console exclusives anymore. Even the games I bought a PS4 to play ended up on Steam eventually, and with some tweaking run much better.

PC gaming can be frustrating when shit doesn't work, but the end results for your investment are fantastic. My advice to anyone would be to build yourself a midrange PC. It'll probably still perform better than the consoles (especially since you can adjust settings depending on your taste for hi-res effects or a higher frame rate) and you'll have access to so much more.

In short, not only am I unimpressed with the switch hardware, I'm not even confident that Nintendo will be producing compelling software. They are so risk-averse that they've just been shoveling out rehashes (or remakes) of the same 5 or so franchises for the past 10 years.

Edit: These are my opinions and impressions, and I am not peddling them as facts. Also, sorry for the long post. But if Tanooki can do it, I can too ;)

I agree strongly with many of your points. I've been very disappointed with the software selection on the WiiU and the 3DS in recent years and Nintendo seems to be focusing less and less on pursuing innovative software design, instead being content to keep treading water and rehashing their IP and hoping that Amiibo sales and other gimmicks would get them through. Although I have no doubt that I will purchase the Switch at launch in the naive hope that Nintendo will return to software greatness, I can't help but feel disappointed in their decision to let Sony and Microsoft get so far ahead in sheer hardware performance. I remember when Nintendo made alternate design choices in hardware with platforms like the N64 and the Gamecube, but still managed to deliver technology that could compete with the other consoles. I own all three iterations of the Nvidia Shield and while I had high hopes for the platform, there are certain design compromises that had to be made to hit a certain price point and I think the same will hold true with the Switch. It's starting to feel like it's time for Nintendo to abandon hardware completely and just focus 100% on software. Unfortunately, like Sega, I can imagine Nintendo continuing down the path of churning out retread after retread with no new IP or other innovation to make them stand out from the rich and bountiful indie gaming scene that dominates STEAM and even the PS4 and Xbox One digital libraries.

[PreZZ]

Tanooki you made me remember of all those kids at school "i know cause my uncle works at nintendo!". Even if you do have inside info, nobody really knows all the specs and details yet.

[Graham Mitchell]

@tanooki: thanks for the compliment. I had to stay late at work cuz of it!

@bojay: I REALLY miss when Nintendo had more competitive hardware. My mind was blown the first time I saw the N64 and SNES my mind was blown. I actually thought the Wii was amazing at first, before the poop train hit.

[Graham Mitchell]

Tanooki you made me remember of all those kids at school "i know cause my uncle works at nintendo!". Even if you do have inside info, nobody really knows all the specs and details yet.

I grew up in Bellevue Washington, my friend's dad DID work at Nintendo. She hooked me up with mad Game and Watches. If she still has them she's sitting on a goldmine.

She was the first girl to have a crush on me. I didn't give a fuck. I just wanted to borrow donkey kong hockey and tropical fish.

[celerystalker]

I miss the kind of excitement I used to have growing up for new systems, like the first time I saw the NES or the night I first played Turbografx and SNES on the same night. It's been a long time since I truly was excited about a system... probably the Dreamcast, to the point where I was actively seeking out information or importing hardware and games early ('cause I wasn't waiting on Power Stone, dammit!).

That said, I like much of what I see so far here, though the controls concern me. Nintendo's stuff, while responsive, has really felt too small for my hands in the last 15 years, and I always cramp up with their portables. It's almost like they hate adult males. Hopefully there'll be a few good options out there... and maybe a game or two that'll be unique and fun. I still haven't talked myself into a Wii U, as only Mario Maker and Captain Toad have been calling my name so far.

[XYXZYZ]

The ad reminded me of the "Player Profile" section of Nintendo Power, when they always listed "camping, math homework, and playing sports" as the player's hobbies. :bullshit:LOL

[OldSchoolGamer]

Here is what you can really expect :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWpD1k5PVnU

[Graham Mitchell]

That's priceless. I can't tell if the shots of the switch are ripped from the ad or not.

[Gentlegamer]

Nintendo Karen needs to be the Switch mascot, like Johnny Turbo.

[PizzaKat]

Lame parody. Yeah Im playing Skyrim while taking a dump. Ha ha..

[FieryReign]

Shit doesn't look very portable to me. If it don't fit in the pocket, it ain't portable.

[kupomogli]

Here is what you can really expect :p]

I was actually thinking of making a parody, although I'm too lazy so wouldn't ever go through with recording it, but basically do just as they did and rip off the Nintendo Switch ad, with the Playstation Switch. You know how the PSP Go has a tv out/charging dock and can use a PS3 controller? Mine parody idea though was to throw it in the faces of the Nintendo fanboys who keep stating how revolutionary Nintendo is and saying "how long until Sony/Microsoft copies the Nintendo Switch." Statements about how Nintendo did everything first is already annoying, but literally everything that comes out of the mouth of a die hard Nintendo fanboy is annoying.

PSP Go dock with the controller was the most similar. A single device that could be played portable, portable while viewing from a stand using a console controller, or on a tv. However, PSP2000 or 3000 could do to the tv just with the tv out. The Vita and PSTV and the TG16 and Turbo Express portable are similar but in these cases you had to buy the portable and the consolized version.

[InsaneDavid]

I think this sets the mood better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeHh803GlOE

Nintendo has learned nothing from the WiiU. Better advertising? Sure. Yet it's the same BS of showing third party games that aren't actually in development for the hardware. This thing comes out in what, five months, and third party support is still in the "kicking the tires" phase? This is, in part, the same crap that got third parties to quit going in with Sega's hardware. Get serious about enticing third party support (that isn't a bunch of shovelware) or get out of hardware. Plain and simple.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[InsaneDavid]

Seems to me you and many others are living in this armchair executive fantasy of knowing what exactly Nintendo does and doesnt have lined up. Maybe they do have Skyrim, who are you to say they dont? Can you document some current factual information that it along with the rest of the people with kits are working on nothing for release?

Because both Bethesda and 2K said that those games are not in development for Switch. Help yourself to some public information, not NDA violations from some mysterious family member -

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/20/developers-respond-to-nintendo-switch

“We’re happy to have had the opportunity to collaborate with Nintendo on the video. While we are not confirming any specific titles at this time, we are pleased to announce our partnership with Nintendo and support of the Switch. We look forward to revealing specific games and details in the future.” - Bethesda representative

“We’re happy to have had the opportunity to collaborate with Nintendo on the trailer. While we are not confirming any specific titles at this time, we are pleased to announce our partnership with Nintendo and support of Nintendo Switch. We look forward to revealing specific details at a later date.” - 2K representative

If it's such a freaking done deal, to the point where specific titles are shown in the reveal trailer, then why not confirm the titles for SOMETIME during the first year? Only one reason that doesn't happen when they are already shown and that's because they aren't in development. Instead we get the blanket "maaaaaaaaaybe..." support response from the rest of the industry. They pulled the same crap with the WiiU and the sizzle reel of all these games that never materialized. People are just being smarter this time around and are looking for solid confirmation. I have some industry connections, I don't disclose them, I respect how the business works. All the information above is public knowledge.

[Gameguy]

I was actually thinking of making a parody, although I'm too lazy so wouldn't ever go through with recording it, but basically do just as they did and rip off the Nintendo Switch ad, with the Playstation Switch. You know how the PSP Go has a tv out/charging dock and can use a PS3 controller? Mine parody idea though was to throw it in the faces of the Nintendo fanboys who keep stating how revolutionary Nintendo is and saying "how long until Sony/Microsoft copies the Nintendo Switch." Statements about how Nintendo did everything first is already annoying, but literally everything that comes out of the mouth of a die hard Nintendo fanboy is annoying.

PSP Go dock with the controller was the most similar. A single device that could be played portable, portable while viewing from a stand using a console controller, or on a tv. However, PSP2000 or 3000 could do to the tv just with the tv out. The Vita and PSTV and the TG16 and Turbo Express portable are similar but in these cases you had to buy the portable and the consolized version.
You forgot the Sega Nomad, it has a TV out option. Otherwise there was the Gameboy/Super Gameboy/SNES setup but everything was sold separately, and that was more of a way to play portable games on a big screen rather than play console games portably. Either way it's not an entirely new concept, even just looking back to Nintendo itself.

Maybe this console will actually be good when it comes out. The 3DS turned out much better than everyone thought before it got released, people just thought it was a new version of the Virtual Boy(including myself). Just hope the Switch is better than the Wii U and it should be fine.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Graham Mitchell]

Oh, Nintendo will be fine whether or not this tanks. They'll just make amiibos and put out games on ios.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Bojay1997]

So because they said they collaborated but wont actually confirm a title, it is time to roll out the jump to conclusions mat? Real mature. Skepticism is fine, my problem is people on the whole are being assholes about the entire video playing armchair experts throwing anti Nintendo shit around and it is tiresome. They said theyd reveal in January and I for one am patient enough to wait for reality to materialize instead of being another brainless lemming jumping over a cliff of pure speculatory bullshit. Feel free by all means to be a lemming, but I intend to wait a couple months before dogpiling on them for being fuck ups yet again. I cant stand Nintendo anymore from a console side but theye never let me down on the handheld end of their business model so I am willing to give a benefit of the doubt for a little while longer. Theyve set themselves up for success or ruin in January depending on the software reveal. If it is a pile of 1st and 2nd party shit and little to nothing physically being played as a finished or near finished third party project them fuck them but if not I think some apologies around the intenet may just be in order.

Are you actually just one person posting all this nonsense or do multiple people use your account? Here is what you posted earlier in this same thread:

"Then they show Skyrim, EA basketball and 4 of their own titles too and this all in a 3 1/2 min tease. Going along side you hae the press release which shows dozens of developers, quite a few on Wii or WiiU that left Nintendo for dead on the console side with SquareEnix, Capcom, Konami, EA and more...hell even pathological haters at Epic Games are signedup on this which stunned me seeing that on a list -- plus a couple dozen mobile developers from games to backbone stuff seems to indicate they finally extricated their head from their rectum finally and are serious about appealing to not just Nintendo fanboys yet another generation who gets all apologetic over their stupid moves just because theyre Nintendo and their IPs."

You basically are speculating that not only are all of the shown titles getting a release on Switch, but that somehow everyone who signed up for a dev kit (and therefore appears on that list) is going to develop or release software for the Switch. I will remind you that Nintendo has shown a massive list of developers "supporting" its hardware each time it releases a new platform and most of them never release anything. You need to take your name calling, thin skin and insults elsewhere. You are just as guilty of jumping to conclusions as anyone here and you constantly claim to be done with the discussion only to return with more insults and weak arguments.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Bojay1997]

Fuck you moron seriously. You want to take what I said out of context that is fine if you want to spin have at it.

The whole point is we know not much, just what is shared, and to jump on them and get all hateful right now is just cheap and petty. That is it.

I dont know why you are so infatuated with me you just keep repeatedly attacking when I make posts but its pretty damn childish, and it is also pretty telling why this place keeps shrinking in user base if that kind of shitty harassment is allowed to fly.

I speculated nothing other than saying what they show and that they have as a line up for people who are licensed developers. I did not say they hae a kit you WILL get games. I wont take my attitude and walk, but if youre fed up with me get me banned if you cant handle it princess. There are other places out there, less trolling, and more active, yet you are right I keep coming around and that is because there are a few people here I do like to talk to. Nothing I have said it week and what I have put out there is pretty much already known and I am not sorry that offends you.

And there you go again. Name calling, playing the victim card and claiming that everyone else is taking your own words out of context. Anyone who disagrees with your poorly written posts or dubious claims of a family member willing to break an NDA to share "insider" information is somehow harassing you. Just because people disagree with your opinion doesn't give you the right to call them names or attack them. It's getting old and frankly, I think very few of the forum members in this thread agree with you and yet you continue to act like only your opinion matters. If you're not willing and able to have a civilized discussion, you really do need to move on as nobody wants to be part of a forum where dissenting opinions are met with insults and attacks like you keep spewing.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[Bojay1997]

Blojay because in my time here I have learned you're not worth arguing with once you get started as it does no good. You'll persist in shoveling bullshit to stroke your own ego. Do the favor of just dying already. Yes sure everyone always agrees with you. Its so fun trying to discuss things when someone has no use for reality. I have no reason to be civil when you do as you do and I'm over caring to be.

And yet rather than walk away, you have posted again and dropped more insults and wished me dead. I don't say this often, but you are truly a disgusting individual.

[Tanooki]

Meh!!

[OldSchoolGamer]

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[Bojay1997]

I dont either but you truly are a pig fucker. Id be surprised if you functioned well in society the way you handle yourself since you seemingly have issue with facts and differing opinion. Tired of walking away and would rather stand my ground against some pathetic forum troll and insults are all it is worth anymore as nothing better registers.

Again with the personal insults. I'm guessing you have trouble with basic critical thought as you seem to immediately resort to personal attacks and insults when someone proposes and supports a different opinion than your own or points out inconsistencies or weaknesses in your opinion. Nothing you have presented here is a fact. You have simply formed an opinion based on what you believe to be true based on a promo video and a purported conversation with a family member. My opinions are based on 30+ years of buying and owning Nintendo products and following very closely how they operate, as well as various Internet sources that have been pretty accurate to date about what the Switch was going to be down to very specific technical details. A troll is someone who starts conflicts on a forum for the sake of the conflict. I'm only interested in discussing the Switch with people who may have differing opinions. While I may take issue with those opinions, I certainly don't believe that your opinion or my opinion or anyone else's opinion here is "factual" even if elements of fact inform how those opinions are formed. If you can't handle someone having an opinion different than your own and calling you out on weakspots in your arguments or claims, you have no business posting on a discussion forum and should stick to pure news sites.