Genesis history site?

[Ikari Warrior]

I visited a website a while back the had a complete histroy of Genesis releases year by year, with screenshots, cover scans, original advertisements and a description of every game. It wasn't complete at the time, it was only from 1988 to about 1991. I'd like to go back and ciheck it out, but I don't remember the name. Does anyone know the name or address of this site?

[Kroogah]

www.genesiscollective.com perhaps?

[Ikari Warrior]

Nope, nice site though. It went year by year, you didn't link to individual games. One set of pages was say 1989 with 5-10 games on each page.

[XpOsUrE]

www.genesiscollective.com perhaps?

Love sites like this, and the type the guy above was asking for, maybe we could post more :D sure won't hurt to have outstanding classic system sites like those added to my favorites.

[digitalpress]

www.genesiscollective.com perhaps?

Love sites like this, and the type the guy above was asking for, maybe we could post more :D sure won't hurt to have outstanding classic system sites like those added to my favorites.

Hank/"snorter" has been a great help with our Genesis section, he truly knows the system inside and out!

This seems like a good time to test out our new DP database "chrono trigger"... this is not the complete list, but it is a complete list of titles that we have dates for (over 400).


1989
Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle (Sega)
Altered Beast (Sega)
Arnold Palmer Tournament Golf (Sega)
Ghouls 'n Ghosts (Sega)
Golden Axe (Sega)
Last Battle (Sega)
Mystic Defender (Sega)
Phantasy Star II (Sega)
Revenge of Shinobi, The (Sega)
Truxton (Sega)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (Sega)
World Championship Soccer (Sega)
Zoom! (Sega)

1990
After Burner II (Sega)
Air Diver (Seismic)
Arrow Flash (Renovation)
Atomic Robo-kid (Treco)
Battle Squadron (Electronic Arts)
Budokan: The Martial Spirit (Electronic Arts)
Burning Force (Namco)
Castle of Illusion starring Mickey Mouse (Sega)
Columns (Sega)
Crack Down (Sega)
Cyberball (Tengen)
Dick Tracy (Sega)
DJ Boy (Kaneko)
Fire Shark (DreamWorks)
Gaiares (Renovation)
Ghostbusters (Sega)
Hard Drivin' (Tengen)
Hellfire (Seismic)
Insector X (Sage's Creation)
Ishido: The Way of Stones (Accolade)
James Pond: Underwater Agent (Electronic Arts)
Joe Montana Football (Sega)
John Madden Football (Electronic Arts)
Junction (Micronet)
Klax (Tengen)
Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA Playoffs (Electronic Arts)
M.U.S.H.A. (Seismic)
Michael Jackson's Moonwalker (Sega)
Midnight Resistance (Data East)
Pat Riley Basketball (Sega)
Rastan Saga II (Taito)
Shadow Blasters (Sage's Creation)
Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi (Sega)
Shove It! The Warehouse Game (DreamWorks)
Strider (Sega)
Strider Returns: Journey from Darkness (US Gold)
Super Hydlide (Seismic)
Sword of Sodan (Electronic Arts)
Target Earth (DreamWorks)
Technocop (Razor Soft)
Tecmo World Cup (Atlus)
Trampoline Terror (DreamWorks)
Zany Golf (Electronic Arts)

06/01/91
ToeJam & Earl (Sega)

1991
688 Attack Sub (Electronic Arts)
Abrams Battle Tank (Sega)
Air Buster (Kaneko)
Back to the Future Part 3 (Arena)
Battlemaster (Arena)
Beast Wrestler (Renovation)
Block Out (Electronic Arts)
Bonanza Brothers (Sega)
Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday (Electronic Arts)
Bulls vs. Lakers and the NBA Playoffs (Electronic Arts)
Caliber .50 (Mentrix)
Centurion: Defender of Rome (Electronic Arts)
Dark Castle (Electronic Arts)
F-22 Interceptor: Advanced Tactical Fighter (Electronic Arts)
Faery Tale Adventure, The (Electronic Arts)
Fantasia (Sega)
Fatal Rewind (Electronic Arts)
Flicky (Sega)
Hardball! (Accolade)
Heavy Nova (Micronet)
Immortal, The (Will Harvey Presents) (Electronic Arts)
James Pond II: Codename Robocod (Electronic Arts)
Jewel Master (Sega)
Joe & Mac (Data East)
John Madden Football '92 (Electronic Arts)
King's Bounty: The Conqueror's Quest (Electronic Arts)
Marble Madness (Electronic Arts)
Mario Lemieux Hockey (Sega)
Mickey's Ultimate Challenge (Hi-Tech Express)
Might & Magic: Gates to Another World (Electronic Arts)
Mike Ditka Power Football (Accolade)
Ms. Pac-Man (Tengen)
NHL Hockey (Electronic Arts)
Out Run (Sega)
Pac-Mania (Tengen)
Paperboy (Tengen)
PGA Tour Golf (Electronic Arts)
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom (Sega)
Pit-Fighter (Tengen)
Populous (Electronic Arts)
QuackShot starring Donald Duck (Sega)
Quad Challenge (Namco)
Raiden Trad (Micronet)
Rampart (Tengen)
RBI Baseball 3 (Tengen)
Rings of Power (Electronic Arts)
Road Rash (Electronic Arts)
RoadBlasters (Tengen)
Rolling Thunder 2 (Namco)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms II (Koei)
Saint Sword (Taito)
Shadow of the Beast (Electronic Arts)
Shining in the Darkness (Sega)
Slaughtersport (Razor Soft)
Sonic the Hedgehog (Sega)
Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe (Arena)
Spider-Man (Sega)
Starflight (Electronic Arts)
Street Smart (Treco)
Streets of Rage (Sega)
Task Force Harrier EX (Treco)
Toki: Going Ape Spit (Sega)
Trouble Shooter (Vic Tokai)
Turrican (Ballistic)
Twin Cobra (Treco)
Two Crude Dudes (Data East)
Ultimate Qix (Taito)
Valis III (Renovation)
Valis: The Phantasm Soldier (Renovation)
Vapor Trail (Renovation)
Wardner (Mentrix)
Warrior of Rome (Micronet)
WarSong (Treco)
Wings of Wor (DreamWorks)
Winter Challenge (Accolade)
Y's III: Wanderers From Y's (Renovation)
Zool: Ninja of the Nth Dimension (Electronic Arts)

11/24/92
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Sega)

1992
Aerobiz (Koei)
American Gladiators (GameTek)
Aquatic Games starring James Pond, The (Electronic Arts)
Ariel, Disney's The Little Mermaid (Sega)
Atomic Runner (Data East)
Bio-Hazard Battle (Sega)
Cal Ripken Jr. Baseball (Mindscape)
Captain America and the Avengers (Data East)
Chakan: The Forever Man (Sega)
Cr�e Ball (Electronic Arts)
David Crane's Amazing Tennis (Absolute)
Deadly Moves (Kaneko)
Death Duel (Razor Soft)
Desert Strike: Return to the Gulf (Electronic Arts)
Double Dragon (Accolade)
Dragon's Fury (Tengen)
Ecco the Dolphin (Sega)
Fighting Masters (Treco)
Galahad, The Legend of (Electronic Arts)
Gemfire (Koei)
George Foreman's KO Boxing (Flying Edge)
Global Gladiators: Mick and Mack (Virgin)
Gods (Mindscape)
Great Waldo Search, The (T*HQ)
Greendog: The Beached Surfer Dude! (Sega)
Home Alone (Sega)
Hook (Sony)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (US Gold)
Jerry Glanville's Pigskin Footbrawl (Sega)
Joe Montana II Sports Talk Football (Sega)
John Madden Football '93 (Electronic Arts)
John Madden Football '93 Championship Edition (Electronic Arts)
Jordan vs. Bird (Electronic Arts)
Kid Chameleon (Sega)
Lemmings (SunSoft)
LHX Attack Chopper (Electronic Arts)
Lotus Turbo Challenge (Electronic Arts)
MIG-29: Fighter Pilot (Tengen)
Miracle Piano Teaching System, The (SW Toolworks)
Mortal Kombat (Arena)
Mystical Fighter (DreamWorks)
NBA All-Star Challenge (Flying Edge)
NHLPA Hockey '93 (Electronic Arts)
Olympic Gold: Barcelona '92 (US Gold)
Paperboy 2 (Tengen)
PGA Tour Golf II (Electronic Arts)
Power Monger (Electronic Arts)
Predator 2 (Acclaim)
Pro Quarterback (Tradewest)
RBI Baseball 4 (Tengen)
Risky Woods (Electronic Arts)
Road Rash II (Electronic Arts)
Roger Clemens' MVP Baseball (Flying Edge)
Rolo to the Rescue (Electronic Arts)
Shadow of the Beast II (Electronic Arts)
Side Pocket (Data East)
Simpsons, The: Bart vs. the Space Mutants (Flying Edge)
Simpsons, The: Krusty's Super Funhouse (Flying Edge)
Sol-Deace (Renovation)
Sorcerer's Kingdom (Treco)
Splatterhouse 2 (Namco)
Steel Empire (Flying Edge)
Steel Talons (Tengen)
Streets of Rage 2 (Sega)
Sunset Riders (Konami)
Super Battletank: War in the Gulf (Absolute)
Super High Impact (Arena)
Super Off-Road (Ballistic)
Super Smash TV (Flying Edge)
Superman (SunSoft)
T2: The Arcade Game (Arena)
TaleSpin (Sega)
Taz-Mania (Sega)
Team USA Basketball (Electronic Arts)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone (Konami)
Test Drive II: The Duel (Accolade)
Todd's Adventures in Slime World (Renovation)
Tyrants: Fight Through Time (Virgin)
Universal Soldier (Accolade)
Warrior of Rome II (Micronet)
Wheel of Fortune (GameTek)
Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? (Electronic Arts)
Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego? (Electronic Arts)
World of Illusion starring Mickey Mouse and (Sega)
Donald Duck
World Trophy Soccer (Virgin)
WWF Super Wrestlemania (Flying Edge)

1993
Action 52 (Active Ent)
Addams Family, The (Flying Edge)
Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle and Friends, (Absolute)
Aladdin (Disney's) (Virgin)
Awesome Possum (Tengen)
B.O.B. (Electronic Arts)
Barbie Super Model (Hi-Tech Express)
Barney's Hide & Seek (Sega)
Battletoads (Tradewest)
Battletoads & Double Dragon (Tradewest)
Bill Walsh College Football (Electronic Arts)
Blades of Vengeance (Electronic Arts)
Boxing: Legends of the Ring (Electro Brain)
Bubsy: Claws Encounters of the Furred Kind (Accolade)
Bulls vs. Blazers and the NBA Playoffs (Electronic Arts)
Caesar's Palace (Virgin)
Championship Bowling (Mentrix)
Championship Pool (Mindscape)
Chester Cheetah: Too Cool to Fool (Kaneko)
Cosmic Spacehead (Codemasters)
Dashin' Desperadoes (Data East)
Davis Cup Tennis (Tengen)
Dragon's Revenge (Tengen)
Eternal Champions (Sega)
Exodus (Wisdom Tree)
F-117 Night Storm (Electronic Arts)
F-15 Strike Eagle II (Microprose)
Fantastic Dizzy (Codemasters)
FIFA International Soccer (Electronic Arts)
Flintstones, The (Taito)
Formula One (Domark)
General Chaos (Electronic Arts)
Genghis Khan 2: Clan of the Gray Wolf (Koei)
Goofy's Hysterical History Tour (Absolute)
Gunstar Heroes (Sega)
Hardball III (Accolade)
Haunting starring Polterguy, The (Electronic Arts)
High Seas Havoc (Data East)
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (T*HQ)
Incredible Crash Dummies, The (Flying Edge)
Jack Nicklaus' Power Challenge Golf (Accolade)
James Pond 3: Operation Starfish (Electronic Arts)
Jeopardy! Sports Edition (GameTek)
Jungle Strike: The Sequel to Desert Strike (Electronic Arts)
Jurassic Park (Sega)
King of the Monsters (Takara)
King Salmon: The Big Catch (Vic Tokai)
Lethal Enforcers (Konami)
Liberty or Death (Koei)
Lost Vikings, The (Interplay)
Lotus II (Electronic Arts)
Madden NFL '94 (Electronic Arts)
Marko (Domark)
Mazin Saga Mutant Fighter (Vic Tokai)
McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure (Sega)
Micro Machines (Codemasters)
Mutant League Football (Electronic Arts)
NBA Jam (Arena)
NHL '94 (Electronic Arts)
Out Run 2019 (Sega)
Pele! (Accolade)
Pink Goes to Hollywood (TecMagik)
Puggsy (Psygnosis)
Race Drivin' (Tengen)
RBI Baseball '93 (Tengen)
RoboCop 3 (Flying Edge)
Rocket Knight Adventures (Konami)
Rolling Thunder 3 (Namco)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms III (Koei)
Shining Force (Sega)
Shinobi III: Revenge of the Ninja Master (Sega)
Simpsons, The: Bart's Nightmare (Flying Edge)
Soldiers of Fortune (Spectrum Holo)
Sonic Spinball (Sega)
Spider-Man (Acclaim)
Spider-Man/X-Men: Arcade's Revenge (Flying Edge)
Splatterhouse 3 (Namco)
Sports Talk Football '93 starring Joe Montana (Sega)
Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition (Capcom)
Summer Challenge (Accolade)
Super Baseball 2020 (Electronic Arts)
Super Battleship (Mindscape)
Syndicate (Electronic Arts)
T2: Terminator 2 Judgment Day (Flying Edge)
Techno Clash (Electronic Arts)
Tecmo Super Bowl (Tecmo)
Tecmo Super NBA Basketball (Tecmo)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament (Konami)
Tin Head (Spectrum Holo)
Tiny Toon Adventures: ACME All-Stars (Konami)
ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron (Sega)
Tony LaRussa Baseball (Electronic Arts)
Toys (Absolute)
Uncharted Waters (Koei)
Virtual Pinball (Electronic Arts)
WarpSpeed (Accolade)
Wayne's World (T*HQ)
World Cup USA '94 (US Gold)
WWF Royal Rumble (Flying Edge)
X-Men (Sega)
Zombies Ate My Neighbors (Konami)

08/04/94
Dynamite Headdy (Sega)

1994
Aerobiz: Supersonic (Koei)
Animaniacs (Konami)
Asterix and the Great Rescue (Sega)
ATP Tour Championship Tennis (Sega)
Ballz 3-D (Accolade)
Barkley: Shut Up and Jam! (Accolade)
Beavis & Butthead, MTV's (Viacom)
Bill Walsh College Football '95 (Electronic Arts)
Brett Hull Hockey '95 (Accolade)
Bubsy II (Accolade)
Castlevania: Bloodlines (Konami)
College Football's National Championship (Sega)
Combat Cars (Accolade)
Contra Hard Corps (Konami)
Double Dribble: The Playoff Edition (Konami)
Earthworm Jim (Playmates)
Fatal Fury 2 (Takara)
FIFA Soccer '95 (Electronic Arts)
Gauntlet IV (Tengen)
Generations Lost (Time Warner)
Great Circus Mystery starring Mickey & Minnie, (Capcom)
Grind Stormer (Tengen)
Hardball '94 (Accolade)
IMG International Tour Tennis (Electronic Arts)
Incredible Hulk, The (US Gold)
Jammit (Virgin)
Joshua: The Battle of Jericho (Wisdom Tree)
Jungle Book, The (Disney's) (Virgin)
Jurassic Park: Rampage Edition (Sega)
Kawasaki Superbike Challenge (Time Warner)
King of the Monsters 2 (Takara)
Lemmings 2: The Tribes (Psygnosis)
Lethal Enforcers II: Gunfighters (Konami)
Lion King, The (Disney's) (Virgin)
Madden NFL '95 (Electronic Arts)
Mario Andretti Racing (Electronic Arts)
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (Sony)
Math Blaster Episode 1 (Davidson)
Mega Turrican (Data East)
Mickey Mania: Timeless Adventures of Mickey (Sony)
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers (Sega)
MLBPA Baseball (Electronic Arts)
Mortal Kombat II (Acclaim)
Mutant League Hockey (Electronic Arts)
NBA Action '94 (Sega)
NBA Jam Tournament Edition (Acclaim)
NBA Live '95 (Electronic Arts)
NBA Showdown '94 (Electronic Arts)
NCAA Final Four Basketball (Mindscape)
NCAA Football (Mindscape)
Newman Haas IndyCar featuring Nigel Mansell (Acclaim)
NFL '94 starring Joe Montana (Sega)
NFL Quarterback Club (Acclaim)
NHL '95 (Electronic Arts)
NHL All-Star Hockey '95 (Sega)
Normy's Beach Babe-O-Rama (Electronic Arts)
Olympic Winter Games: Lillehammer '94 (US Gold)
Operation Europe: Path to Victory 1939-45 (Koei)
Out Runners (Data East)
Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures (Namco)
Pele II: World Tournament Soccer (Accolade)
Pete Sampras Tennis (Codemasters)
PGA European Tour (Electronic Arts)
PGA Tour Golf III (Electronic Arts)
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure (Activision)
RBI Baseball '94 (Tengen)
Revolution X featuring Aerosmith (Acclaim)
Risk (Parker Bros)
Ristar (Sega)
Rugby World Cup '95 (Electronic Arts)
Sesame Street Counting Cafe (Electronic Arts)
Shadowrun (Sega)
Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye (Activision)
Shaq-Fu (Electronic Arts)
Shining Force II (Sega)
Simpsons, The: Virtual Bart (Acclaim)
Skitchin' (Electronic Arts)
Sonic & Knuckles (Sega)
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Sega)
Spider-Man/Venom: Maximum Carnage (Acclaim)
Spiritual Warfare (Wisdom Tree)
Star Trek: The Next Generation (Sega)
Stargate (Acclaim)
Streets of Rage 3 (Sega)
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers (Capcom)
Sylvester and Tweety in Cagey Capers (TecMagik)
Taz in Escape from Mars (Sega)
Tecmo Super Baseball (Tecmo)
Tecmo Super Bowl II: Special Edition (Tecmo)
Tecmo Super Hockey (Tecmo)
Terminator, The (Virgin)
Tony LaRussa Baseball '95 (Electronic Arts)
Top Gear 2 (Vic Tokai)
Troy Aikman NFL Football (Tradewest)
True Lies (Acclaim)
Uncharted Waters: New Horizons (Koei)
Unnecessary Roughness '95 (Accolade)
Urban Strike: The Sequel to Jungle Strike (Electronic Arts)
Warlock (Acclaim)
We're Back! A Dinosaur's Tale (Hi-Tech Express)
Wolverine: Adamantium Rage (Acclaim)
World Championship Soccer II (Sega)
World Series Baseball (Sega)
Young Indiana Jones: Instruments of Chaos (LucasArts)
Zero Tolerance (Accolade)

1995
Aaahh!!! Real Monsters (Viacom)
Barkley: Shut Up and Jam! 2 (Accolade)
Batman Forever (Acclaim)
Bible Adventures (Wisdom Tree)
Bubba 'n' Stix (Core Design)
Coach K College Basketball (Electronic Arts)
College Football USA '96 (Electronic Arts)
Comix Zone (Sega)
Cutthroat Island (Acclaim)
Death and Return of Superman, The (SunSoft)
Demolition Man (Acclaim)
FIFA Soccer '96 (Electronic Arts)
Foreman For Real Boxing (Acclaim)
Frank Thomas Big Hurt Baseball (Acclaim)
Hardball '95 (Accolade)
Head-On Soccer (US Gold)
Judge Dredd (Acclaim)
Justice League Task Force (Acclaim)
Madden NFL '96 (Electronic Arts)
Marsupilami (Sega)
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie (Sega)
Minnesota Fats Pool Legend (Data East)
NBA Live '96 (Electronic Arts)
NFL '95 starring Joe Montana (Sega)
NFL Quarterback Club '96 (Acclaim)
NHL '96 (Electronic Arts)
PGA Tour '96 (Electronic Arts)
Phantom 2040 (Viacom)
Pinocchio (Virgin)
Road Rash 3 (Electronic Arts)
Scooby-Doo Mystery (SunSoft)
Spider-Man/Venom: Separation Anxiety (Acclaim)
Spot Goes to Hollywood (Acclaim)
Tecmo Super Bowl III: Final Edition (Tecmo)
Theme Park (Electronic Arts)
Toughman Contest (Electronic Arts)
Toy Story (Disney's) (Disney)
Triple Play '96 (Electronic Arts)
Vectorman (Sega)
VR Troopers (Sega)
WeaponLord (Namco)
WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game (Acclaim)
X-Men 2: Clone Wars (Sega)
Zoop (Viacom)

1996
Bass Masters Classic: Pro Edition (T*HQ)
College Football USA '97: The Road to New (Electronic Arts)
College Slam (Acclaim)
FIFA Soccer '97 (Electronic Arts)
Madden NFL '97 (Electronic Arts)
NBA Live '97 (Electronic Arts)
NHL '97 (Electronic Arts)
Pocahontas (Virgin)
Prime Time NFL starring Deion Sanders (Sega)
Sonic 3D Blast (Sega)
Sonic Classics (Sega)
Triple Play Gold Edition (Electronic Arts)
Vectorman 2 (Sega)
X-Perts (Sega)

1997
Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (Sega)
Madden NFL '98 (T*HQ)
NBA Live '98 (Electronic Arts)
NFL '98 (Sega)
NHL '98 (Electronic Arts)
Wimbledon Championship Tennis (Sega)

1998
Frogger (Majesco)

[qaotik]

I posted about it some months ago.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12867

[SoulBlazer]

I did'nt know the last Genesis game came out in 98. I always thought that system was dumped years before the SNES was, but I think the last SNES game came out in 98 (Sim City 2000).

[Ikari Warrior]

Thanks qaotik, that's the one I was looking for. I hope it get's finshed soon, it's a great site.
Thanks for the complete list as well, digitalpress, that's a great resource.

[Doonzmore]

Add NBA Hangtime to the list, i believe it was released in 1996.

[Iron Draggon]

Oh man, that site totally rocks, the Genesis is my all time favorite system! I knew about the Genesis collective, but I didn't know about the other one!

[-hellvin-]

Damn Joe...thank you very much, that has been copied to a word document.

Don't forget to check out sega-16 either....awesome site.

[Predatorxs]

FORS YARD Genesis site is a good read but it seems very biased (which it should i guess, being a Sega/Genesis site lol) But some of the info seems alittle week


its relatively sluggish CPU, and the inexplicably third-rate case redesign it had been given for the western market could be found in almost all of the major gaming magazines of the day.
I don't know about any of that, i liked the US snes design (as did millions of others!), over here in the UK, importers couldn't keep US snes console packages on the shelves, and after 3 months the price for a US snes was nearly �400. (and from what i heard about sales of the snes in the US they where selling like hotcakes too, Also the PAL snes was a huge success as well)

And the Sega Genesis (design) wasn't exactly a work of art! either @_@ both the sega controllers and the console itself always felt, weak and hollow to me!.. i was always scarred of braking them! lol


Over the course of the year, the "specs" for Nintendo's proposed CD drive escalated from being marginally superior to the Sega CD's, to an unbelievable 32-bit super system to be available in the summer of 1993. Suspiciously, these announcements tended to coincide with significant Sega CD press releases from Sega, which caused some to question Nintendo's motives.
I didn't think there was any questioning, were do ya think the playstation came from, i say this all the time but the Playstation was the bastard child of the snes! ;) Most of the PS1 engine was built around being compatable with the snes it was only copy right issues with Nintendo that caused Ninty and sony to split, i wonder what would have happened if the deal had gone ahead? (Wow, a mind bender really!.. Maybe no Playstation 2, no N64, No Gamcube, maybe even no xbox!)

A nice read (I like it when people take time to create sites like that), but i'm a die hard Nintendo fan, also when i had the Pal version of the snes it took some serious battering! and never gave up once the same as the US snes i had!, on the other hand 3 of my friends had to take back Megadrive/Genesis (atleast once) to get them fixed!!

I'm sure people had probs with the snes to, but it was always a more solid system, and the controllers are still the sh#t today!!

Sorry if i took things alittle off topic, but it's back on topic, now ahhhh shucks i love my snes! :roll: (Like you guys love da genesis!)

:vamp:..XS

[Iron Draggon]

I just finished reading everything on Fors Yard, but now I have to wonder are there any Genesis games that this guy has played? Almost every review that he has posted says that he's never played it, and most of the rest say that he never bought it. So I'm thinking that he must spend all of his time and money collecting nothing but print ads for Sega games. He does have a very impressive collection of those, but sheesh, I can't believe some of the gems he doesn't own and he's never played! He's missed almost all of them!

BTW, where is the Sega-16 site? I never heard of that one before either.

[Ed Oscuro]

FORS YARD Genesis site is a good read but it seems very biased (which it should i guess, being a Sega/Genesis site lol)
So Sega Genesis sites are biased, as a rule?



Over the course of the year, the "specs" for Nintendo's proposed CD drive escalated ... Suspiciously, these announcements tended to coincide with significant Sega CD press releases from Sega, which caused some to question Nintendo's motives.
I didn't think there was any questioning, were do ya think the playstation came from, i say this all the time but the Playstation was the bastard child of the snes! ;) Most of the PS1 engine was built around being compatable with the snes it was only copy right issues with Nintendo that caused Ninty and sony to split, i wonder what would have happened if the deal had gone ahead? (Wow, a mind bender really!.. Maybe no Playstation 2, no N64, No Gamcube, maybe even no xbox!)
What's the average gaming journalist and gamer to suspect when the thing never materializes? What's more, it's pretty obvious that Nintendo did time press releases about their then-upcoming PlayStation add-on to counter Sega CD-based enthusiasm.

As for the PlayStation being compatible with the SNES...well, Nintendo also based much of the SNES around compatibility with NES games!

[thegreatescape]

Theres also a great long article about the history of the genesis here (http://vgrebirth.org/articles/segabase/volume3.asp), originally written by the legendary Scribe.

Melfs site is http://www.sega-16.com

[Predatorxs]

FORS YARD Genesis site is a good read but it seems very biased (which it should i guess, being a Sega/Genesis site lol)
So Sega Genesis sites are biased, as a rule?

No just common sence, if it were a snes site it would be biased toward ninty consoles / games, there was no subtext in that remark i made. ;)



I didn't think there was any questioning, were do ya think the playstation came from, i say this all the time but the Playstation was the bastard child of the snes! ;) Most of the PS1 engine was built around being compatable with the snes it was only copy right issues with Nintendo that caused Ninty and sony to split, i wonder what would have happened if the deal had gone ahead? (Wow, a mind bender really!.. Maybe no Playstation 2, no N64, No Gamcube, maybe even no xbox!)

What's the average gaming journalist and gamer to suspect when the thing never materializes? What's more, it's pretty obvious that Nintendo did time press releases about their then-upcoming PlayStation add-on to counter Sega CD-based enthusiasm.

As for the PlayStation being compatible with the SNES...well, Nintendo also based much of the SNES around compatibility with NES games!

My point being that the guy making these comments is doing so, long after, years after infact!...

The thing is that ninty along with sony were developing a CD add on!.. So the whole idea that ninty were just mentioning a Snes CD add-ON for effect. Isn't really true. Just to muffle sega's CD-based enthusiasm?.

For example, at this point in time Nintendo have also started mentioning the Nintendo Revolution as the next console! the same way they mentioned the Snes CD- add on.. It's not just hot air, they wouldn't mention things and then not follow them through. ( thats for the UK and US governments to do LOL just had to throw that in LOL )

My point being they made those comments because at the time thats what they were developing! simple really!

In the end sega to me were always a Games company, and not a console company, where as Ninty have, and are still both (games and consoles) ;)


As for the PlayStation being compatible with the SNES...well, Nintendo also based much of the SNES around compatibility with NES games!

Yeah but at the time it was a big thing for a company as big as sony to join forces with Nintendo, i was getting at the point, about the Sony Playstation, its development in part, came from the Nintendo/Sony venture that didn't work out.. To be honest i don't know why you mentioned snes having compatibility with the snes.

Most consoles are based on the later console it is taking over, no biggy really SMS to Genesis, Nes to Snes, gameboy to gameboy color to GBA to GBA SP...

OH and Poo! to Game gear lol had to seek that in there!.. :embarrassed: Some might say the same about the ill fated Nintendo VB?

Also that Video game rebirth is a good read! ;)

:vamp:..XS

[Dire 51]

I didn't think there was any questioning, were do ya think the playstation came from, i say this all the time but the Playstation was the bastard child of the snes! ;) Most of the PS1 engine was built around being compatable with the snes it was only copy right issues with Nintendo that caused Ninty and sony to split, i wonder what would have happened if the deal had gone ahead? (Wow, a mind bender really!.. Maybe no Playstation 2, no N64, No Gamcube, maybe even no xbox!)

If I recall correctly, Nintendo had been working with Sony on the SNES CD, then Nintendo did an about-face and dropped Sony to work with Phillips (and of course we all know what the end result of THAT union was). Sony, being a bit miffed (which is an understatement and a half) decided to create their own CD-based system using the SNES engine, code named PSX. Or something like that. I recall this being brought up in a Quarterman column in the issue of EGM that had a SNES buyers guide (from early 1991, before the system was actually released in the U.S.), and it had a gold border on the cover... can't recall the number, though.

[qbertandernie]

sega genesis.

single handedly destroying the grammatical abilities of an entire generation.

nintendo aint done that, and dont got any plan to.

[Predatorxs]

I didn't think there was any questioning, were do ya think the playstation came from, i say this all the time but the Playstation was the bastard child of the snes! ;) Most of the PS1 engine was built around being compatable with the snes it was only copy right issues with Nintendo that caused Ninty and sony to split, i wonder what would have happened if the deal had gone ahead? (Wow, a mind bender really!.. Maybe no Playstation 2, no N64, No Gamcube, maybe even no xbox!)

If I recall correctly, Nintendo had been working with Sony on the SNES CD, then Nintendo did an about-face and dropped Sony to work with Phillips (and of course we all know what the end result of THAT union was). Sony, being a bit miffed (which is an understatement and a half) decided to create their own CD-based system using the SNES engine, code named PSX. Or something like that. I recall this being brought up in a Quarterman column in the issue of EGM that had a SNES buyers guide (from early 1991, before the system was actually released in the U.S.), and it had a gold border on the cover... can't recall the number, though.

Nintendo's decision to split from Sony only happened, because of the contract nintendo and Sony had both signed.

In the long run the deal Nintendo and Sony had, would have given Sony most of the money from the deal, most of this money being made off nintendo's copywritten characters and games.

Basically nintendo, would have become a silent partner, while sony took over, which didn't happen to sound to good nintendo! thus the spilt took place, sony sued nintendo for backing out, and the case was thrown out!

Sony wanted to walk in and grab the cash, who had more to lose?, Nintendo did! they had been in videogames nearly 15 years before the deal (Sony/Nintendo) now they were just gunna give it up!! No way!

Sony is a money chasing machine! Nintendo is a money making! Games Machine.. One one of the many reasons, i'm a Nintendo fan!

:vamp:..XS

[Melf]

Thanks for the kudos guys.

There aren't enough Genny sites. The system definitely deserves more love!

[Predatorxs]

Thanks for the kudos guys.

There aren't enough Genny sites. The system definitely deserves more love!

No.......no, no, no there's more than enough genny sites, no more.. please.. LOL

Really i'm just kiddin, i love reading (and lookin) through peoples Snes and genny sites, it takes me back 10 to 12 years ago, the buzz everybody had about new games, and trading games! with friends and buddies at school...Ahhh shhhhucks why do we have to grow old?? :(

:vamp:..XS

[Dire 51]

Nintendo's decision to split from Sony only happened, because of the contract nintendo and Sony had both signed.

In the long run the deal Nintendo and Sony had, would have given Sony most of the money from the deal, most of this money being made off nintendo's copywritten characters and games.

Basically nintendo, would have become a silent partner, while sony took over, which didn't happen to sound to good nintendo! thus the spilt took place, sony sued nintendo for backing out, and the case was thrown out!

Sony wanted to walk in and grab the cash, who had more to lose?, Nintendo did! they had been in videogames nearly 15 years before the deal (Sony/Nintendo) now they were just gunna give it up!! No way!

Sony is a money chasing machine! Nintendo is a money making! Games Machine.. One one of the many reasons, i'm a Nintendo fan!

:vamp:..XS

I don't recall ever hearing a word about this. Where'd you find this out?

[Predatorxs]

I found it out at the time it happened, i always thought it was common knowledge?? ;)

:vamp:..XS

[FORS YARD]

FORS YARD Genesis site is a good read but it seems very biased (which it should i guess, being a Sega/Genesis site lol) But some of the info seems alittle week


its relatively sluggish CPU, and the inexplicably third-rate case redesign it had been given for the western market could be found in almost all of the major gaming magazines of the day.
I don't know about any of that, i liked the US snes design (as did millions of others!), over here in the UK, importers couldn't keep US snes console packages on the shelves, and after 3 months the price for a US snes was nearly �400. (and from what i heard about sales of the snes in the US they where selling like hotcakes too, Also the PAL snes was a huge success as well)

And the Sega Genesis (design) wasn't exactly a work of art! either @_@ both the sega controllers and the console itself always felt, weak and hollow to me!.. i was always scarred of braking them! lol

Hi guys! I just signed up to respond to some of these comments, so my apologies if I've messed up the formatting of this post :)

Regarding FORS YARD being biased: Obviously, I'm a Sega fan and FORS YARD is a Genesis fan site, so I'm not going to go into the merits of the SNES in any great detail as that is best left to others. I suspect you are referring to the criticism of the SNES in the 1991 section of the site, but if you go back and look at EGM or GamePro issues from this time they really were quite critical of the system's North American redesign, slow CPU and initial software lineup.

Part of this disappointment was probably brought about by unrealistic expectations, as I said on the site: "There had been so much uncertainty and pent-up excitement amongst consumers about what Nintendo's successor to the NES would be like that by the time it was actually released the system couldn't possibly live up to all the hype." The SNES did quite well upon its North American release, but not as well as Nintendo had anticipated and, more importantly, it didn't wipe Sega off the face of the Earth as many thought it would.

The SNES had a much better year in 1992. EGM in particular changed their tune dramatically in 1992 and I believe my site reflects that.

History has not been especially kind to the Genesis system, IMHO, and one of the main reasons I created FORS YARD was to show that the Genesis was actually extremely well received upon its release and throughout much of its lifespan. It seems many game journalists nowadays refer to the Genesis as a system that was "badly designed" which I think fails to take historical context into account.

By the way, I absolutely think that the Genesis system was much, much cooler looking than the SNES. Sorry :)



Over the course of the year, the "specs" for Nintendo's proposed CD drive escalated from being marginally superior to the Sega CD's, to an unbelievable 32-bit super system to be available in the summer of 1993. Suspiciously, these announcements tended to coincide with significant Sega CD press releases from Sega, which caused some to question Nintendo's motives.
I didn't think there was any questioning, were do ya think the playstation came from, i say this all the time but the Playstation was the bastard child of the snes! ;) Most of the PS1 engine was built around being compatable with the snes it was only copy right issues with Nintendo that caused Ninty and sony to split, i wonder what would have happened if the deal had gone ahead? (Wow, a mind bender really!.. Maybe no Playstation 2, no N64, No Gamcube, maybe even no xbox!)

There was indeed questioning of Nintendo's motives regarding their CD-ROM announcements in 1992. Ed Semrad wrote an entire editorial on the subject where he outlined how several key Sega CD announcements were mysteriously shadowed by Nintendo CD-ROM press releases.

The supposed specs for the SNES-CD peripheral grew more and more powerful with each press release, but the anticipated price remained low. Nintendo didn't announce their partnership with Sony until the end of 1992, when they stated that they were planning to release a 32-bit CD-ROM peripheral for $200 in August of 1993. By comparison, the 3DO system barely squeaked out at the end of 1993 for $700, so you can understand how Nintendo's claims seemed a bit suspicious at the time.

I kind of doubt that the PS1 that Sony eventually released bore much resemblance to the system they were working on with Nintendo in 1992. Do you know for sure if that's the case?


A nice read (I like it when people take time to create sites like that), but i'm a die hard Nintendo fan, also when i had the Pal version of the snes it took some serious battering! and never gave up once the same as the US snes i had!, on the other hand 3 of my friends had to take back Megadrive/Genesis (atleast once) to get them fixed!!

I'm sure people had probs with the snes to, but it was always a more solid system, and the controllers are still the sh#t today!!

Well, I never had any problems with my 1989 Genesis or its controllers. From what I've read, most people prefer the Sega 6-button controller to the SNES model, but I suppose it's a matter of personal preference :)

[FORS YARD]

I just finished reading everything on Fors Yard, but now I have to wonder are there any Genesis games that this guy has played? Almost every review that he has posted says that he's never played it, and most of the rest say that he never bought it. So I'm thinking that he must spend all of his time and money collecting nothing but print ads for Sega games. He does have a very impressive collection of those, but sheesh, I can't believe some of the gems he doesn't own and he's never played! He's missed almost all of them!

The print ads on the web site are mostly from game magazines I bought back in the Genesis era (around 1990-1993, so far).

If I can think of something particularly noteworthy or interesting to say about a game I will include it in my comments, and I will usually note whether I have played the game or not for the sake of clarity. I own about 50 or 60 Genesis and Sega CD titles, but you're right, there's still quite a few I haven't played. I couldn't afford them all at the time and I'm not into collecting older titles at the moment. That being said, is there really all that much one can say about games like "PowerBall" and "Ultimate Qix" anyway? :)

By the way, what are some of the "gems" you think I've missed out on?

[FORS YARD]

My point being that the guy making these comments is doing so, long after, years after infact!...

The thing is that ninty along with sony were developing a CD add on!.. So the whole idea that ninty were just mentioning a Snes CD add-ON for effect. Isn't really true. Just to muffle sega's CD-based enthusiasm?.

I don't think anybody was saying that Nintendo was just pretending to be working on a SNES CD-ROM, but rather were questioning the timing of Nintendo's annoucements regarding the peripheral and its ever-increasing proposed specs.


For example, at this point in time Nintendo have also started mentioning the Nintendo Revolution as the next console! the same way they mentioned the Snes CD- add on.. It's not just hot air, they wouldn't mention things and then not follow them through. ( thats for the UK and US governments to do LOL just had to throw that in LOL )

True, but they didn't for example state that the Revolution would be released in August 2005 for $150 with a list of specs on the eve of the X-Box launch :) (Perhaps they're saving that for the launch of the PSP!)


My point being they made those comments because at the time thats what they were developing! simple really!

Well, the system was never released so I guess we'll never know for sure.


In the end sega to me were always a Games company, and not a console company, where as Ninty have, and are still both (games and consoles) ;)

What makes you say that, out of curiosity? It was only recently that Sega got out of the hardware business, after all.

[Push Upstairs]

The SNES had a much better year in 1992. EGM in particular changed their tune dramatically in 1992 and I believe my site reflects that.

Ahh yes...1992. The year EGM pretty much plastered "Street Fighter 2" on every cover.

I now consider this year to be the year EGM went to crap. I don't say this because of thier about-face on thier liking the Genesis...but because any game they could compare to "Street Fighter 2" they did.

I wasn't a fool in 1992 and i'm not now, i didnt need EGM to explain to me that the 2-player vs. mode in "Streets of Rage 2" isnt like SF2.

And someone who is also re-discovering the old EGM explained that EGM's review for "World Heroes" was nothing but the review crew explaining how WH wasnt SF2.

I'm suprised they just didnt compare every single game ever made to SF2.


"Hey Ed, What do you think of that 'Super Mario 3'?"

"Well Steve, I think the combo system is terrible compared to that in 'Street Fighter 2'. The moves are nothing like those of Chun-Li and even E. Honda and his '100 Hand Slap' could take out Bowser"

[Iron Draggon]

The print ads on the web site are mostly from game magazines I bought back in the Genesis era (around 1990-1993, so far).

If I can think of something particularly noteworthy or interesting to say about a game I will include it in my comments, and I will usually note whether I have played the game or not for the sake of clarity. I own about 50 or 60 Genesis and Sega CD titles, but you're right, there's still quite a few I haven't played. I couldn't afford them all at the time and I'm not into collecting older titles at the moment. That being said, is there really all that much one can say about games like "PowerBall" and "Ultimate Qix" anyway? :)

By the way, what are some of the "gems" you think I've missed out on?

Hey, glad to see you here! I hope I didn't sound too rude before, I actually thoroughly enjoyed your site, and I'm anxiously awaiting it's "completion". I know you must've done a ton of research for it already, and all of those print ads must take forever to scan in and upload, but they really are a nice touch.

Anyway, I started collecting Genesis games in '92, about the same time the Sega CD came out. So I was a pretty late adopter, but I made up for it with a rabid appetite for as many games as I could get for it. I got my Sega CD in '93, after only 3 months of owning my Genesis, and I started collecting as many games as I could get for it too. So I was very glad that there was a big pause in new releases during most of '92, as this gave me time to catch up.

To make a long story short, I now have almost every Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast, & Game Gear game ever released in the US, along with almost every SNES game never released on Genesis, for good measure, and ditto for 3DO, Playstation, Jaguar, Jaguar CD, & Virtual Boy. Well OK, actually I still don't have a ton of games for all those systems, but you get the idea.

I've had most of these games since the day they came out, and the few exceptions were mostly ones that came out before I started collecting. I spent almost all the money I earned on games and systems for 10 years. I hope I don't sound like I'm bragging, just letting you know my background.

Anyhow, I'd have to go back through your site again and note all the gems that you're clearly missing out on, but it would help to know what sort of games you're into. A gem means nothing to someone not into the genre, so some of the games that I consider classics may still be meaningless to you.

But one game that stands out in my mind is Insector X. I've always thought of it as one of the biggest hidden gems on the system. Most people have never even heard of it before, but everyone that I know who's played it has loved it. So I can't imagine what kind of bad things you could've heard about it, but if you're just over all shooters in general, then it won't be impressive.

Most critics at the time felt the same way about it though, so it's kind of a cult classic. Probably one of the hardest games to find for the system, as it was very difficult to find it even when it was new, but luckily I found a copy. And my only major complaint with it is the lack of a two player option. Most early Genesis shooters had that problem, and it's sad that it's probably only because of the 4 meg carts that aren't quite big enough for some games.

So that's just one example, but I remember being in shock at some of the games you've never played, so I'll make a list for you later. And I am playing the violins for you over Granada also. It is a very impressive game, especially the second level, where you fight the forces of the giant flying battleship. But I always wished that it had come out after the 6 button controllers were introduced, because it would've benefited greatly from the extra buttons.

[Dire 51]

But one game that stands out in my mind is Insector X. I've always thought of it as one of the biggest hidden gems on the system. Most people have never even heard of it before, but everyone that I know who's played it has loved it. So I can't imagine what kind of bad things you could've heard about it, but if you're just over all shooters in general, then it won't be impressive.

Most critics at the time felt the same way about it though, so it's kind of a cult classic. Probably one of the hardest games to find for the system, as it was very difficult to find it even when it was new, but luckily I found a copy. And my only major complaint with it is the lack of a two player option. Most early Genesis shooters had that problem, and it's sad that it's probably only because of the 4 meg carts that aren't quite big enough for some games.

I have to second Insector X. I remember renting it right after it came out, and ever since then I've absolutely loved it. Eventually I'm going to have to track down the Famicom version and see how it is.

[Daniel Thomas]

There are a lot of hidden gems in the Genesis library. Between the shooter rush and Sonic and EA's sports games, a lot of terrific titles were overlooked. Shooters, strategy sims, amiga conversions, a little bit of everything; Insector X is a good example of that.

[ArnoldRimmer83]

I have to second Insector X. I remember renting it right after it came out, and ever since then I've absolutely loved it. Eventually I'm going to have to track down the Famicom version and see how it is.

The Famicom version is pretty wierd. It has a more cartoonish look, sort of like FC Splatterhouse. One amusing thing about the game is its option to let you play as a boy character or a girl character. The game is pretty sexist, as the girl character has far more powerful weaponery than the boy. The developers seemed to assume that girl players couldn't play as well as boys.

[Dire 51]

I'm definitely going to have to track it down now. I have to see it.

[Iron Draggon]

There's a Famicom version? Are you sure you don't mean Super Famicom?

OK, now I'm getting all misty-eyed here! If there was a version with two well balanced characters that supported 2 player simultaneous play, then I might be able to finally beat the game! I haven't played it in years, but as I recall, it's a pretty tough little shooter. I guess I'm gonna have to dig it out again.

Thank God I found it when it was new. I'd hate to be on a quest for it now.

[rbudrick]

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/CW_Arnhem/

There you go.

Oh Wait. You meant the gam system.... :D

BTW, yes there is indeed a Famicom Insector X, not SFC.

-Rob

[FORS YARD]

Hey, glad to see you here! I hope I didn't sound too rude before, I actually thoroughly enjoyed your site, and I'm anxiously awaiting it's "completion". I know you must've done a ton of research for it already, and all of those print ads must take forever to scan in and upload, but they really are a nice touch.

No problem. I guess I just tend to consider the scans and contemporary reviews to be the site's "main event", as it were, while my comments are generally just there for whatever entertainment value they can provide :) I tend to go on at length about games I feel strongly about, though, like "Phantasy Star III"...


Anyway, I started collecting Genesis games in '92, about the same time the Sega CD came out. So I was a pretty late adopter, but I made up for it with a rabid appetite for as many games as I could get for it. I got my Sega CD in '93, after only 3 months of owning my Genesis, and I started collecting as many games as I could get for it too. So I was very glad that there was a big pause in new releases during most of '92, as this gave me time to catch up.

I had a Genesis from Christmas 1989 and on, so I got to play a lot of the early titles as they were released. In that respect, I feel I can bring a certain "what it was like to play it at the time" context to early Genesis games on the site. I guess a lot of my Genesis library consists of games from the first few years of the system's lifespan, since things got muddled later on as I got the Master System, Sega CD, Lynx, Jaguar, Jaguar CD (ugh!), etc.


Anyhow, I'd have to go back through your site again and note all the gems that you're clearly missing out on, but it would help to know what sort of games you're into. A gem means nothing to someone not into the genre, so some of the games that I consider classics may still be meaningless to you.

I think I have pretty varied tastes. I like RPGs, shooters (good ones, anyway...), racing games. I'm kind of out of my element on this site here, though, as I don't really collect old games. I mean, Virtua Racing on Genesis seemed amazing at the time, but I'm not sure I'd feel the same way about it if I were playing it for the first time today.

By the way, did you ever get the Insector-X CD soundtrack Sage's Creation was offering at the time? I bet that'd be worth something :)

[Iron Draggon]

OMG, no! I wish I had gotten it. I never sent off for anything offered as a mail-in promotion, like an idiot. Well that's not entirely true, I did send off for the 32X version of Surgical Strike that was offered with the Sega CD version, but damn Sega wrote back and said they weren't gonna produce it after all. I guess it was just too much trouble to go to for me and the 5 other 32X CD owners who sent in for it. But they did offer me a free Sega CD game of my choice as a consolation. If I remember correctly, that's how I got Wirehead.

[Push Upstairs]

SlightlyDark.com had the "insector X" soundtrack available for download about a month ago.

http://www.slightlydark.com/gamemusic/index.php

Nope, they took it down. :(